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[–]texan_Tussler 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (84子コメント)

I would remove him/her from my will, I would still love them, but I wouldn't provide any financial support to a dead end.

[–]lukas8u 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I assume you would do the same if your straight kids turn out infertile, correct?

[–]Yoge5 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (75子コメント)

You are a bad person.

[–]texan_Tussler 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (56子コメント)

Families are the basic economic unit upon which everything relies. If my child throws away the future to live in childless hedonism, why would I fund it? My money is not only for my children, it's for my grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc.

[–]mustardtastesgood2 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (54子コメント)

What if he adopts?

[–]texan_Tussler 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (52子コメント)

Several issues with that:

1: Homosexuals adopting is a terrible idea. It doesn't provide a stable home, and homosexuals are more likely to molest children. (I'll provide citations when I get home.)

2: Adoption, unless someone unable to reproduce is akin to cuckholdry. My children are my genetic future, not someone else's.

[–]TheDonJonJay 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Your afraid your son would molest an adopted kid?

[–]texan_Tussler 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (14子コメント)

If he's part of a demographic that does so at higher rates, then yes.

[–]Saidsker 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Or you raised a molester

[–]texan_Tussler 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I don't think parenting can lead to something like that.

[–]Saidsker 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being a shitty parent can lead to a lot more than you think

[–]psuwoowoowoo 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Parenting can, sure. A lot of people that molest children were molested themselves growing up. Highly correlated.

Obviously parents can molest their children so of course parenting can be to blame.

[–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Children of lesbian mothers = 4x more likely to be non-heterosexual, 10x more likely to be touched sexually by an adult caregiver or parent, 4x more likely to be overtly forced into sex.

[–]cyathea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Source? That is a huge claim, if it were true I'm sure I would have heard of it.

(4x non-het for adopted kids of male gays and 10x for lesbians should be compared to the non-het rate in adopted kids, not in all kids).

If identified non-het kids are placed with gay parents for preference that would produce the figures claimed.

Also, most kids are in the closet if their parents are streaight.

[–]SuperDanceParty -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research

My mistake, I remembered it wrong. Just 4x more likely.

10x more likely the child to be touched sexually by adult caregiver or parent.

I'll edit.

There weren't actually enough gay father couples available to come up with as conclusive evidence.

The average age of adoption is 10 months old to 3 years old. They better not be sexually identified by then or we're fucking this country up worse than I thought.

I've also found a study that shows pro homosexuality researchers have a tendency to obscure data and evidence to hide the higher rates of homosexuality among adopted children to homosexual couples. But I can't find it right now, and I'm on my phone... Until next month because I'm out of town. Nevermind, here it is. It's a little bit older. Not many people challenge this stuff.

[–]JoJoRumbles 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Homosexuals are more likely to molest children

Do you have any valid evidence to support this claim?

[–]DoctorMope 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (13子コメント)

This is the dumbest garbage I've ever seen. If you somehow leave whatever dead end situation you're in, you're going to be so embarrassed about your ignorance. But sure, let's see those "sources".

[–]texan_Tussler 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

[–]DoctorMope 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah, that's not a good source.

[–]texan_Tussler 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

What invalidates it?

[–]DoctorMope 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ok. Assuming that you are serious: a better question is, "what validates it?" It looks like a self-published book. It fails every test of validity. There's a reason it's impossible to find good data to back up your claim.

[–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lesbian couples are ten times more likely to raise homosexual children, gay couples 4 times more likely.

Children of lesbian couples 10 times more likely to be sexually abused by parent or adult caregivers.

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research

Other studies have found that pro homosexual researchers have purposely smudged evidence to hide the same conclusions.

And what the others said is true. Homosexuality is a mental disorder. If you study the science behind the causes of homosexuality (there is no gay gene, it's a hormonally developed disorder/psychological issue) it's plain as day to see. Some of the causes of homosexuality also cause autism (endocrine). A mental disorder has no scientific definition, it's simply what is considered 'not normal' but I don't see any reason to consider a psychological conditioning or a chemical imbalance to be 'normal', and with all the issues these people have statistically, I only feel more confident that their sub group isn't 'normal'

[–]Eggmont 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a lot of questions those results raise. The first being is it even possible to influence a childs sexuality through their upbringing or does being raised by a gay couple just eliminate the chance of the child repressing their sexuality for various reasons.

