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What am I supposed to do when ugly? (self.TheBluePill)

Fhdst46i が 投稿

I know relationships aren't all about looks but there has to be attraction for a relationship to happen doesn't that make sense? Especially for a not completely terrible one? And I already am doing whatever I can but I still am genuinely very ugly. I obviously don't want to go full mogtw or any of that crap.

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[–]seventyfivemechanica 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

so you want a relationship but you're only option is to go mgtow? how exactly does that work for you?

groom yourself. find some hobbies that make you interesting to talk to and hang out with. build a life that makes you happy. these things are also attractive - more attractive than plain good looks.

[–]alby333 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Form a band you don't even have to be that good Pete Doherty managed to date Kate moss so there's hope for you

[–]Fhdst46i[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You think that guy is ugly? I really have no chance then

[–]alby333 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not necessarily ugly but Kate was one of the worlds top supermodels so he's seriously punching above his weight.

In all seriousness you are probably not as bad as u think. Healthy lifestyle and decent grooming and dressing well go a long way.

The band thing was said in jest but in all seriousness it was good for me it's a worthwhile hobby and good for confidence and tends to make you the centre of social situations

[–]chloerocks 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, how old are you? Are you working? Do you have hobbies? Are you in school? They're like a billion ways to meet people and to find dates but I need to know more. Maybe take a cooking class?

[–]QuantumCynics 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I'm with /u/HolidayDoggos ... but I'm not as nice, so I'll boil it down to - put up or shut up.

Post a few pics of yourself so we can see what we're working with. Then be willing to take and UTILIZE (<-- the important part here) some constructive criticism and advice.

I think you want help. I think you think you can't be helped. You might even think you've tried everything but the reality is doing nothing isn't going to work, so you've got nothing left to lose at all by trying again.

[–]HolidayDoggos♪ "Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury"♬ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What would make this a productive conversation for you? I'm starting to see this incel question as a weird philosophy riddle.

We can't see you re:ugliness; you don't seem to be answering questions that would allow improvement or even exchanging ideas; and you've only said what you don't want to do. I've just never seen anything work or even have an impact.

So, let's map it out in advance: someone will tell you to lift and talk to people. If you're asking in good faith, you'll describe what you have done and why it's not working. People will be glib but also try to help.

If you're posting in bad faith, you'll say that advice (to groom, exercise, and talk to people) is just the red pill advice which puts the responsibility on men, to which someone will say that it doesn't come with a side dish of hatred at women.

If you're posting in just incel fashion, you'll end up saying you are too ugly despite what anyone says and blame women for their shallowness. I doubt that is the case, though, if you're already not into going MGTOW.

So, I'm begging you. Either actually let us try to help, describe specific situations, or let's just do something different. Just for fun. Say you have four heads or live with a yeti, just anything.