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Do you guys actually believe in chemtrails? (self.conspiracy)

Carnivorousbeaver が 投稿

It's so ridiculous to me that people can actually believe "the government is using aviation for mind control." How many people actually believe in this?

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[–]Donkmaymays 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well the fact that the government is using MSM for mind control is kind of where the slippery slope begins. Not saying I believe in chemtrails per say, but the idea isn't too far-fetched in my honest opinion.

[–]southernboi86 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://geopolitics.co/2015/08/18/peer-reviewed-scientific-evidence-exposes-chemtrail-as-crime-against-humanity/

[–]NoNameForSteve 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://prof77.wordpress.com/wtf/strange-satellite-image-downloaded-from-austrailian-weather-site/

Why is it ridiculous. Because you're told that it is? Just "because"? Strange things happen all around us all the time. Having an open mind for learning is imperative for our survival as a species. Who was the 1st human to harness fire and use it, were they "ridiculous"

[–]Carnivorousbeaver[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have an open mind, but if you tell me orange juice is milk I don't think it's close minded to think it's silly.

[–]donald_cheese 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yes. The emissions that are expelled from jet engines contain a dangerous concoction of chemicals that are impacting the environment.

I dispair at deniers who insist it's just water that comes out.

[–]Carnivorousbeaver[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

So tens of thousands of aviation workers are "in on it?" Pilots, mechanics, inspectors, everyone? It just seems more and more silly. You can look up the science of it, it's just water vapour.

[–]donald_cheese 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Think about it. What comes out of a planes engines is not just water. Just as what comes out of a car is not water either.

Once you're on the same page we can continue.

[–]King-Hell 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, it is water and carbon dioxide, with a tiny amount of soot.

[–]donald_cheese 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A few other things, but yes. You're right.

Congratulations. You are now a chemtrailer. You have my deepest sympathies.

Most people, including OP believe it is just water.

They really think this.

No, not c02 with some other compounds. But water.

Getting people to even acknowledge exhaust gasses contain anything other than water is near impossible. To go the next step and discuss materials that are included to alter the atmosphere is just too far. You'll only end up going in circles.

It is not a subject that can be discussed in any rational sense. Or at least I don't know how to.

All I can say is do some research. Speak to people. And most importantly, just look up.

[–]anarchopotato 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

its not done by commercial airliners. Its done by black SAPs. and its done at altitudes higher than commercial airlines fly

[–]King-Hell -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yet someone like you will contradict that by pointing at a sky criss-crossed with contrails and claim that THIS is the evidence for chemtrails.

[–]swansong19 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Geezus…it's not about "belief".

You keep "believing"…we'll keep observing and thinking.

[–]King-Hell -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, you'll keep 'Looking up', but you won't do much thinking. Because unless you take a look at the rational scientific explanation for contrails you aren't thinking at all, just repeating somebody else's woowoo.

[–]SpiritWolfie 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're combining questions here and they actually need to be separated.

The questions are:
1) Do we believe the govt is spraying something in the atmosphere?
2) Do we believe that whatever they're spraying is for the purpose of mind control?

When you're outside on a sunny day and see numerous trails across the sky stretching from horizon to horizon in multiple directions then yes, it appears quite honestly like someone is spraying something. It's far too difficult to believe these are simply contrails caused by changes in air pressure over airfoils. Keep in mind, contrails are very real and different than chemtrails.

So my answer to #1 is yes.

However why they are spraying is another matter all together.

I'm old enough to remember that back in the 80s and 90s it was common knowledge that the govt would 'seed' clouds. This was back before the internet but I remember lots of conversations about seeding clouds to make rain and I never really questioned it. I was just told they're spraying to make it rain. Ok....cool.

However do I think they're spraying for mind control? I don't know but it seems a bit far fetched. The question that has to be answered is "how are they avoiding the effects?" because the spray has to hit them and their families.

So my answer to #2 is I don't know but just because something is difficult to explain doesn't mean it's not true. There have been many conspiracy theories over the years that were later proven to be true.

[–]King-Hell 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's far too difficult to believe these are simply contrails caused by changes in air pressure over airfoils.

That is because they are not caused by the airfoil; they are caused by the fuel. Jet fuel is a hydrocarbon. It breaks down into carbon dioxide and water when it burns. Lots and lots of water. In fact, 1.2 tons of water for every ton of fuel burned. The temperature up there is -50 so the water freezes instantly into ice crystals. Depending on how much moisture there is in the air, these crystals will either disappear through sublimation, or grow in size through deposition. (Contrails either disappear or grow in size).

[–]Ilsaluna 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you know NASA is on record with admitting that lithium and other chemicals are being "placed" into our atmosphere regularly? Are you aware that lithium is regularly prescribed for manic depression and bipolar disorder? I wouldn't say it's being done specifically for mind control, yet I don't think they'd be disappointed if a lethargic populace were one of the side effects.

Here's a link to an article which includes the video from NASA and several links to valid sources with additional data.

[–]King-Hell 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

NASA has done experiments putting a kilo or so of lithium into the Stratosphere to study wind shift patterns at very high altitudes. I think any Stratospheric Aerosol Injection is madness; it's opening a can of worms which can never be closed. That tiny amount of lithium would probably never come down to earth in our lifetimes, but it's still wrong.

[–]Ninjakick666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think that every trail you see in the sky is something nefarious... but I'm open to accept that every once in awhile someone takes a special trip to try spraying out something new... prolly not intending to harm people... maybe just weather experiments that might cause allergic reactions in some people...

[–]Blunt4words20 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The gov has been spraying shit in the skys above us for a long time now there was something declassified recently about droping chemicals over san Francisco. And they do admit to seeding clouds

[–]factsnotfeelings [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Aaron Dover has a theory that the chemtrail conspiracy is to cover up the fact that airplanes fly by harvesting atmospheric electricity.

Lord Steven Christ's theory is that the chemtrails are designed to prevent human activity from causing the ice on the glass sky to melt.

Two very interesting, non-mainstream conspiracies.