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[–]GorptasticUncle Milt 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

As someone who has frequented this sub for several years, long enough to have seen hangers-on from the political left and right come and go, I hope this new alt right fad passes. It is not ancap, it never was or will be ancap. Racism is a collectivist notion that requires a state to sustain itself.

To anyone reading this who hasn't seen the historical, fruitful philosophy behind libertarianism, please watch YouTube videos from Mises, Cato, FEE, or Nielsio, or more specialized subreddits. Some users on this subreddit have taken advantage of our hands-off moderation and spew hatred on the daily. They are loud minorities and want attention, little more than autists really. Our response is to down vote, ostracize, and educate, which seems compatible with the libertarian response. They post here because no other subreddit will accept them, and libertarians are quite used to protecting the liberties of all speech including hate speech. They will probably down vote me and call me names but I am past the point of caring about what they think.

[–]SocialNationalism -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Racism is a collectivist notion that requires a state to sustain itself.

Anarcho-Capitalism is a collectivist notion because you understand yourself as a group of people with shared objectives and ideas. http://i.imgur.com/9mnR0Bm.png

Also the idea that the state is necessary for racism to sustain itself is just unsupported and retarded dogma.

[–]the_calibre_cat 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's cute that you think that by bending over to appease them, they'll stop.

[–]halfback910Previously Banned From /R/DebateAltRight 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I mean you're not wrong. All we can do is correct them.

And I bet they really do know, honestly. They just see that as an avenue of attack and chase it.

[–]LiamJacksonSmithEpistocratic Capitalist -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You haven't corrected anyone. You've lost the argument that open borders for welfare states is a good idea. Go ahead and do a poll of the sub right now to see if I'm wrong.

[–]ironclad_capillariesVoluntarist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Our argument is not "open borders". It is privatized borders and that state-run borders are not an acceptable substitute for them.

It's like pointing out how being against public schools will make everyone stupid, except oh wait I never said schools shouldn't exist.

[–]snizzypooVoluntaryist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very True. The Alt-right has zero intention of getting rid of the state so the border arguement is always within the context of the state as existing. They are pretty high right now as the right has been winning lately but I wonder if they ever think about how expanding state power could backfire.

[–]LiamJacksonSmithEpistocratic Capitalist -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not true and no one cares.

https://i.redd.it/gfqmc401cn3y.jpg

[–]ironclad_capillariesVoluntarist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You seem to care quite a bit.

[–]LiamJacksonSmithEpistocratic Capitalist -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm just making sure everyone else knows you lost the argument so that everyone knows you are a loser.

[–]ironclad_capillariesVoluntarist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If my position were literally that strawman you spammed at me then I hope I'd lose.

[–]halfback910Previously Banned From /R/DebateAltRight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean... that's probably correct. It would be fun to see what happens in a small, isolated welfare nation with open borders, though. Maybe one that's an island nation? Maybe... Ireland?

:D

[–]yeh-nah-yeh 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are aren't they. I have to read their racist BS in every other thread here.

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    [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Many of these people are not libertarians and have no interest in engaging in any form of discussion of statism bar pushing forward their half baked ideology.

    [–]pablo4810 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It does seem like the "alt right" attracts a serious amount of hateful racist dickheads?

    I mean we can all agree with that?

    [–]NoGardE 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    From what I've seen, it started with people getting accused of one of those -isms the left tends to throw at people they don't want to listen to. They stopped having real power to get people ostracized. Then the people who really do believe the worst of those -isms, the reason the -isms have terms, noticed. And because the -isms had no power any more, more reasonable people engaged with them. Now they have a platform.

    I think it'll end in a healthier culture overall, but there's a lot of built up bullshit from communities getting isolated, and getting more extreme. We need to sort through the bullshit with the people we think are wrong. Nothing but reasonable argument will ever work long term.

    [–]MephistopheleansPropertarian 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I've noticed it's only those with a painful lack of any self-awareness who still think rallying and shaming tactics are going to continue to work in The Current Year . These tactics don't even work well at the institutional level any more, you think they're going to work on an obscure subreddit? Feminine solipsism ftw.

