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[–]188Will88 306 ポイント307 ポイント  (60子コメント)

What sort of man takes a woman back who has indicated she wants to leave him? Why fight for the affection of a bitch who has disrespected you? Life goes forwards, not backwards. If any bitch gives you the breakup line laugh at her and show her the door! Next those bitches and never look back. When she contacts you again, fuck her if you want to but never give her comfort or affection ever again, she is beneath you and only for sex forever more.

[–]vagbutters 117 ポイント118 ポイント  (44子コメント)

Why fight for the affection of a bitch who has disrespected you?

Because weak overweight or scrawny men get a taste of what being with a woman is like, and want to cling as tightly to the same pussy as they can. This is why they cling to the institution of marriage. This is why they spend their hard-earned money on a wedding ring. This is why they put up with her constant nagging, gross sexual past, and her lack of domestic skills.

Don't be a beta bitch- be a man.

[–]Schizotypal88 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can confirm, was exactly this and kept taking back the same dumb slut because for some reason I thought itd be the last pussy ever. Finally got tired of her shit, worked out and made myself happy, got pussy and realized how much of a little bitch i was being.

[–]raisins3142 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Confirmed. I was scrawny and a thirsty bitch for years.

If you are skinny please eat and lift weights. It will improve your life dramatically.

[–]AlwaysFlank 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Any specific recommendations from your personal experience? I've read the sidebar. I'm getting stronger but not gaining weight

[–]raisins3142 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eat a ton of protein (milk, eggs, steak, etc) and drink protein supplements. Start increasing your calories overall until you gain weight. Do not be afraid of fats and carbs. Look online for bulking diets.

[–]188Will88 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (32子コメント)

I agree with everything you have said but there is one thing you mentioned that we all still have to deal with, no matter how alpha you are..... her gross sexual past. I have never met an attractive women who did not have a gross sexual past. I still struggle with that shit, even really great girls who treat me like a king have fucking disgusting shit they have done with other men. I always try and make sure I take her to a place or get her to perform an act on me she has not done before, but even that is hard these days. Bitches have done it all before. Now I am fairly happy if she is under 50 guys and let's me fuck her ass whenever I want. They all have gross past once you are over 21.

[–]JFMX1996 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Fuck, this makes me really bummed out. I'm a 20 year old and have already had that in mind, it's pretty rare to find a girl who actually isn't a passed around whore now. Even if they say they're a virgin or have only had one guy, I get even more skeptical now.

[–]askmrcia 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It gets worse because some women actually won't sleep with a guy. But they will give him blow jobs because that doesn't count as sex in their opinion.

I had a few women that game me blow jobs but refused to have inter course with me.

Perfect example. I met this half white half philipino girl who was in med school from Alaska. Both of her parents had a lot of money and they traveled all over the world.

On paper it seem she came across as wife material and jsut by her vibe I can tell she really didn't party too much because she didn't have time.

Well on our second date, she gave me a blow job in a school parking lot outside my house. She didn't want to go in my house because I had a cookout going on. But damn, people could see us. Now it was good, but at the same time I lost soooooooooo much respect for her. That was trashy. Then she had the nerve to tell me she never gave a blow job before.

Ughhhh

So yea, they may not actually sleep around, but they will blow tons of guys.

[–]p3n1x -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can put guys in orbit with blow jobs. Save the nuclear pink for when they really need it. Raises their vagina's value. Smart move.

But damn, people could see us.

She probably knew that and it is probable that some other male was meant to see it.

But damn ...... That was trashy.

Man the fuck up. Do you really care that much what others think?

but they will blow tons of guys.

Fucking fantastic, whats her number?

[–]sunderfrost 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You would be amazed at how many are on online dating. Usually churchy too.

I mean fuck, I dated one for almost 3 years, and somehow kept ending up on dates with virgins till marriage sorts.

[–]grewapair 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not that there are that many, it's that everyone keeps tossing them back. They will also take almost any guy. So if 50 out of 5,000 are that way, you'll meet all 50.

[–]p3n1x -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

it's pretty rare to find a girl who actually isn't a passed around whore now

I still don't understand why this is a problem? Unless you are trying to get into some kind of specific LTR / Marriage.

Enjoy their search for sperm.

[–]angryguy4444 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

because sluts are disguting

one of the things men are the most attracted to in a woman is purity/innocence

[–]PeanutFlavor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Aaaand good luck with that these days. You aren't gonna find a chick anywhere NEAR chaste above the age of 17. It doesn't exist anymore. Even if she hasn't had sex yet, you can damn well be sure that she's manipulative as fuck and uses that shit to hold onto as many orbiters as possible.

[–]angryguy4444 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't say that's the only thing I was looking for.

It's just a fact that sluts are disgusting and that men prefer pure women.

[–]hypebeasts101 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Non sluts>Sluts, completely agree

[–]p3n1x 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

And weak pussified men are disgusting.

Women behave the way they are told to.

one of the things men are the most attracted to in a woman is purity/innocence

For Disneyland faggots.

Little miss purity isn't going to help build an empire.

But thanks for the down vote and childish blue pill explanation.

[–]angryguy4444 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well, I prefer a pure and virtuous woman to a slut and that's the same for most men.

I don't get your point about building an empire. Neither do I get your insults.

[–]p3n1x 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

that's the same for most men.

Per the numbers, aren't the majority of men beta and blue pill?

