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PoliticsAadhaar is actually surveillance tech (business-standard.com)

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[–]Chutiyapaconnoisseur 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (5子コメント)

We need a brown Snowden who will go public with a tell-all and tell us all we need to know. He probably has to flee to Russia(or in this case, China, since Russia is too cozy with India and will likely turn him in).

[–]lonahex 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That will do nothing. Our anchors will divert nation's attention to other non-issues. Whenever you see some big issue being discussed in News, understand that something much bigger is going on that no one is talking about. Our media is one of the worst in the world.

[–]persuader00 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't even need big issues to be discussed to divert attention. They'll just start discussing some bollywood movie release or the happenings in some reality tv show all day.

[–]quinoa515 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt an Indian Snowden will find anything at this point. The Indian security apparatus isn't as sophisticated as the Americans. What Aadhaar presents is the potential for massive government surveillance. It is perfectly possible that our bureaucracy isn't competent enough to do it.

[–]goataccount 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you really think our general population will care? Not talking about the educated class.

[–]rptangwan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

what is so private/secret abt one's data under adhar? I m not a criminal, so i do not mind sharing my data. what is the problems with people who oppose it, i can't see. They should cover their faces in public as this reveals a lot of info about them. Needless controversy....

[–]4ed8c03dd6726ec4tr[S] 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Narendra Modi on April 8, 2014:

On Aadhaar, neither the Team that I met nor PM could answer my Qs on security threat it can pose. There is no vision, only political gimmick

[–]_dexter 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Abhi Mudi ne keh diya na vision hai? Bas key diya.

[–]modiusoperandi 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sir, Sir, Namo sir, Mudi Sir,

Can you please let us poor, illiterate, common folk know what questions did you ask the Team or PM on the security threat Aadhaar poses sir?

Please tell us Saar!!!

Also please tell us Sir, why did you implement it in Gujarat collecting more personal data than required sir?

[–]gsa123 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"I am also opposed to the use of biometrics for identification and authentication; this is nothing but surveillance. It is very easy to capture iris data of any individual with the use of next generation cameras. Imagine a situation when the police is secretly capturing the iris data of protesters and then identifying them through their biometric records."

Wow, just wow. This is really alarming.

[–]taciturnextrovert [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Why go through all that hassle when u can simply beat them up at the protest venue itself?

[–]BhaiyaUPwalaUttar Pradesh 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I still dont have an aadhaar.

[–]iamaguythrowaway 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No salary without Aadhar at my workplace.

[–]coolirisme 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

At my workplace they have made it mandatory for EPF.

[–]mhatarababa 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Same at my company, just to clarify, is it merely for withdrawal of epf or that company won't deposit their part of pf in salary?

[–]coolirisme 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Company is not responsible for this decision. EPFO did that.

The Employees' Provident Fund Organization (EPFO) has issued a notification to employers to update the Provident Fund (PF) members' Aadhaar numbers as a mandatory KYC document for the Universal Account Number (UAN).

Copy pasta from my work mail.

[–]PiValue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Niiice Bhaiya (same here)

[–]lonahex 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes it is. In the hands of the wrong Government/Authority at any level, it can be used for far greater evils than our country has seen

[–]Preacher_1893Farm crops getting robbed by monsanto. 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

ELI-5 how to evade this aadhar? will it just stick with me for life? even if I don't use it anymore?

[–]vouwrfractKarnataka 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes.

[–]_2_4_8Leather Jacket 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You really can't right now, it's too late. People that had been working in the same office for over two decades have had their salaries halted because they lack adhar. At this point, it's governments push, soon, adhar will become compulsory.

And yes, it's for life, embedded in it are your biometrics and iris data.

Price or living in 21st century mate!

[–]SouthieSaar 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aadhar is just a political gimmick. ;)

[–]samacharbot2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read more about Aadhaar is actually surveillance tech: Sunil Abraham on Business Standard. Interview with executive director of The Centre for Internet & Society

  • Interview with executive director of The Centre for Internet & Society

  • On March 12, the Lok Sabha passed the Aadhaar (Targeted Delivery of Financial and Other Subsidies, Benefits and Services) Bill, 2016, paving the way for giving legal status to Aadhaar, a 12-digit unique identification number generated after collecting biometric and other details of an Indian resident.

