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Community Updates (self.sugarlifestyleforum)

malibijonesSugar Daddy が 投稿 - announcement

All i hope you are having an excellent holiday season. I wanted to let everyone know there are changes being made behind the curtain (stop looking!) and i want to assure everyone the sub will continue to cater to Sugar Arrangements. We will how ever shift focus to somewhat common arrangements (dare i say traditional) and not cater to "everything under the sun".

With that said we will be looking for additional mods to help us keep the sub running and hopefully improve it.

With change comes curiosity and concerns and I get it. Try to be patient and see if you agree with the direction of the sub in the weeks to come. If you enjoy it, great! If you feel it's not for you I understand and encourage you to start a sub that caters to your specific interests.

Feel free to ask questions but be patient. Now that there are only 2 MODS we won't be able to answer everyone.

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[–]JJBABYYSugar Baby 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is such a shit show. MI did so much as a mod. Malibi you went off to take care of work stuff and that is understanable but MI held the fort while you did whatever it is you do. Ph1sh you come out publicly once in a blue moon. Maybe if there were more SD mods MI wouldn't have to constantly look like the bad guy policing everyone. So typical, women are always doing thankless jobs. I am so disappointed. And if MI was removed because she isn't a "traditional" SB then malibi you need to step down as well because backseat blowjobs are NOT "traditional" SB actions. Ugh. What else isn't "traditional"? SM's, male SB's, people going through sexual transitioning? Since SB's made a lot more average before the bowl got popular small ppm's aren't "traditional" either. Even just this post could have been better thought out.

[–]cybernvt 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes. they ban SBs for supposedly being escorts (which they are not) yet their own arrangements (and many other SDs) are super close to escorting.

[–]Reddington3Sugar Daddy -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did she do so much as a mod? I put in a string of reports on legit violations and heard nothing.

[–]MISugarBabySugar Baby 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not sure if my post will be removed or if I'll be banned, but I just wanted to say my piece since I'm at the center of this drama.

I do not know the exact reasons that caused Merc and I to be removed as mods today. I could hazard a guess, but it's not particularly helpful to try. What I can say is that during my time as a mod I tried my best to be fair and keep the sub running. It wasn't easy and I certainly wasn't perfect. But I did my best and turned to my fellow mods for input when I was uncertain about what to do. For the most part we worked as a team and looked to each other for guidance and approval before taking action.

While we worked as a team, I was by far the most active mod simply due to the fact that I work a desk job that makes it easy for me to be on Reddit often. There was a lot of mod work to do, and I could do it, so I did. The alternative was to allow reports to pile up without action and for modmail to go unanswered. Truthfully, I wish there were a SD who was able to put in the same amount of time and effort. I think it would have benefited the sub and allowed a more balanced moderation. While I strived to be neutral, it's impossible to be 100% unbiased and an active SD mod could have helped to balance the sub.

Moving forward I wish the best for SLF and the mods. /u/ph1shtaco and /u/malibijones are both decent guys. I certainly have fought tooth and nail with them over a variety of things, but they're not bad men. I hope my fellow SBs try to keep that in mind.

I hope SLF of 2017 is a wonderful place for all to come together.

[–]ph1shtaco👌💯 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly have nothing but the good things to say about your modding or contributing to the forum. Banning you or merc is not necessary, your voice and contribution are important. Merc was removed temporary for posting a private screenshot, we will add her back should she decide that it is appropriate

 

I am going to lock this shit show in a sec, but again - I am sorry it came down to this

[–]cybernvt 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (30子コメント)

I'm probably going to be banned for this but whatever :) The fact that you removed all the female mods is a joke. Plus uggo and sugar honey? Neither of which are "escorts". They were literally banned because SDs don't like them because they ask for higher allowances. Yet all the SDs who condone hotel only (basically escorting) is totally allowed. Makes TONS of sense. Guess we aren't allowed to speak our minds here anymore. Might as well be cabal 2.0. Unless we ascribe to what the SDs opinion on an "appropriate" way to sugar, you'll be kicked out. How lovely. Literally speechless right now.

[–]sugarabbit 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Let's be honest. One of the (2) Mods admits that his own SR's skirt the line between sugar and escorting (that's really the closest he'll get to admitting the truth) so the levels of hypocrisy here are just laughable.

As you've said, any hint of disagreement/ dissent will probably get a ban in this new autocratic SDCabal 2.0 but it just needs to be said.