Having mental fits over a woman to put yourself in a false sense of superiority is weak, not Alpha at all. (slut shaming is for feminists)

I don't get your point about building an empire.

Use women to get more women to use women to get more women.

Neither do I get your insults.

Guys with the "i want a virtuous woman" are being very Disney/ beta / purple at best. You are simply bitching that you aren't the first dick in and come off like you are entitled to do so.

Maybe I'm misunderstand, I asked for an explanation, but only got a down vote and bitchy response.

Get more Alpha

[–]angryguy4444 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Listen.

Sluts can't pair bond.

Sluts are used-up girls.

I don't like sluts, because slutting around is disgusting. I don't care about being the first dick or not, but when I see a woman who has the thousand cock stare, who fucked so many guys that her vagina became lose, I feel disgust. Maybe it's because she acts like an animal, on impulse of her desires. That only shows for me a low class human being.

I like my women to be polite, shy and submissive instead of entitled sluts who drinks more sperm and alcohol than they drink water. Nobody like sluts. Being a slut is disgusting.

Anyway, I'm going to stop answering you. So post one last response and be assured that I won't answer you, which will make you feel so alpha.

And being a virtuous woman is not a disney blue pill thing. That's how women used to behave before feminism. With respect and obedience. They used to try to control their impulses because they would lose so much financially and socially if they didn't. Men used to search for virtue and wisdom too. Just read the ancient philosphers you will see what I'm talking about. It was about becoming a good man and remaining a good woman. Nowadays, girls suck dicks for whatever reasons (bored, wanted to forget a guy, for fun, because drunk/whatever), which is disgusting.

[–]p3n1x 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

get her to perform an act on me she has not done before,

You want a girls first terrible sloppy BJ?

[–]kraken9911 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (15子コメント)

I don't know why it's an issue? I've fucked a lot in my life as well. It's only fair she's had hers too. I also don't buy into the Hollywood fantasy of finding some innocent angel of a woman to fall into my arms happily ever after.

[–]plutorising92 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Because the more number of partners a woman has, the less her capability to pair bond successfully. Add baggage to that as well. That's why men instinctively want virgins or women who are not that experienced. Equalism is bullshit. The sexes aren't meant to be equal, they're meant to be complimentary.

[–]Wokiip 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Care to elaborate more what you mean with "complimentary"? I agree with you that equalism is bullshit but complimentary what? It doesnt click to me yet.

[–]plutorising92 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Both the genders are meant to provide what the other lacks in a relationship. If a man is rational and masculine, the woman is emotional and feminine. He brings his wisdom, logic, direction to the table.. she brings care, nurturing, and an ability to enjoy the experience emotionally.

Basically I think the woman looks to the man for guidance in everything, and she can then make sure that both of them enjoy the unfolding experiences.

Women need a rational, solid, decisive man in their lives who can lead them.. in every fucking thing. They'll talk and talk and talk, exploring every option endlessly, until in steps somebody who decides something for them. Girls absolutely hate making decisions and applying logic to anything(and yes they've told me that).. just the way we hate dilly dallying and a lack of direction. Until this polarity is present, the interaction becomes boring.

Women who've slept with too many men do not bring this to the table.. or if they even do, it doesn't last. She needs that emotional bond with a man to truly do good stuff for him over a period of time.. one which the aforementioned women won't have. They simply move on because its easy for them to get laid.

[–]p3n1x 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

They simply move on because its easy for them to get laid.

So what?

This is The Red Pill sub

A lot of these responses are coming off as Unicorn discourse.

If you want women with less partners, then strengthen the men, not the woman.

If a man is rational and masculine, the woman is emotional and feminine. He brings his wisdom, logic, direction to the table

This is a big fucking "if" in todays world.

You can't behave like a BP cunt and expect HB9 with a low fuck count.

[–]zyzzguido55 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dudes here don't understand this. Part of being alpha is not giving a fuck about her body count, to an extent. She's always free to go, but she won't, no matter what if you do the right things. And if she's sexy and doesn't cheat idc

Why care about hers, she WILL stay and bond with you if you're a fucking man. And always have options open. Watch you not give a shit as soon as you have plan B and C ready. In turn she will feel this subconsciously and cling to you even more.

When you swallow the pill, keep in mind the DGAF attitude. You enjoy her company, but she's always free to leave because you have pussy on the dial.

[–]p3n1x 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every time i here a guy say "gross" , I know the Disneyland circle-jerk is on the way.

Shrek is fantasy.

[–]Battle-Scars 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Her feminism compliments your masculinity.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If one spells "complementary" properly, one could look it up in a dictionary.

[–]interestedplayer 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Life isn't fair and I don't give a shot about being fair.

Women who have had tons of guys are disgusting and that is based on biology.

Men who have had tons of girls are successful.

That's biology and that's life, get your feminist fairness out of here.

[–]p3n1x 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Feminist fairness" will go away when Men find their balls and start acting like men again.

If you like all the BP men out there and consider it "less competition" cool, but realize the high fuck count and feminism come along with that.

[–]newgrounds 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I gotta disagree man. I had one girl and we were of the same mind until she broke it off. I am fit, I work for one of the best and hardest to get into companies, I went to a top ten University in the US, I come from a good family, I hooked up with chicks during my relationship and fucked several after.

Still, 1.5 years later I am chasing her ghost in my head.

[–]Crusader51st 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there is those few exceptions.

[–]vagbutters 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep fucking other women, then. You clearly haven't banged women as hot as your ex, if you're still fantasizing about her. For your own sake, I hope you're not banging landwhales or ugly girls.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One thing that holds you captive is the misconception that the two of you were "of the same mind".