  • The government intends to use Aadhaar to roll out more subsidy schemes and allay privacy concerns.

  • Sunil Abraham, executive director of Bengaluru based-research organisation The Centre for Internet & Society, tells Sahil Makkar that the concept of Aadhaar ...

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Aadhaar is actually surveillance tech: Sunil Abraham

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Aadhaar is actually surveillance tech: Sunil Abraham

Interview with executive director of The Centre for Internet & Society

Interview with executive director of The Centre for Internet & Society

On March 12, the Lok Sabha passed the Aadhaar (Targeted Delivery of Financial and Other Subsidies, Benefits and Services) Bill, 2016, paving the way for giving legal status to Aadhaar, a 12-digit unique identification number generated after collecting biometric and other details of an Indian resident. The government intends to use Aadhaar to roll out more subsidy schemes and allay privacy concerns. However, activists are not convinced. Sunil Abraham, executive director of Bengaluru based-research organisation The Centre for Internet & Society, tells Sahil Makkar that the concept of Aadhaar ...

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[–]Screwdriver_wala 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

So what is it that NDA is doing differently with Aadhar than UPA?

[–]persuader00 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shoving it down all our orifices like never before.

[–]dickpenguininstall gentoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But people seem to be enjoying that, rite? I mean why should anyone complain? /s

[–]donoteatthatfrogPublic memory is short. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In other news: sun is fire

[–]dulcoflex [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Aadhar type cards is already implemented world wide, for eg. in the EU people just walk through immigration and RFID picks up the details and lets them pass. No doubt it is being used for surveillance also.

[–]vouwrfractKarnataka -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I think Aadhar is a good idea, but its implementation has to be tight, well-planned, and bullet-proof.

With the number of fake Aadhar numbers we have, the only real way I see is to er...demonetise denumerise, work on the system's implementation, security, and services delivery, and reintroduce it.

Regarding why Aadhar is needed at all, I can explain, but I'm sure other folks here are far better at why a uniform secure ID for citizens can help with many things. Among other things, off the top of my head, I'm thinking taxation, address verification and DOB for all purposes, universal single-payer healthcare, and voting.

Before that, we need to get our government nutjobs, especially BSNL, to stop putting user name and password on routers as "admin" and "admin123".

[–]rsa1 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think Aadhar is a good idea, but its implementation has to be tight, well-planned, and bullet-proof

It's a good thing our govt is famous for tight, well-planned, bullet-proof implementations then.

Among other things, off the top of my head, I'm thinking taxation

That existed long before the Aadhar. We call it the PAN card.

address verification

Aadhar is not an address proof: http://www.livemint.com/Politics/9ftwq0epNmJtEirqsHg7HK/Aadhaar-only-an-identity-proof-not-address-proof-says-DK.html

DOB for all purposes, universal single-payer healthcare, and voting.

We already had PAN cards, voter ID cards etc for all that.

[–]TemptNotTheBladeModi making India grate again with his speeches 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Aadhar is not an address proof

As per the Govt it is - http://passportindia.gov.in/AppOnlineProject/popuponline/AttachmentAdvisorSub?subDocID=7001&confirmDOB=DOBVarYes&minorFlag=2

Everyone accepts Aadhar as address proof.

[–]parlor_tricks 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why?

Aadhar is crazy enough to have biometric data, but how does that make it address proof?

A perso can move right? Or is there some bizarre Orwellian clause that says that you must re-register anytime you move?

Oh fuck. Next they'll add a gps chip to it. Wait, why bother. Just query your phone.

[–]TemptNotTheBladeModi making India grate again with his speeches 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No idea. But it's govt's preferred address proof.

[–]coolirisme -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, passport is also crazy enough to have biometric data.

[–]parlor_tricks 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are passports and aadhar the same thing?

Same purposes, same Departments, same uses?

Are both of them centralized databases queriable by anyone with access? No?

I have an issue with giving biometrics for passport as well. I can't do shit about another country's rules, where they are not obligated to give a crap about me.

[–]_dexter 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Aadhar is a good idea, but its implementation has to be tight, well-planned, and bullet-proof.

Like it has been shown umpteen times across many many research reports, we mere mortal humans are incapable of this.

[–]dummytrader -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

no shit. sherlock.