    [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I lack self awareness because I think that crypto-fascists are a nuisance?

    At least I think thats what you were trying to say.

    [–]InitiumNovumFisting deep for liberty 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (34子コメント)

    Why should they be banned? As someone from Ireland, of 100% Hibernian phenotype and who frequents /r/Ireland, the truth doesn't offend or scare me. If it's true, it's true, what more can be said? If there is contention over what is true let it be debated. I'm aware that Irish people in general score within 1 standard deviation below the Western European average, there is plenty of evidence to back this up. Who cares if it's "racist" or not to say this? Calling facts racist doesn't improve the situation. Personally I think Ireland needs eugenics, you just wouldn't believe the stupidity I have to put up with on a daily basis. On a more annecdotal level, I have travelled around most of Western European and the lack of sophistication of Irish people compared to the rest of the rest if North-Western and Central Europe is very evident.

    [–]NuclearSpaceLegos 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    How can you support eugenics and be an anarcho capitalist?

    [–]InitiumNovumFisting deep for liberty -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm not an anarcho-capitalist.

    [–]temujin64 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (23子コメント)

    O, anecdotal evidence. I suppose that's better than no source.

    You're very, very slowly learning. Maybe next time you might actually use an academic article as a source. The only problem with that is that all contemporary articles on eugenics rightly disprove it as pseudoscientific garbage.

    [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (21子コメント)

    Natural selection doesn't exist? Wha?

    [–]temujin64 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (20子コメント)

    This is why I hate arguing with people who believe in this pseudo-scientific garbage. You don't know how to make a proper argument without falling into the trap of argumentative fallacies.

    Your comment above was a classic straw-man argument. But I'll humour you anyway. Natural selection does exist. But eugenics is not natural selection, there's nothing natural about it. Do you think all the different dog breeds we have came out of natural selection? No, that was controlled breeding, a form of eugenics.

    [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (19子コメント)

    eugenics is not natural selection, there's nothing natural about it

    There's nothing natural about being attracted to mate with fitter specimen?

    And why would managing this process on a larger scale make it all of a sudden become "pseudoscience"? Is dog breeding "pseudoscience"?

    [–]Cobmojo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (18子コメント)

    This is nothing more statist than "managing" human breeding. That is the opposite of individual liberty.

    Edit: not to mention your "science" isn't science.

    [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    You couldn't organize eugenics in a private society?

    not to mention your "science" isn't science

    Why isn't it?

    [–]Cobmojo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (16子コメント)

    You couldn't organize eugenics in a private society?

    A private society that disallows people to breed? That doesn't sound too voulntary to me.

    Why isn't it?

    This sums it up: http://io9.gizmodo.com/5925024/why-eugenics-will-always-fail

    [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (15子コメント)

    I thought you guys were contractualists?

    This sums it up: http://io9.gizmodo.com/5925024/why-eugenics-will-always-fail

    Is this really just a leftist blog?

    [–]Cobmojo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

    You're in your own world. If you don't care to refute any of what's offered or give some scientific research, how can we dialogue?

    [–]InitiumNovumFisting deep for liberty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm getting this from both academic sources written on the topic (stuff you can easily just google) and my own personal experience. What academic articles prove eugenics to be pseudoscience?

    [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    That's very big of you, actually. People like you can take heart in knowing a non-trivial portion of intelligence is gene-additive and will persist (narrow sense heritability) so long as you choose a mate with as much judiciousness.

    The main problem is that most people don't. All peoples should take up the responsibility of refusing to insulate their underclass from their mistakes (aristocratic stewardship). Even West Africans could obtain a high quality gene pool by this method.

    It's not like it was ever my position there aren't very intelligent Irishman of great character. One of the more intelligent guys in my circle is heavily Irish. These larger groups are also somewhat clunky statistical categories. The more precise category we act on and should care about is the extended family subgenomes.

    I'd prefer an Irish wife of great family background than a German wife of lower class background. So, when we talk about large ethnic and racial categories, we're really comparing and contrasting the amount of high quality extended family subgenomes and those of poor.