The second half I'm not even going to touch, it's so far out of step with our current understanding of sexuality as to be meaningless

[–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes it is extremely possible. Studies on the causes of homosexuality find that the primary causes are endocrine from hormonal imbalance, and psychological conditioning, with no sign of a gay gene.

There is only genetic influence on sexuality. In the form of hormonal gland dysfunction, resulting in endocrine imbalance (also autism).

[–]mustardtastesgood2 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Adoption, unless someone unable to reproduce is akin to cuckholdry. My children are my genetic future, not someone else's

Wow! You're horrible and pathetic but that's your opinion so whatever.

homosexuals are more likely to molest children.

Yea that's bullshit

[–]notagayguy69 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow! You're horrible and pathetic but that's your opinion so whatever.

Not exactly, you're just programmed to be outraged by anyone who disagrees with your mainstream Jew curated opinions.

[–]DoctorMope 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You are adorable. What's your deal anyway?

[–]22141448 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yea that's bullshit

Something like 30-50% of children who are sexually molested are boys, and the vast majority of child abusers are men. Homosexuals are over-represented among child molesters.

[–]mustardtastesgood2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The word you're looking for is pedophile

[–]22141448 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Pedophilia and homosexuality are not mutually exclusive if that's what you're implying.

[–]texan_Tussler 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is significant overlap between male homosexuals (and to a lesser extent lesbians) and pedophiles.

[–]cyathea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Male abusers of male children are not necessarily pedophiles, nor are they necessarily homosexual. Sexual abusers of children are often oportunistic and indiscriminate.

[–]cozye 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]JoJoRumbles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you have any valid evidence? Preferably not from a heavily biased anti-gay hate group?

[–]SerengetiYeti 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you have access through a university you can read the articles they're sourcing. The people at FRC draw VERY different conclusions than the material they're referencing.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000580

[–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research

Children of lesbian mothers:

Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver."

[–]Skallywagwindorr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

1: Homosexuals adopting is a terrible idea. It doesn't provide a stable home, and homosexuals are more likely to molest children. (I'll provide citations when I get home.)

only if they become catholic priests first.

[–]random_side_note 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Find those sources yet? It's been almost 24 hours.

[–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then his adopted child would be 4 times more likely to also be gay (10 times more if a lesbian daughter), so I wouldn't go for it.

[–]Mardok 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

my child throws away the future to live in childless hedonism

Would you rather your child be unhappy pretending something he wasn't?

[–]Wheynweed 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (17子コメント)

No, people who murder gays are. A person is well within their rights not to leave inheritance for their children if they feel like they don't deserve it.

[–]Yoge5 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (16子コメント)

They don't deserve financial support because of their sexual preference they have absolutely zero control over?

You people are absolute assholes. Blame me thinking that on the jews whatever, that is absolute bullshit and you know it.

[–]Wheynweed 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (15子コメント)

I never said my personal opinion

[–]Yoge5 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Your statement was completely irrelevant to this chain, it would have been relevant if the guy I responded to had a son that actually didn't deserve financial support (alcohol abuse, criminality, etc.)

[–]Wheynweed 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (13子コメント)

My statement was true. People don't give their children inheritance if they fuck kids.

[–]Yoge5 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (12子コメント)

People don't give their children inheritance if they fuck kids.

Obviously not, but you don't know for 100% certainty that your gay kid will go around fucking minors. That will forever be a thing of hindsight.

If you don't judge your child as an individual there is something wrong with you and the way that you think, not that that was a new thing for the alt-right.

[–]Wheynweed 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yeah but being a paedophile is something you can't choose like being gay. Yet you're fine with people choosing not to give them inheritance.

[–]Yoge5 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm sorry but when had there ever been a time where babies/kids could be tested for pedophilia?

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    [–]texan_Tussler 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Checked your post history. This doesn't benefit your cause.

    [–]_DanksyFascist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Man, you posted the same exact thing six times. Triggered much?

    [–]lukesterboi1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It doesn't follow that something capable of and actively engaging in growing will die out quickly. All this subreddit has done is gain subscribers, and there are tons of The_(insert place or person here) that are up-and-coming. We aren't going away sooner rather than later.

    [–]Nappyboy1769 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (19子コメント)

    I would probably cry.

    [–]mustardtastesgood2 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Why?

