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FD Blame me CLogger and banned permanently.. (self.EliteDangerous)

immakingfx-=AED=- [I.B.] over 2000 pk が 投稿

So.. that was a good night when i recieved this FirstLetter Hmm... may be im soo bad man, but not for this sh.t. I ticketed back.. and recieved this: SecondLetter I dont know what to say. But im sure something wrong with FD. Really wrong.

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[–]WinterborneTEStarlear [AA] 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (56子コメント)

Judging by that, you've been warned about it before, so if it was an error you should have brought it up back when you were first warned and not this late in the game.

[–]-Comrade- -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (30子コメント)

AED IS NOT A COMBAT LOGGER.

[–]MrSilk13642S!LK, Adle's Armada 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Lol yes he is. He's combat logged on us in Eravate. Good riddance.

[–]Fleecer_IB 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Proof Billy! We need proof!)))

[–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (16子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Q03PDLClM

[–]DrFreezIrkDrFreez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (14子コメント)

1 March 2015...Do not tell what day now?

[–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (13子コメント)

It shows a precedence for exploiting.

If he'll do it once why wouldn't he continue to do it?

He also used shield hacks in the past. Good riddance, AED is someone who won't be missed.

[–]Fleecer_IB 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

In addition to the video for 2015 (to crash) evidence is no more, especially about the hacks ... so that there will be enough to lie on the whole reddit;)

[–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

The people who matter already know he used hacks and have seen it first hand, I could care less if people want to come in here and defend him.

He's banned and should have been a long time ago.

[–]TheCodePRTruthful PR - Player kill count Over 9000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Dont get me wrong, hes shady as fuck but if he got banned for his shady as fuck antics I would be cheering for FDEV but I really cannot see him as a Combat Logger. Certainly not one that does it prolifically enough to get a ban over all the other cunts who log daily.

He rarely dies because he always runs early and has I think at last time on twitch about 5billion in the bank

Code PR

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    [–]HaLoALoHaLoALo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    shield hacks

    Where are proof, Billy? We need proof~

    [–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Sorry, I don't speak gibberish.

    [–]ajaxError 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Unfortunately, it sounds like whining noob :)

    [–]Fleecer_IB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Even older could not find (the more so because then crash the game) and more, he has not been noticed)))

    [–]HaLoALoHaLoALo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Where are proof, Billy? We need proof~

    [–]DrFreezIrkDrFreez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Have proofs?

    [–]masterblaster0 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Frontier disagrees. Not the first time he's been banned either so the guy is either extremely unlucky or ...

    [–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Q03PDLClM

    [–]masterblaster0 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I PLAYED CHESS WITH TED BUNDY. HE WAS NOT A MURDERER!!!11

    [–]Got_no_fans 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    He is A FRIEND!

    [–]Linoa06Linoa06 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So that magically excuses him from all the griefing, Clogging, shield exploits and sneaking his way in non PVP groups?

    [–]masterblaster0 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    All the proof Frontier needs to un-ban him.

    [–]DrFreezIrkDrFreez -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I think I need to do another video where degrade FD support. With mass reports.

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      [–]masterblaster0 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (16子コメント)

      Unfortunately we have confirmed repeated unsportsmanlike behaviour with regards to disconnecting during online gameplay.

      Given how tolerant Frontier are you must have been really abusing the system.

      [–]stonegiant4 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (15子コメント)

      Exactly. Fdev wouldn't give a shit of you're clogging against npcs in solo, but when you make it another player's problem then you make them take notice.

      [–]JonticlesRinzler o7o7o7 | Thank you for not cheating 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      but when you make it another player's problem then you make them take notice.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      [–]WinterborneTEStarlear [AA] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Top kek, that.

      [–]WinterborneTEStarlear [AA] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (12子コメント)

      Fdev wouldn't give a shit of you're clogging against npcs in solo

      FD has said that combat logging against NPC's is just as actionable as doing it to players. Avoiding risk and death in the game is considered an exploit. It might be harder to get caught with nobody to report you for it, but it's absolutely not something they don't care about.

      [–]CMDR-A-Honcho(⌐▀͡ ̯ʖ▀) 乁(ಥ౪ಥ;)ㄏ GPL are Nazis 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I bet that's what he's banned for

      [–]beetlebootbootBeetleBootBoot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Can you even put up an example of someone being banned by logging out when attacked by an NPC? It sounds like a super low offense (if anything ) and not even noticeable to the outside community unless someone is specifically pointed out.

      For one, it's completely confined to the player pilot's instance and not affiliated with the online mode remotely. It as a whole doesn't effect other people (against NPC's I mean, players absolutely it effects them).

