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[–]AbortionBurger 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (28子コメント)

Between the PG sub on Voat being overrun with Antisemitism shills and T-D being overrun with censoring anything questioning Israel.... It kinda feels like they're trying to pin us against each other.

[–]KingJames19 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (10子コメント)

That's the entire purpose of the news. To pit us against each other. Here is a thought exercise: if you watch sports, when a fan runs into the field of play the cameras will not show the fan and the announcers will not mention the fan. The reason being they don't want copycats. So why when I turn on the news all I see is hate? Why is the news so hell bent on showing and promoting division? They want copycats

[–]captainpixystick 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The media suppresses people who are against suppressing people by angering them. Angering them and suggesting their enemy while lying to them with all the false emotionally charged news narratives. There are people talking to their daughters about rape because Trump was elected and shit like that. They're crazy, it's bizarre. It's all because of these false emotionally charged news cycles. ALWAYS pay attention to their coverage. I now see their narratives and can correctly play their narratives like a chess game. You must always be steps ahead of them and their narratives.

Fox News is controlled opposition and is under their control as well. If you can make everyone emotional, they're prone to behave irrationally and not thinking logically.

It's very difficult to think independently these days. Even worse, it's harder to debate people these days because these emotionally charged narratives have made people make up their minds without second guessing them, facts be damned. One example is how meritocracy is seen as oppression now. Independent news is called "fake" news by these false narrative spreading news agencies.

The news needs to lose all legitimacy in the American public's eyes before we can fix this. Or else we're on a path to civil war all because the globalist's fake ass news.

Edit: And here's today's fake ass news about Russia "hacking our election". Notice how vague Obama and the news make this narrative. They're intentionally painting with a broad and ambiguous brush in hopes to stir shit up and delegitimize Trump's election. Here's Obama's proof which is so vague it's laughable. Obama, a Constitutional scholar, believes this is solid proof. In the report they don't make it clear if this alleged attack was referring to the DNC leak or some other incident. Nothing specific at all. BUT, they're not interested in specifics because it's more FAKE ASS NEWS. This fake news allows people to run with it and say "look at this definite proof that russia hacked the votes for the election."

[–]fat_osvaldo [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Fox News is controlled opposition and is under their control as well. If you can make everyone emotional, they're prone to behave irrationally and not thinking logically.

It's not necessarily "Controlled Opposition" imo, Murdoch has the same interests overall as the other corporate media tycoons he just has his own agenda and goes after his own self-interest to an extent.

[–]captainpixystick [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I consider FOX compromised when their ratings are consistently beating their liberal competition, they're actually at all time highs. Yet FOX never faces any conservative news competition on network TV. It's FOX or bust.

Usually with demand comes supply to meet the demand, unless the supply chain is being controlled...

[–]fat_osvaldo [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Usually with demand comes supply to meet the demand, unless the supply chain is being controlled...

There ARE other networks (not to mention how most other media is center-right anyway), but I think you shouldn't underestimate how HUGE 21st Century Fox is. They could easily swallow up competition and people might say "I don't want to mess with Murdoch".

[–]captainpixystick [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Fair point. There's an untapped market that Fox seems to have 100% market share on. It seems strange to me, but liberals shouldn't be surprised when conservatives seek other alternatives to Fox because conservatives don't have many other "establishment" news alternatives outside of Fox. There's such a great demand for alternatives that it has spilled over heavily on the internet. I think most politically minded people 40 and older generally know what they're getting into when they turn on Fox News or CNN/MSNBC. Most people younger than 40 seem to be heading to the internet to get their news while disconnecting cable television altogether. This "fake news" shit seems to be the legacy news crying as they lose market share.

[–]fat_osvaldo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agree with you fully. I did some research on the demographics of some MSM networks and there's also frequently audience numbers posted by them to either brag about how their viewership is increasing or whatever. And in both MSNBC and Fox's case, the average viewer was over 60 and white. So it appears they absolutely are going to continue losing viewers. I know I personally don't even own cable connections, I watch the streams that various channels offer.

If someone actually knows how to interpret ratings numbers, PLEASE shed some light on these numbers about Fox News "the most watched cable news network".

