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[–]Statistsarecancer 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (55子コメント)

There is a prevailing trend on the left that it is acceptable to be racist and sexist towards white males specifically. To be honest I'm worried about my physical safety. Once groups like BLM or SJWs and feminists get more power the first thing they're going to do is put policy in motion that hurts white males. There have also been many calls to violence against us.

By the time people realize what is happening it will already be too late. History is full of examples of groups of white people and white males being ostracized and segregated around the world but it is ignored across the board in liberal arts and education because it doesn't fit with the narrative.

[–]Calfurious 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

History is full of examples of groups of white people and white males being ostracized and segregated around the world

Can..you give me some examples of that? Outside of Zimbabwe, (and perhaps other African countries), I can't really think of any examples.

There is a prevailing trend on the left that it is acceptable to be racist and sexist towards white males specifically.

I always hate it when we do these broad generalizations. "The left" does this, "the right" does this. Because based one one's personal beliefs, perceptions, and experiences, these statements can range from being completely true to being completely false.

I prefer to criticize individuals, not entire groups. Criticizing individuals can lead to people knowing what to avoid, criticizing groups just results in people just refusing to communicate because they feel like they're being unfairly targeted.

Now on to what you just said, I think the issue is that there is a prevailing trend to discriminate against EVERYBODY. If you look at the data, hate crime has gone up for all groups in the United States, Blacks, Whites, Jews, Muslims, etc,.

People are just getting more hateful towards one another, and more people are starting to fall under the thinking that "we cannot negotiate with THOSE people anymore". It's awful, really.

You're worried about groups like BLM or SJWs? I'm worried about Alt-Right and the White Nationalist movement spreading across the Western World. I'm a Black male, and I'm worried about my own safety and the safety of my family as those groups continue to gain more power.

We need to realize that bigotry is wrong, period. We also need to realize that the political partisanship and the sheer lack of communication or ability to discuss issues we have in society in a constructive and meaningful way (that isn't just shitty memes or sarcastic jabs at one another), isn't helping anybody and that we're gradually destroying the unity of our society.

[–]thejenge 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Humans are very destructive creatures, you should be careful in allowing yourself to be included among them!

[–]Numericaly7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always hate it when we do these broad generalizations. "The left" does this, "the right" does this. Because based one one's personal beliefs, perceptions, and experiences, these statements can range from being completely true to being completely false.

But when we vote all out political choices are umbrella'd under one choice or the other.

[–]MsLesbofights 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (50子コメント)

There is a prevailing trend on the left that it is acceptable to be racist and sexist towards white males specifically.

Well theres a trend on the right that it is acceptable to be racist and sexist towards everything else

[–]pm_ur_screens 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (37子コメント)

Is that a justification you just made?

[–]MsLesbofights 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (36子コメント)

it's a blatant observation

[–]pm_ur_screens 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (35子コメント)

When someone sais " X is doing bad thing " and someone else responds with " well Y is doing equally bad thing " it tends to appear that you are just trying to justify X. The appropriate thing to do, if you actually oppose either behavior, would be to denounce the bad behavior and not just make redundant observations. Unless of course you had no interest in contributing anything meaningful to the conversation. In which case, go right ahead.

[–]MsLesbofights 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (33子コメント)

The appropriate thing to do, if you actually oppose either behavior, would be to denounce the bad behavior and not just make redundant observations

...Yeah so why isn't either side doing that?

[–]pm_ur_screens 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (29子コメント)

Why aren't you? Oh wait, I already know why.

[–]MsLesbofights 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (28子コメント)

You're saying I must denounce stuff but I can't point it out? You're retarded or just really petty

[–]pm_ur_screens 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Resorting to petty name calling really illuminates the depth of your argumentative capacity. To answer your question though, you can point out anything you want, but when you point it out in the way you did I reserve the right to call you out on being a hypocrite, which you are, by every meaning of the word. Good day m'lady.

[–]MsLesbofights 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (26子コメント)

Resorting to petty name calling really illuminates the depth of your argumentative capacity

No it just gives you a quick excuse to disregard everything i'm saying because for the sake of argument you'll pretend the word "retard" is petty and offensive while completely ignoring the context. Something SJW's are professionals at.

[–]thejenge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

whats with all the 'denouncing'? ie. removing the noun.... lol

[–]MsLesbofights 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

he literally just said denounce

[–]thejenge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just internalized it /.... lol

[–]CdaTwist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Feel free to show your sources showing white males on the right believe "it is acceptable to be racist and sexist towards everything else". Are you talking American white males? Chinese white males? How about Swedish white males?

[–]MsLesbofights 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

My source is every youtube comment section and every reddit thread pertaining to these issues. My point was pretty clear, but yours on the other hand i'm not quite sure what the chinese have to do with this

[–]CdaTwist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your point is clear, but it is also asinine and bigoted.

[–]thejenge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think alot of Chinese people have white skin. Especially in the colder climates?

[–]mista0sparkle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You seem to be getting called out a lot here. I think we can all agree that there is racism or general bigotry found on both the left and right ends of the political spectrum, everywhere. In fact, I'd say that even non political people can trend toward bigotry. I think it may be an ingrained side effect of tribal human nature, self-preservation combined with social inclinations.

That said, I think it's important that we all acknowledge that the left are using white male privilege simply as an attack on the right to get out of developing well reasoned arguments to support their political aspirations.

