Pokemon Prism Cancelled! From the facebook page.

keetongu856 · 9時間前

Koolboyman will be posting a write up about it later and he'll take down the fb page in a few days.

M4Lyfe · 9時間前

Genuinely didn't expect that, since when do they C&D romhacks?

Regardless, I doubt he's really just gonna drop it like that, there's gotta be a stealth release. If not, someone in the TPP mod team surely already has a copy of one of the roms since the run and can dump them somewhere discretely.

Duplex_be_great · 9時間前

Damn.

People were making jokes about this, but damn, I didn't think it would actually happen. I thought someone had provided a good explanation for why this was different from Uranium and wouldn't be hit with the same letter?

Anyway, how does this affect TPP's copy of it and their involvement with it? Nintendo doubtless knows that our team was part of it, but they didn't mention us in their letter.

snowball721 · 9時間前

Man... biblethump

KillerMapper · 8時間前

So I was wrong.

Nintendo doesn't just shut down full fan-games and not ROM hacks.

They just shut down everything that becomes too popular.

The Prism trailer with its 1+million views is probably what triggered the DCMA. Uranium (even if we didn't have a true proof like we have here) became the most popular RPG Maker game and got this ending as well. Same for the Metroid remake that got closed right after release, right when its popularity exploded.

I'm afraid others excellent projects such like Phoenix Rising will end like Prism.

Morality: if you want to make a custom game with Nintendo trademarks, make sure nobody will make it popular and don't advertise it.

Merry Christmas from Nintendo.

Proaxel65 · 9時間前

Well......

Shit.

Fuudstamps · 8時間前

R.I.P. Cyan... 7

SubwayBossEmmett · 9時間前

This does not make sense they are not making any profits on the game. We technically already have the Rom, it's just not public

Someone will probably seed it online eventually through the staff.

Edit: What does that mean for our streams of the game? Could we have possibly screwed this over though stream donations?

Edit 2: Could this because pokemon Prism being the next game?

SUNsteel strike

MOONgeist Beam

PRISMatic Laser

Zion_Crayson · 9時間前

I've already prepared some torches and pitchforks for you guys if this means Christmas has one less present. I would have figured Crimson Echoes had been a lesson to publishers, but I guess not. This is absolutely stupid, I hate it, and I hope to Helix that this is just a dumbass troll trying to throw some baseless claim.

KipTheMudkip · 8時間前

There is no confirmation that this is genuine as yet.

There is only one e-mail, based on whois data alone (information stored on domain names that anyone can access). No other website hosting games in the Rijon series has received any notice, no one streaming the game has received notice (neither TPP or keizaron), the Rijon.com service provider has not received notice, and there has been no YouTube takedown notice issued against any video of Prism, whether it be Beta Let's Plays, TPP archive material or the game's trailer.

There is also the fact that it has been sent now, with for days until release, not when the trailer was posted, not when the TPP Prism run was announced, not any time within the last 8 years of development, and not post-release. Prism has always been very popular, it's not something that's just gotten popular recently.

I'd rather we didn't take any action until we have confirmation that this is real.

calambrepatitas · 6時間前

Ouch.

Chitownson · 6時間前

What a winter solstice. At the very least, we got to enjoy Prism, if only for a moment.

zg44 · 3時間前

Wow, it appears that the "promotional activity" generated by the trailer (and perhaps the TPP run itself which was noted on Kotaku and some other gamer sites) brought too much attention to the project.

I'm legitimately surprised that this happened, but the main reason does appear to be the trailer that's gotten 1.4 million views as well as the TPP run itself which was well attended for a Season 3 run.

It's a shame that this has happened, but I guess it's a new type of lesson for these kinds of projects..., there's a danger in getting too much attention pre-release.

Zokor · 9時間前

What the hell, Nintendo?

I know Nintendo has to defend their property, but still... even when not everything was fully completed, Prism was a really great version of Pokemon koolboyman and the other devs made with features like bingo achievements that Game Freak could take notes from in the main games. It got a million views, so a lot of people were looking forward to it even if they weren't partial to TPP in general. And losing Brown as well, the romhack that blazed the road for others to follow? solface

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Sol64 · 3時間前

The more I look at the subject, the angrier I get because this is the 2nd time i've put real emotional investment (First was liquid crystal)

I don't want to take another disappointment, is there really no way this will be released?

Quijas00 · 1時間前

Isn't this a rom for the generation 2 games? The ones that came out in like 1999 or something? And Nintendo feels the need to take them down?