[–]thechugganautbitch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not always thirst. I've seen high SMV guys turn into clingy emotional wrecks when a girl (sometimes lower SMV) breaks up with them. Guys who could go out and get laid no problem, with girls more attractive than their LTR, but continue doing beta shit to get the girl they "love" back.

I think since lots of men are raised with blue pill propaganda, they truly want a girl who will love them unconditionally. When the red pill reality shatters their blue pill illusions, they either learn from it or end up acting pathetic trying to maintain the fantasy.

[–]deville05 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This assumes that the guy is on top of his game, has his shit sorted, passes shit test and is over all doing his manly duties. But a lot of the time in these movies the woman is good woman who enriches the guy's life with her presence and vibe and the guy has been fucking up to the point that she cant be with him. If that is the case in your life then you have to man up and accept it, get your shit together and get her back. You can have your ego and let her go and not take her back too if you think not having her won't affect your life negatively. But you still need to accept your faults and make things right for you.

What I dont like about many movies is when this kind of scenario isn't shown and the man is fighting for a ho/trainwreck/chick with issues/chick that doesn't contribute anything etc all because of the misguided love you feel and the emotional responses of 'I need her because I can't live without her'. You can and you will. Basically it comes down to a rational vs emotional decision for me atleast. And I judge these kinds of movies according to that. Even my heart swells up when I see love between two characters who do good for each other and better each other. Everybody wants and needs love. We just have trouble recognising constructive love from destructive love

[–]thefisherman1964 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my blue pill days, I thought that I could win my ex-girlfriend back after losing her. The truth was that after we broke up, she was just spinning me as a plate and had no real intention of fixing our relationship. She just wanted sex from me, and it destroyed me inside. Eventually she got to the point where she didn't even want to have sex with me anymore and just wanted to be "friends" and I couldn't take it anymore, so I hard nexted her to avoid the pain of a woman that used to be emotionally attached to me who now wanted nothing more than my dick to get her off.

I guess even in my blue pill days I had some natural red pill intuitions. Like a woman, I just wanted commitment instead of being "used" as her personal dildo. And that's what turned her off to me, because I was acting like a woman (which she supposedly should have been attracted to because she's bisexual....AWALT.) Thank God I eventually found the Red Pill.

[–]anondeadbeef 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hatefucking an exgirlfriend feels really good.

[–]Pada_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Playing Devil`s advocate : maybe he haven't found a girl as good/awesome as her.

But yeah he should search more, not return .Best allegory I seen is that of the trashcan on rational male

[–]swaglordobama 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Largely due to emotional attachment. Coolidge Effect or w/e. Chemicals in our brains cloud rational thinking. If you eject out of every relationship at the first sign trouble you are unlikely to have many fulfilling relationships. That shit takes work.

Maybe the girl was attracted to you initially because you acted like a man, but you became pussified and she got bored. It's your fault if you get complacent and stop taking on the role of the man in the relationship.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Coolidge Effect or w/e.

The Coolidge Effect is if you have an easier time getting a boner if you have a new woman on your lap. I.e. the opposite.

[–]swaglordobama 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more about how different chemicals affect our mood and feelings towards our partner at different points in the relationship. There is a honeymoon phase, which lasts a few months, then a "settle down" phase. Most men get complacent after the honeymoon phase, which causes women to get bored and lose interest.

[–]188Will88 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

We are not talking about ejecting at first sign of trouble, we are talking about a woman who has already broken up with you. Never beg, never go back.

[–]swaglordobama 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think it's good to reflect on why she broke up with you and why the relationship turned sour.

I know bagging on women is the go-to on this sub since there are so many butthurt guys, but, honestly, if a girl breaks up with you it's because you suck; you did something to make her lose interest in you.

If you're response is going to be "fuck dat bitch" then you won't learn much from the relationship because you will blame the girl instead of yourself, and you will probably repeat the same mistakes in future relationships.

To put it simply, since people here are so obsessed with alpha guys, girls don't break up with alpha men. If an alpha male loses his alpha status during the relationship, he is no longer an alpha, and she loses interest in him rather quickly. And no, simply looking the part does not make you an alpha male.

Self awareness and self assessment are key to personal growth. Always reflect and learn from your failures. Never blame other people. Never be butthurt.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't like making excuses for people, but it's not necessarily the man's fault when a woman cheats or outright leaves him. You can be the best version of yourself but a shitty woman would toss all aside after a whiff of a higher status man.

[–]swaglordobama 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can usually tell if a girl is a bit of an emotional wreck before you enter a relationship with her.

a shitty woman would toss all aside after a whiff of a higher status man.

As opposed to what? A woman putting up with your emasculated bullshit? Watching you turn into a fucking pussy whipped bitchboy? She is doing you a favor by leaving, dude.

If you start to suck, she will eventually leave you, but it's not like she'll bail ASAP. She might cheat on you or behave in ways to make you hate her (giving you a lot of shit) in order to see how you react. If you don't have that bold, cut the shit, masculine attitude, if you succumb to her bullshit, you are done. She doesn't want you. You don't deserve her.

It's the same with you; if your girlfriend starts to get really fat and needy, you're going to want out of the relationship. It's not to say all fat chicks are awful; most of them have really cool personalities and some guys are into them. But generally speaking, if you start dating a physically attractive girl, you probably won't be able to get your dick hard if she turns into Jabba the fucking Hut.