    When we say "blacks are less intelligent on average," we are merely saying their ratio is really, really poor. With time and responsible policy, we could greatly help them, bringing them into a 21st century future they can actually sustain. That's what actual compassion would dictate, not the cheap, fraudulent signaling typical leftists do regarding the issue.

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      [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Who, InitiumNovum or xXxLuvRothbard69xXx?

      I don't consider InitiumNovum an insincere interlocutor, and if he was being coy in an instance, I would think it was to serve some higher, sincere purpose. Do you have examples you can provide?

      The other guy does seem hysterical and not worth spending much time on.

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        [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yeah, I could have clarified my comments and responded to any questions in that /r/Ireland thread, but I suspect many of those people don't accept any hereditarianism to start with.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Can you provide sources for this please. Particularly the standard deviation point.

        [–]jesuit666 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Did you find the source in 2 hours?

        [–]Cobmojo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        To be honest, I seen the most racism in this sub than any other. Although, I don't follow other Altright subs.

        [–]CyberDan42 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I take it they haven't read Black Rednecks and White Liberals...

        [–]dissidentrhetoric 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I can actually appreciate this sort of discussion and line of argument without resorting to childish and silly terms like racist and nazi.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Your appreciation for bullshit is not a virtue chum

        [–]TheGreatRohRohnator 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Looks like borders are needed in the transition minarchist state.

        [–]MakeThePieBiggerMurray Rothbard 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        That is exclusively of_ice_and_rock. They take only one person's comments as a representative.

        [–]Cobmojo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        That's not true, I can link you to some comments if you'd like?

        [–]MakeThePieBiggerMurray Rothbard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I'm talking specifically about the picture. Look at the outlines of the name. each one is xf_xxx_xxd_xxxk.

        [–]Cobmojo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The fact is that this kind of stuff is all over this sub. And I get it, it's partially to do with the mods not interfering. But the criticism from the other subs still stands and is a valid one.

        [–]_Mike_Smash_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Your sub and its posters here are just being brigaded upon by a sizeable few from /r/Ireland

        This is nothing new it happens a lot and why the reddit admins insisted all links to other subs on /r/Ireland contain the np. link through.

        However, what usually happens is that subsequent posters will reply in thread and post direct links to the sub to be brigaded, as they did in this instance.

        There's rumours that the clique of brigaders from /r/Ireland also use a discord channel to organise themselves when brigading and vote manipulating.

        Just mentioning so you are aware.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (64子コメント)

        Pls mods can we start banning them, they have ruined any and all discussion

        [–]NESIRGNIKNeo-Reactionary 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Out of the 5 mods, 3 are openly altright or at least fellow travelers. The other two seem to be right libertarians. Why on earth would they ban us?

        [–]aletoledojustice derives freedom 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (21子コメント)

        If we're going to start banning people that believe in IQ differences between races and cultures, then I think probably 75% of this community will be gone.

        I mean, I can see how this is being called racist, but it's in reference to IQ. If people didn't get so hung up on the validity of IQ, then these kind of insults wouldn't matter to them. Kinda like if someone calls you a Sriracha hater, it doesn't really bother you.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (20子コメント)

        My point is not that I personally am offended by their stupidity, but imagine say that before you were exposed to libertarian philosophy you looked at this sub and saw some troglodyte rambling on about IQ differences between Germanic and non-germanic European peoples. It's unrepresentative, and creates a barrier between the unexposed and this genuinely worthwhile belief system.

        The issue isn't that we need to remove anyone who believes in this IQ difference (I don't have an opinion, never considered it, don't see what it has to do with libertarianism) but we need to adopt a policy to 1. Remove those who are hindering and derailing discussion and 2. Be conscious of what we are allowing our philosophy to be associated with

        My 2 cents

        [–]aletoledojustice derives freedom 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (19子コメント)

        Well let me ask this:

        1. should we ban people that are polite and respectful, but hold the wrong opinions?
        2. should we ban people that make racist remarks outside this subreddit, but never make any inside this subreddit?

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (17子コメント)

        I don't believe we should ban people for either of those reasons.

