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submitted by exdeath1987
This has become more obvious the more that I've played the game. As an example you can see for yourself, start a normal single player custom game as Leon and then as Galicia.
What you'll find is that if you declare war on Galicia, even in the first month or so, their army will far outnumber yours as Leon. Two to one in troop numbers, especially if they have an alliance with Gwennyd (which is out of diplomatic range/impossible to ally with if you actually play as Galicia, by the way.) Even if they don't have an alliance, they have higher numbers than you. They even have higher numbers than you if Portuscale rebels and you declare war then - higher numbers when they only have four counties? Really? Hmmm....
If you then play as Galicia, Leon will attack you within the first month or two, with a 4-5k troop stack (no alliances necessary.) The best you can muster as Leon in the first month is 2.5k. The best you'll muster as Galicia is about 2k - Leon totally wipes the floor with you and vassalizes you.
If Paradox wants to make extremely difficult games, fine. But I want a fucking ticker option to make sure that the AI is playing by the same rules and can't just conjure up double the troop numbers I could from the same situation. If I can't get a ticker option for that, then I guess I have to assume playing this game on 'ironman' is more or less a joke. I have to believe that using console commands to cheat myself a mercenary army is the way I'm 'supposed' to play the game - since everyone else seems to be able to conjure up thousands of troops out of nothing.
For a really great example of AI cheatery, I was doing a Leon run (cheating this time) and I had taken over about half of Espania. I was attacked by a muslim Jihad that resulted in 15k troop stacks being sent my way about every month, for about 5 years straight. This is only about 50 years after a no-dlc game start from the earliest available period.
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[–]homemadepandashitty heir 11 points12 points13 points  (2 children)
AI never cheats in my experience. You are mistaken. Maybe AI hired mercenary. Check his levy composition.
[–]Throwaway790113 8 points9 points10 points  (7 children)
Your marshal score heavily affects your levy cap. And each NPC's marshal score heavily affects their levy cap. So you can't just compare levies raiseable by different characters in different games.
[–]homemadepandashitty heir 5 points6 points7 points  (4 children)
Check AI's holding. Personal demesne provide more troops. So AI may have revoked some title before attacking you. Making it muster more troops. His levy composition may differ. AI aren't supposed to cheat and if they have, it's a bug. Not a feature.
[–]exdeath1987[S] -9 points-8 points-7 points  (3 children)
Look, go perform the experiment I wrote yourself. It's not a difficult thing to do.
I understand there's a cult-like following for this game, but if you don't want to experiment with it, you really have no place in saying the AI isn't cheating. What I wrote in my post is an easy experiment - play as a bordering nation, start a war with a similarly sized nation right at the start of the game. Check troop numbers, check alliances. Now play as the other ruler, do the same thing. You'll quickly find out that there's no way you can match their troop numbers, or get the same alliances.
The AI is stacked against players, there's no question about it. I'm sure plenty of others have seen the same thing.
[–]GoodOcycakNORMANS GET OUT REEEEEEEEE 12 points13 points14 points  (0 children)
Now as someone who has experience in CK2, I would like to teach you some basic things about levy numbers( how to make them larger):
  • More marshal - more levies, remember that your stats aren't always the same!
  • Better relations with vassals - more levies.
Relations with vassals are more complex one. Here is what may happened:
  • vassals get bonus opinion with his liege, if he defends against foreigners, infidels.
  • same thing if he defends vassal's titles, all of these give your enemy bonus after war has been declared.
but he may also just improve relations with vassal, by giving land, money or something else.
[–]homemadepandashitty heir 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
And you think me, 1100 hours playing this game, been many paradox community, never found that out becausr i was ignorant. That made me a little bit uneasy. I was so confident in this game's mechanism
[–]homemadepandashitty heir 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
OK. I'll experiment it. But I bet a buck you are mistaken. We became like cult because what you said didn't make sense to our common belief. Challenge to common belief is always doubted. Understand that. I'll do the experiment as soon as i'm home.

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[–]homemadepandashitty heir 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
And why is 15k muslim army a cheat? Whole muslim world have more than that. Just check seljuk alone and he have like 30k. And all his vassals and others join jihad. That's never a cheat.
[–]XtraFalconThe Lord of the Decies 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
I was thinking that myself, 15K would be rather tame for a Jihad.
[–]NotAzakanAtAllᛚᚢᚴᛁ ᛉᛅᛏᛁ ᛉᛁ ᛏᚢ ᛁᛏ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Same here, I remember seeing 100k doom stacks, I was like "Can I also have them 15k piecemeal?"
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