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[–]Celeos 385 ポイント386 ポイント  (95子コメント)

But PC has wayyyyyy more exclusives. Just google it.

[–]The_Real_BlackVive 196 ポイント197 ポイント  (46子コメント)

"...but this games are made for all the comupter so these are not exclusives... yeah!" - peasant

[–]absoluteollyAbsoluteOlly 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (41子コメント)

"...Computers only exist to test games to make better exclusives for consoles"

[–]callsoutbullcrapIntel i5 4690, AMD r9 M290 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (38子コメント)

"... PC sucks. My glorious PS4 pro can run anything at 30fps, which is faster than the human eye can see." -another peasant

[–]DASmetal 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (35子コメント)

I admit that last night cemented the decision for me to never own a console again once I figured out how to get in to 144fps territory. My eyeballs orgasmed.

[–]kwertyuiop980, a screen, one or two rams 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (24子コメント)

I regret 144fps. It's glorious but now I need to either lower my settings or settle for less than max fps, even with a 980. Either my 144fps monitor wasn't worth it, or my 980 feels like it wasn't worth it cause I can't do max graphics and have both.

[–]Lurking4AnswersGTX 960 SSC, i3-4160, 8GB 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (3子コメント)

but your 980 IS worth it because if you bought a lesser card you wouldn't be able to do 144fps in the first place on a lot of games.

[–]kwertyuiop980, a screen, one or two rams 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey you're right! That's good advice, you should comment on a pc gaming subreddit or something.

[–]Lurking4AnswersGTX 960 SSC, i3-4160, 8GB 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wanted to help you feel better about your purchase, man.

[–]totallytmanSpecs/Imgur Here 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Best response

[–]sinoost 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

A few weeks ago after playing forever witcher 3 at 100 frames 1440p I played some dirt rally and really felt like a high frame rate arcade racer. After installing nfs most wanted 2012 I got sick of 60 fps cap so I tried rivals 2014 the game is capped at 30 frames. I honestly felt sick the game looks great but Jesus Christ 30 frames was like masturbating with a pair of rusty scissors.

[–]kwertyuiop980, a screen, one or two rams 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I tried Fable 3 on Xbox 360 a while ago. It had, like, 3 times the legal limit on motion blur and fucking 20 fps. I didn't know we went that low, the only time I've seen fps that low was with the N64 when they were just figuring out what 3d graphics were. 30fps is unplayable.

[–]TheLinuxFolderFX 6300, GTX 560, 8GB RAM 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a legal limit for motion blur?

[–]XxD4NKxM3M3xL0RDxXG3258 @ 4.4 GHz | 8GB RAM | Intel HD Graphics 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a drunk joke

[–]aP1atypusi5 4690K @4.6Ghz / MSI GTX 980 Ti 6G 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget that simply being 144hz significantly decreases screen tearing. It's worth it.

[–]adjust_madi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same happened with me but 60FPS, once it clicked, 30 FPS feels lethargic. Nowadays I usually lower the graphical settings to get 60 FPS.

[–]NCRranger24https://www.youtube.com/user/NCRranger24 shameless plug 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, and I was just arguing with some peasants in the youtube comments of the "Ubisoft downgrades" video, about how people shouldn't have to settle for low fps and bad graphics. One of them called me "spoiled by higher graphics". He was right. 60fps is just too good

[–]fuleamakkup4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was just arguing with some peasants in the youtube comments

Why would you argue about anything in Youtube comments? You certainly aren't going to win any arguments on there. It's a much bigger waste of time than Reddit (and I should know because it's 5 in the morning and I still haven't done what I needed to do yesterday).

[–]JaketheAlmightyGTX Titan X Tri-SLI 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

time to buy more video cards mate

[–]kwertyuiop980, a screen, one or two rams 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Buyer's remorse but every time a game doesn't allow SLI it gets faster

[–]DASmetal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Really? I'm hitting it with a 970/i7 6700k. It'll dip down depending on the game though. The Division was giving me around 80ish this morning, but Siege will give me around 111-130s.

[–]kwertyuiop980, a screen, one or two rams 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe my processor is the limiting factor, I have a 4690k that I haven't overclocked.

[–]AwesomeMcradhttps://imgur.com/gallery/xfvb7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

overclocking to around 4.5 will defo help.

[–]SikletrynetMSI GTX 1080, i5 6600K, 16B RAM, 1080p144Hz+4K FreeSync Monitor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly i've started to accept lower FPS now that i'm playing in 4K. It's just too good

[–]Goof245Specs/Imgur here 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Other side effect is you'll start to notice input lag at 60fps once you're used to 120fps+ Can be mitigated by turning off Vsync, but then you end up with inconsistent frametimes / input lag plus much more noticeable tearing :(

[–]NCRranger24https://www.youtube.com/user/NCRranger24 shameless plug 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I technically should be able to do 144fps but my CPU hold me back.

[–]BillWrosch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It might be your CPU bottlenecking your system if you can't keep a steady rate. And with regards to choosing between 144fps and highest settings, I find 120fps to be a good compromise in that situation. Similarly, I max framerate in competitive games, whereas in something single player or non-competitive, I'm happy to sacrifice framerate for better graphics.