      And even then I've had my fair share of being in a battle with an NPC wing of an Anaconda/Python group, and having to step away to do something else urgent; should I be worried about being banned just because I have to take my little bro walking around a couple of blocks to his godmother? Would be ridiculous, and as an added incentive to doing it (against NPC's) I don't want to lose my investment of time and my NPC pilot that I've spent the past 2 weeks training to Deadly because I leave the keyboard. There's no way to regulate it when I'm playing alone except by Frontier, and if I can avoid losing all that investment in time absolutely I will.

      Credit cost I would take, but not our time, the most valuable commodity we have.

      Should make clear in online mode I can understand why it can be argued if you log against players, though you'd have to do it a lot to be noticeable, even then it requires you to be logging in proximity of players. I doubt Frontier at any capacity seeks out people combat logging against NPC's, players sure if they get reported by them, but not NPC's.

      I doubt they really care otherwise if you log against NPC's, even if they supposedly take a stance on it. And admittedly not all PvP is consensual, so someone can be avoiding death by players simply by not wanting to participate at all.

      Edit: Though if that's the case they could simply play in Solo or Private if they don't want to interact with players for their session.

      Really, it's a case by case basis. :I

      [–]Elite-PhoenixPhoenix | NaCl | Thank you for not cheating | 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It doesn't matter if other players are around or not. Combat logging is cheating, period. The only reason we have this situation is because of the networking for the game. Any other game, you leave it in combat you will find yourself dead. So there are no excuses.

      [–]stonegiant4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Exactly. Even if they have policy about it, the man hours of labor for implementing an anti-npc logging detection system, let alone just having a human handing out bans and dealing with appeals about it would cost $$ that could be better spent making more money (paint jobs, expansions ect).

      Edit: idk what the minimum wage in England is, but I'm pretty sure it's more than fdev cares to spend just to get rid of paying customers from their game.

      [–]CloudhwkSidewinder Bumper Cars 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I have CL'd against particularly persistent NPC magically matching my 50LY FSD in their FDL's

      Getting shitty over Cl'ing against npc is silly and I welcome FDev to attempt to hold a ban against me

      Benefits of living in Australia I suppose

      [–]DaBulderBulder 【AKB☆E】 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Where CL is shutting down the game forcefully?

      If you abide by the timer then it's okay according to FDEV

      [–]stonegiant4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I like how there are fucking hardliners against CL'ing that come around and down vote every single person they see who admits that they CL against npcs.

      They usually hate CL'ing so bad because 'muhimmursion' but then don't get the immersion break of being harassed by an eagle all the way to sag a in a 50ly jumpaconda.

      [–]stonegiant4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      The punishment for logging is being forced to solo, if you've only played in solo then how do you enforce such policy? Ban the account of a paying customer? Sounds like bad business.

      [–]WinterborneTEStarlear [AA] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The punishment for logging is being forced to solo

      No, it's being forced into a galaxy you can't interact with. There's a pretty major difference.

      [–]PoeTheWonderCatPoethewondercat, Xbox scrub 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I think he means how do you punish someone who combat logs in solo, or then in BGS banned solo? There is only solo one can go.

      [–]Deathwatch101M.K.Potter 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      No its also a BGS ban which means those guys who use the exploitable mechanics from solo/private can't do it.

      [–]Danhulud 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ban the account of a paying customer? Sounds like bad business.

      Not really. It will say in the T&C not to exploit/hack and if caught will be punished, and that goes for literally every piece of digital software going; game or not a game. Sounds like someone is a combat logger.

      [–]ManOfFlesh101Earth Ultimatum IV. | GCI 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      There's a video of you combat logging in the elite combat loggers subreddit. But the second letter about "consistency", I don't know.

      [–]StefanDefqon1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      hahaha i logged once in elite it whas a long time ago also i know loads that are logging maybe 10 times a day why are they still playing there are a few extreme loggers and they not banned.

      [–]inrideo 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      That's the equivalent of "Officer, why'd you stop me when he was speeding too?!"

      [–]Twinkie60M. Saber 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Why dont they just play solo?

      [–]AnotherVoiceED 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Story is repeating itself it seems

      https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/4ca4az/beware_of_cmdr_aed_at_the_merope_5c_barnacle/d1gvo0a/?st=ix23ug8j&sh=690a739a

      [–]masterblaster0 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Interesting. And as we've seen in this thread, they instantly make the assumption that they are being targeted by multiple reports.

      If this banning has occurred more than once you have to wonder why? Protestation of innocence is not enough, there is clearly something going on at his end to get him flagged.

      [–]InevitableMrPanda*Name Redacted* 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      I'd be more inclined to believe this if this thread wasn't filled with poorly worded "he didn't do nothin" responses that are all about as poorly written as the OP. Combine that with Frontier's complete refusal to deal with combatlogging I'm not really inclined to believe him.

