Mike Cernovich wants to PUMP you UP
Mike Cernovich is a Trump-loving, conspiracy-slinging alt-right fellow traveler with a nasty habit of smearing people he doesn’t like as pedophiles.
Now he’s become the target of a small army of trolls who have managed to pull off the difficult feat of being even more terrible than he is.
Cernovich, you see, has been organizing something called the Deploraball, a kind of senior prom for Trumpian superfans scheduled for the night before their hero’s inauguration. And he’s been hoping the event will come off smoothly with none of the overtly fascist overtones that marred the recent National Policy Institute convention — you know, the Nazi salutes, the attendance of Hitler-idolizing barely-a-celebrity Tila Tequila, that sort of thing.
A couple of days ago, much to Cerno’s horror, a fellow helping him plan the event — who claims it was actually his idea in the first place — started Tweeting about the, er, Ew-Jays, if you catch my meaning.
Me: Upon research, I noticed Jewish people run 95% of American media that is very interesting
Internet: Why do you want to gas the Jews ?
— Based Alaska™ (@bakedalaska) December 26, 2016
If the screenshots of their alleged internet convos that Baked Alaska posted shortly afterwards are accurate, Cerno reacted with fury, telling him to shut up about the “JQ” — that is, the “Jewish Question.”
PRO TIP: If you’re hanging out with people who will instantly know what you mean when you bring up the “JQ,” there’s a very good chance your friends ARE NAZIS, and you might just be one yourself.
Not that Cerno ever had any illusions about what the alt-right really stood for. In a now-deleted Tweet from last year (archived here), he not only declared himself to be an alt-righter but also echoed the alt-right’s ridiculous rhetoric about so-called “white genocide.”
But the new Mike Cernovich doesn’t want to associate himself with people like, well, the old Mike Cernovich. So he took Mr. Alaska off the party planning committee, and disinvited him from the party.
Baked Alaska is not a member of the Deploraball committee and will not be attending the event. We wish him well.
— Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 (@Cernovich) December 27, 2016
And that’s when things started to go south for Cerno. Mr. Alaska informed his 131,000 followers that Cerno had banned him from the Deploraball. Then he began a counterattack of sorts, which involved making fun of Cerno’s slight lisp
I guess you could say I've been THILENTHED ! lol 😂
— Based Alaska™ (@bakedalaska) December 27, 2016
Lithen up goys! I'm the new twither polithe!! If u thpeak of me again u will not b allowed 2 go to my parthhy! pic.twitter.com/MvlfkC7Qtd
— Based Alaska™ (@bakedalaska) December 27, 2016
After that, the deluge, as Mr. Alaska’s followers piled on, peppering their tweets with every slur they could think of.
@bakedalaska Cuck @Cernovich is an opportunistic money-grubbing whore!!
— Matt (@MaxxBot) December 28, 2016
"Dont want parasites and junkies in my life" has Milo around him hahah @Cernovich is a faggot cuck https://t.co/lhFzF7wMmM
— Nat. (@nofatchx_96) December 28, 2016
So @Cernovich went full cuck. You never go full cuck bro. Let the men be men. Stay out of their way.
— 📎(((Alpha)))📎 (@ChancellorAlpha) December 28, 2016
@Cernovich You've been a drama whore since coat-tailing along the alt-right. Projecting much? Another jew-character.
— Dr. David Soapstein (@Dr_Soapstein) December 28, 2016
. @Cernovich is a cuck, faggot lives off his wifes alimony payments, should really be living in a ditch dying from alcohol poisoning
— Samuel HidesteinX5 (@WIlliamPierceX5) December 27, 2016
@Cernovich Have fun at your faggy sausage party, you lispy jewish faggot.
— offthedust (@offthedust) December 27, 2016
There were literally hundreds more tweets along these lines; they’re probably still going at it.
One inventive fellow repurposed a crude anti-Semitic cartoon, turning it into an attack on Cerno’s alleged treachery:
@bakedalaska @Cernovich pic.twitter.com/hdmQ79MygI
— HightechLowlife (@HitechLowlife88) December 27, 2016
Another posted video of himself literally burning a copy of one of Cerno’s books.
Rekt @Cernovich pic.twitter.com/IgW26hV5Av
— AnimeRight UB (@UntergroundBoss) December 27, 2016
Given his rather, er, casual handing of his can of lighter fluid, it’s kind of amazing AnimeRight UB didn’t reduce himself to ashes alongside Cerno’s book.
Naturally, the waggish Angrew Anglin, head boy at the neo-Nazi tip sheet The Daily Stormer, had a few thoughts on the matter as well. In a celebratory post (archived here), he informed his readers that
[t]he cuck/kike contingent of the Trump movement is cucklapsing/kikelapsing right before our very eyes.