Take responsibility. Complacency is death. Women are attracted to you because of your masculinity, your passion, and your drive to dominate all aspects of your life; she wants to be a passenger that grows alongside you on your journey. She wants to encourage you and watch you blossom into an awesome fucking dude.

Let's flip the script. Let's say you enter a relationship with a girl who has a tight, fertile body. Over time, she starts letting herself go. Maybe something tragic happens, maybe she gets too comfortable with you, maybe she gets depressed. She stops working out, stops eating healthy, and eventually her form starts to go. She gets self-conscious, her attitude changes, she gets more needy, clingy, jealous, etc. Out of this jealousy and neediness, she begins to emotionally abuse you in order to keep you in the relationship; she sabotages your friendships, your career, etc. Eventually you are repulsed by her. Should you stay or leave?

You go out, you meet some girl that you find really attractive, you hit it off. You cheat on your slug of a girlfriend. It feels natural, it feels so right. It's great to grip a tight body again, to thrust in a tight pussy again. Are you a bad person for acting on your desires?

Now imagine you are a beautiful girl, you enter a relationship with a guy who is really driven, passionate, and masculine. He is working hard on his career or business, trying to carve his name into the world. He doesn't put up with your bullshit, and is a source of grounding energy when your emotions are getting the better of you. He is commanding, leading, willing to take responsibility and make things happen. He creates fortune through hard work and persistence; it's how he got you. Years of going out, getting rejected, building up reference experiences, experiencing multitudes of partners, etc, all sharpened his game to the point where he could attract and keep a woman of your caliber. He has his eye on the endgame, but he knows that the journey to get there is long and full of adversity, and he loves the process. He is fearless and bold. He doesn't need you, and he could find another girl just like you if you leave him.

Eventually, his masculinity starts to fade, and with it goes your arousal towards him. Maybe he loses his purpose, gives into some vice, and he ceases to be that source of grounded, rational, masculine energy. Perhaps he gets blindsided by some tragic event and he doesn't know how to recover from it. Maybe he just gets too comfortable with you. Maybe he stops going to the gym, so he's not even physically attractive anymore. He starts get more dependent and needy. He adopts a scarcity mindset. He doesn't want to lose you. You lose interest. You stick around for a while out of comfort, but eventually it becomes unbearable. He's been reduced to another chump. You're no longer happy in the relationship. You want him to be a man, so you keep giving him bullshit hoping that he snaps out of it and puts you in your place; takes on the role of a man again. He won't do it. You get into a lot of fights. Do you stay or leave?

You go out with your friends, you meet a man who arouses you with his masculinity and personality. You don't resist his advances. You don't mention that you have a boyfriend. You find an excuse to fuck him. Is it your fault that your boyfriend has become a loser? Are you a bad person for pursuing your desires?

I guess what I'm saying is that life is too short to put up with people's bullshit. This goes both ways. If you are losing touch with your masculinity, women won't be aroused by you. If a woman starts to fatten up and lose her figure, you probably won't be aroused by her. Don't get mad, get better.

[–]Beerfarts69 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I had gold..but here, an upvote!

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What sort of man takes a woman back who has indicated she wants to leave him?

Scarcity mentality

[–]angryguy4444 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't even laugh at her.

"OK, bye" is enough

[–]1CaptainCringeworthy[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I completely agree with your comment. It is about moving on, not going back to the past and trying to salvage what is unsalvagable.

[–]raisins3142 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I've broken up with several women that were treating me like dog shit.

It is little comfort to know I was the one that pulled the trigger.

The second they start treating you bad they are breaking up with you in slow motion and open to other men.

[–]scrodzilla 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Same dude. Twice I have gotten a tearful "You never fought for me..." from them.

Why on earth would I fight for a woman who was treating me like garbage?

[–]raisins3142 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, the self absorption is unreal.

[–]The__Tren__Train 114 ポイント115 ポイント  (8子コメント)

then slam it shut

lol.. and show her that she mattered to you.

whatever happened to "oh ok....wellllll.. take care." ??

complete.

indifference.

[–]1CaptainCringeworthy[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was more symbolic than realistic, but ok.

[–]Sensei_Hensei 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read that as a metaphor. Like figuratively slamming the door.

[–]DMMDestroyer 92 ポイント93 ポイント  (6子コメント)

They never leave if they truly care in the first place. The moment they leave, they have already left a while ago. Never forget that last part.

[–]Libertarian-Party 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true. I had a girl break up with me and she told me she didn't like me anymore for a while and was trying to find "the right time."

Honestly my BP self hoped she was just being busy but it was clear looking back that she gave no fucks about me.

The worst part is I did exactly the BP example and asked her to go out with me again (she said yes) but dumped me a few months later.

[–]Returnofthemack3 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

this is really something people need to realize. Its been a long time coming lol, almost every time. Women will wait months and even years before they spring their bullshit

[–]rockymountainoysters 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's gotta line up that branch swing first, because being alone for 10 seconds is a fate worse than death.

[–]Op2mus 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This. If a girl breaks up with you she most likely is at least emotionally invested in another man, if not physically. I know it's much easier said than done but the only option in this scenario is a hard next. No contact. Most women love the idea of stringing their ex along, not only for attention/validation but almost like an insurance plan in case their new Chad pumps and dumps them.

[–]chance01 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The concept of the NEXT does not get enough attention, imo. It is one of the best demonstrations of high SMV and one of the most powerful weapons a man can utilize and exercise in his dealings with women.