[–]AbortionBurger 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a really fantastic point.

[–]honestlyimeanreally 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And yet, the instant response for most people will be "that's sports not news! News is different; we have the right to know!"

But the concept of a copycat transcends these labels, "news" or "sports" or anything else, because it's based on human behavior.

It is a great point.

[–]magicdonkey 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is a fascinating observation.

[–]snowmandan 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What a craaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzy idea! It's almost like the Muslim who apparently was scared into selling his account, which was then used to post a "as a Muslim I like the Muslim registry!" post in t-d was true. Theyve got every side controlled and they're using t-d to spur hate.

[–]ItsAboutSharing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I do wonder how we are going to eventually fix this problem. I can imagine some form of ID to stop shill accounts, but ID's come with their own problems. Any ideas?

[–]AbortionBurger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Voat went invite only to stop it, I assume they're going to let more people in once they've cleaned out the shills. Maybe a temporary change to the subs that are heavily infiltrated until we can clean house?

[–]satisfyinghump -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The antisem, is a tactic I feel, so no one takes the voat stuff seriously, who's in the media/public.

[–]ConstitutionalTrump 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I was up early this morning when the thread titled "Russia plans immediate 'counter-measures' after US ejects 35 diplomats" was posted. That title was the same title used by The Guardian. Then the Guardian edited it to now say "Putin says Russia will not expel US diplomats in tit-for-tat measure." The Donald added a flair that says "BAD TITLE" when, in fact, it was the original title. Not only was the title of the article changed, the content of the article was changed as well. This is my first post in that thread...

Russian authorities on Thursday ordered that the Anglo-American School of Moscow be closed, according to CNN,... There was no official confirmation of the move, which may be... Zakharova denied that Russia would target the school in response. “It’s a lie,”

CNN and the Guardian are fake news. This is a sensational scare piece. Hopefully the intention isn't to set the narrative that Russia is "furious" to pave the way for a false flag operation. I wouldn't put anything past this Citibank administration. The only credible information in this article was this...

“It seems the White House has now gone completely mad

These were copy/paste snippets done by me directly from the article but now they are gone. T_D is compromised again. To me, that raises concerns of an incoming effort to hide something about to come out.

[–]martini-meow 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

http://newsdiffs.org might be able to document those edits to the Guardian article? What's the url?

[–]Amos_Quito 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was up early this morning when the thread titled "Russia plans immediate 'counter-measures' after US ejects 35 diplomats" was posted. That title was the same title used by The Guardian. Then the Guardian edited it to now say "Putin says Russia will not expel US diplomats in tit-for-tat measure." The Donald added a flair that says "BAD TITLE" when, in fact, it was the original title. Not only was the title of the article changed, the content of the article was changed as well.

Indeed it was.

Here is an archive of the original Guardian article: https://archive.is/XYZgL

Here is an archive of the EDITED article - same URL: https://archive.is/SrWfc

And here is an image comparing screen shots of both: http://i.imgur.com/olVM86Q.png

As noted in the image, the New York Times pulled the SAME SHIT yesterday on the same topic:

NYT Original: https://archive.is/5wnIs#selection-1805.0-1805.62

NYT Edited: https://archive.is/smfm0#selection-1799.0-1799.49

Screen shots of the NYT articles: http://i.imgur.com/B7ALwx9.png

Takeaway lesson: MSM CANNOT BE TRUSTED. PERIOD

[–]ConstitutionalTrump 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yahoo did the same thing too.

[–]ConstitutionalTrump [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And they changed the time to say it was written at 10:50 EST Dec. 30th What a joke.

[–]djklbd 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Jesus christ...They fucking muted you wow

[–]FindMeTheTruth[S] 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Which posts got me banned?"

"We don't tolerate something something!"

"But which posts had that?"

[MUTED]

[–]IsaiahHoyt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah a I got banned but for a different reason. From what I remember I posted on a thread that wanted to go on r/politics and tell them how Trump won, and I commented and said "Count me in" got banned.

[–]I-Am-Not-CIA-Agent 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Literally just had the same happen to me

[–]HS_00 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is a standard /r/worldnews tactic, too.

