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[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 148 ポイント149 ポイント  (24子コメント)

The 9s and 10s have a different problem: Because they easily attract male attention without effort, many fail to develop their relationship skills, so they find themselves North of 30 with declining looks and prospects, plus an insufferably immature personality. Women in the 5-7 range are much more likely to have worked through a couple of LTRs by the same age and have a much more realistic and developed mindset.

A much bigger factor of whether a woman hops on the Cock Carousel and becomes damaged is whether she had a good father figure growing up, and accordingly developed a healthy self-esteem. Mentally healthy women across the SMV scale can maintain a healthy relationship with a man. It's the ones trying to fill an empty place in their psyche that become wanton sluts regardless of their place on the SMV scale; it's damaged goods all the way down.

[–]skankhunt-yon-juu-ni 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because they easily attract male attention without effort, many fail to develop their relationship skills, so they find themselves North of 30 with declining looks and prospects, plus an insufferably immature personality.

This x1000. My mentor/good friend is in his late 50's. He got divorced several years ago and remarried a smoke show in her early 50's in 2014. Probably a 9.8 or 9.9, age adjusted (e.g., she was always extremely hot among her age group). She brought two kids to the marriage, but my buddy tolerated it because she was soooo hot. Anyway, this lady was among the most immature people I've ever met. The very first time I met her was a night where my buddy was giving me a ride home, but I had to run and grab something and didn't want to hold them up too long so my salutation was merely something like "nice to meet you" and then I turned to go grab my stuff. She took this as a full frontal assault and refused to talk to me ever again (I hang at this guy's house probably 3x a month during football and basketball season).

Of course, my buddy is now in the process of divorce proceedings. The stories this guy told about her were just amazing and far too many to repeat, but suffice it to say, you are spot on. A dwindling HB9-10 lacks basic logic skills and empathy that most people start to build from about 12 years of age because the world has kissed her ass so much and for so long that when that stops, she has no idea what has happened and blames the world, which she thinks revolves around her.

[–]jackandjill22 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you still think that average girls have an N-count of less than 12-16 you're throughly Beta.

[–]kteara 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Can I ask you what is the best ones to go for as LTR/Marriage?

I was with a HB 8-9 but this girl was infact a slut in her past... The thing that I cannot seem to work out however is that her father was an important figure in her life and someone who had good values. Was he just a shit parent or was she just influenced by her surroundings as a teenager? Her relationship with her mother was quite bad as she was very strict on her apparently.

[–]ImHydeRightNow 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Tbh best relationship I had was with a 4-5. Best blowjobs ever, and she knew I had options so she put her work in. If I have another Ltr it'll be with another 4-6, they try so hard to make any relationship they can find work.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Second wife was homely and plain, thin, small different sized tits, ungainly and awkward, always wears flannel or fleece and sweatshirts, even in summer. Never wears makeup and has crooked teeth. 21 and a virgin when I met her, 13 years my junior. Absolutely brilliant intellect, lots of fun to argue about various subjects and could comprehend then ask thoughtful questions about almost any subject. We never fought, fucked at least 3x a week and usually every day. She was without a doubt the kinkiest most submissive slut I've ever fucked. Absolutely wonderful for 8 years, she knew I was the best she could do and I could easily replace her.

I assumed nobody would ever be desperate enough to fuck her that war on par or above me in smv, and that her intellect would keep the losers away. Well she decided this kid 7 years younger than her was better, so I punted her ass out. He is about the most entitled loser I've ever met, it's most amusing to see her struggle living off her daddy's money with this kid. He wanted any piece of ass, was stalking fat single moms in their 30s and 40s. She nuked her life for and is now stuck with him.

They will work hard to keep you, and with minimal shit tests if you don't fail any. I got very sick for 6 months, unable to breathe and be active. That's all it took to get her looking for the branch swing. I'm having more fun fucking better looking girls, most half my age, but I'm sure as fuck not keeping them. Did the ltr thing, not doing it anymore. Not even with another homely or hot kinky slut that worships the ground I walk on. They are lots of fun though.