      [–]mobiuspcMobius/ Official Ambassador 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Frontier will not revoke the ban simply because someone within the pvp community has supplied irrefutable evidence that he has become a new low within the game we all enjoy.

      [–]Elite-PhoenixPhoenix | NaCl | Thank you for not cheating | 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Only Frontier have all the metrics and I think if we are going to ask them to tackle combat logging we'll have to have some trust that the action they take is correct. We may learn truths about other players.

      Who knows how other people play all the time? I wonder how many people feel free to log when no one else is looking. Its not like we can know who is doing what every moment in game.

      What does seem amiss though is that other higher profile loggers are reportedly still playing in Open. They may too have been given a ban but haven't made it public.

      When it comes to combat logging I do think an escalation of account action should be implemented. First warnings, then a temp ban to Solo, if it continues to happen a longer ban, and then in persistant cases a permaban. Perhaps thats what happened here?

      [–]stonegiant4 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Dude it says right in the letter that it's about c logging against other players, you where playing in such a way that infringes on other players experience and therefore you should be banned. The fact that they let you keep playing solo instead of bricking your account is much nicer than I usually expect from game developers (looking at you Sony&microsoft)

      [–]Netskimmer 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      lol, rekt

      [–]MagnusTBorovitz 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fucks given by FDev: 0

      It's over man. Let it go.

      [–]VoggixVoggix [EIC] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

      [–]CMDR_MUSKETEERMUSKETEER 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Combat loggers are getting banned? About time.

      [–]Volgrand 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      That is funny.

      I remember you, -=AED=-. Cmdr Volgrand there. When you and your mates went to block Obidian orbital in Maia I was among the first ones to go fight you off in my combat Courier (you may remember me as "that noob that crashed against my ship and died"). I loled so much with that.

      I have heard before people complaining about you combat logging, but I can't say I've seen that myself before. If you believe those accusations were false, try to gather proof of that. However, if you happened to really have been combat logging for a long time... then sorry, but I believe FD are right on banning you from open play.

      Anyway, if that's a false accusation (and I hope it is, you are one of the few SDC members I have ever enjoyed playing with), do your best to prove it.

      Cheers.

      [–]EvomoAzamo 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      You guys going against FD.. Really? Everything we do in game is logged. So they can see every time you combat log or fire a laser or whatever. When they say it has happened many times over the course of months. Then he has done it many times and he got what he deserved. Everyone knows that CL is not allowed. Enjoy solo or buy another copy. Case Closed!

      [–]DrFreezIrkDrFreez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      They lie. Recently, on reddit was the theme, where the player who is away from the bubble got a warning about CLogging. They do not have any logs or they are wrong.

      [–]waterlubber42waterlubber (Port E:D to GNU/Linux!) 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It probably takes time for them to look stuff up.

      If it's against NPCS, I wouldn't really like them banning people for it. But against players? Absolutely.

      [–]HyznorZarunoi 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I assume that the people that complain now are not the same ones that wanted FDev to start punishing combatloggers.
      right?...

      [–]sensai25Exar SPIRE 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Play solo now :p

      [–]Necromonicus 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Where there's smoke, there's fire?

      [–]CMDR-A-Honcho(⌐▀͡ ̯ʖ▀) 乁(ಥ౪ಥ;)ㄏ GPL are Nazis 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      F

      [–]DiamondWolf332DarkPhoenix332 |Xbox and PC| Moderator of /r/EliteOne 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well... RIP

      [–]CMDRToleranceCareFace 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I was directed to this conversation.. and I must say..

      I am ABSOLUTELY!! disguisted by all of you.

      Nobody mentioned bacon! BACON!! http://www.baconsizzling.com/

      [–]GoinXwell1RedDragonSwords|PalCon Xbox Fleet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      LOL

      [–]BaconPancakes20 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I dunno why people are trying to defend this. FDev have proof of his actions, no matter what any of you say. "But.." no, look, just take your hands off the keyboard. It's a nice thought, but it means nothing.

      [–]DarkZenoDarkZeno (Imperial Legate, 13th Legion) 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Well, AED, you do combat log. You've done it against the 13th Legion on several occasions. Sorry this happened to you dude but seriously, you cannot play ignorant on this.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Q03PDLClM

      [–]KuzSan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      let's see how much times peole will include this vid on this thread) Now it's 3 times)

      [–]immakingfx-=AED=- [I.B.] over 2000 pk[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      13th legion.. this gang of impotents? Don't make me laugh )

      [–]CMDR_ArguendoArguendo| 1 confirmed kill 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You're not banned from the game. You're just restricted to Solo mode without being able to affect the BGS. I guess you could call it Elite Solo Offline mode :)

      [–]Sprinter2012 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Baahaha, this guy was griefing at the last CG so I have zero sympathy. Bye!

