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What now? (self.freedomearth)

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So you guys may have had experiences yesterday, but other than my little energy evert (that wasn't out of the ordinary) NOTHING HAPPENED. Everything still sucks. And I don't really understand. My entire life, everything has pointed to yesterday, but then nothing happens? Nothing at all. No revolution, no disclosure, no revelations, not even anything personal. And you know what, I don't know what reality is anymore. Because all this aliens shit clearly isn't real. If it was, in my opinion, we would all have something tangible as proof that all this shit was real. You know, like every channeled message said when they referred to the 21st. So what now? I've always used this as fuel to try and be happy. I was thinking of killing myself, but I'm only 24 so I don't know. I was also thinking of just biting the bullet and taking happy pills so I can be comfortably numb like everyone else. I guess what I want to know is what is real.

Addition: Thank you to everyone who responded to this. It's given me a lot to think about and I greatly appreciate everything you guys have helped me with here and in the past. This definitely is my favorite place to visit in the entire interwebs.

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[–]sumerian_mother 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I completely get your frustration. I was just keeping it open for anything to happen. The early morning of the 20th was pretty busy for me while I was dreaming and I woke up exhausted but with a pretty good whit about me. I felt energized and clear, but I did want more. I'm at a point where I need more. I've been plagued with tons of karma dues and yesterday hit a pinnacle. All I can do now is still wait, my suicide days have long past. I can't lie, I was hoping for an alien someone to at least do a fly over to where there were no more question marks for the one's that are on the fence and the one's that don't believe at all. I'm not going to blow spiritual smoke up ur ass at this point either. I still believe, but the lack of fabulousness does present a suck factor. Maybe I'm not to that point yet, I just don't know and won't till I draw my last breath. Maybe this year will rush in tons of changes world wide and boost us up to the 5th without a doubt. I'm sorry you are feeling this way, but I get it too.

[–]xplosiw 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think there are going to be many changes coming up this year. Personal changes of course, but really. Nine days. Not a realistic chance at the moment.

[–]dq9[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for understanding.

[–]dq9[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

After some thought I think what I need is some physical proof that all this shit is real before I continue. I think my problem is that I've spent pretty much all of my adult life preparing for something that from my perspective, didn't happen. And I know aliens aren't gonna come down to shake my hand or whatever, but come on universe, throw me a bone here. I'm just some whiney kid trying to figure this all out and it would be nice to have something to know it's all real and not just some delusion I came up with one time on acid or whatever. Am I wrong for wanting that?

[–]Plow_King 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

don't wait for the universe to do it, make your own future.

[–]sumerian_mother 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

You are soooo not wrong, not in my opinion anyway. That's what I've been contemplating as well. Unfortunately, DMT isn't just available at the local WalMart..... I have a tremendous lack of patience sometimes. Last year I got immediate results with just one attempt at deep mediation. However, my current situation and demeanor makes it EXTREMELY hard to find a physical quiet place just to find a spiritual one. Not to mention my immediate results kinda spooked me at first, so sometimes I feel like I've blocked myself even though I now completely accept this at the real "reality". So I've been wanting to try psychedelics to by pass all the relaxation and such. Maybe that's cheating, but I don't think so. Terance McKenna had radical results with DMT. Crazy mental breakthroughs that lead him to zero point for the 21st. So many cultures touched on the 21st being an important turning point for us, so I definitely know within my heart that it will be or is. However, I also read some of the channelings that really hit home for me, so again, I completely understand your disappointment. I've had an astral experience with a "gray", so I know they exist at some dimensional level, but I also want progression in the here and now. I was struggling with all this and then I was actually capable of seeing an energy pattern the other day with no way to explain it away. That sealed the deal for me and I figured I would just get aboard with an open mind and hope for the best. I'm a seer and it sounds like you are one also. Just try to stay positive and I believe you will get some glimpses at what you want to see. It just sucks that they aren't on a continual basis, I know.

[–]dq9[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've actually never had an out of body experience. I would really like one to happen, but they just don't happen for me. I've never lucid drempt or anything. I actually don't remember my dreams, probably because I smoke pot before bed every night. I'm an insomniac and I've found that pot helps me get to sleep right away, so I'm not changing that anytime soon. As any insomniac will tell you, sleep is a gift and when you find a way to ensure you're going to have it, you make sure you get it. I'm trying this whole dream journal thing, but the problem is that I never remember anything from my dreams. I get you on the recent meditation thing too. Recently I haven't been able to find any space in between thoughts, which kind of lead me to believe that yesterday would be a point when I finally could, but it's kinda worse now than ever. Every time I tell my brain to stfu, more thoughts come pouring into my head and it's way too overwhelming. As for DMT, I've never tried it. Something has always held me back from it, but I have done acid A LOT and shrooms a couple of times. Almost all of my spiritual experiences have been with drugs. They don't seem to happen otherwise so any insight to that would be greatly appreciated.