First wife was hot, 20, great body. She was utterly crazy, bipolar, abusive to the kids and I, and she got fat then cheated and left. Awalt

[–]RedPillHanSolo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's all it took to get her looking for the branch swing

Was that the time when she found that "kid"?

[–]username082016 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agreed, they put up with a LOT too. I used to have an issue with alcohol and would say some mean stuff and she always took good care of me. Even now years after our breakup she is a good friend I trust.

[–]slay_it_forward 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

A 4 is either fat or extremely ugly / disfigured. How do you get horny for a 4?

[–]Femdom_Cuckold 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Since when does a point below average mean horribly disfigured?

[–]slay_it_forward 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not horribly. Just slightly. One eye going in the wrong direction, terrible teeth, weird limp, mustache etc

[–]Femdom_Cuckold 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ey if I'm horny enough I'll hit that

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no one simple tell or factor that indicates a given woman will make a good partner. People are complex creatures, that's what the dating and vetting process is for. You need to observe over time and in a variety of situations and contexts.

Factors like low partner count in the context of LTRs, healthy relationship with both parents, lack of toxic beliefs and bad behaviors are all positive signs, but you still have to take the entire person into consideration.

[–]Your_Coke_Dealer 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't. Keep multiple options available for best results from women of any SMV.

Also, ignore women's assessments of each other's SMV. I've seen 7s shit-talk 9s they know I'm involved with as ugly or even "creepy" (a term generally reserved for low-SMV guys) because they see them as a threat.

[–]Vanq86 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think solved your own puzzle; her poor relationship is her mother is likely to blame. If you want to avoid damaged goods get to know the people who raised her and evaluate her relationship with them.

[–]kteara 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been debating in my mind whether its worth just battling through some of the shit in order to mold her and build her up to a good standard as its virtually impossible to find a decent girl with a zero bodycount nowadays. If you live in a city, most girls have gone through a hoe stage.

Can you explain why a poor relationship, one where a mother was very strict on her daughter, would cause her to become a complete whore?

[–]ladopairts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to play the hypergamy game. Date down. If your SMV is assuredly higher than hers in all categories, she won't act up and she will treat you with respect regardless of all the other factors.

[–]bomerr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

LTR/Marriage is all about personality. Not just damaged goods/maturity but lack of communication issues. The reason for this is because LTR/Marriage is about finding a person who you can speak about the most boring shit in your average day and still find them interesting. Because after you've told each other all your stories, that's all you will do together for 20+ years.

[–]kteara 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aren't these the type where they are boring in bed?

My last girl "damaged goods" from her whore past and she was very immature but she was a few years younger than me so. But the sex was amazing and the comfort is next to none. She was very fun to be around. In the end, I had to drop her because I was constantly being depressed by the thought of her whore past and it was giving me too much pain/stress.

[–]ladopairts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is so true.

I just came out of a relationship with a HB 9. She was extremely immature and basically thought that men should succumb to her every request. To make things worse, her previous boyfriend DID do everything she asked without questioning it.

If you want a stable relationship, date down. My buddy from grade school is the spitting image of an alpha male but doesn't know it (total blue-pill upbringing and mindset). He is with a girl who has a much lower SMV than him and she treats him like a King. She wouldn't dare even argue with the guy.

[–]strange_to_be 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I tend to agree. Maybe not the 6-7s specifically, but I definitely think the 8-10s are typically more mentally healthy for the reasons you say.

The 8-10 that is openly flirty, wears sexy clothing, talks about sex etc, typically isn't particularly promiscuous, and has a relatively low n count. The thing is, she's so comfortable with her sexuality, and gets exactly what she wants, and really does look good in tight clothing.

The 6s and 7s that, say, dress slutty usually do it to a greater degree than the 8s-10s, and really everything to a greater degree. They're overcompensating and pretending that they have control over their sex lives, but they don't, they can't, hypergamy breaks them because a typical 6 will never find an 8 that wants to bring her home to the family.

[–]1ShallITinder 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A lot of good posts coming up on the red pill recently, this is yet another one. I also find that it is commonly 6s and 7s that play the popularity games, gossip a lot about others, are full of hatred towards 9s and 10s, very confrontational, fake, attention hungry, and by far some of the most mentally damaged women out there.