[–]WhenYouCloseYourEyes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I got banned and muted recently for posting a quote by a liberal saying they "should send Trump thousands of dildos"

the mod thought I was suggesting to send dildos, was banned

when he unbanned me I thanked him and was muted

who knows why - they are probably swamped

[–]ghost_of_stonetear 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, this shit was so obvious. They have been banning people and removing any posts that don't kiss Israel's ass and the users were getting pissed.

Then they come out with this, make jokes about how it is "the most useless bit of information, but we are giving it out anyway. Look how transparent we are!"

Is obviously trying to get out in front of "the mods are doing some shady shit" to which there is plenty of peoof. Just go look at the ceddit versions of any of the "Israel is great" threads and you can see it clear as day.

I legit got banned for something I never said. The message said I was banned for saying "the mods are compromised" which I never wrote. I responded with "check out my post, I never said that" and was muted.

Ban with response. http://imgur.com/oKk7opj.jpg

Muted http://imgur.com/9GnlyIJ

Threads showing deleted posts.

https://www.ceddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5kxqxw/this_image_triggers_muslims_and_their_neo_nazi/

https://www.ceddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5kw2c7/rall_doesnt_want_to_see_this_on_the_front_page/

https://www.ceddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5kpsa4

https://www.ceddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5kq9dv/benjamin_netanyahu_warned_un_settlement_vote_a/

Edit: spelling, grammar, and added links

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The_Donald, much like every other political sub that's popular, looks like a cheerleading convention for Israel.

[–]Telenerd 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You spoke out for Palestinians and equated their treatment to nazi occupation. Reality hurts.

[–]ig-Pay-atin-Lay 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Indeed. T_D is a 24/7 pep-rally, not a discussion sub. No criticism of Trump or his policies tolerated.

[–]Telenerd 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

To be fair we haven't seen his policies implemented yet and he talks a hell of a lot. It's hard to guage what he will actually do. But The_Donald is a Trump echo chamber.

[–]ig-Pay-atin-Lay 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I didn't mean it as a negative thing, just a fact. Same if you went to a Clinton sub and started concern trolling... they would probably mute/ban as well. Especially over something as polarizing as Israel.

[–]Telenerd 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's true but it is interesting and somewhat surprising that the most notorious online presence of Trump supporters is so pro-zionist that they actually ban and mute opposing views.

[–]perfect_pickles -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

a Clinton sub

would have been a waste of time.

r_T_D had 250K subscribers and was very very busy in the run up, r_HRC had 25K and was a ghost town with a literal handful of votes and comments per thread. low energy indeed.

HRC inc just pocketed the $1.5B in donations and that was that, no real campaigning aprt from some CTR social shite.

[–]advancedrescue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you been to politics sub?

[–]NNYPhillipJFry [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

sounds like /r/The_Donald and /r/Pyongang aren't to far apart.

[–]_OCCUPY_MARS_ 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/The_Donald shifted their agenda dramatically after the election and, more importantly, after the Spez meltdown. It would be hard for someone to not realize that.

Mods changed their narrative to ban tangential threads that were the foundation of that subreddit. Admins banned their sticky threads and changed the algorithm/point scoring method to decrease the number of threads that reach /r/all.

The once "high energy" subreddit, whether you think it was bots or not, was knocked down to medium energy in order to fit in with the other "dae 2016" memes and cat gifs.

[–]redditfuckingsucksyo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I can tell you I've noticed from posting a bunch of different things in T_D that certain threads about certain topics it seems that even if you get 100-500 upvotes in an hour or two you never break 1000. There's not even any downvotes its like the threads just stall. But other topics skyrocket no problem.

[–]ItsAboutSharing 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I spend a lot of time on The_Donald and it is amazing the pro Israeli sentiment that is just overwhelming. I hadn't seen that before. I was attacked or down voted for asking questions about the Obama abstain and what not. I really don't know a lot but it just seemed so one sided there. Something is up. I am still hoping Trump can correct the pedophilica satanical mess the globalists are in. Jail time, hanging time...