[–]1CaptainCringeworthy[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is so true. They have definitely thought it out beforehand.

[–]JFMX1996 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah, it's pathetic. I remember my first real heart-break when I was blue pill as fuck last year, right around this time of the year. Fall semester of 2015 around mid December a girl broke up with me and I got all hung up and sad about it, continued to text her and call her and in the end pushed her even farther away by trying to win her back. I was such a fucking beta-male.

In reality, I should've been a little less caring about it and more happy. The problem was this scarcity mentality. The girl was the first girl I'd met that liked fitness, had ambitions in college, and liked reading and played guitar.

I had this idea that girls like that were super rare and hard to come by and I'd never see a girl like that again.

Fast forward to a full year of self-improvement, reading, picking up an instrument, getting started on a new language, and getting even more fucking beastly in the gym and with my style and image.

I look back and had the same thing happened now I'd be like, "Cool. See ya."

There's tons of cool girls out there to relate to. 7.5 billion people in the world, a little over half of them are women. Guitar is like the most fucking commonly played instrument, fitness girls are on an ever growing increase, and more crowds are getting into hiking and outdoors.

You don't need to seek your happiness in others. Happiness should come from within. Another girl isn't going to fill that empty void you feel in your heart.

When you realize this and develop an abundance mentality, study the fucking sidebar goddammit, and really work on yourself, you realize that you no longer get hung up on girls and the rest of your life improves dramatically as you shake off these stupid delusions Hollywood brings to you.

The truth will set you free.

[–]Sensei_Hensei 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While you were constantly texting her and trying to get her back she was showing her friends and whatever guy she was fucking at the time and laughing at you. Never boost a woman’s ego like that again.

[–]slay_it_forward 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This 1000x sidebar this....SIDEBAR

[–]Returnofthemack3 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

honestly, attractive girls with all of those interests are still pretty rare lol. Not trying to shut you down, but that's what i've found.

[–]JFMX1996 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lmfao, fuck my life. Back to my depressed beta days. I puked up the red pill.

Haha, no really though, I feel that if you truly seek them out, you will find them. Either that or you can find a girl who likes guitar and is somewhat cute and then get her into fitness or the other stuff, possibly.

[–]Returnofthemack3 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah I mean dont get me wrong, women like that EXIST, but im' saying that it's rare to find someone hb7 and above that shares those hobbies. If you're willing to compromise a bit, it shouldn't be hard to nab one, but in my experience, finding a 9 with varied hobbies like that is rare as fuck. AT least past a lip service level

[–]JFMX1996 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. I agree. I think girls that high up on the scale get comfortable only having their looks to offer.

I'd honestly prefer a 7 with some intellect and hobbies than a 9 or 10 that has nothing to offer but her looks.

It's a bit unfortunate, but I think I'd be willing to compromise. The girl I was hung up on I now realize wasn't that high up on the scale, a 6 or 7 at best but it was just because she took really good care of herself, didn't cake her face up, and worked out a lot and built a pretty kicking body and had hobbies and depth that really got me and lead to me pedestalizing her.

[–]1CaptainCringeworthy[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congratulations and best of luck to you!

[–]Denver_Luv3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hollywood loves your inferiority complex, too, and most movies / TV shows are totally out of touch with how sex, romance, and attraction work IRL.

[–]Op2mus -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aren't most girls who play guitar feminazi blue haired hipsters? Maybe that's just my incorrect presumption. The more I think about it, I've been playing for 20 years and I can't think of a single girl off the top of my head that I've met who plays guitar anyways.

[–]uhhthelonious 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Abundance of food, abundance of information, abundance of time."

I have heard many a beta male voice their concern about having difficulty developing abundance mentality. Often times they are STILL focused on the women being the source of abundance. What I love about this post is your emphasis on the multiplicity of abundance in this modern life, which is TRUE abundance mentality! Awesome red pill understanding!

[–]Toussant 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except time. Sometimes you have to slow down to go faster/less is more but life is short.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Soon you will wake up and realize you're 50. What do you have spent your time on?

[–]1CaptainCringeworthy[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We live in a world of abundance and that must be embraced and recognized.

[–]Agent1407 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

One exercise that I do religiously, every day, is to imagine my wife breaking up with me and leaving, and being totally fine with it. Luckily, after I managed to get trp in my core, I noticed that I am always fine, and when I do this exercise my first reaction is to laugh and let her go. And the best part is that she knows that I would do exactly that and she never do this kind of "I could break up with you" shit tests.

[–]blasted_biscuits 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In stoicism this is called "negative visualization" and it is a powerful tool that should be practiced in all areas of your life.

[–]1CaptainCringeworthy[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a powerful exercise. Never thought of that but good for you.

[–]lolligagger3000 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wish I knew this in the past. Damn, I spent way too much time whinning for lost causes

[–]Cunt_Robber 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We live in a world of abundance. Abundance of food, abundance of information, abundance of time. And most importantly: abundance of women.

Well fucking said! Abundance mentality and time are two important things men these days could always use more of. They both always seem to drain so easily, both at the hand of the same culprit: women.

you should be building yourself up for a new challenge, a new quest, a new woman.

You only grow when you challenge yourself! Learn how to organize time wisely to be able to work on improving yourself in as many ways as possible. Set small goals. All that time is potential!

[–]THEDICKDEALER 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I learned that the hard way.