The worst ones are the 6s and 7s you can tell are trying hard to be a 10 but the genetics aren't really there. Many of them will go to a salon to make their hair blonde (fake blondes are some of the most cruel and damaged women out there), get fake tans, and do all that in order to hide an otherwise plain looking face. All of this must play a harsh role on the psyche of these girls, doing all that but realizing at the end of the day that they are nothing higher than a 7.

I have found that naturally beautiful girls are always the best. The girls who have good figures and pretty faces but aren't really putting in that much work to look good are always the most approachable. Most of the times they had the good looks but never really put in the effort to play the whole social ladder game. I think this really applies to non-American women, especially foreign blondes, who just want to have a great time and enjoy their lives rather than obsessing about the status games. Most of these women are naturally beautiful while their American counterparts tend to try really hard to make up for poor genetics and fail.

6s and 7s commonly take out their frustrations on guys that are not Chads and they try to make the lives of other women hell. Most of these women are validation seeking monsters that just need their release.

[–]raisins3142 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I was graduating undergrad and looking at grad schools, a female professor told me "go to a great school or a not so good school, do not go to a school that is just out of the top range because most professors there will be status obsessed and work you into the ground to make up for their lack of creativity".

She was right. I disobeyed her and went to a school ranked between 50 and 100 for national universities. It is a 6 or 7 out of 10.

I also dated women that were in the same range, and the experience was striking between them and the faculty of that school.

[–]papersupplier 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A very similar case is women of all ages who are skinny but not a pretty face. They have a killer body, so they get pumped and dumped all the time. Every man is a sucker for a skinny tight body at some point when they are drunk. But no man sticks around in the morning ever, due to the reality of their face. These women turn out super bitter because they have been fucked so many times with no return. So they start to scorn all the attention they get (until they get drunk and stop caring).

[–]JK_Hardwood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A recent experience of mine was with a 5. Skinny, moderately cute Mexican girl. Drank like a fish, smoked like my grandpa and had a ton of guy "friends." Daddy was in prison, mommy didn't give a shit, so I guess she compensated by riding the CC because she openly admitted to me that she "fucks random guys she meets at bars." Long story short, she is BPD and stopped taking her meds. She would get shit drunk and ride my dick until she passed out, the next morning she wouldn't even talk to me. Total mind fuck of a situation.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It's really not 100%.

For every damaged average girl I've met, I've met two more who were great and realised that living life in the same way as sluts would severely damage their valure. These girls have focused on making themselves relationship material, and some of them actually suppress the worst aspects of AWALT.

9s and "10s" really don't have to do this, because a lot of them can easily snag a beta after they've hit the wall.

[–]orange_juice007 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

True, but this is TRP and people here (IMO) tend to exaggerate women's "dark sides". I've only seen a couple damaged 6s or 7s in my life, and a lot more good ones.

[–]1kez88 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Also had a good lol at her n count being 20 making a guy go into beta shame. at 26 I hear a girl i'm banging has only had 20 I think thats about average haha. Anything in single digits I think shes a virgin haha

[–]skylive2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you're downvoted by people who don't want to face the reality of an average woman's n-count

[–]1kez88 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably. Honestly, with how much women get hit on every single day, to have said yes 15-20 times over like 10 YEARS is pretty forgivable. If she loses her virginity at 16, then sleeps with a new guy every 6 MONTHS thats an n-count of 20 at 26. I've seen 18 or 19 y.o girls with an n-count of 20, still wasn't surprised

[–]Steve_Wiener 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I've met two more who were great and realised that living life in the same way as sluts would severely damage their valure.

That's why they hide it. It's called girl game. You'll never know about the shit she did at college parties or the dorms or those times she had unprotected sex w a random man she met the same night at a bar.

"It just happened."

[–]orange_juice007 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You don't KNOW that. You can only assume she did those things. I know there is sweet karma on TRP for saying "that girl is a slut", but there is no point in making girls sluts in your mind (to a certain point, as long as you don't pedestalize them), because then no girl is good enough for you. Where does this lead you?