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    [–]ResolveHKSteam ID Here 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    144fps ruined movies for me.

    especially 3d movies.

    giveme60fpsmoviesplease

    [–]argv_minus_oneSpecs/Imgur Here 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    giveme144fpsmoviesplease

    FTFY

    [–]LiveonafarmAMD A8 6600K, 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ, 1TB & 320GB HDD, MSI R7 370 4GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    A 1080p movie @144Hz would be like >100GB.

    [–]Slimefella 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    A lot of people would go to the cinema for that quality though.

    [–]LiveonafarmAMD A8 6600K, 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ, 1TB & 320GB HDD, MSI R7 370 4GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I doubt their projectors would be able to do 144hz considering it is never used. Besides, I never am amazed by the quality even in IMAX. The picture seemed fuzzy to me.

    [–]Uesugi1989 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Am I the only one that think the difference from 60Hz to higher refresh rate is insignificant and almost nondetectable? Coming from a 1440p/60 Hz monitor , I got my new pg348q a few days ago , overclocked it to 100Hz and decided to replay the tomb raider reboots on it first, starting with the 2013 one . My 1070 can average around 90 frames ( during the in game benchmark, I never use an fps counter during gaming ) but I can hardly tell the difference. Not 144 Hz but I imagine the jump from 100 to 144 will be even smaller than 60 to 100. I want to try playing at 100 Hz for a few weeks and then drop back to 60 to see if I can tell the difference then. The same with gsync, I don't get all this fuss about it, I can't even tell if it is on or not .

    The real deal imo is the 21-9 aspect ratio, literally going back to 16-9 is really painful. The ips colours are also very nice . For everyone wondering, the curved panel doesn't make any difference .

    If someone asks my advise for a monitor upgrade and the options are 1440p/144Hz, 4k/60Hz and 1440p ultrawide , the uw is the clear winner , not even a competition for me

    [–]DASmetal 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Honestly, I wouldn't be able to tell you. I was running HDMI through mine at first like a fool, and made the DVI change last night. I saw an immediate impact in the performance and display, absolutely phenomenal, from web browsing, videos, games, even my desktop. The 4K UW display is not something I'm familiar with, although I'm sure it is a huge step up from 1440/144hz.

    [–]Wauwosaurus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wouldn't be able to play without a 144hz monitor. Every game feels super laggy, it is painful to play. I definitely notice a difference worth 300$.

    The first time I got to try it out was at a gaming internet café. My eyes had an orgasm. A week later I was a proud owner of a 144hz monitor.

    [–]joza76[🍰] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Honestly after playing Rocket League and CSGO at exclusively 144hz, playing at 60hz on those games makes me feel sick

    [–]lilpandaFx 6300 @4.1ghz gtx 750 ti 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    God we all know the human eye can't see above 12 for 30 is way to high I think I would get a headache

    [–]peachoftreei7-2600, GTX 760, 12GB DDR3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    but it's CINEMATIC!!

    [–]Runnin_Mike4790k @ 4.7GHz / GTX 980 Ti / 16GB 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    "Computers are for spreadsheets"

    Quote from Phil Phish. I'm glad that arrogant pretentious bastard left the industry. That guy doesn't deserve to work with the medium.

    [–]douglaspilgrimWin10 | FX 6300 | GTX 750ti | 8gb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The worst part is that is quite common to find game developers hating our platform. Sometimes they know 60fps makes a difference for some people but they can't notice it.

    [–]dongusschlongus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I know it's a type but somehow 'comupter' just works so well.

    [–]The_Real_BlackVive 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    no it was all planed so * nervous eye twitching *

    [–]DigitalFruitcakei5-6600 | GTX 1060 | 8GB DDR4 | BenQ XL2730Z 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This is too ironic

    [–]PrepaidMexican1 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (18子コメント)

    Quantity doesn't relate to quality. Although I love ARMA 3, Insurgency, along with Mount and Blade, console does have great exclusives such as Heavy Rain and the Last of US

    [–]GigadweebGigabyte GTX 1070 | i7 6700k 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (14子コメント)

    and Bloodborne. And Demon's Souls. And SSB. And Metroid. Aaaaand Pokémon.

    [–]PiGuy3014GT 755M i7 4700MQ 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    People don't tend to count Nintendo as console crowd. Nintendo doesn't compete with PC or with Xbox/PS, allowing consumers to own 2 easily.

    [–]LlorchDurdenDj Wafflesnatcha McOwnage 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    allowing consumers to own 2 ealisy

    WHAT?

    [–]charliebrownnzI5 4690K | r9 390x | 16GB Ram 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Nintendo are the worst and most stereotypical console that deserves scorn. Nintendo does compete, it is just another proprietary system holding software hostage on thier hardware.

    [–]Lizard_Beansi5 4460 RX480 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, but the software is fun and the platform is ok-ish so it still works quite well against PC. If Nintendo had the resources of a full PC with 4k@144 and VR they'd probably still make the same games.