    [–]Nappyboy1769 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    It would be sad. There is nothing more beautiful than human potential. Every potential generation after him would be wiped out without achieving what could have been possible. If that was my only child it would also be the end of my specific genetic lineage. Feels bad man.

    [–]Yoge5 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Ever heard of donating sperm/injecting seed into a womb?

    There's a lot of ways to still continue your genetic lineage, stop being so goddamn dramatic holy shit

    [–]noumenalnegation -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    According to this f@g, donating to a sperm bank should be everyone's goal if they want to continue their genetic lineage. "Stop being so goddamn dramatic holy shit" indicates that you would get stomped out in an IRL fight lmaooo

    [–]Yoge5 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    everyone's goal

    That's not what I said at all.

    [–]noumenalnegation 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    So then why would you think it would apply to him? Obviously it wouldn't. It'd apply to basically no one

    [–]Yoge5 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He said he'd be disappointed because he couldn't continue his genetic lineage (with a gay son), I gave him an example in which he can. He's being overly dramatic. Period.

    [–]noumenalnegation 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You know he wouldn't take that for an answer

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      [–]Yoge5 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      You have a point there lol

      [–]DoctorMope 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Seriously. These people are something else.

      [–]EndOfTheSpectrum -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      You and people like are going to die out sooner rather than later and that's going to be a good thing for the world.

      [–]cozye 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Is he supposed to be happy his theoretical child has a genetic disorder? What is wrong with you?

      [–]meatduck12Socialist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Proof that homosexuality is a genetic disorder?

      [–]SocialNationalismIdentitarian 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      So are people born this way or not?

      [–]chewingofthecudReactionary 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'll tell you what: you keep telling yourself that traditional norms are dying forever, and the rest of us will keep doing the things that natural selection selected for fitness over the course of aeons, and let's see how that works out in the long term for both of us.

      [–]notagayguy69 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (12子コメント)

      I'd be extremely disappointed and feel as if I failed as a parent.

      [–]cyathea 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      There is nothing you can do as a parent to straighten out a gay kid. You can get them to pretend for a few years but they will tend to hate you for it.

      Standard advice to a kid with a parent like that is to stay in the closet until parents have paid for their education and health insurance, until graduated and earning enough to be independent.

      On our SuicideWatch sub I talk to kids whose parents love their picture of who they would like their kid to be more than the kid they actually have.

      [–]Yoge5 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      "but muh averages"

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        [–]notagayguy69 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        Sorry, you wish that to be true but it's not the case. People like me will always exist. People like you have bullied us into silence so you think you outnumber us but I can say with full confidence, no parent wants their child to be gay.

        [–]Mardok 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Most people want their children to be happy- regardless of sexuality

        [–]dddaaadddd[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        I certainly wouldnt want my child to be gay but i wouldn't treat them differently if they were, why can't you be the same way?

        [–]notagayguy69 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        Where did I say I would treat them differently? I just said I'd be disappointed. I want straight sons, straight daughters, and a big healthy family.

        [–]dddaaadddd[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Unless you are willing to ignore a multitude of scientific research, there is no reason for you to be disappointed since homosexuality is something that people are born with. To be honest I'd feel like i failed as a parent if i treated a gay kid with hostility just because they're gay

        [–]notagayguy69 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        What the fuck does scientific research have to do with wanting straight children? Are you insinuating there's something wrong with me because I don't want gay children? If you want little fags running around, so be it but how dare you judge me for having a preference. I also don't want black children, is that a problem you cuck?

        [–]dddaaadddd[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I also said i wouldn't want gay children, that doesn't mean im going to be disappointed in them or myself if they're gay because homosexuality isnt something you learn. I will probably be a bit upset if i learned i had a gay kid because gay people have a disadvantaged life but i wouldnt feel disappointed in anyone.

        [–]GoyimFishing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Just a moment ago you said you didn't want a gay child either. I can only assume getting what you don't want would be disappointing to you. Why are you criticizing him for holding a similar viewpoint?

        I also fail to see where he said he'd be hostile to a gay child, merely disappointed.

        [–]dddaaadddd[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well he said he would feel like he failed as a parent. That's the part that confused me because its not like he can control his kids sexuality

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          [–]_Emperor-Trump_ 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Yeah I hear Mike "AC/DC for LGBT" Pence is a good motivator

          [–]Trump_is_ChristFascist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (24子コメント)

          Would tell him/her to figure out a way to give me biological grand children if they want to stay in the will.