[–]sunderfrost 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of the rules I live by.

We're both adults. You make your bed, you sleep in it. There's no going back on decisions like that.

Similar to my approach on cheating. " Shame on me, you're a whore, next!"

[–]THEDICKDEALER 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I learned that the hard way.

[–]SwiperNoSmokey 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

such a hard lesson you went through it twice :'( In all seriousness, I think that's when we started seeing past the blue pill facade.

[–]Nodeal_reddit 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I so wish I could go tell this to my 16yo self.

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This goes both ways. Know when to let shit go if she's being a time and energy drain, with little to no reciprocity on her end.

Have the balls to walk away and start over at any moment, or you're not a free man.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've seen it before in the movies: the boy loses the girl, then musters up the courage to fight for her, giving her some profound speech about how much she means to him, making her break down in tears and fall into his arms.

I still cringe thinking about my beta days.

I used to believe this shit 100%. I would think thats how it worked in real life.

The difference for me is that I never "lost" the girl to begin with, as I never had her in the first place. I would fight for her and tell her how much she meant to me before we were ever an item. Yeah, I was that pathetic.

It never played out like it did in my mind, as I thought it would be just like the movies and TV shows where a guy fights for a woman and spills his emotions and guts over her and she runs into his arms. Instead, they would get creeped out and ghost me. And instead of realizing what I did didn't work, I'd beat myself up wondering where things went wrong, and vow to double down fight even harder for the next woman the next time and be an even nicer guy.

If I never found TRP... who knows what depths of patheticness I'd be in today.

[–]tiknaRecovery101 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I always had a feeling deep inside that fighting to get your women back is insane. I got the rational proof of it once I swallowed the red pill. Now I know I was right all along but the society/friends/family etc were pushing me towards blue pill mindset.

[–]Sensei_Hensei 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think A lot of Red pill is like this for most. I've always thought some of the principles but never acted upon them.

[–]Herpnderp145 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She can fight for herself, no thank you.

[–]Pearlbuck 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Fight for her!" was the worst fucking advice I ever got in my life. It made me think that acting like a pussy was actually acting like a man. Great fucking post. Boys should be taught this in Kindergarden.

[–]BowlOfCandy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, life's not that serious. She breaks up with you? So be it, confused little darling that she is. She's only the most responsible teenager in the house, you really can't fault her for it.

Abundance mentality gives for a peaceful and commanding mental state - it's not a "defensive" tool. You don't need to "channel" abundance mentality so that you can ghost a girl, you just have it and you have control of your life.

If a girl leaves, then let her leave. She can come back if it suits you, be a king.

[–]neverendingplush 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, on no circumstances ever should you be bothered with a girl who didn't want you before. I had oneities with this chick, and went full retard, showering her with affection and what not. I found the redpill grew some balls, started lifting weights, she noticed and decided that she was attracted, I felt disgusted I internally I was still the same person, trust ripped and more self-respect.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSirGaetanDugas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

better to not fight for her and ignore her til she boomerangs back and then keep on plate status with no chance for promotion. ever.

[–]iamneptuno 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Abundance of food, abundance of information, abundance of time. And most importantly: abundance of women.

And even more importantly, the abundance of information that there are actually more males than females in the US.

[–]smokecheck1976 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Given the sad state if the average American male, this is less of a problem than you think. Subtract the homosexual men and the number equals up a little more. Subtract the men that are self-disqualified from relationships, and this is a very broad category, the morbidly obese, the guys playing video games in mom's basement, the guys who society has managed to convince are girls, other guys that are just so fucking far out there that women are actively repelled by them and the numbers look better.

Now look at the biggest group, the "nice guys". The ones that hold the door open, pay for everything. The guys that rush to the defense of the "poor, innocent woman". All the guys who have the effect of turning off a woman who might otherwise be interested and the odds tilt dramatically in favor of the guys who see reality for what it is.

[–]iamneptuno 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then don't forget to subtract the lesbians and landwhales, too, and the female population suddenly shrinks dramatically as well. For a male, the US means ridiculous competition for very few options.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now look at the biggest group, the "nice guys". The ones that hold the door open, pay for everything. The guys that rush to the defense of the "poor, innocent woman". All the guys who have the effect of turning off a woman who might otherwise be interested and the odds tilt dramatically in favor of the guys who see reality for what it is.

Don't be one of those nice guys and holy fuck it's easy. However you forgot the incarcerated men, that drops the number of men significantly. Shit, get buff, develop your game, and this is so fucking easy.

[–]Justathrowawayo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

As of the last census, the population in the USA is ~51% female.

[–]iamneptuno 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Indeed, I was wrong. Yet 51% still doesn't make abundance.

[–]Justathrowawayo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there is an abundance of women, they outnumber men

a man who does what he should be doing will have an abundance of women vying for his attention

[–]SeemedGood 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except that 51% of 375,000,000 = 187,500,000.

Lets say that only 20% of those are in a "targetable" socio-economic bracket for you = 37,500,000

And of those only 10% are in a "targetable" attractiveness bracket for you = 3,750,000

And of those only 5% would find you attractive = 187,500 women that you can successfully game. That's more than 10 a day for the next 50 years.

So assuming that you can only close on 10% of the women who are in your socio-economic zone, who are somewhat attractive to you, and whom are attracted to you, you could reasonably sleep with a different woman every day for the next 50 years.

That's not abundance?

[–]bomerr 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

When a woman breaks up with me

Why did she break up with you?