[–]MsLesbofights 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

How do you define called out exactly?

[–]mista0sparkle 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Some people below seem to be taking umbrage to the fact that you're deflecting the concern of racism and sexism of the left being heavily prevalent in today's politics.

[–]MsLesbofights 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How was my comment deflection by simply pointing out the exact same behavior in the "right"? What are you even saying i'm deflecting exactly?

[–]mista0sparkle 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm saying that that's what was suggested by others.

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[–]thejenge 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is an excellent video and argument, but JP goes too far with the post-modern critique.

Humans cant do away with any/all political ideas that have revolutionary content - and says nothing about any comparable content of other revolutions. For instance, look at the destruction originating from pluralities of the 'constant' (industrial/scientific/communication) revolution.

[–]MsLesbofights 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Aren't you saying the same thing he was?

[–]thejenge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

My point was that JP dialed in this critique as a post-modern critique and he turned it 'up to 11'.

By saying a critique is 'post-modern to 11' means JP has a mastery of the visceral 'Deconstruction of Womens Studies' that he presents here. Deconstruction means fragmenting things for the purpose of learning, but not only for the sake of learning? In that sense JP is flawless, and he is showing what the apex prismatic of those very same post-modern education values: pursuing merciless critique of all things, until they cant be divided no more.

[–]MsLesbofights 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm sure there's a simpler way of saying that

[–]thejenge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

JP may break things down into atoms, but he hasn't split this atom yet. One could cut out the audio when he says 'Women's Studies' and replace it with anything - and the critique would still be just as valid and true!

How the hell am I supposed to say that in a shorter way!... lol

[–]phish95[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

JP was a professor at harvard. You're not smarter than him.

[–]clintonbro 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Using jargon is so lame, I understood you but only just, you should've just said that not all revolutions are bad.

Also he didn't argue against all revolutionary content he argued against women's studies because it's ideology is Marxist which had resulted in many disastrous governments during the 20th century

[–]thejenge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But at what point does 'a shout out to Marx' become like a 'shout out' to the Wu-tang Clan? Or like Hitler with his Aryan fabrications?

[–]clintonbro 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should always fear the Wu-tang clan and people that espouse Aryanism, so I guess 'a shout out to Marx' is almost always like them

[–]MsLesbofights 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

in my amateur assessment he appears to go off the rails with presumptuous thinking. His comment about what they are teaching is interesting tho

[–]foll-trood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

presumptuous thinking

what exactly do you mean by that? I mean of what he said.

[–]MsLesbofights 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

coming to his own wild conclusions based on his personal fears and doubts

[–]foll-trood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

yeah, but what he said, precisely, if you could be more specific, I'd try to clear it up, because I don't think he's making a lot of presumptions.

I've been watching his videos since this came out, and I don't think he's presumptious, and his "fears and doubts" are not personal at all. Well they are, his position at the University is in jeopardy, because he's refusing to let people tell him how to talk. But it's not far fetched to see the bigger issue here, because it's about human rights and freedom of speech. And I think he has a big point on how the fear of this led to how Trump got elected, and it explains why he not only could get away with saying what he wanted, true or not, but actually got elected partly because of that.

It's a little misleading to just watch this clip, you should watch the whole interview. Actually I can recommend all of his videos on his channel. I know it's a lot, but I found it very easy to get into, he's got some profound understanding about a wide range of topics. Really, even if you disagree, you'll learn a lot

-e- This describes pretty well what he's doing and why. This was a year before all this started btw. Arguably claiming that the word "flipchart" is racist is way more ridicilous than the controversy about pronouns, but in principle it's the same

[–]sosuhme 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

His chatter about Marxism is most certainly assumptive.

I am not a Marxist, but simply saying that because many, many people died that it must have actually been Marxism is a terrible argument. And that he assumes to know what actual Marxists believe with the whole "if I were a dictator" schpiel is silly, or at very least simply his opinionated perspective.

I mean, fundamentally, Marxism has no ruling class. So, there's that. Anyone who says the USSR had a pure form of communism is as wrong as anyone someone saying the US has a pure form of capitalism.

He's right that many "socialists" are merely people who think they could do it right if they were in charge, but that's far from every self-ascribing socialist out there.

The way he lumps all "women's studies people" into a single category shows a level of personal disdain that brings into question his objectivity on the entire subject. He may be right about certain things, but he definitely has an agenda.

[–]seshfan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually he's getting flak because he made a huge stink about how he wasn't going to respect trans people's pronouns because it was just tooooo hardddd and he rightfully got called out for that.

[–]foll-trood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You completely missed his point, he absolutely does respect trans people's pronouns (here's evidence) what he does not respect are the made up ones, or rather he's against putting not using them in the same category as hate speech.

[–]Preech 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Anyone recognize the guest as the professor who was hounded by SJWs for speaking his opinion about transgender terminology I think? That was a wild video to see, literally this guy versus a bunch of entitled and irrational college students. Guy kept his cool though through all of it.

[–]seshfan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He literally bragged about how he wouldn't respect people's pronouns, so yeah, people called him out for that.

[–]4J5533T6SZ9 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He 'bragged' that he wouldn't give in to having other people police his language, you mean.

[–]brabbly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Link ?

[–]pm_ur_screens 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Everyone, on both sides, needs to just shut the fuck up and be kind to one another.

[–]sheldonalpha5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No audio :/