      [–]immakingfx-=AED=- [I.B.] over 2000 pk[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      My Insuransesr think this Clogger loves to die )))

      [–]gluehlochcombat logger (241 confirmed logs) 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Not an evidence. But it is hard to believe that you are a combat logger.

      [–]Jpotter145Jason Petter 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Doubtful - as an Aisling supporter AED is a regular player killer in Cubeo. AED has been a regular since PP inception and is on numerous KOS lists - he repeatedly has been reported CL'ing when confronted by fighters non-traders - as well as suspicious behavior indicative of a LAN toggle switch or some kind of firewall/port blocking nonsense (after low waking he'll disappear from SC and will magically reappear right by a station to drop from SC to dock/rearm).

      I've witnessed enough myself to say GOOD RIDDANCE and I'm sure it is looooooonnnggg overdue.

      [–]shkolotronx -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      New evidence? but words?

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        [–]XariezB.Rezal 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        If this is true, I still see no reason for a permament ban BUT for a very extended temporary ban.

        However, if it isn't, as I don't know you, its interesting that FDev would do this.

        [–]Linoa06Linoa06 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Do you think this guy would ever learn? He's been warned before after all. It's not like this is news to him.

        [–]Arnge_Katoom 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        following the final warning issued previously... you were warned

        Here's an oldie for you, enjoy https://youtu.be/kJCKwqyR7KY#t=0m30s

        [–]FlashHardwood 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Stop CLogging up the sub. G'bye.

        [–]SplodeyDopeSplodey Dope [EIC] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        F

        [–]BreakfastMelonBreakfastMelon - The most important pilot of the day. 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Respect

        [–]xeres01Xeres 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I'm not an active PvPer, but i play in open almost all the time. Threads like this scare the crap out of me. I have been fighting a GPU issue for a while now that causes a buffer crash of some manner. my game crashes pretty consistently if I don't reboot from time to time due to this GPU RAM issue. Makes me wonder if my account is accumulating these mysterious CLogs as well...

        [–]Linoa06Linoa06 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The dude is a known griefer. I wouldn't worry too much. However you do raise a valid point, they should make it so a clog or even a crash kills your ship or gives you some in-game penalty, enough that no one would willingly clog anyway.

        [–]RedLineUKRedLineUK | Resident Shit Poster 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        http://stalindidnothingwrong.com/

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          [–]StuartGTGTᴜᴋ 🚀🌌 Thx 4 not cheating[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          [–]TheLordCrimson 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (11子コメント)

          They actually got one boys!

          SDC actually managed to shame FD into doing something against cheaters. Say what you will about them... but at least they can rally to fix a few problems... If they get game media coverage.

          [–]mobiuspcMobius/ Official Ambassador 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          griefers griefing a griefer.

          [–]JonticlesRinzler o7o7o7 | Thank you for not cheating 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (9子コメント)

          AED is not a logger though. This exact same "automated system" has flagged Finegan from AA and Nitek [PL] as being combat loggers, when everyone knows they are the exact opposite.

          Meanwhile the most notorious loggers still fly around in open, taskkilling like there's no tomorrow.

          [–]TheLordCrimson 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Huh... well that's crap. To be fair this guy's extreme denial makes him seem suspicious, but if it's just an automated system being shiette.. then idk.

          The game should still just kill you if you log out during combat... people with crashes won't get this problem and kids who don't want to lose their precious credits will be forced to learn how high-waking works... after which that needs a fix...

          [–]JonticlesRinzler o7o7o7 | Thank you for not cheating 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Unfortunately p2p makes a lot of things like this impossible.

          The whole thing is just a shit-show, and I'm really disappointed with this particular case. I know that AED hates loggers just as much as I do, but it's amazing what mass-reports can do against an account. Same thing happened with Finegan and Nitek. Never logged in their lives, but somehow Frontier has flagged them. Probably because they never bother to look at evidence, as my investigation proved.

          [–]salawatbscs 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Can't say I'm surprised. What did the community think would happen? Push a company into doing something a product isn't architected for.... And you get a hacky, unstable, inaccurate kludge.

          If you can't tolerate the CombatLoggers and move on...then enjoy Friend Computer Citizen!

          Moral: Technology enables without discrimination. If you are not okay with the consequences of having a system used against you, either remain silent and chock it up to avoiding a Frankenstein's monster scenario, or make it yourself as best you can to avoid the pitfalls with the understanding that once you let it go and put it in someone else's hands, there is no taking it back.

          [–]TheLordCrimson 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          it's amazing what mass-reports can do against an account

          Well that's just depressing...