[–]cybernvt 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'm so angry my blood is boiling. I'm friends with two SBs who were kicked out completely unfairly. Uggo and SugarHoney. Neither of which are "escorts". Both of which I know are legit SBs. Both banned with zero warning. Apparently there's no tolerance for high allowances, but lower than average is completely fine. This is so unfair. This is supposed to be a place where both sides can come and express opinions. Apparently now that's only if your opinion is in line with the mods.

[–]midwestsdSugar Daddy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (10子コメント)

They were not escorts but they were constantly bashing sugar daddies all the time. Their condescending posts and comments were without merit.

Uggo was a nursing home sugar baby predator. She targeted old weak men. She constantly talked down to anyone who didn't command $1000 per meet . This is not sugar. Someone could get zero someone could get $10,000 per meet. It makes no difference.

She also advocated doxxing and even gave an example of doing it to someone on seeking arrangement.

[–]sugarbunnyhunSugar Baby 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We know malibi specifically said "WE ARE REMOVING THE ESCORTS TONIGHT." No other reason.

[–]cybernvt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and most of them weren't escorts, not even close. they used to call them rinsers, and now they're escorts? don't quite get that logic.

[–]cybernvt 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

And sugarhoney? What did she do to deserve being banned? This forum is spilling over with rude posts from SDs bashing SBs. Why haven't they been banned?

[–]midwestsdSugar Daddy -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Plenty of sugar daddies have been banned. There are just far fewer of them due to the ratio in the bowl. Sugar honey had quite a few comments that were gender bashing toward men.

In the end, creative disruption is sometimes necessary to move ahead.

[–]cybernvt 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

She bashed SPECIFIC SDs. Not SDs as a whole. The posts were targeted at specific situations. And uggo? So what if she wants 1k per meet. Some people brag and refuse to do more than $250 per meet.

Say what you want to justify it, but it's not fair. It's literally personal dislike. But maybe I should just stop arguing with you or I'll get banned because SD word is law now.

[–]midwestsdSugar Daddy -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

We can have an intelligent discussion about this as long as you want. Read my post. No one gives two shits if someone pays zero for somebody pays $1 million per meet. The constant bashing of men and women who pay and accept different amounts is not acceptable.

[–]cybernvt 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Neither of them bashed them though...they just stated what THEY expected. That's it. That's not bashing.

[–]midwestsdSugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's entirely inaccurate. They were condescending and unnecessarily obtuse toward other sugar babies who accepted lower amounts. Uggo was not even able to hold down in arrangement for more than a few months.

I wouldn't take those opinions as the gold standard for sugar babies.

[–]2monosaccharides 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Someone just make a completely new account on reddit and send me a screenshot of all SBC threads that were made and spread that to the public. In most cases I don't advocate drama or want to involved in one but seriously, are people that paranoid that they need constant check up on what the other side have to say behind closed doors to get a leg up in an argument.

[–]sugarabbit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh?

I'm not even part of SBC... Malibi has said that here himself - I'd find it if I had the time/ inclination, which I don't - so I'm not sure where you're going with this?

[–]SugarSurvivor -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

And one of the two SB mods made it a hobby to gather information about the SD's on here. They're both equally evil in my book.

[–]cybernvt 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's just not fair that all this has turned into is an us vs. them. People are supposed to be able to come and discuss as long as they aren't breaking the rules. They are literally banning SBs they don't like. And some of them just because they don't like the fact they ask for higher allowances! So high allowances are wrong, but super low ones aren't? That seems fair.

[–]midwestsdSugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No one has ever said that. But the constant putting down of men or women who offer or accept lower allowances is not acceptable.

[–]sugarabbit 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

But the constant putting down of men or women who offer or accept lower allowances is not acceptable.

You do exactly the same to higher allowances. That should be equally unacceptable.

Does it make you feel insecure or what? Because I literally can't think of any other reason why you would give a fuck about how someone else conducts their affairs. Help me out here.

[–]cybernvt 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly what I was thinking. Then they tell themselves they're "fake" to make themselves feel better? When both of them have posted proof and someone has even met one of them?

Plus any time high allowances are mentioned SDs feel the need to bash them and talk about how unrealistic it is. Apparently that's okay.

Can't find anywhere where anyone said "this is the right way to sugar, if you take any less you're cheap and dumb"

[–]midwestsdSugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have never put anyone down for offering a higher amount. I've offered amounts that vary between zero dollars and $5000.

I've had plenty of successful arrangements. I'm simply pointing out the reasons for why we are where we are at with us versus them attitude on this sub. I'm looking forward to better dialogue.