        I do think that its time to take a stronger stance, the trolls aren't leaving on their own.

        The borders of our beliefs, how they are viewed by the wider social media, are becoming blurred and are spiculating into a completely unrelated, frankly oppositional worldview

        [–]aletoledojustice derives freedom 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (16子コメント)

        But the person you want to ban wasn't disrespecting anyone he was in a discussion with (that I could tell, I didn't read carefully), he just honestly believes what he is saying. We'd have to have a guideline that said "don't say that irish people have low IQs". Of course someone else will get offended by saying that south americans have low IQs or australians, etc...

        I don't see how we could have a list of approved and unapproved positions to hold. Basically we'd have to ban anyone that simply offended anyone outside this forum.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (15子コメント)

        Not necessarily a rule saying "you can't talk about genetic differences in IQ", but maybe something to keep the discussion here related to anarcho_capitalism.

        I really blame freedomain radio for this, Stef was so integral to the conversion of so many that when he went off the deep end into whatever it is he is now he dragged the spirit of this sub with him

        [–]aletoledojustice derives freedom 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

        I agree that the blame lies with Molyneux. I haven't seen anyone else pushing the IQ angle other than him. Sure the racists generally call their opponents stupid, but he was the one that framed the talking points as IQ.

        keep the discussion here related to anarcho_capitalism.

        I disagree with this. If we only talked about economics and the NAP, then it would be a boring place. It would essentially be a bunch of links to mises.org

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        It would essentially be a bunch of links to mises.org

        And we would maybe all learn something! Even if the place was less interesting that watching these chimps fling shit at eachother it would at least be playing a role that is furthering not hindering the libertarian cause

        [–]aletoledojustice derives freedom 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I would recommend /r/GoldandBlack/, they do what you suggest.

        [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I agree that the blame lies with Molyneux. I haven't seen anyone else pushing the IQ angle other than him.

        Stefan is actually quite late to HBD. Ryan and others presented it several years earlier.

        [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I really blame freedomain radio for this, Stef was so integral to the conversion of so many that when he went off the deep end

        It couldn't be that there's a logical path from one system to another? It's not like a given libertarian becoming a European nationalist after 2-5 years is that uncommon.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        That it not at all what I was saying. I am saying that it is a bad change

        [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Why is it bad?

        [–]dissidentrhetoric 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Put your fingers in your eyes and cry.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        please try to appreciate my argument m8

        [–]dissidentrhetoric 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        The Irish were slaves and were heavily oppressed by the English government and monarchy. A lot of them were sent to the US against their will. Are you aware of that?

        An interesting article: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/27/1265498/-The-slaves-that-time-forgot

        To be fair a lot of what he is saying about the Celts is accurate. I don't think I agree with his notion of Germanic superiority though.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I am aware of Irish history.

        My point is that this type of conduct is not representative of libertarianism, it has nothing to do with libertarianism, it shouldn't be in a libertarian subreddit.

        [–]dissidentrhetoric 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Not everything a libertarian says is representative of libertarianism. I could discuss all number of subjects and a lot of them have no relation to my views about government and economics.

        [–]Fastball14 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Your "argument" is that you are a whiny bitch and the internet people are big meanies and they hurt your feelings.

        How about you go suck on a tailpipe?

        Faggot.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Were you not hugged as a child?

        [–]etheraelAnarcho-Capitalist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (31子コメント)

        Banning them isn't going to solve anything. As it stands, they're right on certain isolated details, but wrong when all is taken into account. I think the best way to deal with them is discussion, as when it becomes clear that the underpinnings of their position reduces to little more than evolutionary vestigial tribalism when all other variables are corrected for, eventually they're going to either at least stop pushing their position, or abandon it entirely.

        [–]SnakesoverEaglesThis is an alt right sub 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (30子コメント)

        Or win.

        [–]etheraelAnarcho-Capitalist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (29子コメント)

        You have to be right to win, you're not, so you won't.

        The debate always ends up something like this when you really take everything into consideration.

