Just remember.No matter how may times one can pawn the "feminist" or any women,it will ultimately fail. I see the anti femenists/traditionalists constantly trying to show that they are "right" .They ultimately don't even understand that it doesn't matter how right they are. These "feminists" will never go "oh we were wrong" apologize or make up for it.They, in general have no concept of intergrity or empathy.It's ok if it doesn't affect them or has no consequence. Mgtow has the right idea of taking matters into our own hands, as much as possible.Not waiting or begging for some change.