There are just so many women out there to date, it is a real shame when a man confines himself to one individual.

This is a toxic mentality. Yes there are a lot of women out there but those women are not all equal. Some are better than others. If you believe in pure abundance then you'll never believe that you'll never need to recognize your mistakes. You will always be able to blame the women for any problems and then move onto the next women.After 20yr or so of this you'll be stuck with a mediocre gf / wife / bad marriage or divorce

[–]redkick 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

While there's truth in your statement, the important point is that you're not going to fix these mistakes with the current woman. You've got to not make the mistake in the first place with the next one.

However, recognizing these mistakes is also important, that's true. That's all this subreddit is about after all.

[–]bomerr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201012/beautiful-people-really-are-more-intelligent

There is a correlation between looks and brains. On the extreme end you get ugly nerds but generally people 1-2 standard deviations above the mean are actually more attractive. If you goto schools such as Michigan or USC than you'll find a good number of very attractive and intelligent women.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

After she is paid off, divorce is wonderful. You should learn not to do that again after the first one. I'm nearly 50, sure as fuck not stuck with some mediocre cunt. Fucked over a hundred sluts in the last 30 years, despite being short, relatively un wealthy, rather thick like a gorilla, gray hair started at 26 and I dress like Johnny Bravo.

I've fucked more 20 somethings after 40 than I did in my 20s. Three ways, kinky shit, any hole I want. Hot college sluts, single moms, older girls willing to do anything to please a Real Man™. Spent 8 years each with two now ex wives, the second was great for a long time. She was chosen extremely carefully and still did the same thing girls do. Go stupid and leave for / cheat with a lesser man.

After a few years of the same girl, I was always looking at other younger girls, and the one I was with didn't measure up. I fuck them through their 20s and then some desperate fuck can have them at 30. Traded in on a newer model.

You're still sucking down the blue tabs, completely clueless that life can get better for us after 30, then again at 40, and from what my friends tell me, who aren't beta simp losers, it's even better after 50. Don't worry, you'll still be a loser stuck with the inevitable child support and alimony payment and unable to fuck girls half your age. You'll be safe from this horrible life of fucking lithe young sluts, plundering their holes for your amusement.

[–]2ex_addict_bro 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Gentlemen, I've been PMing with vengefully for some time this year and I actually did not quite believe his story. 50-yo fucking 20-somethings?

Then I started doing HIIT in the early morning and changed my training regimen in order to train harder (1-minute breaks between sets instead 2-minutes, with deload). I started doing things in order to get more discomfort. Suddenly, the pussy started flowing in such abundance, that I genuinely stopped giving a fuck. Guess what, this does not interfere at all.

So I see how venge's lifestyle can be achieved now.

Vengefully, we talk about end results. People don't know what do we do in order to have a life like this. People don't believe it is possible. And I actually don't mind. Less competition for me.

Average man is way, way, way below. Proverbial average man doesn't stand a chance with guys like us.

Newbies, it is your life and your choice. Don't lift, don't read, don't approach. Keep explaining to me how video games can be played in moderation and how good they are for your "video game alphas". Keep explaining text game and tinder foreplay. Keep creating buffers keeping you from cold approach.

Less competition for us. Happy New Year, motherfuckers.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've never given a shit if they don't believe me, I could post nudes since I take them of the best looking girls I fuck, but why bother? I get that shit from car guys, they can't believe how fast my cars are for the minimal cash I have in them. Big engines make it easy, but they've not done it so to them it's impossible. Skinny gym bros can't believe what I can lift, but big muscle makes that easy too.

Why can't they believe it? Because they're unwilling to do what I've done to achieve it. They're insecure about their failings, so they try to talk shit to knock me down and tell themselves they're better than I am. I realize I'm not the fastest, not the strongest, not the best at anything, there's always someone better. Rather than trying to feed my hamster like these pseudo girls do, I work my ass off to get better when I lose. That is how I have a 700hp car that does it all motor, and for a lot less money than most would assume. Working and learning how to do it better to get beat less, or not at all.... For a while.

These video game kids don't get it, everyone is a winner in their world, they've never lost, never been beaten so bad they questioned just how badly they sucked. They haven't learned to improve, they think like girls and try to knock down everyone else. They're girls, not men.

[–]2ex_addict_bro 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I realize I'm not the fastest, not the strongest, not the best at anything, there's always someone better. Rather than trying to feed my hamster like these pseudo girls do, I work my ass off to get better when I lose.

This exactly.

I feel like shit, like the shitties of the all of the shits in the whole world, yet I still train. Then suddenly I get that cognitive dissonance feeling, way way way too many women give me IOIs than I think there should be. Then I look in the mirror and I don't recognise the man standing there.

Then some guy with a post history in some subreddits about video games that I've never heard of, because I jumped the vidya train some time ago, when I saw how hurtful and disrespectful towards my own self it was to ride it, them such guy comes and writes something along the lines of whatever his big ego brings him.

I'm like "meh". "Whatever".

I was thinking about posting some shit on post-fucking game towards married women, but actually who's going to use that. ECs know that shit, I know it, you know it too. Video game alphas can play games while they wait until their unicorn gamer girls approach them during CS:GO match.

[–]bomerr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I would rather have 1 hb9 or 10 than the 100+ 4s you fucked.

[–]2ex_addict_bro 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't have a slightest idea how does this shit work.