And he warned them that Cernovich’s
Deploraball is apparently an attempt at a sanitized, cuckolded, pro-Jew version of the NPI conference.
Well, you can’t say that Anglin is shy when it comes to talking about the, er, “JQ.”
But the most interesting thing I’ve run across in this glorious debacle came from Mr. Alaska, who posted what he said was a screenshot of an email from Milo Y, apparently in response to an earlier invitation to the bash.
I’m guessing there are a lot more screenshots of Milo missives like this stored on the hard drives of people who have interacted with him in the past. Milo’s inevitable implosion should prove to be interesting to watch.
But back to the here and now. How did Cerno respond to all this vitriol? He put up, then deleted, a Periscope trashing Mr. Alaska as a “junkie” and a “little bitch” with a very low credit score whose mother pays his rent. (You can find the deleted video posted on Youtube here.) In a post on his blog he declared that Mr. Alaska was a con man who “lies about everything.” I guess he’s saving the spurious pedophilia accusations for later.
On Twitter, he posted, and then for some reason deleted, several Tweets claiming that most of the supposed Nazis on Twitter are nothing more than a bunch of “paid shills.” (I got a screenshot of the Tweets before they vanished.) He followed up with a similar claim about the Ku Klux Klan, based on a blatant misreading or misrepresentation of a USA Today article.
The KKK isn't real. It's all (paid) online twitter trolls. That's what you never see them in real life. https://t.co/EAYBxniZxZ
— Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 (@Cernovich) December 28, 2016
Apparently Cerno finds it more comforting to think that the people sending him nasty tweets are paid shills in the employ of some shadowy SJW billionaire than actual human beings who hate his guts (if, alas, for the wrong reasons). Like his idol Trump, Cerno seems to prefer to live in a world of his own imagining.
The Cerno-Alaska falling-out was noisy and nasty enough to spur a second, if somewhat less dramatic, alt-right blowup, with Trump superfan and Twitter activist Bill Mitchell disavowing the alt right on account of all the alt-rightists in it.
Whatever #AltRight was, it's been taken over by white supremacists and I disavow it. I'm #AmericaFirst where we can ALL be great again.
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) December 27, 2016
I don’t have much to add to my original response to his complaint.
I am shocked, SHOCKED, to discover white supremacists in this white supremacist movement! https://t.co/blzFNMTKW9
— David Futrelle (@DavidFutrelle) December 27, 2016
NOTE TO EXTREMELY LITERAL-MINDED READERS: I was being sarcastic. It is of course not very surprising to find white supremacists in a white supremacist movement, and my sarcastic comment, echoing a famous line in Casablanca, was meant to convey my suspicion that Mr. Mitchell was already well-aware that the alt-right, like Rick’s cafe, was filled with Nazis.
I’m still waiting for the inevitable alt-right falling-out with Trump himself. He’s already “disavowed” them. And some of them have gotten themselves pretty worked up about the Happy Hanukkah tweet he sent out on the 24th.
Come on, all you assholes, tear each other to shreds. The world will be a better place once you do.
It’s popcorn time!
And I thought I wasn’t going to get any more Christmas gifts. A circular firing squad amongst these peoples? Aww, and it’s even in my favorite color.
The only good thing to come out of 2016.
2016’s still got three days or so to show us that it wasn’t the year of the alt-right after all. And judging from the err, shall we say “agitation”, in the fever swamps, there’s a good chance it will.
We’ll all be sorry when Mike Cernovich kills us with his BRAIN
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/812103284978630656
Umm, do these guys know Trump has a Jewish son-in-law, a Jewish-convert daughter, and Jewish grandkids?
TFW you need to tell your nazi buddies to stop publicly being nazis
Play the asshole, pay the ass toll
It’s hilarious that Trump hasn’t even taken office yet and his coalition is already turning on each other. What surprise that people who devote their lives to hate cannot play well with others.
It’s also hilarious that Cernovich doesn’t realize that the KKK has been around long before Twitter existed. Is he that ignorant of US history?
@Cat Mara
I was rolling one, had everything on the paper ready to wrap… and then I read that tweet, and laughed so hard I blew it away.
I gotta start over but I regret nothing.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, really.
The incoming regime is going to be odious and dangerous enough, but I won’t be sorry if it is a huge disappointment to the neo Nazis. They will have to make do with more traditional American white supremacy instead. Sad!
*ginch*… *snerk*… hic… GUFFAW!!!!
Drumpf spent his entire campaign insulting and alienating everyone who WASN’T going to vote for him, now it’s time to deal with the ones who DID vote for him. For a man (Drumpf) who is SO ANXIOUS about his image, he sure has a talent for disappointing people.