[–]cybernvt 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neither uggo nor sugarhoney bashed them. They just spoke about their own experiences. SDs have equally bashed them for expecting higher. They don't deserve to be banned just because SDs don't like them. Choosing when to enforce and when not to is a joke.

[–]sugarabbit 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They're both equally evil

Ok, now you're just a complete drama queen. Do you know what 'evil' means?

[–]SugarSurvivor -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My apologies -- one is disrespectful, the other is evil.

Neither one of them should be in a position of leadership or power.

[–]throwoutSB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well now I'm curious. Who is which and why?

[–]phillysb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And cybernvt was banned. How nice mods :)

[–]SpendItRightSugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If true, that was obviously coming. I'm interested to hear a full explanation but it's really easy to see who here is able to have a reasonable discussion.

[–]SpendItRightSugar Daddy -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you really think that's why they were banned? C'mon. How can there even be a rationale discussion if that's what you feel.

Think it's clear more explanation will be forthcoming.

[–]Volturi6271Spoiled Girlfriend 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So they removed the mods who were actually moderating? Since the 2 that are left are too busy to be mods they pretty much left this as a free for all right?

[–]Reddington3Sugar Daddy -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Were they moderating? I never got a response on reports and nothing was ever done.

[–]sbbaearea 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Feel free to ask questions but be patient. Now that there are only 2 MODS we won't be able to answer everyone.

My question is why you kicked out your two SB mods? After so much hard work that they put in monitoring the sub, doing such a thankless job, why were they treated like that without so much as an explanation or farewell from you (according to their post)? Or how true was that?

I know you guys are reading through this thread because you deleted that comment that linked to one of the ex mod's post about being kicked out...

ETA: this thread is a shit show now so I really doubt I will hear from a mod. But I find it hard to believe you guys didn't anticipate this so who knows, you're probably sitting back and enjoying this confusion and arguing. If you respect and care about your community, I think the right thing to do would be to make a new post actually explaining what happened and why the sudden official change.

And I'm not just talking about this incident either but this apparent "cleaning house" that was encouraged by the SD private sub. I'm curious as to what you guys have to say.

[–]sugarbunnyhunSugar Baby 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It seriously feels like this sub is anti-SB now. Why did they remove MI and merc without even speaking to them? SO confused.

[–]cybernvt 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Plus banning successful SBs who I know for a FACT are not escorts. Just because they don't agree with what they say. This does nothing but further the whole us vs them issue. Except now you'll be silenced if you speak out.

[–]sugarbunnyhunSugar Baby 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES. /u/malibijones and /u/ph1shtaco, care to elaborate on how /u/kindacrazyuggo and /u/sugarhoneyicedtea630 among others who were banned were considered "escorts" in your eyes? I understand you want this sub to be SR-based, but there are SDs who I KNOW met sugarhoney at least and KNOW she is a legit SB.

Also, will any SDs be banned with these new changes?

[–]Reddington3Sugar Daddy -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uggo does weekends with strangers sight unseen. How is that not escorty?

[–]Circe01 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You guys should probably stop deleting the post. It's looks bad and it doesn't inspire confidence in the remaining memebers of this forum. All you're doing is reaffirming their concerns that any voice that is in opposition to you guys will be silenced.

The best thing you guys could do is to actually issue a statement that explains the reasons behind this change. Otherwise speculations will continue to run rampant. If the people don't trust/respect those who lead, it becomes harder for the leaders to govern the people...

[–]throwoutSB 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This seems reasonable. An explanation would go a long way here.

[–]SugarQuailSpoiled Girlfriend 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah. I like how they're too busy deleting posts to actually respond to anything. Thanks for finally stepping in as moderators!

[–]phillysb 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And continues to further the point that they are censoring and banning on personal grounds.

[–]vanillagraySugar Baby 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This forum has consistently promoted transparency in SRs and to see the removal of both female mods without a clear reason is a bit worrisome. I will refrain from further judgement as it's unclear what is happening behind closed doors. I hope that this subreddit will still be a great universal resource for people wanting to enter/receive support for sugar relationships and not become a biased judgemental blood bath...

[–]sugarbunnyhunSugar Baby 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally agree.

[–]throwoutSB 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (26子コメント)

Did the two girls quit? I don't understand why there's only SD mods now. Seems unfair.