    [–]SenorBeef 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    No, Nintendo is fine. Nintendo doesn't drag down PC gaming because they focus on the things that consoles are good at - casual games, couch co-op, etc. If Nintendo-style consoles were the only thing available PC gaming would be great, because we wouldn't be holding our technology back by having to share all our games with the shitbox consoles. That's what really affects us - not someone playing Wii Sports or Zelda, but dumbing down Call of Duty to make it playable by console bros.

    [–]sasmithjr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nintendo doesn't drag down PC gaming because they focus on the things that consoles are good at - casual games, couch co-op, etc.

    This seems like an amazingly arbitrary distinction to make. There's zero reason a PC wouldn't be good at those things. And the only reason Nintendo consoles don't get Call of Duty anymore is because no one wants to play CoD on them; it's not that Nintendo doesn't try, but that publishers realize there's no money there. CoD was being released on the Wii/U, and it just didn't sell well.

    There's zero reason Nintendo couldn't release its games on PC, too.

    [–]SenorBeef 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Consoles used to develop their own hardware and have basically a separate ecosystem from PC. PC gaming had almost no overlap with the super nintendo or the playstation one.

    The first Xbox changed all that. It was just a shitty PC in a box that ran X86 code. So it could run PC games, just not all that well, and with very little user control, no upgradability, etc. But it got an edge on traditional consoles that ran specialized hardware because it basically piggybacked off the technological superiority of PCs compared to other consoles.

    And that became the trend afterwards for MS and Sony - they cater to the "hardcore" console market that wants the same games PCs get, but they drag gaming down by forcing them to develop multiplatform games for the lowest common denominator.

    Sony and MS tried to essentially uplift consoles by dragging PC gaming back.

    But Nintendo didn't do that - they kept the traditional focus of what consoles did and didn't try to compete and drag down PC gaming. Nintendo isn't what's holding back and damaging gaming as a whole - MS and Sony are.

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      [–]totallytmanSpecs/Imgur Here 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      And that is why people own a console in conjunction with a PC.

      [–]GigadweebGigabyte GTX 1070 | i7 6700k 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      yep. I own the past few Sony consoles, along with the 3DS (and I'll probably pick up a used Wii U and the Switch when it comes out) specifically for exclusives. I don't mind as much as most posters here do, there are a good few games worth buying a console alone for, like the aforementioned DeS and Bloodborne.

      [–]Pastelitomaracucho 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Zelda

      [–]Celeos 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I never said that it does, just that there are more chances for great ones with more exclusives. The Last of Us was great.

      [–]maxiimus1i7 3770 - GTX 980 Ti - 8GB DDR3 RAM 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Mount and Blade Warband is available on Xbox One. Dunno about Ps4.

      [–]Neatoi5-3570k | AMD 7950 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      1. 4 exclusives I might want to play. 2 from PS3 and 2 from PS4. PS3 was a great investment as a blu-ray player. But at $1-200 a game those exclusives aren't anywhere near worth it.

      [–]CommandufSpecs/Imgur Here 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Tbf I do kinda feel we get it in the shorts when it comes to exclusives though, god I would kill to have a pc version of little big planet :(

      [–]fleshnbonesFX-6300|GTX 960 4GB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      See as someone that's pretty new and novice to PC gaming I never understood this (consoles having more exclusives) because as I'm finding out, PC has entire genres that are not on consoles lol.

      [–]Bloodroti5 4690k, 8gb ram, GTX 970 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Not trying to sound like a big console-defender blasphemer (inb4 PC gaming lynch mob). But most of those "waaaaaaayyyyyyy more exclusives" are just 8-bit sidescrollers and isometric RTS games and all that, hardly any of an AAA build.

      I know, I know. We had Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Project Cars, Witcher 2, Star Citizen, and such. Amazing beautiful titles with a AAA veneer.

      I'm merely pointing out those are a very small piece of the pie. It just seems dishonest to flaunt our amazing array of exclusives when probably 70% of them are pixelly point-and-click adventures and whatnot.

      [–]Tehnomaag 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      The list of interesting exclusives for console is rather ... short as well.

      While on PC side you have entire genres not present on consoles. Like, for example games like EVE Online, World of Warcraft, MOBAs (although there are now some attemts at that as well ofc on consoles) and Dwarf Fortress.

      [–]localpolice1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      All 3 of those genres are available on ps4 (dunno about xbone), though not the best representatives

      [–]Tehnomaag 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Really? Toady one has ported Dwarf Fortress over to a console?

      I must have missed this news.

      Just to be sure we are talking about the same game - Dwarf Fortress is a game made by two brothers over the past 20 years and is an source of inspiration to a lot of other games including, for example, Minecraft, RimWorld and countless others. It has a very basic ASCII graphics and has complexity of mythical proportions. Normally its learning curve is considered in years before one truly masters this awesome thing. But praise AMOK, blood for the blood god! It's now heading to consoles!

      This is one of the genres basically absent on consoles. The roguelikes - classics like ADOM or Netchak.

      As far as EVE goes - closest a console player can get to flying in that universe in foreseaable future will be the VR shooter Valkyrie.