[–]Steve_Wiener 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, and they're on tinder to just "make friends" and they go out to bars just to hang out with the girls. You'd be surprised how convincing the good girl act can be. I myself was recently deceived by one I work with, but after a few weeks of gathering clues and evidence from overhearing choice conversations and playing the role of the non judgmental, sex positive enabler, I saw through her game. Spend enough time around them they will let enough slip to dispel that fantasy, if you're paying attention and don't actively delude yourself with the good girl unicorn fantasy.

Guys desperately want their love interest to be the "good girl" so sometimes they will help deceive themselves by not wanting to believe anything contrary to that myth and ignoring the evidence.

[–]orange_juice007 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

As there are betas and chads, there are sluts and good girls. Understand what AWALT means - not that women are sluts fucking new chad every day, divorcing their husbands ASAP, being bitchy to betas and so on. It means they are have the capacity to be like that. Good girls are very unlikely to do all that.

I'm not new to TRP, so don't try to put this "you're just looking for a unicorn" argument on me. I've seen good girls being totals bitches and getting away with it, I had opportunity to fuck girls who had boyfriend at home. I've also seen good girls treating their boyfriends with respect and love and doing housing stuff for him.

I know the majority of TRP are people in anger phase, so all they see are basic female bitches. But there are good girls out there. Not unicorns, girls.

[–]Steve_Wiener 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They cultivate that image so you will never expect that they did engage in promiscuity and casual sex at some point in their life. They are very good at feigning innocence and naivete. And it seems like you really want to believe in that image. Yes I am saying that virtually all of them are sluts. Just because you don't see it or they are monogamous now it doesn't mean they never had their slut "phase" so to speak because in my experience and many others I have read and heard it is un-waveringly true.

I think it can be agreed that guys define "good girl" based on their n count, not their attitude and I am claiming "there are no good girls, just girls who haven't been caught yet."

[–]SeemedGood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes I am saying that virtually all of them are sluts.

This just isn't true. Certainly with the general decay of morality in Western society it may be becoming more true, but there are still many young women who are strong enough and willing enough to hold the execution of their hypergamy in check through college - though probably not very long after that.

If you're looking for an LTR or (God forbid) a marriage candidate, you just have to find them while they're still young enough not to have fallen off the wagon and be their first AF, and then plate them relatively quickly.

[–]TheRealMouseRat 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (8子コメント)

don't throw a beta-tantrum when you find out you're her 20th.

and that's still quite low.

[–]waffles492 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

don't throw a beta tantrum

Ahh yes, the ghost of my beta past.

[–]Popular-Culture[S] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The most heartbreaking thing for a man to find out is that his pedestalized princess of a unicorn has been a fucktoy in the past for a lot of guys. It happened to my roommate and essentially ruined him for 6 months. Poor kid had no idea his girlfriend was a whore. Remember, it's just your turn.

[–]chonaXO 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm so glad I found TRP before meeting my current ltr. 10 guys before me, (according to her so probably 20) if I hadn't assumed she was a whore, I would've gotten ruined.

[–]waffles492 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someday I'll make room for a full disclosure of all the crazy, mishapped shit and under what nuances did it happen with a single girl. Strange, I had swallowed the pill somewhere in the middle of the prolonged situation. I was balls deep in theory, nmmng & how to win friends done, and had just began the rational male sometime around the last of the climaxes of the whole thing. It's very peculiar to watch everything fall apart and know exactly what broke when, why, and where exactly it would land in regards to the relationship. I was losing my shit in many different places and for so many reasons that after a point, they all became synonymous to each other. At least, with the knowledge of now undoubted truths, I see it as a the single greatest gift I have ever received and it could have been folds more worse than it was. I could pinch out a short story esque piece from just a portion of the encounter, and I really ought to, the revelation in it is so grand that it's scary how much it reads like a script.

[–]keithmcd901 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you have to ask what her number is its way to high for you to want to know, just don't bother it's not worth it, asking a chick how many guys she has fucked is like asking a guy how many fat girls he fucked and for how many times the answer is always nope never happened

[–]voomer53 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

asking a chick how many guys she has fucked is like asking a guy how many fat girls he fucked

Or like asking a guy how many times he paid for sex..nope never happened....

[–]TrumpRules2016 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have never directly paid for sex, but I have paid many times for a happy ending massage.