          Unfortunately p2p makes a lot of things like this impossible.

          It makes the whole eve thing impossible where the ship stays around after they log off, but one would think that it does nothing against your ship just counting as ''destroyed''. If the game checks whether or not you where in the ''combat state'' when you logged off and destroys you or not based on that the P2P connection shouldn't be all that relevant, nothing short of hacking the game (client side) would help you in that case. However it does mean that people who crash a lot and/or have an unstable connection will end up losing a bunch of credits from time to time which is usually the argument people make against this suggestion. I personally don't think that would be as big of a deal but evidently people value their in-game credits higher than they value a game where cheating is easy and rampant.

          [–]CloudhwkSidewinder Bumper Cars 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          No I value my credits higher than bad netcode

          [–]ElethiomelZakalweElethiomel Zakalwe | AA | Thank you for not cheating 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Unfortunately p2p makes a lot of things like this impossible.

          I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure. Obviously any sort of system where you give one player's client control over another player's simulation cannot be done, and there is no central server to run the sim either, but you are still connected to the authentication/transaction server that knows when you log in, log out, jump, etc. If you are in combat and the you disconnect from the authentication server (NOT, importantly, from other players' clients, in which case you would simply disappear or find yourself back in the main menu with no rebuy penalty) the game could just give you a rebuy.

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            [–]ryan_mryan_m17 | SDC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Don't get me wrong, I have no love for AED because he's annoying as fuck to fight against, but I would be VERY shocked to learn he actually combat logged. I've never seen him in anything other than a basically unkillable Cutter, and I know he has billions and billions.

            Not saying he absolutely didn't log, but like with Nitek, I would be very very surprised to learn they actually combat logged.

            [–]BreakfastMelonBreakfastMelon - The most important pilot of the day. 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Finegan, of all people? Holy shit.

            I'm not the most familiar with Nitek, but he's a well-known PvP player and very active in the community, so I'd struggle to believe he'd ever log.

            I still find it crazy how the data on their end can throw out a seemingly decent number of false-positives, whereas videos of people blatantly logging from streams and so on are ignored.

            [–]Nomad_EnigmaNomad Enigma | Interstellar Basterds 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

            /u/frontier_support

            [–]CtriC'tri 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

            If Frontier_support follow other gaming customer support practices, they'll have a policy against publicly commenting on tickets with individuals. Privacy and all that.

            They also can't reveal much in the way of the data they have without giving hints to those that would purposefully and deliberately seek to compromise their ability to detect exploits.

            I wouldn't expect a response from them in this thread, if anyone were to comment it would probably be one of the community management team.

            Edit: Actually I am curious to know if in general circumstances the above emails mean that the user is unable to play in Solo Mode (which is an online element of Elite Dangerous) or that the user is just prevented from playing in Group and Online modes (which is another way of reading "unable to interact with other players").

            Generally speaking, are bans that restrict players to Solo, rather than flat out account termination, a thing that can happen to redress certain EULA breaking behaviour?

            [–]StuartGTGTᴜᴋ 🚀🌌 Thx 4 not cheating[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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            [–]Bfedorov91BMAC1191 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Did you give yourself the gold? I find it very difficult to believe they just ban people for no reason. They have logs.

            And your lack of explanation in this post just makes it look worse and you appear to be a baby.

            [–]51TH-FireFox13FireFox13 [51TH] | Negative Karma Collector 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            AED a combat logger... MOUAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH... Excellent...

            Totally nonsense...

            [–]TheLifeOfARockSKETCHEES 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            After watching all of these youtube videos of him combat logging and then reading people say there is "no proof". I believe logs should be released of the specific player (if they exist) but I believe these youtube videos are sufficient proof since there are many.

            Good job to FD regardless. I agree people exploiting game mechanics should be banned. I more believe a temp ban should be placed as a warning e.g a 1 week ban. But I also believe that you should fix it so players physically can't combat log. I.e. if a player is under attack they cannot log out and even a DC will keep there ship in play for up to 60 seconds. Simple fix I think.

            Both sides are wrong on this. FD fix the mechanic. Cmdr shouldntve been CL.

            That's my view

            [–]PlankWithANailIn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I love the double standards in this thread just because AED is an internet friend of some of the posters. "FD COMBAT LOGGING IS RUINING THE GAME BAN THEM!!!!" then when it happens "NO WE MEANT THE OTHER COMBAT LOGGERS!!!".

            [–]ultra_sabremansabreman 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Lol. Sucks to actually have to deal with consequences doesn't it? You shat in your bed, now go sleep in it.

            [–]Elite-PhoenixPhoenix | NaCl | Thank you for not cheating | 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            lol thats a colourful metaphor :D

            [–]Linoa06Linoa06 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'd be inclined to believe this is a false positive if this guy's rep didn't precede him. But c'mon, known griefer gets banned for clogging, pretty hard to be convincing right?

