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[–]throwaway3456505 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think the vast majority of people here oppose it because they see it as immoral. They laugh at it as well, because they thinks it's ridiculous, but their main issue with it is that it's selfish and abusive.

To get someone away from it I would probably try to oppose their more factual claims about how the world works, then ask them if they still see it as ethical.

[–]aguad3coco[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If unpopular or not good looking guys could get with someone by following their bullshit, I dont think they would care that much about ethical issues. As long as its not sexual harrassment or otherwise criminal.

[–]maybe_little_pinchflying saucer 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Unpopular and not good looking guys get with women every day without TRP.

What is unique to TRP is manipulative and abuse, sometimes sexual harassment and criminal to boot. They regularly advocate pushing past a woman's boundaries to get "sex".

What works in TRP isn't unique to TRP. Things like develop hobbies, get in shape, and be more confident are not unique to TRP.

[–]aguad3coco[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thats true, focussing on how backwards and unnecessary their ideology is should be the best way to make them look like idiots. This sub already does that in a funny way. But many of these guys also feel a strong resentment against women which makes it hard to convince them. I got banned from mgtow and incels(disturbing place) by just bringing that up.

[–]maybe_little_pinchflying saucer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a whole post bouncing around in my head based on The Power of Myth, and how TRP is an example of a modern myth. But it is waayyy too serious for TBP and I refuse to post in PPD.

[–]ponyproblematicthe intrinsic nature of women to destroy things 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes

in all seriousness, though, the main reason i don't like the red pill is that they've got two flavors of advice. the first is blindingly, horribly obvious. "it's good to be confident." "people tend to be attracted to physically fit people, so you should lift." "women will want to date you more if you wear nice clothing." that sort of thing. this is often held up as "see, the red pill has some good things to say!" but in reality, it's just, like, super obvious. they don't even really give you much in-depth advice beyond the most surface level. like, they say to lift, but i don't know if i've ever seen a post that goes into detail beyond "get your bench up!"

the second kind of advice is the actively horrible shit. "no usually means try again but with more muscle." "women are functionally dogs and children and aren't capable of anything except sex and deception and international feminist conspiracies." "any given rape accusation is probably fake." most of the shit that gets posted here. this also includes a hell of a lot of the sex advice that isn't basic self-improvement- which works, if you ignore that your partner is a human being who should consent to what you're doing. (because lbr, the sex equivalent of "want to get rich quick? hold up a bank!" technically works, i guess.)

imo, the first doesn't erase the horrible shit in the second.