Heather McGhee on the Ezra Klein Show

Heather McGhee is the president of the think tank Demos, and one of the most interesting thinkers today on the intersection of racism and economic inequality.

Among Heather's most interesting arguments is her belief that "the left will have to challenge its own orthodoxy that defines racism as something that wholly benefits whites and solely victimizes people of color." In this podcast, she explains why. 

Heather returned to the Ezra Klein Show after the 2016 election to talk Trump, race, and empathy. Listen to that conversation here.

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