          [–]dddaaadddd[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (18子コメント)

          So if your child married an infertile woman or simply didn't want to make kids then they wouldnt be in your will?

          [–]Trump_is_ChristFascist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (17子コメント)

          They'd have to find an egg donor, work something out. If they don't have kids, why would they be in my will? They are genetic dead ends, they wouldn't need my money.

          [–]dddaaadddd[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (16子コメント)

          Damn that's pretty cold of you. How would you react if it was your kids that were infertile?

          [–]Trump_is_ChristFascist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (15子コメント)

          I'd say to convince some of my other kids to have even more kids to compensate, and adopt those extra kids

          [–]DoctorMope 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (14子コメント)

          That is ridiculous.

          [–]Trump_is_ChristFascist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (13子コメント)

          If they want a chunk of my shit when i die, they need to have a chunk of the grandchildren, that isn't at all ridiculous.

          [–]DoctorMope 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

          Is that what happened to you?

          [–]Trump_is_ChristFascist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

          Maybe

          [–]DoctorMope 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

          It just seems like a strange system to me. If you love someone, why punish them for something like that?

          [–]uptotwentycharacters 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          What if none of your kids choose to procreate? Who would you include in your will in that case?

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            [–]Trump_is_ChristFascist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Considering that the generation after millennials is the most conservative since WWII, i'd say that its actually only going to get worse 😉

            [–]Yoge5 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Because Hillary was a shit candidate.

            [–]Alchany 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Hillary actually put me into the alt-right.

            [–]Lolercausted 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Electroshock therapy. Turn that fruit into a vegetable.

            [–]Black_knight4449Violent Technocratic Social Liberal 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'd give them love and support and encourage them to not hate themselves for it, as many parents do the opposite.

            [–]THAT-IS-NEAT 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            I see a lot of the answers here have to do with continuing the family line. Is it safe to assume that the main driving force for people in the alt-right movement to have a family is to pass on your genetic material?

            [–]meatduck12Socialist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Pretty much, these people don't want to see the white race ever become a minority in the US.

            [–]BeeTeaEffOhh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            That would be the main driving force for all living organisms, ever.

            [–]lukas8u 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            glad to see you don't think humanity could maybe aspire to something more.

            [–]SocialNationalismIdentitarian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It can't be something more if it doesn't have kids. We think about the foundation of our society.

            [–]TotesMessenger 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            [–]Leverett134 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Lol

            [–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            They might as well just sticky our whole sub and get it over with.

            [–]Maxwyfe 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I honestly wouldn't care. My hypothetical children can be who they want. My bedroom is none of their business and once they are out of my house, their bedroom is none of mine.

            I do have a (step)son who is straight. He is married to a woman and they have 4 children between them (her two + his one + their one). I briefly wondered when he was a child how we would handle things if he were homosexual; but when he knocked up his first girlfriend almost as soon as his balls dropped, it became clear that wasn't going to be an issue.

            [–]KharakIsBurning 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Please tell me you're joking, or otherwise a different fact about your life that doesn't validate stereotypes I would have of you.

            [–]kurokamifrHoppean Ancap 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (15子コメント)

            helicopter ride

            nah i would just disown him unless he have a child

            i dislike sterile sexual relation for hereditary reason

            [–]dddaaadddd[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (14子コメント)

            So i assume if your child was infertile or married someone who was infertile then you would treat them the same?

            [–]kurokamifrHoppean Ancap 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (13子コメント)

            yes

            [–]dddaaadddd[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (12子コメント)

            Thats pretty cruel. How would you feel if your parents disowned you just because of the way you were born?

            [–]kurokamifrHoppean Ancap 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

            i don't care, i see people as dynasty, all dead end are bad

            [–]VestigialPseudogene 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (10子コメント)

            i see people as dynasty

            That explains a lot.

            [–]_hungry_ghost 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

            It is consistent with the only real morality of nature. Survival and propagation.

            [–]lukas8u 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

            Right, so if I can kill you and steal your shit and get away with it, thus increasing the likelihood of my survival, then it is moral.

            [–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Morality is a spook. It's all in your head. It has no real world manifestation. It's not tangible. If you steal from someone of your tribe, making it harder for your tribe to thrive, then you're an idiot though for sure.