      WoW - well I'm really not sure if its present or not. I would be really surprised though as it kinda sucks without access to a full keyboard for gazillion relevant shortcuts.

      [–]nearlyNonMSI GL62 6QF 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      What about the entire genres missing from consoles? Roguelikes, tycoon games, text adventures, tabletop RPG engines or board game engines, simulation games....

      [–]Christian_JakeR9 280x i7-2600 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There are roguelikes on consoles but you're still right.

      [–]nicket 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Sure, but part of what makes up the large amount of exclusives on PC is also the fact that it is backwards compatible more than 20+ years. Xbone and PS4 are starting to catch up on that, but there are plenty of games that weren't PC exclusive when they came out that you can still play on PC but not on current gen consoles. Take the Mass Effect trilogy for example, which in practical terms is now exclusive to PC and Xbone since the PS4 can't play those games.

      [–]demiseSH 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Vanishing of Ethan Carter is on the PS4, project cars on both Xbox and PS4, and the witcher 2 on Xbox 360. Star Citizen is the only PC exclusive you listed.

      [–]lord-carlos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I wanted to say We also have Age Of Empires 2! as an PC exclusive, but apparently there is a PS2 version of AoEII.

      Then I wanted to say we have TF2, but apparently there was a console port. Though no more active players.

      Anyhow, at least we have Eve :)

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        [–]plane_plain 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Considering I can also emulate everything that's a bit older, I'd argue the PC's exclusives contain more smash hits too. There are more SNES games that I would want to play than there are great PS4 games.

        [–]Velrix 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        But Last of Us is hands down one of if not the best written game I have ever played. I have no doubt if it was on PC and Xbox it would have been the biggest game ever created.

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          [–]HameehamAMD FX8320e 4.0GHz, 16 gb hyperx ram 1600 MHz, R9 390X 85 ポイント86 ポイント  (28子コメント)

          they got to me though... i bought a ps4 just for uncharted4, last of us, and final fantsy 15... sadly i gotta endure playing while the sound of a jet engine overlapping the game sound

          [–]million100 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Try Bloodborne if you like Dark Souls.

          [–]MasterEnequator 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Yes. Bloodborne. please play bloodborne, its the only reason acceptable for enduring jet engine

          [–]harnikaffe4670K @ 4.4GHz | 12GB RAM | EVGA 1070 FTW | 144Hz 1080p 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Bloodborne is the only reason I bought a PS4 Slim. Looking forward to Nier Automata, Gravity Rush 2 and Ni-Oh.

          [–]lagadui7 6800k / inno3d gtx 1080 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Nier Automata is also coming out for PC.

          [–]5thvoice4670k@4.6 | 7970@1180 | 32GB DDR3@1866 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          If you don't care about warranty, you can always watercool your PS4.

          [–]CaptainCupcakezR9 280X | i5 6600k 4.3Ghz | 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I wonder to what extent you could actually improve the performance of a PS4.

          As far as I know you can watercool and swap out the hard-drive (would an SSD work?), but I'm fairly confident swapping any other parts would brick it.

          [–]slicshuterAMD FX 8350 | Zotac GTX 970 | 8GB | Corsair Air 240 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Same here, I think PS4 has better exclusives than PC. It has much less, but 90% of PC exclusives are tiny indie games that I have zero interest in.

          Not even gonna buy PS Plus, still got a PS4 for Uncharted 4, Last Guardian, Horizon, Detroit: Become Human, Death Stranding (depends on if/when it releases on PC), Last of Us Pt II, Red Dead Redemption 2, Bloodborne and who knows what else is gonna be announced next year.

          And for the record, I'm still PC primarily, but you gotta admit PS4 at least has a lot of amazing exclusives. Sony was smart in that aspect.

          [–]fleshnbonesFX-6300|GTX 960 4GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          And my favorite superhero has an ps4 exclusive game coming, I honestly have to say I think this ps4 slim was worth it, especially at $249, that's a fucking steal.

          [–]slicshuterAMD FX 8350 | Zotac GTX 970 | 8GB | Corsair Air 240 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I got the Uncharted 4 bundle a week ago along with The Last Guardian, absolutely worth it.

          [–]OyabunRyoLaboonTheWhale 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          After adding noctuas into my system and I booted up my PS4, damn those tiny fans are annoying

          [–]_______Blink_______ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Y'know, I have so many issues with my PS4 in general but the fans have never been one of them. Mine are silent 95% of the time, and I've never been around a PS4 that's been particularly loud.

          Does anyone know if there are regional differences in production that would explain why only some apparently are loud as fuck?

          I know where you store your system is a factor but this is /r/pcmasterrace, most of us know where to/not to put our stuff

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            [–]CaptainRan4690K, 980ti 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (25子コメント)

            Ah Trixy Tang. Represents console peasants pretty well. They both needs constant validation that their existence matters.

            Edit: spelling

            [–]Bloodroti5 4690k, 8gb ram, GTX 970 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (24子コメント)

            their existence matters

            Well, it does. Like it or not, because consoles are the focal point of the gaming industry because most people have them and thus are where all the money lies. The reason we have multi-million AAA games is because of consoles.