            [–]BirthHoleHKW 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            As they say in Vietnamese: Là một tinh ranh là niềm vui cho đến khi bạn bị bắt

            [–]Necromonicus 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            What does this have to do with how much tripe you put in a good pho?

            [–]ProfNinjadeerN1njadeer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Who else has been perma'd? I'm ootl from not playing for a while.

            AED isn't a logger from my experience.

            [–]Donaldcrack 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This guy known well for being pirate and one of top PvPer in elite, he do really like to abuse EG Union, but soo far never saw him combat logging. As i see it, frontier instead of not care about any cases, but everyone on who they get report, well played frontire, you suck hard again, well, i did not expected anything else tho...

            [–]CaptainHoytCaptainHoyt|Pro MLG High Waker|Xbox| 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            its so sad that its almost humorous, FDEV finally get shamed into taking action then just ban all the wrong people. first Nitek now you, i want Fdev to actually present the evidence because theirs something really wrong with how they determine who is a CL.

            [–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            AED is a known exploiters and even used to use shield hacks, don't act like he's the face of PvP.

            [–]shkolotronx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Shield hacks? Don`t tighten that stuff

            [–]Linoa06Linoa06 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            He's a known griefer. Can't say if that's a false positive or not, but the guy fights pretty low, his rep is fairly shit, it's an in character thing for him to do.

            But I agree that they need to make their ban system more accountable, and come up with an ingame way to deter clogs. Don't act like AED is a top PVPer, but i'm not saying false positives don't happen either. But hey, a broken clock is right twice a day.

            [–]mobiuspcMobius/ Official Ambassador 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (12子コメント)

            That is what happens when you continue to fuck off the community, you was already banned from our group for griefing and it looks like the griefing community supplied plenty of evidence that you was combat logging to frontier to get your account banned.

            about time frontier began to enforce their EULA.

            happy xmas.

            [–]Linoa06Linoa06 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

            I love how TheCodePR made that really aggressive statement about how PVE sucks and Mobius is scared to go into PVE, but then deleted his statement. That's really ironical, was he afraid of getting shit back? I mean the dude flat out says

            "Sure if we sneak back in with another account, you can cry huge man size tears to FDEV and they take action but thats all you got."

            And then half the PVP community wonders why they're (we're) so hated. Spot the edgelords, but pls don't lump all of us PVPers in the same basket either. Don't sneak in a PVE group and blame them for breaking their rules, that's a douchebag thing to do, u/TheCodePR.

            [–]TheCodePRTruthful PR - Player kill count Over 9000 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            HAHHAH aww.. Like I give one fuck about posts that offend.

            The post got deleted by a forum mod /u/StuartGT because people with really delicate feels got offended by words on the internet.

            I hope there is a private group available that removes this sort of danger.

            Code PR

            [–]Linoa06Linoa06 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Nope, it got removed because you behave like an idiot.

            [–]TheCodePRTruthful PR - Player kill count Over 9000 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Please get your narrative right.

            Did I delete it because I was afraid to stand by my convictions or because I behave in a way that upsets you?

            You sound confused and just a bit salty.

            Seriously thou, what shit could you give me back?

            Downvotes? HAHAHAHH Git gud

            Code PR

            [–]Linoa06Linoa06 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            ...Yep, you're behaving like a moron allright. You sound a -lot- saltier.

            [–]TheCodePRTruthful PR - Player kill count Over 9000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Great come back!

            Phew... I am glad you aren't planning on really shitting back on me.. I mean.. what would I do.. /s

            Code PR

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              [–]IHaTeD2Backer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Does that mean the code isn't allowed to take part in any non pvp / piracy discussion here on Reddit?
              I suggest to remove that big trunk of a tree that is sticking up your ass, this isn't your sub and you're not supposed to implement some nazi rules that favor your personal point of view.

              [–]StuartGTGTᴜᴋ 🚀🌌 Thx 4 not cheating[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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              [–]Volgrand -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Look Mobius, you now me: I do play in Mobius and respect the way you see your gameplay. So, just let me put this straight: If there is so much evidence, can someone post it in there? Can someone post at least one video that shows cmdr -=AED=- actually combat logging? I am fairly surprised that not a single video has been posted so far!

              I have played with AED before, and he didn't look the kind of guy that would Clog. If he did, I agree with FD acts on this, but I am still waiting for any proof to be made public.

              Cheers.

              [–]masterblaster0 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I seriously doubt Frontier will publicise their evidence. I know more studios are doing it to shut up innocence pleaders but I can't see Frontier doing that.