[–]sumerian_mother 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look, when I had my contact I wasn't expecting it nor looking for it. In fact it scared the shit out of me to where I had to sleep on the couch for about a week until I slowly worked my way back to my bedroom. I'm 37 years old, and cowering like a child. Although, going through that deep phase of fear has taught me a tremendous amount in spirituality and I'm no longer scared of them. I'm obviously not perfect at this, but that's what we're supposed to work on to find the Source in ourselves. I've seen enough to know it's out there, so please don't give up. Sorry, but it's been nice to see that I'm not the only challenged one here. We can keep in contact and walk each other through it if you would like? I'm not an avid drug user, but I'm hell bent to experience whatever I can. Feel free to msg anytime, if you want to. Thanks again for the convo.

[–]spacemannath 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

smoking pot stops us from remembering our dreams. Its been said that we enter higher dimensions through dreaming. when im smoke free for a few days my dreams are intense and real. Id recommend giving up pot for a week if you want to be able to update your dream journal. I know not being able to sleep is a problem especially if you have to be up and out for a certain time to honour your commitments. Ive found that laying in bed relaxing is the next best thing to sleep. laying in bed and relaxing is a lot different than laying in bed fidgeting. It takes great effort to be able to lay down and think of nothing. In the past ive spent hours each night not being able to find sleep but as long as i lay with hardly any movement I did manage to get decent rest. Once you are able to quit your chattering mind then perhaps you may be able to notice other subtle things - or perhaps you may not! Dont get on my case though if after a week of not getting enough sleep and u dont notice anything different! this is my opinion and may not be relevant to you - you could say thats my disclaimer into giving u the wrong advice :)

[–]dq9[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah I wouldn't get on your case. Just like me you, all of us really, are just a bunch of dumb "kids" trying to figure all this wacky shit on our own. And I'm going to have to detox for a few days, out of buds, so we'll see.

[–]S-Katon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I watched as the Christ Child was conceived and born in my heart. His father is the Mushroom and the Source is His mother. I certainly have no objection to the mindful, skillful use of psychedelics to achieve transcendental states. For people with a heavily calcified pineal gland, it might be your only option, short of making great effort to decalcify it.

Gnosis is what Gnosis is, it matters not where you find it. As they say at my alma mater, the Nike School of Spirituality: "JUST DO IT" :)

[–]sumerian_mother 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I definitely have some blockage somewhere, and I realize hole heartedly that its up to me to clear it. I hate that I lack patience and I have absolutely no doubt that this is yet another lesson I have come back to learn. It's going to take some time, I know. Hell, most people have been doing this for the better part of a decade, so just with the progress I've made in one year, I shouldn't complain. I'm not giving up, I just will have to fight for what I seek. When I first realized we reincarnate, my way of explaining it to other people was that you don't graduate kindergarten with a Masters. The same applies here I think as well.

[–]Iwantasquirrel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it's a perfectly reasonable request. Just ask for a sign, something that will be obvious to you & you will receive it.

[–]spacemannath -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

what is "all this shit" that you want proof of? are you trying to define or understand the "little energy evert" that you talked about at the start of this page? are you wanting proof of your/our reality ? are the answers not before your very eyes? if seeing is believeing do you see the same things with your eyes opened as well as closed?

[–]Iwantasquirrel 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's a quote I read recently that really resonated with me (it actually made me cry): the 7 Sisters of the Pleiades addressing the starseeds, tell us that "many of you have had to dim your light to fit into a world that was once unfit for such magnificence."

But luckily for us, things are changing for the better & it's time to finally remember & reclaim our light. :-) I know that this process can be difficult and exhausting at times, but please just hold on. You are not alone.

Also, regarding 12/21 -- the date doesn't matter, because the whole shift is more about being a gradual process instead of being about reaching a culmination point. What's great is that the collective has reached critical mass, so the window of opportunity isn't closed. In fact, it's wide open & things will continue to intensify. It's easier to manifest things now, so it's really important to pay close attention to where your thoughts are -- so please be kind to yourself.

[–]dq9[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the quote!

[–]xoxoyoyo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The concept of 2012 is not really about any particular date (although in some ways it is) - it is more about the decade before and the decade to follow. The past decade has already seen tremendous changes with internet becoming widely available in many parts of the world. There will be much more to come.