            [–]lukas8u 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Why the fuck should I give a shit about my tribe? Genetic similarity to them isn't strong enough to justify cohesion.

            [–]Yoge5 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            appeal to nature fallacy once a-fucking-gain

            [–]SeculariztWhite Nationalist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I don't think I would care really. I'd support them nonetheless.

            [–]mustardtastesgood2 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I will support him and tell him to never be afraid of expressing himself as long as his action do not hurt others, because we live in a free country.

            [–]meatduck12Socialist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            For other confused people - /u/mustardtastesgood2 is not alt-right, the actual alt-right is anti-gay.

            [–]SuperDanceParty 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            With a comment like express yourself as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, he sure as fuck isn't alt right.

            [–]Finop 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I only want children that won't be dead ends. Say the motherfuckers that are still looking to get laid

            [–]sizzletron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Well there's two schools of thought from where I sit:

            1) You're born that way.

            or

            2) You're raised that way.

            Permissiveness as a parent can lead all sorts of places. Clear stewardship has far fewer pitfalls. Advising your children to avoid problems is a thing, too.

            [–]cyathea 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Clear stewardship leads your gay kid onto our SuicideWatch sub, where they might meet me. Do you think gay kids don't realise their life will be a lot harder regardless of any extra difficulty caused by parental rejection?

            [–]tinted_blue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            I'd describe myself and the majority of the alt right ideologically as something like a philosophical evolutionist, in that the only will imposed on man is to fulfill our duty as a member of our species (or race, whatever you want) by means of A. procreation and B. survival, by means of self sustenance, by means of power. You see this with a lot of NatSocs and 1488ers, e.g. large emphasis on the traditional nuclear familial unit and on family, as well as the 14 word creed.

            So, obviously, my kid being gay would be a direct impairment to carrying on my genetic lineage, which is the one and only scientifically objective responsibility I have as an organism. So the logical solution is to make another kid. And, of course, cut my flow of resources towards my gay kid, e.g. if they're an adult kicking them out of my house and not supporting them financially. Am I a "bad" person for doing that? No, I wouldn't say so.

            Morality is very largely subjective and built on our own subjective perceptions of how we perceive society, which, in and of itself, is simply an extension of basic programmed human behavior and instinct. The most objective measure of morality, then, is the alignment of an action with our only actual factual responsibility as living things- the propagation of our kind. So there's no moral inclination (just the opposite, in fact) for me to continue draining resources in a child that fails it's literal only purpose as a living thing. That'd be like burning money. And what I'm saying, I believe, is more correct than the leftist lie of compassion. We don't exist to be nice.

            [–]lukas8u 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            the only will imposed on man is to fulfill our duty as a member of our species (or race, whatever you want) by means of A. procreation and B. survival, by means of self sustenance, by means of power.

            If only you understood that evolution is driven by individual success, not species success. That is why polar bears kill and eat rival cubs.

            So of course, there's nothing immoral in me slitting your throat and taking all your shit, because it benefits my chances of survival/propagating my genes.

            [–]WyvernGuildOfAlbionWhite Nationalist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I think you're going to get a variety of answers for this one.

            If my son was just gay? Honestly, I wouldn't care. I would be dissapointed about not having grandkids, but I also wouldn't cut him off for it.

            If he wanted to dye his hair rainbow, or prance around at a pride parade, or change his gender, then I would either get him therapy or make him dig a ditch. Either way, he's gonna be a man.

            [–]BeeTeaEffOhh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            First: NOOOOOOOOOOooooOoOoooooOoooo!

            Second: I'd talk to them about their options. Mainly that just because one is naturally attracted to the same sex doesn't mean one has to act on those feelings. I am naturally attracted to donuts, but I can refrain from eating them.

            I would probably encourage them to take one of two options.

            1: The preferable option would be to still pursue having a family. The key is to do this openly and honestly by marrying someone of the opposite sex, most likely someone who has a similar predilection. Just because you have same sex urges doesn't mean you can't enter into a stable, marital union with someone of the opposite sex. Someone you like, respect and are compatible with in regards to life goals, values, culture.

            The key would be to be open with this person about your attraction to the same sex and your lack thereof to the opposite sex. But plenty of successful marriages have been had that didn't have sexual attraction as a component. So I don't see why this wouldn't be possible.