[–]cybernvt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They didn't quit. They were kicked out. For standing up for the SBs who the SDs picked on literally just because they personally didn't like them. MI and Merc were pretty much the only ones modding lately. Anyone who disagrees now gets kicked out, regardless of rule breaking. Funny how they supposedly kicked out SBs for being escort, but the same SDs who advocate incredibly low PPM and indoor only arrangements (which is actually escorting, are allowed to remain) How fair!

And now I'll probably be banned now for literally just disagreeing with the mods. Not breaking any rules. What a fair forum to be a part of.

[–]throwoutSB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. That doesn't seem very fair :/

[–]Circe01 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That was my first thought too, that they quit. Maybe they didn't like the shift towards a forum catering to a more traditional form of sugar.

[–]mythinmint 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They didn't quit they were removed because they refused to remove members who never actually broke rules more than average, just started in ways the male mods disagreed

[–]Circe01 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It has since been brought to my attention that that is indeed the case though I don't know the reason behind that decision. I wasn't aware that they were removed when I originally made that comment.

[–]LadyLeisure 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (11子コメント)

So there are no longer any female mods? What prompted this change?

[–]BlissfulSBSpoiled Girlfriend 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I am confused. There were 4 mods, now down to two? Why would you remove 2 mods before adding any? I think it's pretty clear to most of us that SLF has been a bit unstable lately, I think it would have made sense to have successors placed before going down to half. It seems the mods that were removed are the ones who have actually been modding. Regardless of if you agree with the way they modded, it's sad to see that actually doing what they were supposed to do caused their downfall so to speak. I don't know how this happened and obviously don't have all the details but I have to say I am disappointed and sad frankly.

[–]sugarabbit 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It seems the mods that were removed are the ones who have actually been modding

WORD.

[–]sugarbunnyhunSugar Baby 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

^ TRUTH. I'm afraid this sub is going to spiral out of control, now...

[–]cybernvt 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The mods literally said "I and the other male mod are tired of the ladies bullshit"

Word for word. So if ANY of them try to spin this for any more than plain personal dislike, they're lying through their teeth.

[–]midwestsdSugar Daddy -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's nowhere in this post that says that whatsoever. I think you're really reaching here.

[–]SpendItRightSugar Daddy -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"bullshit" doesn't equal dislike. It may mean refusal to apply rules equally. You're emotional now as you admit and saying a lot of things that make no sense. So, there's no point in explaining it but let's see what the reasons are if/when elaborated. Reasons are fairly obvious I think and no, it's not about high allowances. That's ridiculous. Happy for any girl to make as much as she can.

[–]cybernvt 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then why? Go through their posts if you like, I have. I can't find anywhere they've broken the rules. It also came out of nowhere as neither of them were hardly active on Reddit today. If the reasons are fairly obvious - what are they?

[–]SpendItRightSugar Daddy -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll let the mods answer that but mention it in another reply to you. But I don't think anything that disagrees with you on this when you're upset will matter or be seen in a fair manner so I probably shouldn't bother.

[–]SugarQuailSpoiled Girlfriend 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems the mods that were removed are the ones who have actually been modding.

It's OK, now I can shitpost until my eyes bleed because no one will be watching the sub.

Whichever SDs step up to take on this thankless job, remember: you'll be doing it alone, since Malibi and Ph1shtaco seem to have stepped out a long time ago.

[–]Reddington3Sugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't feel like they were modding and if they were it was slanted. The reason I say that is that I made several reports on serious issues......crickets.

[–]phillysb 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's really great that you guys are deleting posts. Doesn't make you look guilty at all. By the way, yes, the SBC and cabal are private, but it's not against Reddit rules to screen shot. But I guess I'm not surprised now that you guys censor anything that makes you look bad, yet fail the address the major issue.

Also, since when can you ban someone without any prior warning at all? Seems a little intense, unless they were threatening violence or something of the sort.

This sub is becoming a joke.

[–]Circe01 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll reserve judgment and wait to see what you guys actually do before jumping to conclusions. Especially since I'm not aware of what went on behind the scenes. Just try to keep us in the loop as much as you guys can.

[–]sucrosefather1Sugar Daddy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://imgur.com/S6HAKVZ

[–]Reddington3Sugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mod job aside, MiSugarbaby was posting screenshots of private subs. If you ask me, that seriously destroys credibility/trustworthiness.

[–]malibijonesSugar Daddy[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone has had the opportunity to weigh in. Locking...

[–]SugarSurvivor -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Classic news spin: If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation.

In the end, the guys will become better friends, and the ladies will tear themselves apart. I've seen it happen at so many other places (Eros, TRB, Get Lucky Tonight).