        [–]SnakesoverEaglesThis is an alt right sub 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (28子コメント)

        Your underestimation isn't doing you any favors, so don't start acting like a pigeon that is playing chess.

        [–]etheraelAnarcho-Capitalist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (27子コメント)

        You refusing to accept simple logic and fact doesn't change those facts, nobody is underestimating your position, we understand it completely, when considered in entirety with other facts that you just refuse to acknowledge, exactly like you accuse SJW snowflakes of refusing to acknowledge the facts of HBD, it's simply actually wrong. One day you'll figure that out, or you'll get sick of people telling you it's wrong and explaining why over and over again, and you'll stop bothering everyone else with it.

        Until then, we're not going to stop correcting you.

        [–]SnakesoverEaglesThis is an alt right sub 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (26子コメント)

        don't start acting like a pigeon that is playing chess

        There it is.

        [–]etheraelAnarcho-Capitalist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (25子コメント)

        Just repeating yourself, doesn't make it true.

        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Bellcurves2.svg/800px-Bellcurves2.svg.png https://rgambler.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/male_female_bell_curve_.png

        Those are the facts. I acknowledge them completely, what you don't acknowledge is that those distributions are representative of human capital, which is an economic asset. If you would discard from the economy all the human capital except the one under the intersection of white and male, you are necessarily accepting massive liabilities by the lower end of those curves, and discarding even more massive assets by discarding the higher end of all the other curves. Proposing that said discarding happen at the behest and enforcement of the state is amplifying the idiocy and negative consequences of the above.

        I really don't know how to make it any simpler for you. We get it, you don't. It is a simple economic equation. Wake up.

        [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        Just for the record, that first image is a generation of normal curves of arbitrary and identical variance. In reality, the ethnicities also differ in variance.

        If you would discard from the economy all the human capital except the one under the intersection of white and male

        It's not being discarded. What's being said is that these ethnicities operate more efficiently in their cultural centers. You can still have trade and diplomacy between these ethno-nations, and such trade would be conducted more efficiently than if you forced them to intermix.

        [–]etheraelAnarcho-Capitalist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        Just for the record, that first image is a generation of normal curves of arbitrary and identical variance. In reality, the ethnicities also differ in variance.

        I couldn't find an image that illustrated both the difference in the curves, as well as the difference in variance for the races, do you have one?

        It's not being discarded.

        It's being forcibly excluded from the local economy, that is at least by some measure "discarded".

        What's being said is that these ethnicities operate more efficiently in their cultural centers.

        Then why was Apartheid South Africa and the Belgian Congo so infinitely superior to the present state thereof in both cases, if ethnicities operate more efficiently purely in their cultural centers? Why was post Japanese / Western intervention Korea so enormously more developed than its insular ethnic enclave status beforehand? Why was Japan infinitely more powerful after the Meiji restoration compared to its prior insular shogunate? What about the effects of European colonisation on North America, Australia, New Zealand, South America, Canada... The list goes on.

        You can still have trade and diplomacy between these ethno-nations, and such trade would be conducted more efficiently than if you forced them to intermix.

        That's a false dichotomy, nobody is claiming that any ethnicities ought to be forced to intermix, merely that they should not be forced not to. Also, you haven't at all objectively proven that trade between ethnostates is "more efficient" than trade between free societies.

        [–]SnakesoverEaglesThis is an alt right sub -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (12子コメント)

        you are necessarily accepting massive liabilities by the lower end of those curves

        So basically you've never even heard of eugenics. Have fun playing with your strawmen.

        [–]etheraelAnarcho-Capitalist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

        I've never even heard of eugenics, despite just providing diagrams illustrating the effects of natural selection on isolated environments over thousands of years.

        Does it hurt to be this dumb? Actually I think I understand now why you cling so desperately only to your race and gender as the relevant factor, and you're so completely terrified of the idea of competition from other races and genders in the upper end of their respective bell curve. Because you're in the shit tier middle lower end of ours, just like billions of other useless plebs.

        Identifies as superior indeed, so pathetic. Thomas Sowell is infinitely superior to you, get over it.