              [–]NitekPLNitek [pl] NaCl 1800+ Player kills 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Well I am not in the game but we still have in game politics, we could contact every pvp group out there and vouch for AED. He is necessary to this game. He is a leader of a known and important for fun group. We can't let that shit stand

              [–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              AED has been known to use shield hacks in the past and has been caught logging multiple times. He is not necessary to the game.

              [–]PlankWithANailIn 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              He is necessary to this game

              No individual is necessary to the game, especially AED. Stop defending cheaters just because they are your internet friends.

              [–]Linoa06Linoa06 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Nah, he's not necessary. You'll find another fun group to join, I'm sure. It's his fault for cheating anyway.

              [–]Salfa_AfirSalfa Afir 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              He is necessary to this game.

              Idk, I've never heard of him and I'm playing in Open. And I'm sure plenty of people never heard of him too.

              [–]cmdr_H1pp1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              AED IS NOT A COMBAT LOGGER REBANN HIM!!!

              [–]mobiuspcMobius/ Official Ambassador 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              I assume you mean un-ban him? and no need to shout.

              [–]Tankuwi -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Yes, he means "unban".

              [–]MadMikesch 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              FD, that is ridicolous to ban AED because of CL. I remember one night his Cutter was shot down 3 or 4 times. The same for Nitek. Both are completely against CL. In most PvP-Clans CL is strictly forbidden.

              MadMikesch[RoA], Co-leader Ronin of Amarak

              [–]Fleecer_IB 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              No significant proof, no witnesses, baseless report is, banned ... then why ardent loggers still not banned? Good work FD (sarcasm)

              [–]katonda 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              You're not permanently banned. If anything, FD was extra nice and they let you play solo as much as you want :).

              [–]immakingfx-=AED=- [I.B.] over 2000 pk[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Im very pleased to play solo, )) It's like my wify says me.. play solo,,, forever )))))))))

              [–]Linoa06Linoa06 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Good, stay there.

              [–]CMDR_RivertideRivertide | Better Call Sol 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Oh FD, what? Actual combat loggers get away with it, but PVPers & pirates get bans?

              AED, I hope FD come to their senses and unban you. Good luck! This is ridiculous.

              [–]Jpotter145Jason Petter 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

              Sigh.....he is a CLogger... personally happened to me in Cubeo months ago. Likely he is back to his old tricks.

              [–]CMDR_RivertideRivertide | Better Call Sol -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Do you have any video evidence? I've been interdicted by and fought against AED several times, on my own and in combat wings. His Cutter is essentially unkillable if he doesn't feel like dying, unless he gets hit by mines/torps. He can low-wake against anything. He can high-wake against anything. He has no need to combat log.

              Given how active he is in PVP, and given his build, I would be very surprised to find out he's been combat logging.

              [–]StefanDefqon1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              yep agree he dont need to clog all pvp players know he dont log he dont need to.

              [–]DrFreezIrkDrFreez -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Just troll. Vote and ignore.

              [–]Linoa06Linoa06 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              He -is- a clogger, but FD need to come up with something better than a system with a known high rate of false positives.

              [–]onionman77Onionman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              What? AED you're a stand up guy, I'm sorry :/

              [–]Don_Haron 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I hope this topic will give publicity to the whole game world will know that FD crap again

              [–]NitekPLNitek [pl] NaCl 1800+ Player kills 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (21子コメント)

              WHAT?! You are not a logger. What the actual fuck is wrong with FD. Mocke, Walkure and many others are still there and you got permaband? I also never ever logged and got a warning some time ago.

              So now FD is permabanning legit pvp players?

              [–]VoggixVoggix [EIC] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

              No disrespect but FD is clearly seeing something on their end.

              [–]masterblaster0 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Oh look, one combat logger standing up for another, surprise surprise

              /s

              [–]Spider_GilgameshSpider Gilgamesh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

              If Nitek says they are not a logger, and didn't just forget a /s tag, I would tend to believe it.

              SDC / NaCl have more combat logger busting cred than anyone.

              [–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              AED is a combat logger. There's video proof on youtube.

              He also used to run shield hacks which I saw with my own eyes.

              [–]Jpotter145Jason Petter 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

              Really? I've personally witnessed him CL'ing in Cubeo hunting traders when combat ships arrive to stop him. He's also got some kind of LAN interrupt (or used to anyway).

              [–]JonticlesRinzler o7o7o7 | Thank you for not cheating 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Got any videos?

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                [–]StuartGTGTᴜᴋ 🚀🌌 Thx 4 not cheating[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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                [–]eraser19rus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                a group of people wrote a report on alleged logoff. And a person gets banned! There is no evidence logoff. Only players slander. Everyone knows Aeda as a fighter with logoff. He had never before such did not fall.