Doing the "EAB check" - checking for video games in your post history. Bingo! Another "video game alpha". Yes, there's a correlation.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like the 6s to 8s. Thin, in shape, doesn't have to have the prettiest face, but a decent bod is mandatory. As of you'll we've get to fuck a 9 or 10. Shit to me 10s don't even exist, because those bitches have on so much makeup and shit that it hides the skank within. Kid I've easily fucked girls who would turn you down. Step up your game it's really not that hard to get laid.

[–]bomerr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit to me 10s don't even exist, because those bitches have on so much makeup and shit that it hides the skank within.

If you were a healthy person than you wouldn't need to insult attractive women. It's clear you are bitter on the inside. You have a lot of toxic beliefs.

[–]merkucjo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think Hollywood got anything wrong , they are just playing for different team and agenda. Is Hollywood agenda serving for our greatest good? Good to think independently.

[–]larryjack 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most men today are lost because what is shown to them is only carefully filtered data.

If they only see the "Hollywood" way and no other way, how can they possibly think about treating women like they should be treated (red)?

[–]srkjfone 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hollywood is no sense. When she breaks up apathy is all we should have for her. Fighting is reserved only when a life is at risk of a family member, a brother or a friend. Not for someone who leaves you. Move on.

[–]QPRCHOC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a footnote should be made about when this is a comfort test. I've had a girl mention that she's been thinking we should split up then get distraught when I say "alright then I can live with that", with complete impassiveness. On occasion LTRs do look for evidence you're still interested in them and still want them.

[–]PranksterLad 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have seen every single post on the Red Pill Forum lately by you. I've also seen posts of you saying how lonely you are not too long ago. So can you relax out, let others post, let the mods and key forum members do their jobs. I see your name and I think man, this guy just feels lonely and doesn't have much to do apart from post on the red pill forum so his phone vibrates with a new notification.

[–]1CaptainCringeworthy[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand and appreciate your sentiment. My motivations are to get clarity and feedback in my thoughts through comments in the Red Pill community. Validation by strangers means nothing to me.

[–]angryguy4444 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only way to get her back is to improve your life so much that you will fuck hotter and better girls. But by this time you won't even want to have her back.

[–]paulwalkr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is good basic advice. Or you could take it to the next level by practicing some dark triad on her. Toy with her. See how far you can push her. You've already written her off so why not maximize her utility to you.

[–]p3n1x 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

by practicing some dark triad on her.

Carefully.
Nobody wants to wake up to a cop at the door or worse a knife in the belly. Or any of your stuff on fire.

[–]SterlingEastwood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Conclusion: Hollywood got it wrong.

The blue pill dream is false and I agree with your post, but Hollywood definitely didn't get it wrong. They knew what's up, they just sold us lies on purpose. They created a new dogma, a new Redeemer Jesus role that no one could live up to: the Perfect Love, the Match Made in Heaven, the One™.

They created these idealistic films about The One True Love, Your Personal Savior - that everyone has the One who finally saves them from the perdition of fucking with strangers for eternity. But in real life this doesn't work for many reasons (which we very well know about), and these films also didn't show what happens when shit hits the fan - that's where the ending credits rolled in. And the majority of people are never questioning the dogma, even if it's obviously false.

No one could live up to these artificial standards and this created frustration. And frustrated consumers are the best ones because they buy every crap to feel better. The blue pill illusion is alive, and people are desperately whoring themselves out in searching for the non-existent One™. Buy her a ring, make babies, consume, consume, consume, pay mortgage, watch crappy shows to watch the commercials inbetween...I think you know where I'm going with this. It's all working for the system.

[–]CreamiestCream -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blue-pilled, beta male analysis. No knowledgeable + experienced man would ever be so heavily influenced by a film. Heavily feminized boys might feel the need to write about it tho.

[–]TALzFGxawb -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

let me tell you a story about the best girl i've ever met:

i lost my job, and got a little aimless/depressed. i got another (better) job, but the damage was already done. she started hitting on other guys in front of me, and she broke up with me when i asked her to stop. makes sense now, but i didn't get it at the time.

two weeks later, i contact her despite her wanting to do no contact. my basic thought was that, whether i get her back or not, i would feel like a lazy, wussy piece of shit if i didn't give her my best effort. so i call her, and give her a mini-speech, and we meet up for a walk, and i give her the full speech about how i fucked up, how much she means to me, etc.

after that, we had some good times, and a few more break ups for various reasons. the pattern was that she'd be shitty, we'd argue, and i'd break up with her, and she'd give me the speech

on the last break up, i took her out for break up dinner (we split the bill). told her that while we obviously have some twisted sort of love for each other, and we're obviously attracted to each other, we've got some fundamental differences that aren't going to work out. i told her that the best way i can think of for this to work, is if she goes and gets a long term partner that fits her life plan better, and we just stick to fucking and talking about cool shit and going for hikes, since that's what we're good at

she's had two partners since then. i've gone on a couple hikes with her, we call each other about once a month, and we fuck when the logistics are convenient. also, the sex is even better for both of us when she's cheating

but anyway, despite it being a pretty sappy thing to do, i think i developed a lot as a human by fighting for her that first time. if i hadn't done it, i would have kept wondering if there was anything i could have done to get her back/keep her. by going through with it, i knew that i could influence my reality quite a lot (but no amount would be enough to hang on to a fundamentally broken relationship)

[–]MissHolyHoly -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

These Hollywood movies are not what blue pill is about?! They perpetuate gender roles. Which red pill also seems to do giving the the excuse to hate women.