Fash co-optation of occult philosophy

Superspacedeluxe · 21時間前

I've practiced chaos magick in the past and was not aware the alt-right had been using it for their own fucked up ends. It is concerning to me. I can see it thinking about it now in how they've obscured their symbols and persona and hate into a new guise that not only is applicable to modern society but seems to subvert the failures of neoliberalism to their own end.

Edit: A proper response would be to start if we haven't yet using it to promote self determination, anti fascism and anti capitalism. And also, to learn from them. They turned an internet meme into president. They are powerful and clearly doing something right and we must understand what we're dealing with to know how to address it properly.

Also can you link to the articles you mentioned?

giveviolenceachance · 18時間前

Does anyone else practice any occult/pagan/esoteric/non abrahamic theory

I'd consider myself a dabbler in the occult. My primary tradition of interest is probably Satanism / Setianism, but Gnosticism, contemporary witchcraft, voodoo, and run-of-the-mill neopaganism interest me, too.

how do you feel about this and what do you think our reaction should be?

It sucks, I guess. Occultists have a bad enough reputation as it is; we don't need fascists making it worse. I'm not too concerned, though. It isn't as if occultism is in the media spotlight very often. I see it more as an expression of my own individualism, anyway. I'll probably just continue to begrudgingly ignore (and of course refuse to associate with) the fascists in the community.

Superspacedeluxe · 19時間前

It's interesting to say the least. Read the link about Pepe DecarabiaXVII posted. To my understanding advertising agencies use what we're calling chaos magick to sell their products with catchy ads, sound bites and images.

PulvisEtUmbraSumus · 12時間前

Gnostic, chao-christian theurgist. Arrived at anarchism through Tolstoy and Philip K Dick.

Not sure about r/occult specifically, but kekism and its ilk in general have gone from amusements to something more disturbing.

Have you looked into Wilhelm Reich's Mass Psychology of Fascism? He suggests that fascistic tendencies are a symptom of treatable existential and sexual issues in our society-- or, at least, in the society of 1930s Germany. I've found it applicable to the alt-right but at the very least, he presents a good analysis of Nazism as it was happening, issues of freedom and provides principles for the education of future generations.

grimeMuted · 15時間前

No, but /r/sorceryofthespectacle is the strangest place. Marxists and fascists/reactionaries hanging out together discussing critical theory and chaos magick. Might have something to do with Nick Land.

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