            Case in point: The lead designer of Witcher 3 himself said if they made Witcher 3 PC exclusive, the game wouldn't be nearly as large as it was. Because the sales projections of a PC-only release were waaaaaay too low to rationalize such a big AAA budget.

            Ergo,

            The reason we have the 200+ hours of Witcher 3 in a gigantic and beautiful RPG world is because people on the Xbox One and PS4 wanted to buy it.

            So yes, the existence of consoles matters. It fucking matters. A lot.

            [–]HardKnockRiffe 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (14子コメント)

            I mean, this is super rational; but it in no way enhances the circle jerk going on here, so I'm gonna need you to stop it.

            [–]TheRealCreamytoastHP Pavilion (cancer, i know) 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (11子コメント)

            But if everyone was on a pc, it would be the same.

            [–]Bloodroti5 4690k, 8gb ram, GTX 970 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

            But if we were all rich as fuck, the world would be a a better place and there would be no hunger or poverty.

            These "but if PC..." and "but if console..." statements are totally worthless.

            Fact of the matter remains. More people own consoles (for various reasons that I don't see the merit in rewriting here) and because consoles are the largest market developers make their games with consoles as their main focus of attention. Simple as that. [Most] Games are made for console first and PC second.

            Yeah, my super nice PC hardware let's me get better stuff like sharper pixels and a higher framerate. But the game still uses console meshes, models, textures, lighting, animations, coding, etc. It's built around that. When I play a AAA game on PC, 99% of the time I'm playing a game that was built around the technical ceiling of the console and have prettied it up with my GTX 970.

            But I'm digressing. And I've had this conversation a bajillion times before. I love PC gaming, I am a PC gamer. And I used to like this sub.

            But we've honestly created such a toxic culture of blind bigotry and irrational hate here. It's just awful. It's a huge circle jerk of bullshit and elitism.

            [–]AquaspindleEVGA GTX 1070 SC, Intel i5 6600 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Aye mate, as someone from a third world country, I can confirm that pc gaming is still cheaper. My PC would say so otherwise, but most people here don't use consoles because the games are so expensive.

            [–]kazez2༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            A new console game is friggin expensive when it will cost you at least 1/5 of ps4 or xbone, not including the monthly fee.

            [–]mrlinkwiiintel hd 4000,people usally hate me , im a failure at life 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            not including the monthly fee.

            you do realize you dont have to pay that monthly fee

            [–]imsofuckingfatIt's dead :( 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Let's be real, online is where most of the fun is at nowadays.

            [–]dragon-storytellerAthlon X4 860K | R7 360 | 8GB 1600MHz RAM 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Explain why singleplayer-only games are still so popular, then.

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                [–]TheZephyrimi5 4460 GTX 950 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                Right, the money was there, but tell me would you give up 100 hours of that for a game with significantly better graphics? That would have happened if TW3 were an exclusive.

                It's like Star Citizen, sure it may not sell as much but it's a damned work of art.

                [–]Bloodroti5 4690k, 8gb ram, GTX 970 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Lmao. Star Citizen has been in development hell. Years and years we've just been getting teased and all. And we still don't have a 100% complete game and how fucking long have we been waiting? Lol. I didn't support the kicktsrater and don't regret it all.

                See I'd rather get a professionaly AAAmade polished game that is multiplatform rather than a PC exclusive with shiny graphics that is an 8 hour puzzler like Vanishing of Ethan Carter or hugely ambitous game that is struggling with its own ambition like Star Citizen.

                [–]DoktorAkcelDell 3521, i5, AMD 7670m, 8gb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You dare to say something against SC?????

                BLASPHEMY! BURN THE DEVIL!

                [–]redchris18 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Star Citizen has been in development for about 60% of the time it took to get GTA 5 onto PCs. The only reason people are getting impatient is because you heard about it far earlier than you usually do.

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                  [–]UR-NOT-MY-SUPERVISOR 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  But what if all the people with consoles used PCs instead? Same number of sales, and wouldn't have to waste time optimising for inferior systems

                  [–]localpolice1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Eh no, not everyone cann afford a pc that can run witcher 3 and sales would still remain bad

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                    [–]Seekerend 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Imagine Bloodboune would be on pc... game is so fast and fluid, yet it gets the 30fps lock, making it feel like a jittery mess.

                    [–]SoloMaelGigabyte R9 380 | Intel Core i5-6500 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Better install BBFix

                    [–]andrewmacneilAndrewmmacneil 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                    Just for a moment of peasentry (im sorry my brkthers) BUT i do miss halo (ik theres that russian version but it just doesnt hit me) pleasedonthateme

                    [–]tilted21i7-4790k | Strix 1080 OC | 16gb DDR3 | 256gb SSD +2tb HDD| K70 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                    Halo 5 Forge is free on the microsoft store. They've recently added custom games too. Check it out.

                    [–]usernameisusername57R9 290/i5-4690k/8gb RAM 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    Yeah, but Halo 5 isn't really Halo. If they were to release the Master Chief Collection (or even just Halo 3) on PC I would probably shit my pants in excitement.