Guys, social media is the new MSM. And it won't be a day too soon that we are on (as an intermediary) Voat.co, Gab, etc to help resolve some of the problem. We will find a way in time.

[–]perfect_pickles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

social media is the new MSM.

they think it is.

its going to bite them bigtime, HRC gambled on her social media gurus stealing the election for her with maximum profit ($1.5B),

they failed.

[–]I-Am-Not-CIA-Agent 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Banned for the same thing, and then muted for 72 hours for asking for clarification.

[–]drseus127 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The problem is that the subreddit is too much an echo chamber. I'm a trump supporter and I can't go-to the_donald anymore. Maybe sometimes I want to read a level headed statement on why trumps Israel policy sucks, even if I don't agree with it

[–]perfect_pickles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the neo-nazi crowd have taken over R_D, thats obvious as hell. (given to them)

this has been allowed by reddit admins, its a deliberate fouling of the subreddit to discredit and hinder genuine political talk.

they got butthurt over Spez and his DC cafe exposure. and the sly modification of people comments to discredit them. libel and slander btw.

[–]dentistshatehim 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was banned from T_D for mentioning his environmental policy. It will be interesting over the next few years to watch TD ban all the America firsters and anti corruption advocates.

[–]eaglejm 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah the blind support of Israel as if they were our bff, when in reality they use us as a tool to further their agenda solely. Its a one way relationship that's for sure. Also they are certainly one of the top intelligence agencies that are spying on America. Why would they be doing that if we are such amazing bffs? I can't mention any of this in T_D or I'd be banned I'm sure.

[–]KaptainKorn 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey look at that. They are found guilty of doing the same thing they claim makes them different from others. Took them a little under 2 months to do it.

[–]ToddMcNab 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love how the mods have to get in the last word before muting him.

[–]perfect_pickles 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

its childish, which demonstrates how old these retards are.

one day they are minecrafting or CoDing, then suddenly they are international subredit moderators with insane 1337 powers.

so we end up with twenty year old little hitlers,

[–]ToddMcNab 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ELI5 Where, why and how did Israel get this much power over America/Reddit/News/Etc,etc,etc???

[–]snowmandan 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Can we make a trump sided sub that allows dissenting opinions but doesn't tolerate shilling? Like a place for reasonable discussion about politics? Doesn't even have to be pro trump but we should have a place where we can civilly discuss politics uncensored, without shills, without resorting to this sub. R/politics has been dead for awhile. I'll even be a mod, I don't give a fuck, I'm just tired of seeing the heavy censorship.

[–]moar_distractions 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Impossible. Every time someone tries, trump supporters show up with memes and generally shitty attitudes.

[–]snowmandan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't allow memes, don't allow shitty attitudes. They've got plenty of that on their own sub. I want to make a politics sub that is rooted in fact. Speculation and opinion is good, but only if it is recognized as that. I want to force anyone who may participate, to be open minded and willing to entertain ideas that they may not support.

We will not ban or remove based on the opinion of the user, but strictly on the state of mind of the user.

[–]moar_distractions -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been tried. /r/neutralpolitics isn't so bad. Every other one just ends up picking a side. You'll end up with pepe and pizzagate eventually on anything slightly right leaning.

Just look at this sub, it's over run already.

[–]kenyonsky 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Try /r/asktrumpsupporters

[–]Throwawaysssss99 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/politicaldiscussion but you'll probably be banned if you start mouthing off about pizzagate and stupid shit pushed by Russian propagandists

[–]snowmandan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the Bernie r/politics. And while I liked Bernie, I'm sure the mods there are bought off too. We need a place where pizzagate along with other things that may be taboo to the mainstream can be discussed without bias. We need a place that is rooted in fact. We are straying dangerously from fact and should have a place to protect truth and facts.

[–]32_M_ID 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Propaganda is actually pushed by all sides. So i wont refute your statement that Russia pushes propaganda. Can we also agree that they are not the only ones? In fact its almost like they pretend fight to pit us against each other.........

[–]uhuhuhu -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

>doesn't tolerate shilling?

Define "shilling".
There is no way to differentiate between shills and actual Clinton supporters.

