I was debating at first whether I should even make this post, but I hope this will help articulate a quasi-counterargument for those who are "on the fence".

Now, I'm going to state a point that's going to garnish me a lot of criticism, but you'll eventually see how this strengthens and supports my overall argument down the reasoning.

TBP isn't wrong about everything — in fact, they're generally partially correct on some things, more so than the manosphere generally credits them to be.

However, here's why their partial credit is effectively irrelevant in the aggregate argumentative scope and theme of argument between the two opposing parties.

They ALWAYS attack the lowest-hanging fruit and/or some emotional vent/rage post on some manospherian blog.

Now, I'm not advocating we, TRP, or any other part of the manosphere censor these posts; in fact, I encourage them. The manosphere is one of the few places men can have unapologetic discourse about women and human nature, especially female nature. Men need an environment to release their anger and negative energy, that's why I fully advocate it.

However, it is the pseudointellectuals who populate TBP who are being intellectually dishonest in claiming that these posts alone are what the core (i.e. what is representative of said group's ideals and principles) of the manosphere and especially MGTOW is about.

I mean for fucks sake, when are they even going to REMOTELY address that over half of all marriages in Westernized nations end in divorce? When are they going to address the fact that 80 percent of women initiate said divorces? When are they going to address the fact that 97 percent of alimony is paid by men? When are they going to address the fact that in ~86 percent of child custody cases, mother's retain primary custody of children? When are they going to address the fact that women lie about their past sexual partners by a factor/multiple of 3 less than what their actual sexual partner count is? When are they going to acknowledge the fact that whenever an article or blog post comes out about female infidelity, they almost always implicitly shift all of the blame and responsibility to the man who got cheated on?

When are they going to address the fact that men don't have obnoxious physiological requirements stated in their Tinder profile, but an abundance of women do (e.g. He must be at least 6'2")? When are they going to address the fact that women perceive the vast majority of men to be "below average" in physical sex appeal?

When are they going to address the fact that women on average are only a significant net deficit on the tax base? When are they going to address the fact that women make-up only 20 percent of STEM despite inflated acceptance rates and scholarships being thrown at them simply for having a vagina? When are they going to accept the fact that the vast majority of women will only consider marrying a man who earns a higher income than they do?

How do they think their personal interests and emotions alone can debunk entire sub-fields of Evolutionary Biology and Evolutionary Psychology and their respective findings? When will they recognize the obvious implications from data such as women are more likely to orgasm during intercourse with a wealthy man as opposed to a non-wealthy man? When are they going to address the fact and its various implications that for the majority of human history, roughly three women reproduced for every one man? When are they going to leave their infantile delusions that humans are monogamous and that only a small minority of women cheat?

When are they going to accept that due to fundamentally different reproductive functions, women and men will always implicitly be seen as functionally different for different roles AND THERE IS VALID REASON (not the "MISOGYNY" they constantly bitch and cry about) behind it?

I could go on here... But here's a nice way to finish it all — a BP beta himself telling people to take a break from TBP (almost as if they browse the manosphere threads more so than the actual men that comprise the manosphere do so themselves, LOL).

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