            2: The second option if they think they really couldn't pull off the first would be to dedicate themselves to something. Whether that's dedicating themselves to helping out their siblings and their families, like a live in or close by aunt/uncle who can contribute to the raising of nieces and nephews. Or dedicating yourself to some societal goal. Without the demands of a relationship or kids, one is able to truly dedicate yourself to a pursuit that could benefit your people greatly, whether it's in the realm of science, or music or architecture, whatever, they can go full bore into trying to achieve that more grandiose form of greatness that having a family would most likely get int he way of.

            Either way I would heavily discourage them from simply pursuing wanton sex or getting into some farcical same-sex "marriage."

            [–]megaxxx00 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Its not necessarily a bad thing, in the case that I had 4 kids one of them being gay can be a safety net for the other 3 kids in case they run into financial difficulties the homo can just support them, but the will will be based on my grand kids not my kids.

            [–]razethekaaba 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I'd be disappointed, and I wouldn't be sure how to raise them. I don't think sexual preference can be changed, nor do I think homosexuality or even butt sex is de facto immoral, like some of these people. I'm also not anti-adoption, but I get the idea of genetic dead ends. I think encouraging them to produce offspring would be worse; that really is confusing nature. Because they are either not going to marry the other parent, marry the other parent but keep the same-sex lover, or have some living arrangement where mommy and daddy and mommy's girlfriend/daddy's boyfriend are all raising the child. It doesn't seem as healthy.

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              [–]razethekaaba 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Wow, burnt me good, bucko. I guess it really is Nerf or nothin.

              [–]Leverett134 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              I'd ask myself is he actually gay or just looking for attention? If I believed he was actually gay I'd push fir him to get in the economic sector rather than what would be considered traditional gay jobs. I'd also try to impress on him that I dont want to have his faggy friends around as I find em irritating as fuck.

              If my son turned out to be a fag hopefully he'd be a well off alpha fag

              [–]Leverett134 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Id be disappointed though and would probably have to man up and bury those feeling in my wifes vagina (angry sex)

              [–]icefire54Identitarian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              As long as he becomes like Ryan Faulk, it's all good.

              [–]NESIRGNIKWhite Nationalist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Take him put back and put him out of his disease spreading child molesting misery.

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              [–]agotasaidwhat 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

              I would accept that, if ~5% of population are homosexuals, then there's ~5% chance of me having a gay kid, that's just the reality.

              I'd be much more worried about gay son than about a lesbian daughter because of the promiscuity among gay men.

              I'd do my best to educate him about that since I wouldn't want him to get an STD.

              I just learned about the whole disease thing in another thread :D

              [–]NESIRGNIKWhite Nationalist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

              The genetically gay population is extremely low.

              [–]agotasaidwhat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Source please?

              [–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

              There is no such thing as a genetic homosexual. It's a hormonal disorder (see: endocrine, which also causes autism) or a psychological condition.

              100% of the gay population are not genetically gay.

              [–]agotasaidwhat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Sources please?

              [–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Maybe later, I'm on mobile and out of town until next month.

              [–]Nebula153 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              What he's trying to say that he has no sources or doesn't care enough to find any.

              [–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              0% is pretty low, yeah.

              [–]NESIRGNIKWhite Nationalist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

              There are some genetic causes, but it is a very low amount.

              [–]SuperDanceParty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              There are no direct genetic causes. They are hormonal dysfunctions which are genetic, but only constitute a predisposition to developing sexual differentiation, the genes themselves do not dictate the sexuality, but the endocrine produced by the hormonal glands can cause it to develop, anytime between pregnancy and adolescence. This is actually the primary cause of it (or was, until the Millennial generation fetishized homosexuality)

              Anyone saying it's genetic was just spinning the interpretation of the evidence. A surprising amount of the relationship between biology and psychology is disputable based on interpretation. In the end, we should be as accurate as possible in our descriptions, and saying that homosexuality is genetic implies there is a gene explicitly for it, which there isn't.

              Hormonal imbalances and endocrine are also not strictly related to homosexuality. Endocrine has also been linked to autism, and I'm sure, other disorders.

              There are varying degrees of intensity in the predispositions for homosexuality, and perhaps that's why it's been interpreted as genetic at a certain point.

              [–]SerengetiYeti 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Must've been a pain in the ass to type that on mobile.