[–]snowmandan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are plenty of ways to differentiate it. Shills use specific recognizable tactics to steer conversation and derail productive reasoning. They don't have any logic. It is possible to logically and civilly discuss the election and policies with a "Clinton supporter" so long as that supporter is logical and open minded themselves and willing to entertain another point of view.

Shills use short and distracting comments that fail to address the big picture. They insult in order to trigger. They use text lingo and caps sometimes in subs where that is uncommon "LOL trust me........." kind of thing. It's getting easier to identify them as time goes on.

[–]moar_distractions -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Impossible. trump supporters won't even entertain the thought that people just hate trump.

[–]9shucky9ducky9 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is why you can't trust either side. One side has a victory and they go full tilt censorship.

[–]redditfuckingsucksyo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's so true. I've come to learn there are logical and sensible people on both "sides" but it seems that the loud ignorant batshit crazy are a much larger percentage of both major parties and worse they are blind followers. I've voted Democrat before and this was the first time I voted Republican in my life. I've never considered myself part of either party and I don't think most intelligent people do. I can't fathom how people blindly follow the loudest idiots that agree with them.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]banme- 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dusty confirms conspiratard is JIDF. Who else isn't the least bit shocked?

The Logical conclusion for those paying attention to the reddit divide and conquer techniques - JIDF also runs r/conspiracy

[–]LightBringerFlex 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lot of people are getting banned by the masses.

[–]szlachta 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Divide and Conquer

[–]trickster55 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Contact the other mods if possible. Let them know.

[–]chickyrogue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

dont worry lots of other threads to hang on oncest its destroyed from within they will get tired of it and then it should bounce back....

i highly recommend r/holofractal

[–]Denmark1976 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Reddit modus operandi, it happened to r/conspiracy and r/politics too, it will happen again, until no one no longer bothers to visit Shiddit ever again.

[–]AWokenBeetle [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agreed, as someone who voted Trump and use to be a regular poster on T_D, the place has really gone downhill to me, it's LITERALLY nothing but dank memes, ALL Muslims are bad, we LOVE Israel, and Guns, Bewbs, Guns. No one talks about PizzaGate, Ending the Fed, not supporting Zionist Ambition at the expense of the American people, more Wars, Goldman Sachs lining the cabinet positions, the Central Bank being the power source for Globalism and stopping them, etc etc.

It's really kind of sad that the place went from being a great source of information that the establishment media never covered and a means to discuss ideas on how to stop globalism, to being a internet caricature of Fox News and the atypical American idiot.

[–]BiglyMAGA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Funnily enough, I got banned at The_Donald for not being anti-Israel!

[–]SoberKid420 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pussies. Cowards. Fucking pathetic.

[–]LOST_TALE 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol what's wrong with white nationalism? It's great

[–]auriem [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No dissent is permitted to ensure the trumpkins stay happy and safe in donalds arms.

[–]JamesStrangefellow -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is all a fucking game.

When will you get that?

[–]JamesStrangefellow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If it takes what you define as 'reality' completely unraveling around you, then so be it. I'd actually prefer it that way anyway.

[–][削除されました]  (2子コメント)

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    [–]volksssgemeinschaft 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    What other reason would they have to "keep discussion and debate about Israel off that specific sub" other than to silence critical opinions of Israel?

    [–][削除されました]  (6子コメント)

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      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It's you who will be banned if you continue making comments like this. First warning.

      [–]kaedanir -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      But.. he is actually a holocaust denier. Ban me all you want.

      If you could keep the neonazis contained here that would be great.

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Behavior is moderated here, not opinions. Try to realize the distinction and be a little bit more mindful going forward and there won't be any issues.

      [–]TheButtKnight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Who doesn't know how to spell faggot

      [–][削除されました]  (4子コメント)

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        [–]FindMeTheTruth[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Two separate mods are bots?

        [–]aqua7 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        They are referring to you OP. t_d has gone down the tubes. Bunch of hypocrites. discussion here

        [–]tkreidolon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

        I wonder what trump supporters off the internet would say to defend him when faced with the reality that trump cucks for israel.

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