[–]kyledontcare 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only her 20th? More like 50th at least.

[–]Friendly_B 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what I came to say. I wonder about the age of the posters on here sometimes.

[–]EtherzZero21 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with this but caveat it with any girl that's not a 9 or 10 will be significantly more slutty with you because of a variety of reasons usually rooted in an insecurity of sorts. I usually avoid the hottest girls for this reason. I'm dirty and like a good mess of a fuck. A girl, as long as she's not overweight, are all pretty much the same naked. And even if they have a butterface there's some kind of strange hotness that forms on even the most fucked up faces when they get dick drunk.

[–]sickofallofyou 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I call them practice girls.

[–]FilosMan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are no unicorns. Stop arguing this.

If a girl has exceptional sex skills she has either run the carousel or worked professionally . Possibly even part time.

A large number of high class paid whores work only a few times a year with specially clients introduced to them by full time working girls.

Where do you think they got the skills to give mind blowing BJ and fuck like porn stars

Check out a girls FB or Insta history and many of those that have skills have first connection friends who work professionally. It's not a coincidence .

[–]raisins3142 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure a lot of guys can identify the feeling of thinking a girl is not easy (or you like her and so don't want her to be)...and then she sleeps with you quick. And she knows so many moves that she tries many and then hones in on what you respond to and does that.

A girl that has been in a handful of relationships will know what those guys liked. And every guy is a bit different. If she knows a broad cross sections of things to try until she exactly pegs you, then that tells you a good bit.

[–]raisins3142 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with all this.

Before lifting I was probably a 6.5 and have added probably a point to that by lifting for a year.

I say that because I'm right at the same level of looks as the damaged sluts you mention.

It is established that relationship SMVs are closer than those of ONSs.

So I and I bet other men like me have had many sluts try or succeed to LTR us.

It's sickening and something that helped red pill me.

Lots of alpha widows in that bracket and cheaters for a similar reason.

They can cheat with a guy hotter than their BF.

[–]sadomasochrist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Purple pill bullshit. There is no number that works. 1-4 are ultra LSE, uncontrollable. 5-7 are damaged, 8-10 are in saturated markets. 1-10 are women.

AWALT, plate, pump and dump.

[–]1nonthaki 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Women and their lack of innate/instinctual awareness of sexual market dynamics disgusts me .

[–]zephyrprime 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing is, all their instincts worked in ancient times or the olden days. In super ancient times, they would get knocked up by the alpha but they had communal child rearing or the alpha was the only dude that fucked until he was murdered by the next alpha.

In olden days, if you got knocked up by chad you would get a shotgun marriage so you actually could lock down chad even if you were a 6 sometimes.

Nowadays, they've got nothing except government support (which I am against). Nobody has instincts evolved for the modern world. Society is stupid for not publically teaching people about this super important issue. This topic is literally the most important challenge people will face in their lives other than their career and it is not talked about at all and is a taboo topic.

[–]raisins3142 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was in the past. Moms told their daughters not to put out too quick to make sure the guy actually like her and told her to be wary of the good looking, smooth talker trying to seduce her.

Now, we have celebrities telling women to ride the CC to get it out of their systems.

[–]Steve_Wiener -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they have some instinctual understanding but don't care because they are in power and do whatever they want.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I want to add a 3) Go for that 9 and 10, these girls are used to turning down chads and betas that being approached by someone normal foreign to them. Their smv still allows them to be extremely picky and choosey but those 9s and 10s are very self aware of their SMV that they don't fall for every Chad. If they want a man to thrill them and willing to commit afterwards, they can turn down countless numhers of high smv men to find their prince.

[–]jewishsupremacist88 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

can you imagine how fucked up things are going to be for those of us who have kids in the future? most western white women are not marriage material.

the red pill truths about finding a good stable partner is taking a look at her family. hint: girls from blue collar families are trash. so are most black and latin women as well.

[–]JFMX1996 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It sucks because even white collar daughters are terrible if not worse. From the ones I've dated they're even more conditional in LTR's and have a more fucked up, Hollywood Disney-esque ideal of romance and have grown up with dudes trying to please them.

