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Are they even worth trying? (self.MGTOW)

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Hello, I am 17 years old guy, never had a girlfriend, but I think about it a lot(less than before though) to the point that it often depresses me, because for a long time, it was my only real desire.(I have no other desires)

Through those two years I learnt that all the "beautiful things" about women(that I need them, romance, et cetera) are just Hollywood and other people lying to me, since childhood(That is hard influence to break, kids are influenced easily)

I also learnt that female nature is very toxic to a man and that big part of having a relationship is sex anyway.

I have been struggling with those things a lot, thought about it so often, because as I said: I basically lost my only "desire" and that was crushing me.

But I accepted it... mostly. I still want to believe that there is "the special woman"(foolish, I know). Smart, loyal, caring, fun, interesting... I don't even know. Is that even real? Are they worth the risk? I don't mean girls my age, not interested in dating those(various reasons, not developed personalities anyway). If I will date, then it will be in my 20s - and that is limited even more because of my own moral reasons I'd rather not say here, because I'd be mocked. I also highly value personal freedom and I have feeling that they really limit that. I actually see that, as I observed men in our family. Women control their time, argue, don't let them go places, control even their MONEY. I feel sorry for them.

So my question is simple. Are relationships even worth trying? I should say that the sexual part is not very important for me, I wanted it mainly because of "companionship"... Wouldn't a dog be better for that? heh

Haha, writing a lot. Sorry if my writing is confusing, and sorry if my grammar is wrong sometimes. I just can't put my thoughts "on paper" properly and English is my second language.

Edit: Forgot to say, this "problem" is only thing preventing me from being real MGTOW, because society + people's opinions about me don't really concern me.

Thanks for the answers/notes

Have a nice day lads

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[–]HIGHLORDOFSHITSTAINS 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

""Women control their time, argue, don't let them go places, control even their MONEY.""

This is what they do. The truth is looking at you. Right in the face.

""I wanted it mainly because of "companionship"... Wouldn't a dog be better for that? heh""

If you can afford it. Do it. But that means, food, cleaning, commitment. Basically a relationship.. except dogs love you unconditionally.. Unless you stop feeding it.

Also try to fill your time with hobbies or activities with friends, research, reading, writing, working out, schooling, etc. Positive things that ultimately pay off.

[–]belhaj7 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The simple answer is NO. Relationships aren't worth the effort. Don't put a lot of effort, it will be a waste. But if you want to be in a relationship you can do it for the experience.

I was in your shoes and I wasted that time on pua. Although it made me see reality first hand. All that effort and clown plays you have to do just to impress a woman isn't worth it at all. I did it to see what my odds are and I can tell you it's below 1%.

Spend that time on your career and you will thank me later in life.

Example You are trying to get 1000 girls and you get maybe 0, 1 or 2 girls fucked. or you spend that time working for your dreams/career. If you are wealthy you can fuck almost anyone.(prostitutes). Woman are just for sex nothing else. Or if you want some emotional connection that will not last forever. Do what you want but don't under any circumstance get married.

At last, I would like to to suggest this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf9sZqgvMow&t=620s

[–]paperlion60 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is a copy/paste of what I had in another sub.

Dude you're young, and you are raging with hormones. You say you are not super attractive, based on how you view yourself or how others treat you? I was in your shoes , and believe me when I say it's no fun watching the cool guys getting all the girls and you just stand watching. Get a girlfriend if you can, so you can get experience and not hate women like some on here do.since you are in 9th grade, girls are also just developing so therefore you are at no risk of many dangers they bring later on. But if you find it difficult to get a girlfriend . IT IS OK. As girls today are loose and hypergamous than ever. It's okay to masturbate. But keep it civilized , maybe once every three days. Find a gym and workout. Get strong. Find hobbies, good ones and stick with it.whatever it is you want to do with your life, find an older gentleman going the same thing and ask if he can be your mentor. Read philosophy. Do not under any circumstances talk about MGTOW to anyone . Go to YouTube and watch old videos of Thinking Ape" and all videos of "barbarosa ". Good luck.

[–]logophiliac 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're good to GYOW, young man. Indeed, this would be my own advice--no woman is worth the risk that you might find happiness with one (you won't). If you choose to ignore this infallible wisdom, just remember that you can never go home again.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. They look at what you can provide.

[–]Folwart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That pain, the depression, is cognitive disdonance caused by two opposing beliefs vying for dominance. We are constantly bombarded by propaganda telling us what to find attractive, what is 'cool', what we should be doing to 'feel' normal.

The depression can be temporarily relieved by giving in to the propaganda, but it will be a fleeting reprieve. You will constantly be trying to measure up to some unattainable external standard. Now, do not misunderstand me. External feedback should be taken into consideration and our internal standards should be set high, but attainable.

Another path to reprieve is to resist the propaganda. Search for truth, and learn to differentiate between truth and hearsay. Train your intuition by searching within and becoming in timidly familiar with your emotions, bridle them so you hold the reigns. Be skeptical, but keep an open mind, find balance. One should neither be easily swayed, nor excessively stubborn.

Explore the truth for yourself, put information to the test yourself. We have some level of control of our experience here, it happens by attaining dominion over the way we think and thus how we behave. Change the way you think, a change in behavior will follow, as will your experience. Emotion, intuition, is a powerful force that can aid you or hinder you. It all depends upon whether you choose to master it, or let it rule you.

[–]-I-Am- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am so jealous of you. You are so lucky to have discovered this at such a young age.

[–]truthserum23 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're ahead of the curve at 17, but you should experience the joy and sometimes guilt of sex. Explore it as much as reasonably possible without making yourself too vulnerable to female manipulation. That's all it's really about, enjoying life's pleasure without being controlled by the pussy, but rather controlling your emotions so that you do not become a slave to it.