                [–]masterblaster0 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                That is not what has happened though, at least you cannot prove that is what has occurred.

                Frontier say that have confirmed that this guy has repeatedly done this, they are not saying that they have repeated confirmations from other players.

                [–]DrFreezIrkDrFreez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I'm always fly with him in the team and I'm know what he not CLogger. Please provide your irrefutable proofs.

                [–]DeathGrips619Oddisee [SDC] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                F

                [–]dudd1ts -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                showing a video part way through of (what could have been a legit 15 second log) is not proof enough.

                I dont believe that AED or Nitek are combat loggers.

                Something isn't adding up correctly here

                [–]_RAZAAR_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                What I know is that -=AED=- is not cloger, but the reasons behind of his bunn could be different than what is sounded by FD. FD must protect the number of players playing ED according to the number of reports and number of players that have reported on one single player. If some one by his in game actions do not allow to play game to very big number of others (yes even if they are idiots they still have rights to play), those others can bunn the one no matter by what reason if he is cloger or just idiotic abuser of idiots.

                [–]zxalexis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This case must be covered in user agreement and game rules. There are none of that, except latest harassment rules (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/237761-Support-update-Reiteration-of-player-harassment-rules ). But there's pvp in open play excluded as expectable behavior.

                [–]jc4hokiesEdward Tivrusky VI | 0 CR balance 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You've been permanently instanced. :( Hopefully FD will resolve this favorably.

                [–]Mr-Skelly -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                So guys like mocke still run around in open yet a proper PVP player gets banned for what? A mass report. This game, its forumdad community, braindead developers and laughable support staff are putting the final nails in the coffin.

                [–]Linoa06Linoa06 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I would argue brainless toxicity from people like you or the SDC are what are putting "the final nails in the coffin", but hey, you're the one having a shit time with the game x)

                [–]Cmdr-JamesonJameson -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Awesome!!! I have gone against AED and when he was on the losing side he soon vanished, never got video of it but about time frontier done something about combat logging.

                [–]hyabtb -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                HA! SWEET! You killed me during the Whitson Orbital CG. I was in a Vulture and you were in a Cutter killing all the players. I kind of liked how you were sticking up for Pirates, I though it showed flair and imagination. if it was me I would have fun seeing them scurry away but you enjoyed it too much so you seem like a sadist. On balance I'm happy for this, you getting fun from making people unhappy is kinda sick.

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                  [–]CtriC'tri 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I'm confused, what do you hope Frontier Support to do/say?

                  [–]KantrhThe Sonderval| Explorer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  That they're looking into it?

                  [–]CtriC'tri 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Nothing left to look into, the guy already appealed and it got rejected (screenshot 2)

                  Support has followed through on their policy, nothing more they'll do on the subject unless told to by their superiors, and policy is changed.

                  Honestly, I'm glad FD is now taking action against people with sufficient evidence against them to warrant a ban and they appear to be warning people first, which is good practice.

                  This is a good development against those using exploits.

                  [–]CtriC'tri 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  There's nothing left to look into, judging from the two screenshots above: he's already appealed and it's been rejected.

                  Nothing more to do from Support's perspective. You could go behind support to community managers who might break policy if there's PR concerns, but support have fulfilled their internal policy requirements to close, if I'm any judge

                  (Source: senior customer tech support agent)

                  [–]StuartGTGTᴜᴋ 🚀🌌 Thx 4 not cheating[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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                  [–]BLAZE7777777 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Frontier, what's wrong with you :) What are you Smoking ?

                  [–]TheCodePRTruthful PR - Player kill count Over 9000 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  Anti PVP Downvotes incoming lads

                  Mobius has just linked this thread in their facebook group.

                  They are already fapping over it..

                  Code PR

                  [–]bgrnbrggrnbrg [Mobius][FleetComm] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Hey, we enjoy a good salt mine as much as anyone else.

                  And I'm sure all of the pro-PvP users are only voting based purely on the objective quality of the posts, right?

                  [–]PVE-PR 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Ah Majinvash you show your colours.

                  [–]Linoa06Linoa06 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  More of the brainless bullshit between the PVE and PVP groups. Sit the fuck down and let the rest of us play.

                  "Sure if we sneak back in with another account, you can cry huge man size tears to FDEV and they take action but thats all you got."

                  Doesn't matter if Mobius sucks at moderation, you choose to go fuck shit up in their server, you don't blame them for being your victims. This is a discussion I wouldn't even expect to have with a 16 year old. Stop being antisocial and if you really -are- then get actual help. Just sit the fuck down and stop being a pain in the ass. Not all PVPers want to associate with your shit. Hell, I do PVP, this isn't about PVP, this is about your shitty attitude.

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