I agree with the Latin women. I'm a Hispanic guy with a good connection to my European side, and most these other Hispanic girls are just kind of dumb and dramatic about every little thing. Most of them don't share my interests in philosophy and self-improvement and fitness. They age pretty terribly too. Where I'd see some pretty fucking hot white cougars all the time I never see a hot Latin American woman in her 30's or 40's.

Now just imagine black women.

[–]jewishsupremacist88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

the hot latin women in their 30s/40s are usually half white or have alot of white DNA In them. i used to chill with a mexican girl who could pass for white, she was smart as hell and majoring in physics..obviously some european lineage there cause she wasnt the typical frumpy latina.

[–]JFMX1996 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah man, I kept that in mind. It's pretty funny.

Those ones are fucking sexy. But in general, most of them are kind of stubby, flabby, and weird looking. Even the ones that are of more European lineage became accustomed to the lifestyle of most others Hispanics which don't work out much and eat a lot of greasy foods.

[–]H4RV3YSP3CT3R 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've always thought this personally the wall crushes 6s and 7s

[–]nametaken666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

My friend's new girlfriend is a 6.5 or so, and he doesn't know it, but she and I both know she has fucked half my coworkers... She works in the same town as me. She's one of those damaged girls with a really shady past, tattoos all over (and not good ones), smokes a lot, loves male attention/doesn't like other women... RED FLAGS DUDE. Gross.

[–]mattcooperkay 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

And as his friend it's your duty to warn him...

[–]nametaken666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

oh I have! He always seems attracted to the damaged girls... I hope he knows what he's doing lol

[–]mattcooperkay -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You just said he doesn't know it?

Doesn't matter either way, just a shame to see that happen if their a true friend.

[–]nametaken666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean he doesn't know that she fucked my coworkers (this was before he dated her but I think it's gross). I can't just say "hey your gf is a whore": you know how bluepill guys are, they get mad when you tell them their special snowflake has been full of dicks. He'll learn on his own. I drop some hints that she's crazy but I don't think he really thinks it over

[–]raisins3142 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can drop hints, or say "hey do you know that GF slept with A, B, C, D,...., and Z?". You don't have to call her a whore.

[–]nametaken666 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True but in a way I don't think he really cares that much... he usually stays with a girl for 6 months or so and breaks up if/when their drama outweighs the having sex part

[–]Luckyluke23 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you are only as good as her last fuck.

it's pretty simple.

[–]Project_Thor 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe that the sluttiest, most fucked up

This view is based on resentment that she won't be your girl, as in 'Most fucked up to have a relationship'

See it as it is, I call them Orgy Girls.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not really. 6s and 7s merely have a much higher chance of being alpha widowed. That's about the end of the direct relationship between attractiveness and how broken a woman will be. The rest is all indirect and more complex.

[–]zephyrprime 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're basically agreeing with the op's thesis...

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're basically lacking the ability to grasp nuance...

Edit: For all you guys who're agreeing with him through the voting system, you're going to need to do a similar bit of reflection because you're also not grasping the nuances going on here. Remember that TRP is not a democracy for good reason. Because the masses of newbies compared to veterans would make very bad teachers.

[–]H4RV3YSP3CT3R 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was already stated that 6s and 7s get pumped and dumped by chad in the post = alpha widow and we all know 8s - 10s can keep chad.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Errr no. It's way more complicated than that. Stop posting and go read some more.

[–]H4RV3YSP3CT3R 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know it varies by Alpha but looks is one of the main factors for most.

[–]EuronPacificus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I disagree.

9s and 10s become a higher status Chad's sex object like Sheiks, actors and producers.

[–]mitzibishi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Not all 9s or 10s have access to those men. What about all the 9s or 10s in small cities and towns?

[–]EuronPacificus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

They move to cities to become actresses, models, porn stars, or escorts.

[–]mitzibishi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Really. All 9s or 10s do that? The entire population of 9s or 10s move to L.A.? What if they live in the North East UK. They just become prostitutes?

[–]EuronPacificus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think you are not aware how rare a "9" or a "10" is.

[–]mitzibishi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you think that all the 9 or 10s in the whole world move to LA and either become prostitutes, actresses or try and marry billionaire sheiks you are deluded.