                    [–]andrewmacneilAndrewmmacneil 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    SO TRUE

                    [–]SupaStaVincePhenom II x6 1045t | GTX 660 | 2x 4GB DDR3 Dual-channel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Please not MCC. God no. JustHalo3andwe'llbegood

                    [–]Pacman4484i3-6300, GTX 950, and other stuff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    It has all of the halo games does it not? I see nothing wrong with that

                    [–]LeviAEthan512i7 6700K, GTX 1070 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    The multiplayer system was a shitstorm. I think the campaign was fine, though. I could never afford XBL so that would be more than enough for me

                    [–]Boygos 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    Halo 5 is definitely still Halo. If anything it's a more fluid, next gen and competitive based game than Halo 4 and Reach. Obviously it can't scratch the community for 3 and 2, but it's definitely better than previous entries

                    [–]5thvoice4670k@4.6 | 7970@1180 | 32GB DDR3@1866 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    But there's no campaign.

                    [–]usernameisusername57R9 290/i5-4690k/8gb RAM 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    5 was a decent game, but it felt more like CoD with a Halo skin. I think you could definitley make the argument that it was better than Reach or 4, but those were my least favorite Halo games. I still maintain that adding sprint and loadouts was a mistake as it took away two of the things that made Halo so great (map control and equal start).

                    [–]Boygos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    There are no loadouts in 5 tho. I'll agree that the story is shit in 5, but as someone who has well over 400 hours on the game, I really don't think it's very much like CoD at all, but that's just me

                    [–]the_brainiac_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    isn't Forge just the map creator for Halo 5? but yeah with UWP windows 10 will have a lot of xbox exclusive games

                    [–]Xperr7i7 4700HQ GTX 750m 2GB 8GB RAM 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    It was released with private custom games and recently got a server browser

                    [–]asdfth12 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    I'd love for H3 to be out on PC, but what really pisses me off is that Microsoft decides to be pants on head retarded and release the first Halo Wars as a console exclusive.

                    It terms of controls, some types of games are better on console than PC. Some games are neutral on platforms.

                    RTS games are, by far, one of the genres that would be better served by PC controls instead of console controls.

                    [–]charliebrownnzI5 4690K | r9 390x | 16GB Ram 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    No game is better on consoles than pc. Some games may be better on a controller, but that is not something limited to consoles. I've just finished playing gears of war 4 in split screen on the living room TV on my pc with my wife and it was great. I moved it from the office, plugged in a wireless mouse and keyboard and Xbox receiver and HDMI and it worked first time A console is just a locked down, limited pc now.

                    [–]asdfth12 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    You missed the first part of a sentence, In terms of controls.

                    I wasn't saying that games play better on consoles themselves, I was referring to what is traditionally the different controls used for PCs and Consoles. Some games are better with traditional PC controls, some are better with traditional console controls, and some work equally well on both.

                    I further specified that in the next sentence, but apparently you missed that sentence too.

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                      [–]TheShorterBus 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                      I mean. Console is not better, it's worse in many ways. But when your favorite developer in the gaming industry is owned by Sony, and a lot of your favorite games in the past few years were exclusive to console. Makes it hard not to have one on the side.

                      [–]Hassadar 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                      Naughty dog plz. PC is a friendly place. Make something for us :(

                      [–]TheShorterBus 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      Right!! At least R* is making games on PC now!

                      [–]Hassadar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      Yup. I just hate when money dictates the scene. We have a company like CDProjekt Red who are a smaller company than say Naughty Dog when it comes to manpower and yet they have no problem releasing a game for both consoles and PC. Naughty Dog are more than capable of making it for more platforms but getting paid a shit ton by Sony to keep it exclusive

                      I really don't want to buy another console just to play a select few games but its getting the point where I might just have to bite the bullet. It sucks missing out on uncharted 4 and now TLOU2

                      Edit: completely forgot ND is owned by Sony

                      [–]faihundredallai7 2600K + RX 470 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Getting paid a shit ton to keep it exclusive? Naughty Dog IS Sony. PCMR really needs to learn the difference between first party and third party developers.

                      [–]charliebrownnzI5 4690K | r9 390x | 16GB Ram 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Imagine if Sony limited thier music to being played on Sony stereos. That is what they are doing for gaming and why people shouldn't buy thier shit.

                      [–]faihundredallai7 2600K + RX 470 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      If that made any business sense for them I'm sure they'd be doing it.

                      It's not like this is even unique to Sony. Can you play any Valve game without steam? Any recent EA game without origin? Gsync on an AMD card? Freesync on Nvidia? I could go on and on. I guess we should stop buying their shit unless these anti-consumer companies start catering to every whim of PCMR then?

                      Like it or not exclusivity is simply the reality of doing business. It's how you differentiate your product from the competition. Getting mad at Sony for not porting games they funded and developed to sell playstations is pointless, and frankly, stupid.

                      [–]Hassadar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Oh shit you're right. My apologies. I think I just got caught up with anger with games being developed just for one platform that I forgot they acquired ND. Well within their right to release it on PlayStation only. Just annoys me more than it probably should.