And Milo wants into the deploraball… but ONLY if it’s ABOUT MEEEEEEEEE
Drumpf is the politician’s “Bernie Madoff”, and Cerno, Anglin, Milo… they’re just marks
I just love it when they eat their own. Saves me getting a lot of bile and gristle in my teeth…
Continue eating each other, preferably to the point where they collectively cripple their ability to harm others.
Well, there is also the Anish Kapoor/Stuart Semple feud.
LOL at Milo saying he doesn’t care about egos in the middle of an email that’s about making everything all about him.
I’m watching the debacle, and it turns out we aren’t the only ones happy about it right now.
… like, the open Nazis see it as an opportunity to purge the “alt-cucks”.
That’s right, keep eating each other while your blind faith in your idiot leader is the only thing you have in common. Hey, that strategy worked out pretty well for the historic Nazis, didn’t it ?
@Cat Mara: So is Mikey going to have to start dressing like Mojo Jojo?
Just in time for pantomime season!
The Pepe Players Present
For One Night Only!
Their Acclaimed Production of
“Cindermilo”
(or, “The DeploraBall”)
Starring
Milo Yabadabadopolous as Cinders
Stefan Molyneux as The Wicked Stepmother
Mike Cernovich as Ugly Sister #1
Matt Forney as Ugly Sister #2
Steve Bannon as the Fairly Oddblogger
Richard Spencer as Prince Charmless
Donald Trump as The Pumpkin
Set Design Ben Garrison
Music Vox Day and the Reddit Tabernacle Choir
“You shall go to the DeploraBall, Cindermilo!”
These are awful people, and it’s no surprise that they’d turn on one of their own as soon as there’s a disagreement.
Let every woman, LGBT person, and person with a disability of any kind take note: these guys will turn on you too. It’s only a matter of time. Being on “their side” won’t keep them from attacking you too.
Seriously hope to see lots more of this in the coming year.
@Cat Mara
Hey look! The reviews are already in!
“Unbelievable display of masterful persuasion! Five Stars!”
-Scott Adams
“Technically, the play is sufficient for its purpose. Masterpiece!”
-Milo Yiappropriategayculturus
This is just such a strange thing to think. I get that not everyone that supports a candidate will have the same viewpoint, but if I felt such strong opposition to a significant “contingent” of my candidate’s supporters, I would probably start questioning if that candidate is right for me. Like, aren’t the “cucks” et al. supposed to be supporting Clinton?
I guess this just shows how meaningless the above labels are – it’s just a way to identify people they disagree with, or anyone who steps out of line. It’s not a meaningful descriptor; just a synonym for “enemy.”
@Mish
Thanks for that link.
Here’s what Becky Barnes @MissPatriarch tweeted:
[Emphasis is Kat’s.]
Their lack of empathy makes them stupid. Dangerously stupid — to others and to themselves.
Empathy is a critical part of emotional IQ. When your emotional IQ is low, all kinds of bad things can happen. Your partner leaves you. You trust a stranger (or a friend!) who doesn’t deserve that trust. You’re unemployable. You don’t have a clue why your child does what she does.
And it is exactly this trait — lack of empathy — that the alt-right celebrates.
“Baked Alaska” wrote:
That tells me 95% of American media is very interesting, in addition to being run by Jewish people. The non-Jewish people must run the other, less interesting 5%.
-Your Humble Grammar Anti-Nazi
ETA: Cat Mara – ha! 🙂
Continuing on from the other thread:
The MRA half of the alt right is SHOCKED to find white supremacists in their white supremacist movement, and the white supremacist half of the alt right is SHOCKED to find MRAs in their MR movement.
Remember when those broscists were seeing an immense opportunity in the supposedly upcoming economic collapse for them “alphas” to take back the reigns of society? “The men in various neighborhoods and families will bond together to ration out food, water, and protection.”
(As summed up in one of my favorite WHTM posts ever: http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/12/15/return-of-kings-writer-really-looking-forward-to-economic-collapse-under-trump/)
Well now, we have yet another brilliant example of how aggressive, self-centered “alphas” really do not tend to bond and collaborate well. That is, if everything else they undertake wasn’t proof enough.
In case of economic collapse, there’s no doubt in my mind that they’d be fighting for a throne made of dried shit while decent men and women would be, in fact, the ones working hard (and succeeding) to make everyday life tolerable.
@Vivien: I’ve seen a term used for guys who can’t wait for the apocalypse to start: “disasterbater”. 😄
Honestly, Trump’s entire… whatever the fuck you want to call it collapsing on and devouring each other is probably the best case scenario right now.