There are plenty from countries around the world with regular jobs who have not fucked a famous actor or became a prostitute.

More in fact. You see them on instagram and facebook with regular lives. And they dont all move to LA from Leeds England or Cologne Germany.

[–]gazzaa2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

9 or 10s with their shit together have no problem locking down a high status male. High status males do usually get married and have LTR's because he's got the best options. She may well cheat with another Chad behind his back whether it be some bad boy thug or the pool attendant.

[–]Xander_DB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Disagree. There's less high status males than there are 9 and 10 females. That's precisely WHY high status males live their lives on GOD mode. I know a girl right now that's still a 8 at 29 and was a hard 10 in her teens/early 20s that's married to a guy that's nothing close to a high status male.

[–]EuronPacificus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Again, you dont seem to understand what a 9 is.

Lastly, please point out where I mentioned the city of Los Angeles. Ill wait.

[–]pianoboner44 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/sudsygiraffe --I find this very interesting.

[–]ATrashMan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Always just assume she's a slut so that you don't throw a beta-tantrum when you find out you're her 20th.

good advice and entertaining

[–]liftshootdrink 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was taught this by a coach in college: Women are binary. There are only 1's (you would) or 0's (you wouldn't).

Made my life easier.

[–]abbafishhead 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wrote about this before in a separate post, so I agree 100%:

First things first, some nuance: hot girls who are confident and with high self-esteem tend to be less afflicted by the Thousand Cock Stare/false positives/disillusionment. These are the girls who know that having sex with even Brad Pitt doesn't mean shit. They're secure in their beauty, attractiveness, and value as a person. As such, they don't have sex unless there is genuine attraction. They tend to have low n-counts, and, because of their femininity, they're often rewarded with long-lasting and happy LTRs with a good man way before the Wall.

Ugly/obese girls tend to be extremely realistic about their chances of locking down a man, any man, for commitment (close to zero), and they know that they're only barely making the cut for sex. While they have casual sex for validation and reassurance of their attractiveness, it doesn't happen too often, and they're extremely based and grounded in reality -- they know that every sexual encounter is little more than a fluke. They've made peace with the fact that no man is ever going to take them seriously, and they're very used to it.

It's the average-to-slightly above average girls who have it the worst, in my opinion. They tend to be insecure in their value and attractiveness, and they constantly have casual sex for validation, to remind themselves that they're still sexy, desirable, wanted, and attractive. I knew a girl who had sex with ELEVEN guys in a week. Nobody loves sex that much or is that horny; the only logical explanation is that she's getting fucked for validation. Unfortunately, these girls are at the SMV threshold where they can even fuck 9s and 10s, even if only once. This gives them an undue sense of entitlement and a warped idea as to what their "league" is, but they very soon realize that these guys are usually false positives. When they try to convert these short-term physical encounters into a long-term emotional relationships, they realize these men quickly bail. In other words, they have no staying power -- these men pump and dump them without impunity.

Even guys who're not indoctrinated in Red Pill principles would know that a girl who's as eager (or more eager) to have sex as himself is a red flag; it's a sign of addiction, addiction to validation and a sense of reassurance that she's still wanted and attractive. It's a girl with a mountain of insecurities, body image issues, self-esteem deficiency, etc., and her coping mechanism is to get fucked to feel better.

Yet they feel a strong sense of betrayal and disillusionment the moment it becomes a clear pattern that none of these men are serious about a relationship, failing to realize that the moment she has sex on the first date, she has been largely disqualified from being LTR-material. These girls know this; they simply can't help it. They're worried that the guy would lose interest and cut off all contact if she doesn't put out soon enough.

Any girl who operates like this obviously has a lack of desirable personality traits to retain a guy's attention, substituting her lack of value for a ready provision of her sexual services. And when these men either cut them off for playing games, i.e. artificially not putting out, or immediately disqualify them for LTRs, they move on to the next guy with the same modus operandi, only to get pumped-and-dumped again and again until she approaches the Wall, where she will undoubtedly settle for a disgusting Beta provider to avoid loneliness and the negative social stigma associated with female singlehood.