GlitcherRed · 1時間前

Someone on Facebook page gave a point that they might not even realize this is a romhack since this is so well made.

deyesed · 7時間前

I am surprised it took them this long. There's been a precedent in Uranium and maybe others.

mada100letsplays · 6時間前

I'm just hoping Keizaron or someone high up here is able to release a build to us some how. Too bad Nintendo's lawyers didn't get off early for Christmas this year.

gh0sti · 3時間前

Can't someone just leak out the ips patch for us to apply to a ROM ? That might be easier to distribute

RHY3756547 · 1時間前

Can't say I didn't expect this: too much additional content from other games (audio, text), the Pokemon name and characters, and Nintendo have a strict brand identity at stake. I do appreciate the work put in (8 years! wow), but perhaps the trailer far in advance was a mistake.

Mozilla_Fennekin · 7時間前

Although I am surprised and disappointed, there is nothing wrong with Nintendo doing this. Pokemon is their property. They can do what they want, including shut down fanmade works. They are within their rights.

I am sorry to the dev team for going through this with less than a week before release. But I hope someone will be able to sneak the game out.

CanisAries · 7時間前

fucking hell nintendo. you just couldn't let it go.

i'm getting fighting is magic flashbacks here.

zCourge_iDX · 4時間前

I've been waiting for SIX FUCKING YEARS. GO fucking DIE nintendo

supernapalm · 3時間前

Fuck you Nintendo

If you were going to do this at all you would've had plenty of opportunity to do this back in October after the Youtube trailer got popular and also throughout November while we were playing it on the Twitch stream.

Having the team do all this extra work for nothing and sending this letter 4 days before the intended release?

FUCK YOU!

BlinksTale · 6時間前

Most of the titles that Nintendo has taken down use ripped sprites and the name of a Nintendo franchise in their title. These are extremely direct violations of IP rights. No one should be surprised.

Star Fox the Animated Series got a DMCA takedown notice last year and rebranded to A Fox in Space. Everything is hand drawn in an original art style, original voice acting, original story - just using the characters in a modified form. It is primarily transformed. I believe it has had no trouble since.

No Mario's Sky got a takedown notice and rebranded to DMCA's Sky, removing the recognizable aspects since everything was, though originally made, a direct cover of the oiginal SMB just with additional features like planet travel and mutations. Its revised form is primarily original content, and it has been up for three months afaik without issue.

I made my own fan game back in 2007 using a name that was not the brand name, a story new to the games, all originally created music, 2d art, and 3d art that would not be confused with their inspirations, and a ground up unique implementation of similar gameplay for PC. I'm sure it helped that it got limited attention, but I never got any news from Nintendo - but they were very much still active shutting down a 3d Metroid, Zelda for Halo CE, and plenty of OoT 2D remakes at that time, this is nothing new for them.

I am no lawyer, but I would recommend looking into adopting the story, fighting, character customization, general stats for the battles (that were original or newly created), level design, and world to a new game engine instead of the Pokemon one, and stripping Pokemon from the name. That does mean redoing all the programming, and that's no quick task - but it just won't have a future otherwise. This is why Project M's team switched to more original content instead of additive content, you just don't have a legal basis without Nintendo's permission on ROM Hacks and mods unless its transformative enough that it would hold up in court (ie. clearly more your work than Nintendo's, afaik - but I am no lawyer). The work shouldn't go to waste, but it should come as no surprise that anything with Pokemon in the name, using Pokemon sprites and the Pokemon game engine, gets shut down by Nintendo.

Farukon555 · 5時間前

God dang it, the Grinchtendo just went out and screwed our Christmas

If KBM received this letter, has any of the TPP DevTeam received it as well? (Either for any of the TPP Anniversaries or for Prism?)

Nkekev · 5時間前

Fuck Nintendo somebody leak this sht I can't handle these assholes anymore ruining my Christmas. Sun and Moon was infamous piss i'm angry as f*ck.

LaXandro · 23分前

One thing I don't understand is... Why didn't they do this sooner? They could've shut them down months ago, leaving people a bit bummed but not kicking much dust, but no, let's build up the hype and infuriate people.

sohippy · 5時間前

Nintendo allowed no fun.

Rip Prism...at least TPP got a complete hands-on with it.

Jayare158 · 2時間前

RIP my Christmas, Prism was going to be the only good thing about it.

Here's hoping it's released anyway by someone else obscurely. Kappa

tustin2121 · 2時間前

So... remind me why we like pokemon again? Because Nintendo makes it really hard to like any of their shit... FailFish

FerozElMejor · 6時間前

I'm not surprised, the game is too complete for GameFreak, so GF needed to destroy the competence...

Zephymastyx · 1時間前

Just wondering, is requiring steps taken within 2 days after sending the letter even legal? I just know there are laws that require a period of at least one week (or two weeks, or a month...) for the defendant to take the action requested by the letter. And requests not giving the deadline guaranteed are basically null and void, or at least the deadline is extended to the point that would have been required by the law. At least that's how it works in Germany. Of course, even if this were the case, releasing the game anyway and only taking the required actions at the rightful deadline would be extremely risky, but maybe it's worth considering.

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