                      [–]IISuperSlothII 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      They are owned by Sony, it's not a question of 'which platforms shall we put this game on' , it's 'which game can we create to push the Sony platform forward' because they are the Sony platform.

                      They have even said without the Sony takeover they wouldn't of had the assets and support necessary to create the games they do.

                      [–]maloviv4690K|rx 470 nitro 4gb|16gb|hd600 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      pc doesn't make as much money as the contract with sony :(

                      [–]7neoxis1337i7 4790K(4.6ghz) | Fury X | 16gb DDR3 | Corsair 460X | XG270HU 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      PS4 exclusives are pretty good tbh

                      [–]sleepnandhiken 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Isn't this post ironic? The only people who really bring it up seem to be pc fans.

                      [–]therandomlance 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      That pretty much the whole point of this sub

                      [–]Unpacer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I still want to play Bloodborne though :(

                      [–]Calculusbitch5960X @ 4.55Ghz 1.3v | GTX 980 Matrix Platinum 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I am going to move and probably has to leave my 2500 dollar PC behind. Looking to buy a console and man, they have some GREAT exclusives. Looking forward to play games like Nioh, FF15, Uncharted, last of us.

                      [–]OroeraSpecs/Imgur here 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      TELL ME MY GRAPHICS ARE PRETTY!!

                      [–]BetterMyLifeThrowawaTotally likes drugs 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                      Console has exclusives I am actually interested in

                      Detroit: Become Human

                      God Of War 4

                      Spider-Man

                      Heavy Rain

                      Etc

                      [–]ChimpsixSpecs/Imgur here 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      You know gears is on pc right? lmao

                      [–]BetterMyLifeThrowawaTotally likes drugs 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Shit, I meant God of War

                      [–]DoktorAkcelDell 3521, i5, AMD 7670m, 8gb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Only fourth one, though.

                      [–]btg7471i5-6600 3.3 GHz / GTX 1060 SC / 16GB DDR4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      And the first one

                      [–]DoktorAkcelDell 3521, i5, AMD 7670m, 8gb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Huh, didn't knew. I played only the first one, on Xbox

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                        [–]YCB_BullseyeWC 4790k, WC GTX 1070 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        I mean sure, but in my opinion console exclusives are much better. I'd trade every PC exclusive to be able to play Bloodborne and Halo and fuck maybe even dabble in some Destiny.

                        [–]nuclear_bumDesktop: i3-6100, GTX 1050 Ti | Laptop: i7-3517u 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I just want FFXV. Pls SqEnix.

                        [–]Neatoi5-3570k | AMD 7950 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Maybe in a year when they rebuild it from the ground up. Or they said something like that. Maybe we'll get the Enhanced Edition where they fix the story.

                        [–]gabokike99PCMR/3DS 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Imho I've always thought PC + console is the way to go.

                        [–]Catlikejammiisfits 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Yess, too many great games on ps4 to ignore.

                        [–]Geicosellscrap 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Pc Console Portables Phones

                        In order of casualness.

                        [–]Bryanj117i5-6600k | GTX 1070 | 16GB Ram 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        As someone whos owned an xbox and a PC. I can say that THE ONLY game i've ever felt i really missed out on. Was : The Last of us

                        But... 1 golden goose isn't enough

                        [–]SenorBeef 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You can play Last of Us on PS NOW on PC I think. Or whatever their streaming service is called.

                        [–]kingkobalt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        The Last Guardian looks pretty special to be fair

                        [–]redchris18 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Just watch a playthrough - you'll get almost the exact same amount of interactivity.

                        Naughty Dog have a fabulous sense of compelling storylines, but their gameplay has never been any good. Original Tomb Raider had better mechanics.

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                          [–]doveenigma136600K GTX 1080 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Well PS4 has uncharted and the last of us.

                          But that's about it.

                          [–]Rapmaster437 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Well, I would like to play those games but its getting the point where I might want to play than there are entire genres not present on consoles.

                          [–]harrybc89 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I like it when PCs and one console have an exclusive while the other consoles don't have that game

                          [–]SpitLashesi5 6600K OC'd, GTX 1070, 16GB DDR4, RM650x, 21:9 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          I think the exclusives argument is dumb, especially because I am never gonna buy a console, just to play the last of us and uncharted 4 at 30fps!!!

                          [–]OMG_NoReally 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I love gaming on PC, don't get me wrong, but consoles do have better and more meaningful exclusives. Quality > quantity. The only reason I still have my PS4 is to play all the exclusives which, let's be fair, run phenomenally well on the system. Except The Last Guardian, that game ran like a piece of shit.

                          [–]SenorBeef 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          No, they really don't. You just take for granted that you have access to hundreds of awesome exclusives that you don't even really think about as exclusives because you have access to them - whereas the 3 or 4 games you really want but can't have stand out to you.

                          [–]boundbylifeSpecs/Imgur Here 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          'Console Exclusive' either means that someone paid a lot of money to lock it down, or the devs couldn't get it to run at 60fps.