What a dumpster fire. We are amused.
This could totally be filmed for a HBO show.
Game of Trump.
Or maybe not.
Iago from Othello put it like such, not all men can be masters and not all masters can be followed.
Evidently these idiots all think they’re going to be masters like god himself promised it to them and had a lawyer finalize the paper work.
I guess one advantage we have over them is their disgusting overconfidence and chronic thin skinned nature.
@Cat Mara: I will surely borrow it!
Kind of OT but anyone seen this?
@dreemr
Yeah… that’s Anglin’s current obsession. He wants an open carry march.
Aka a pogrom.
“I’m the biggest name!”
“No I am!”
“No, me!”
“No, ME!”
Everyone else: “Who are any of these assclowns?”
Ugh. I admit I only really noticed because I knew a few people who used to live in Whitefish.
Just ugh.
Th nastiness is just so much. I can’t even take pleasure In a schadenfreude sorta way because the nastiness is just so much.
I don’t know if anyone heard John Kerry’s speech today about Israel. Well Trump has posted his Twitter response. Basically it’s unequivocal support for Israel.
Wonder how the alt-right lot are going to take that.
Hard to say. The thing is, support for Israel don’t prevent antisemitism, even if the antisemites group in favor of Israel are more often religious nuts than the blend of racism and entitlement that compose thoses fascists bozos.
That “Baked Alaska” moron looks like an extra for Duck Dynasty- figures.
I hope the venue for their little shit-show is open carry.
Masque of the MRA Death, haha
@Alan & Ohlmann
Turns out some prominent european far-right figures have been giving speeches in Israel. They’re besties with Netanyahu now, apparently. It’s not that surprising since he’s a far-right leader – crank magnetism does wonders, I guess.
Although I seem to recall a certain nazi of yore who had a similar attitude.
I too am pretty thrilled that the alt-right are devouring their own.
OTOH, the real problem is that these individuals will always (absent a complete change of heart) have the potential to be really dangerous. That’s because they believe in rights only for themselves.
Yes, the alt-right and Trump are emboldening them. But even if both of those fail, other developments — whether in the political climate or in their own personal lives — could embolden them all over again.
My late brother was full of hatred and happy to follow whatever man stoked that hatred. He didn’t follow groups but in his own way followed individuals that he knew — his drinking buddies. Booze encouraged a lot of this (as AA puts it) “stinkin’ thinkin’.”
My mother allowed my brother to return to her home and live with her after each new adventure failed. He lived with her for the last 20 years of his life. And it turned out that he just couldn’t survive without her. He died less than 2 years after our mother died.
My brother of course had a responsibility to take care of himself and not burden other people with the care of a grown man.
But my father, IMO, bears more responsibility for the way my brother turned out. My brother started school in 1951. It turned out that he had ADHD. But no one knew about ADHD then, and so he just failed and failed and failed again.
Worse — much worse — is the fact that my father yelled at him all the time for his disability.
My own opinion is that my father thought it made him (my father) look good by comparison, so he emphasized my brother’s disability continually.
That might be hard to believe because it’s seriously crappy fathering, but it is my opinion.
I believe that even though my brother failed to finish his last year of high school, he could have learned something in order to support himself. But my father’s putdowns made him lose all confidence.
And so my brother turned to hatred to give his life meaning. He never joined a group, but he certainly had a lot of hatred roiling around in him. Whenever I was in his line of vision, that hatred was directed at me.
It might be too late for these grownup haters. That said, I hope that our educational system is taking note of these alt-righters and will redouble their efforts to make sure that every student graduates high school, can support himself or herself, and has a thorough education in the history and use of propaganda, so as to be inoculated from it.
It’s common for anti-Semites to love (the idea of) Israel, because many of them are evangelicals who see a strong Israel as a requirement for the end times. They don’t think Jews are going to heaven or anything, it’s just that their eschatology predicts a strong and independent Israel before the Second Coming. People in this position are anti- anything that makes Israel even the tiniest bit less dominant in the region.
One might think that they’d just kind of trust God to handle that side of things, but one would be wrong! Since there is a significant overlap between white supremacists and white evangelicals, it should surprise no one if there are few peeps about Trump’s support for Israel doing illegal shit.
Burning books? How apt.
Fuck, Kat, I’m so sorry. Sorry for all parties, pretty much (except your dad). One of my best-beloveds has ADHD, and when they’re finding things hard (which is often) I sometimes think that they could so very very easily have been made to feel they failed so hard at everything – they really struggle with anything you need words for. So I can only imagine how horrendous that must have been for your brother, and I’m sorry about the way he went – and about how hard it was on you.