        [–]SnakesoverEaglesThis is an alt right sub -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Just calling yourself correct, doesn't make that true either. That's why I called you a pigeon playing chess.

        We get it, you don't.

        You just keep repeating yourself. Are you trying to create reality through chanting?

        [–]etheraelAnarcho-Capitalist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        No, I have nothing else to add, I laid the case out completely, you continuing to ignore it just makes my point about your emotional, irrational attachment to throwback conservative LARPing. So, in the absence of any more arguments or data from you, I'll leave it at that.

        [–]SnakesoverEaglesThis is an alt right sub 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Why would our alt right mods ban the alt right?

        [–]LiamJacksonSmithEpistocratic Capitalist -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Fuck off to /r/GoldandBlack and don't come back.

        [–]Pinochet-Heli-ToursFree market security solutions -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (10子コメント)

        Why do you care about what the left think? Why appease them?

        [–]FreeBroccoliVoluntaryist 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (9子コメント)

        I care if somebody who otherwise might have been open to libertarianism is turned off by others misrepresenting it.

        [–]xXxLuvRothbard69xXxregulate me baby[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Exactly what I am trying to say. Thank you, I was starting to think that this place was only inhabited by pseudointellectual troglodytes.

        [–]onlinefreelancer -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        I think people are more turned off by delusional racial fantasists, instead of racial realists who have data and science to back them up.

        Also, if someone engages in a talk about "racism", you know you are dealing with a leftist moron.

        [–]FreeBroccoliVoluntaryist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Because racism doesn't actually exist?

        [–]onlinefreelancer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        Exactly.

        People form opinions of others based on the aggregate of their experiences with others.

        This is all a part of rational economization which makes one a functional human being who navigates reality as efficiently as is possible.

        With blacks, specifically, it is exceedingly clear that:

        • no successful black country existed, ever

        • countries that had white rule, but majority black population, are now undergoing societal, cultural and economic collapse

        • black minorities in majority-white countries are dysfunctional and fill the prisons; this is because low IQ is criminogenic

        Now, people may not know all of these facts, but just a couple of personal interactions with mudskins will inform their viewpoint.

        And having an accurate viewpoint means that you have an accurate viewpoint that aligns with reality. It does not mean that you are a "racist". This term was specifically designed by marxists to undermine western civilization.

        [–]NoGardE 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Mansa Musa's Mali. The Zulu. Both strong civilizations, with a strong culture. Just because they eventually fell doesn't stop them being real.

        You are engaging in collectivist thought. It is easier than individualism because it lets you judge people quickly. It also is flawed, because you judge people too quickly, on uncontrollable features rather than chosen actions. If you spend the effort to get to know several people from groups you dislike, and especially the effort to listen to their life experiences and the way they make decisions, you may change your mind on some of these issues. To assume another human has no possible value is to lose out on potentially valuable and profitable experiences.

        [–]onlinefreelancer -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        You are engaging in collectivist thought.

        You are engaging in NAXALT fallacy.

        [–]NoGardE 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Naxalt is about behavior of self-selection and self-identified groups. It does not apply in this context.

        [–]kurokamifrAnarcho-monarchist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        the first marxist using "racism" was called Léon Trotski

        [–]FreeBroccoliVoluntaryist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You are not going to agree with me, but even if your view of reality is correct, judging an individual based on statistics of their demographic is anti-individualist and still to be avoided by libertarians.

        [–]GuyFromV -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Oh fucking no.

        [–]YamayamauchimanNAP -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Insulting people as racists is not an argument.

        If you care what other subs think of this sub you are wasting your time. Try /r/politics instead.

        I rather surround myself with alt-right people and have an honest conversation than deal with the sofistry you see in any regular sub like the one you posted.

         

        Not to mention that none of his arguments are being disproven.

        [–]Jovial_BardCapitalism is progress -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        As retarded as alt-righters are, they sure are smarter than the folks over at r/Ireland.

        Some of the comments on that thread in the OP are fucking insane

        [–]of_bronze_and_firethe incoercible impulse to overcome without any determined goal -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        [–]FEDORA_SWAG_BROEsoteric Kekist -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        CUCK ALERT