                          [–]Matt7531 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I brought that up to a peasant once but then he said "yeah but nobody buys a pc for those because they are all indie games and AAA is better" then i said "oh ok then, what so you prefer your games to be overpriced at 60$, still have microtransaction even though it was 60$, have dlc packs because the game isnt complete even after paying 60$, lack of support from devs, and most of the time AAA games nowadays are cpmplete shit!

                          [–]JazzThreeGTX 970 | i7-5820K | 24'' 1440p screen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Playstation Now.

                          [–]Masterjul011070 i5 6600k 16 gb ram 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Nah, I think PlayStation later

                          [–]JazzThreeGTX 970 | i7-5820K | 24'' 1440p screen 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Playstation Previously?

                          [–]bblzdi5 4690k, GTX 970 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          "We know our console is a bad deal so we force people to buy it for the exclusives."

                          [–]GeforcerFXi5 2400 | 16gb | GT 545 SLI | 960gb SSD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          If your really into games you will buy whatever hardware you need (and can afford) to play the games you want. When there is a overlap in the games platform availability it can usually be gotten cheaper on PC and in case (depending on specs) run better on your PC. I do have to give the consoles there exclusives, they have some pretty fun franchises, Halo is about the only reason I own a Xbox one.

                          [–]manickittySpecs/Imgur Here 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          But shooters on console are rubbish

                          [–]Ketchup901Arch/GTX 980/i7-4790K/2x8GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Same argument can be used for Linux.

                          [–]ace_aliveSpecs/Imgur here 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          and here I am as a PC gamer, not giving a shit about Mario Party XII.

                          [–]charliebrownnzI5 4690K | r9 390x | 16GB Ram 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Being proud of console exclusives is like being proud of beating your mate at ten pin bowling because you had the children's rails up and he didn't. Consoles are just a barrier to gaming, they hold software ransom on proprietary hardware and rip thier customers of with paid multiplayer and overpriced games whilst offering a sub par experience.

                          Console owners that support this practice are just fools suffering Stockholm syndrome, settling for a leashed low quality experience at a high price.

                          I can support exclusives when it is due to actual limitations of hardware or peripherals but won't support it when it's sole purpose is to limit experiences elsewhere.

                          [–]blackcomb-pci5-6600k | GTX 1070 | 16GB DDR4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          • PC has more exclusives
                          • Exclusives are a miserable way of forcing a system on anybody. Especially if that is arguably the only good reason to buy that system.
                          • Not the best exclusive experience, because consoles lack power

                          [–]SenorBeef 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Hostageware is a scam. I hate when people brag about having exclusives. "HAHAHA I'M SO COOL, I CAN PLAY GAMES OTHER PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO DUE TO ARTIFICIAL RESTRICTIONS!"

                          Screw that, it's toxic to gaming. Bragging that someone else can't play a game you can play makes you an asshole. And realize that that guy has games you can't play either, so you're both worse off.

                          It's such a shitty attitude. It's something people should protest, not something they should be proud of.

                          [–]whiting1289i7-4790k, sli GTX 1080, 16GB DDR3 http://imgur.com/LjJ1s31 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I hate when they use the exclusive card, as if I care about their movie games full of cutscenes.... I personally like PC exclusives better, like Stellaris, StarCraft2, Rust, Total War: WARHAMMER, Mount and Blade and so on.

                          I also like our modded games better... And yes, that includes Skyrim, because all the Consoles get is light mods like weapon and armour skins.

                          [–]kingdroxie -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          When they rub Bloodborne in my face when I just want to play Halo.

                          [–]theOldValyrian 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          While I primarily game on PC, I got a PS4 just for Bloodborne, and I don't regret it at all. It's possibly my favorite game that's been released in the last 5 years.

                          I can definitely understand that halo might be like that for some people well. I certainly still feel nostalgia for it

                          [–]kingdroxie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It's mostly just nostalgia. I acknowledge that the hype for Halo has died down, and with sufficient reason.

                          There's just this gaping hole where Halo was in my life and I hate how I can't try to pick it back up for PC.

                          [–]pawlik23i5 4690k/16GB 1866/MSI R9 390 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Exactly this. I don't care about games like RDR, TLoU or Uncharted. Somehow I'm surviving in this world without having played them.

                          Can consoles run the games that I like to play? American Truck Simulator, Silent Hunter 3, my favorite F2P MMORPG? No.

                          [–]I_amnotreali7-4790k@4,9GHz, GTX1080, 32GB DDR3, 850 Pro 512GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          RDR, TLoU or Uncharted

                          Btw, you can play them all on PC, via PS experience, or whatever it's called. You only need a dualshock controller and internet connection.

                          [–]mynumberistwentyninei5-6600k at 4.5GHz, R9 390 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Exclusives are a lot of the reason why I moved away from consoles looking back. I got so tired of feeling like I had to buy each system to play the games I wanted to play. Especially considering I never bought loads of games of consoles to begin with so I'd end up with a thousand dollars or so worth of consoles and maybe 10 games between them all. PC just made more sense for me.

                          [–]totallytmanSpecs/Imgur Here -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I'll admit, some console exclusives are actually pretty good. However, in my eyes, a console should play the part of a supplement, something to use to play games that PC doesn't have.

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