In the past 600 years the world has matured a lot in the context of skepticism. That was a means of allowing the individuals to break free of the bonds of slavery imposed by those with greater knowledge. In the next phase individuals will become more able to access spiritual truths from within instead of needing authority figures to provide this information.

Anyway, I suggest you stay the course. The point is not that things "have changed" but that they now "can change". Turn the world into the place you want it to be.

[–]brandnewset 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah bro!

[–]ThatOtherCoolGuy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I kinda fell into the same thought process as you did, but I was talking to my dad today and I kind of came to a realization. I was putting my faith into an outside source, the date of the 21st, to bring positive change into my life. This seemed like the correct course of action, but looking back, I realize that the only way to bring positive change is to be the positive change that I wanted that date to bring. You can't look to an outside source to change your life, as your reality is a mirror of yourself. Instead of hoping this date would signify the change I wanted to see, which would be looking for an outside source to change my reality, I needed to instead be that change. I thought I had everything figured out, but it turns out I still have some lessons to learn in this life. It seems like we all do, really.

[–]dq9[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I actually had that revelation a couple of weeks ago, when it happened it was a very profound moment. I spent most of today reminding myself of that. The problem with that is I don't talk to a very many people ever. I have a lot of social anxiety and I'm very awkward all the time. Sometimes the anxious feelings become so overwhelming that I can't focus on what I'm doing. So being myself, or the change I want, is quite difficult. Maybe you have some insight?

[–]ThatOtherCoolGuy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is only advice from a stranger online, so dont take this as end all be all for anxiety advice, but I'd ask yourself what you're really afraid of in these situations. Keep tracing these fears back and really asking yourself what you're afraid of. It usually can be traced back to some kind of limitation or label that you've given to yourself. In fact, most fears are fears that you have given yourself. If it's not, then you're mislabeling the fear, or the fear is actually something life threatening (which you should be afraid of). No one else can impose a fear or label on yourself but you. That is the absolute truth. No one knows you better than yourself, and no one will ever have a better image of yourself than you. In the case of social anxiety, the person usually goes into a situation already fearing that they're going to be awkward or anxious, and then this fear becomes a reality. Its a repeating cycle. Now of all times, and with you posting on this board you should be well aware, that whatever you think and whatever you believe comes true for your reality. If you think you're going to be anxious, you most likely will be. But if you can look within and find the fear that is causing this anxiety, you can take it and be rid of it, because you definitely have not given yourself such a label or attributed such an idea to yourself. From how you post and how you talk here, I would have never guessed that you had social anxiety. You know why? Its because you have no labels on the internet. You are the person you want to be. And theres no reason you can't be the same person in real life.

[–]dq9[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol you just said the same thing that everyone always says to me. However this was so well worded that I had to say something! So thank you for the kind words. I do keep forgetting that now things are manifested earlier so thanks for the reminder!

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    [–]dq9[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah I went through that whole god isn't real thing too. It seems like once a year I have to reevaluate what is real and what isn't, which is annoying, but whatever.

    [–]Mr_Fractal 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Use what you learned and go forth in love! :D

    [–]xplosiw 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Of course "nothing" happened. (Obviously something must've happened but I understand what you mean).

    It's not like we're going to suddenly boom appear somewhere and all that jazz. Well, it's possible, but this train we're on is a gradual one and it has already left the station several years ago so to speak. You have already ascended in this accelerated way for many years. You are always going to ascend, that's the name of the game.

    Bashar says that 21st is a threshold after which our collective has turned slightly more positive than negative (as it has been for many thousands of years). He also points out that the date is "the end of quarantine", meaning the strict hands-off policy "UFOs"/"aliens" have had towards us. From this point on the ball is in our hands and our hands only, we decide when we are ready, individually and collectively, for a UFO contact.

    He also points out that many of us have already had a contact, we just don't remember it right now. So keep doing what you love to do (your highest excitement. f. ex. I love music, thus that's what I do and I absolutely love it, it's part of my highest excitement in life) and you will remember more about the contact you've already had. This, and many other things, also function as a meter as to how far you've come in terms of contact. When you finally do remember it, it's a sign for "the others" to approach you again.

    He has predicted several times that around 2025-2032 there is a high possibility of an actual, physical open contact between our worlds and another one. But remember, there is no such thing as prediction of the future, it's only reading the energy as it is in this moment. Therefore the future can change in any direction.

    Find out what is important to you, do what you love to do without any expection of what the outcome ought to be and trust the way your life unfolds to you. That's all that matters, everything will fall into place that way and you won't have to worry yourself to death about the details.

    [–]dq9[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    "It's not like we're going to suddenly boom appear somewhere and all that jazz." Then why would George Stankov make it seem like it's all going to happen instantaneous? Then again, I do kinds seem him as an egotistical asshole, but I really bought into that whole PAT story. I was pretty convinced that I was part of the PAT. Everything in my life pointed to that and I mean EVERYTHING.

    "From my point of view, yesterday really revealed and surfaced some critical parts about your definitions on your life that you now have the ability to work on. Thus you in fact ascended quite alot." I'm sorry, can you please rephrase that or something. I understand all the words, but I don't understand what you're talking about there.

    [–]xplosiw 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    About the sudden shift. Bashar stated about a week ago that many of these channelings have been misunderstood. Things happen a lot faster in higher realms and thus the idea of instant ascension, while it is true for the beings living in the higher realms from which the infromation is coming from, it's not relevant for us, because physical reality takes time.

    It's all about the process, journey is the destination. He pointed out that one skill we are just starting to learn is to discern when the information is about physical reality and when it's not. From this opint of view, George may have cheated you or he honestly thought the information is correct and never realized it may not be that relevant to our reality. When you're accessing higher information, it may seem from that perspective that everything is sudden whereas here on Earth it really takes quite a while!

    And what I meant with the other part was simply put: now that you have those (negative) feelings, see where they come from and deal with the issues. Clear out the "bad stuff" so you can live the life you wish to live :)

    [–]CrimsonNova 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Unfortunately, this is not a valid excuse. We were not lead to believe, regardless of what Bashar said, that our Ascension would be a 'gradual' process. I have read literally THOUSANDS of these damn channels, hoping to find that one glimmer of truth in this world. Thia glimmer of truth was supposed to be mass Ascension on the 21st, and regardless of what you may rationalize, this dream was not realized on this day.

    I am afraid regardless of what sort of 'faith' I am supposed to have for tangible evidence of change in this world, it is not enough to keep one from pondering what they have been doing these past several years. Ascension is not a gradual process, and we have missed the deadline for our appointments with God.

    I sit here with my briefcase full, and my speech memorized. I am absolutely prepared for my dream to Ascend. I have left nothing out, and I am left here with everything, and nothing. This is unacceptable, and while my faith dwindles exponentially in the days leading up to this new year, I shall retain a faint, desperate hope alive in the deepest depths of my heart. I have manned the ship of this journey for TOO LONG, to give up hope so quickly. And yet, I am exhausted from this fight, and my hope cannot last forever.

    I only say this because at the end of the day, logic cannot be forgotten. At least, not by a sane man. And in order to keep this sanity, one must find new venues to spend his time and effort. I am wasting my valuable time here as I see it. I have but the faintest hope that I am wrong.

    [–]xplosiw 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well. It's always this AND that, meaning the ascension can be gradual or instant. However, here we are so it seems that we're going for the gradual. But really, I'm having too much fun to give a damn. The paradox is that when you validate the current circumstances, less you have the need to keep experiencing it if it's not what you prefer. What I mean is that you came across almost as angry that you're somehow still here. Now I don't know if that's true or not but I understand you perfectly! I'd love to ascend or whatever, but I love it here as well :) I've so many exciting things going on!

    What, are you saying you're wasting your time here? Are you serious? Are we not infite and eternal beings who will live and keep experiencing forever and forever? How is it then even possible to be 'wasting time' if you have an infinite amount of it available! Now, you're obviously still here and for a reason. Everything in your life went absolutely the way it was planned! You have just arrived at a huge crossroad in your life because things didn't go the way you thought they would. Good! Now you have the power to decide what you prefer to do next :) How exciting !

    [–]dq9[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You'd think those guys being channeled would clear things up when we misunderstood it. It would also be nice of those being channeled would speak more clearly or not in metaphor all the time. It seems like nothing they ever said was direct in any way. Which is very frustrating. This entire process is very frustrating.

    And I have been clearing out "bad stuff" since the summer. There seems to be an infinite supply.

    [–]xplosiw 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I wonder what's going to be their next update btw.

    And yeah, the indirectness and metaphoric speaking, I hate it. It's indeed absolutely useless. I grew tired of it so I stopped reading channelings.

    But anyhow, there's not much I can add anymore. Keep it awesome and you're good to go!

    [–]dq9[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well thanks for what you've added so far! And I am also wondering what they're gonna be saying now. I don't read them as much as I used to as well. They all kinda say the same thing over and over.

    [–]xplosiw 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also, don't get discouraged or insulted or anything, but the way you phrased your message reveals that you might not have been ready for "the harvest" anyway. Don't "try" to be happy, just be happy. You have to be the change you want to see in your world FIRST.

    From my point of view, yesterday really revealed and surfaced some critical parts about your definitions on your life that you now have the ability to work on. Thus you in fact ascended quite alot.

    [–][deleted] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Actually I have seen the craft fly overhead many times. They are very real.
    I'm still not sure what they want/what they're doing/why they're not helping though, despite what channels/experts say.

    [–]dq9[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'm jelly. I would love to see some craft.

    [–][deleted] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just go meditate.

    [–]merco_caliente 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You might have read this in the other tread, but for me it sounds legit :

    The 21st was about universal alignment. It is an important step in an evolution of humanity, if there is a moment of ascension it could still happen in the next three years. The Mayans called this period the end of time; mother earth will decide when the precise moment is within the period. In any case the world will change and we will enter a golden age. Nobody knows what exactly will happen, we should just be happy, try to live in our hearts and wait and see.

    I'm also curious why the so-called Harvest didn't happen, but according to my interpretation of the Ra Channelings nobody said it was going to happen on the 21st.

    I'm still only at book 3 of 5, mind you

    tldr: who knows, it's up to Mother Earth to decide when the migration to the 4th density has reached a point where us 3rd density guys have to be kicked out.

    I hope it helps; for what it's worth : i'm not particularly in a rush to ascend because "the time and place to be" is now... Learn what you can and enjoy the ride :)

    [–]spacemannath 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    http://pastebin.com/6EtUMhsL glowing orbs . many people have seen these around the world. What are they ? I dont know. Dont give up hope just because "nothing" has happened that you can see via reddit or whatever. I do understand your frustration though. Salusa is channelled through Mike Quinsey who gives 3 messages a week Monday , Wednesday and Friday. Except this Friday - the 21st !?? no more messages till the 28th... Youve got to take control of you own feelings and happiness. It would have been nice to have woken up Saturday morning in Utopia the whole world in peace but at least we've woken up. Dont know about where you are but where I am the skies have been covered by clouds for the last week so who knows what could be going on up there! However to me - it doesnt matter, concentrate on yourself and your immediate surroundings until your strong enough to worry about anything else... you dont need happy pills to make you happy. You make yourself happy (im sure you can!) Ive read a lot of things that I would like to have been true. If people have made some things up then shame on them . It doesnt stop me from wanting the world to be a better place . Just got to keep on plodding 1 day at a time,hey even 1 minute at a time when things are tough but still got to keep on going :)

    [–]capnbozzy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The information I have received from my spiritual contacts is that the battle of the 21st was won in favor of the Light, and that the next yuga was successfully initiated. In other words, the energetic scale has been tipped toward the Light, however, this does not mean the war is over.

    I understand many people experienced nothing happening on the 21st, but that has to do with your own actions on that day according to your personal level of development. If you expected the work to be done for you, then you were not operating in an effective mindset to evoke a spiritual experience. You get what you put in - the external world is a mirror of your internal thoughts and decisions.

    [–]CrimsonNova 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I will copy and past my last post, as this would be somewhat relevant for you too:

    We were not lead to believe that our Ascension would be a 'gradual' process. I have read literally THOUSANDS of channels, hoping to find that one glimmer of truth in this world. This glimmer of truth was supposed to be mass Ascension on the 21st, and regardless of what you may rationalize, this dream was not realized on this day.

    I am afraid regardless of what sort of 'faith' I am supposed to have for tangible evidence of change in this world, it is not enough to keep one from pondering what they have been doing these past several years. Ascension is not supposed to be a gradual process, and we have missed the deadline for our appointments with God.

    I sit here with my briefcase full, and my speech memorized. I am absolutely prepared for my dream to Ascend. I have left nothing out, and I am left here with everything, and nothing. This is unacceptable, and while my faith dwindles exponentially in the days leading up to this new year, I shall retain a faint, desperate hope alive in the deepest depths of my heart. I have manned the ship of this journey for TOO LONG, to give up hope so quickly. And yet, I am exhausted from this fight, and my hope cannot last forever.

    I only say this because at the end of the day, logic cannot be forgotten. At least, not by a sane man. And in order to keep this sanity, one must find new venues to spend his time and effort. I am wasting my valuable time here as I see it. I have but the faintest hope that I am wrong.

    [–]capnbozzy -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The detonation of the PAT supernova has already been initiated in the higher realms, it simply has not been experienced in 3D yet due to the time-lag, as Georgi mentioned in his latest announcement. It will probably happen by Christmas, just be patient.

    Certain aspects of this process are gradual, others are instantaneous. We all have different roles to play, and everyone will have a different experience according to their soul contracts.

    [–]actioncompassion 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you, deep down, think things suck...then you will continue to perpetuate that in your reality

    [–][deleted] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Please see a therapist.