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Dark triad - Your virtue is a lie (self.marriedredpill)

stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED が 投稿

You aren't a good man unless you have the option to be a bad one. It's an rp lesson I learned, and hope to impart for others sake here

When push comes to shove, you need to get your hands dirty, because that virtue you set for youself won't matter if you arent around to capitalize on it. Only women can avoid things to be virtuous, we don't have the luxury, and being given femenine rules by the femenine imperative only sets us up for failure.

Abundance and options matter.

For the record, this was the cake i bought for Frenchies last day in the military.

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[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

'No one should be praised for his goodness if he has not strength enough to be wicked. All other goodness is but too often an idleness or powerlessness of will'

Francois de La Roche

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He was the inspiration

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember, I copied it into the front of my notebook.

[–]Aaren_Augustine 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Odd how many virtuous women go to Cancun without their boyfriends. Virtue never came with a lot of value. Part of the reason I found MRP was being the perpetual "virtuous" husband.

I made a decision recently at work that took the moral high road, like a fucking idiot. It could have damn near put my head on the chopping block. When I saw it coming, I did my best to steer it in my direction. By the end, I was giving a sworn statement to a lawyer from brigade.

It got my supervisor fired. But fuck him if he doesn't want to form a back bone. Glad I had the plausible deniability to pick the side that wasn't going to go up in flames. Glad I had the charm, patience and tact to prepare weeks in advance. Glad I had spent the time reading and digesting IllimitableMan's works and understanding the nature of women.

Great blog post. Much to consider.

[–]crabpipe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What was the work situation?

[–]Aaren_Augustine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You read Extreme OwnershiP? THe exact opposite.

[–]Aechzen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This sounds like a good FR, if you can write it up in a way that won't blow up in your face.

[–]Aaren_Augustine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I intend to. Stone's DT post is extremely applicable to office politics.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Was frenchie truly virtuous though? He was a squared away sailor who embodied the ethos of your fleet.

Yet, when presented with the opportunity to fail (drugs) he did exactly that.

Your post is solid, one of your best pieces and the message is clear and sound, this is just sidebar for my own insight into your mind.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (13子コメント)

There was a drug test done to see the scooe of the problem. It got shit canned when the numbers started to show how many were testing positive for weed. Ive had a po2 ask if i was cool, when driving to our ships golf tournament, one of the guys said yes, then pulled a bong out of his glove box.

His onky failure was blind morality and obedience imo. If you fine a different message, then i hope its a good one

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Ive had a po2 ask if i was cool, when driving to our ships golf tournament, one of the guys said yes, then pulled a bong out of his glove box

Dude, E5 was where it was at.

Not quite in charge, yet not at the bottom either. Not your responsibility when shit goes wrong, not your responsibility when shit jobs roll around lol

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Canada is a little different, you may have been at my level. Did you get into the Chief's mess?

  • OS
  • AB
  • LS
  • MS
  • PO2
  • PO1
  • CPO2
  • CPO1

for NCM enlisted rank structure

separation for JR ranks and Chiefs and PO mess. I was a MS. The first rank you have to be merited to attain, LS is simply time-in. I never remember how US ranks equate

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is one of those discussions to be had at a bar lol difficult to explain. I was an E-6 which looks like a PO2 on your list.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/ranks/rates/rates.html

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/honours-history-badges-insignia/rank.page

ah! Dude, you were totally an MS!

Nice, the king of shit mountain FTW!

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the king of shit mountain FTW!

When I made it an took over 3 shops (45 guys) I remember thinking, all of these fucking retards are now my responsibility.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

My understanding :

US e 5 (po2) = is right around MS, slight difference, but not much I think

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

ah, so you could be a PMC at the Jr Ranks mess?

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Don't know where guys eat. We made O-3 eat with enlisted

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Jr ranks is OS - MS. Chief and POs (non commissionned officers) got their own messes, and all commissioned officers get their own mess.

Oh, captain gets his cabin, lonely at the top

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

at the inpatient VA where I worked for a bit, we had a Marine capt (infantry) and a major, pilot, sit with a bunch of enlisted grunts and jarheads. Highest was airforce light bird. He got shit on the whole time.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Air force 'appreciation' is always independant of rank

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (10子コメント)

When I was 16, I caught a case for being virtuous. Since I had done what I did to prevent injury to someone, surely my virtue in that would have protected me from the detective, the system, the judge. After all, I had acted to protect. Surely the virtue would pay off.

What actually paid off was an attorney who took some pity, knew me from extracurriculars, charged the minimum he could without being fully pro bono, still more than we could really afford.

"STFU, detectives are animals, they want to lock up a white kid for once, smile, let me do the talking, no one gives a shit about what you meant to do, only that someone weaker cried foul." were roughly his words.

Virtue gets you killed. Don't get others expectations fuck with your life. It'll get you killed

Blind belief in the virtue of another? maimed

After all, who.. who wants to be king ?

And the virtue of a woman? Through others' blood

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

smart lawyer.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Only problem is he ate donuts like redneck lifts

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Thats a lot of fritters

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

breakfast

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

is that a green onion on some of them?

[–]SampsonBrassMountain Man 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pistachios

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank fuck.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

some sort of frosting or something

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It'll go well with a pinterest picnic

[–]redmountainpill 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm said that dude deleted his post! We'll never know how that gay-ass pinecone dinner turned out

[–]redpillenlightenmemt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I recognised a lot of truth for me in this article. Being passive and letting things unfold around you isn't virtuous. The classical concept of virtue was an active one but we've lost that.

[–]sven_igortsen 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When I was a kid at a catholic school, for Ash Wednesday the priest who ran the school paid for the cafeteria to give each kid a free donut. The horrible treats had been overcooked and tasted burned. Inedible.

So kids were throwing them away... in the trash cans, in the sidewalks, in the bushes. Nobody could eat them.

The Vice Principal, a fat blustering ass called a school assembly and started shouting at everyone for being ungrateful and throwing away this generous gift and littering the school. He wanted every kid who had thrown their donut away to line up in the front of the assembly. He threatened that he'd had the prefects (think hall monitor) make a list of all kids observed throwing them away, and that if you were on that list and didn't step forward like a virtuous catholic you would receive twice the punishment.

As I'd thrown my shitty burned donut in the trash I stepped forward along with a dozen or so other kids. We were marched off to the VP's office where we waited to be caned one at a time. The VP told us each after our caning that he had lied about having a list of kids names. Fucking liar. Fucking hypocrit.

He continued to go on about what greedy horrible kids we'd been and I made up my mind in that moment to never again bother with someone else's opinion of what virtuous actions I should be taking to suit them. While he yelled at us this so called virtuous Catholic was lying through his teeth about having a list of kids and being ready with twice the lashes for anyone who didn't step forward.

Life is a short sprint there's no time for hamstringing yourself for the lie of virtue. There are doers and cowards and fools. I'm only interested in having the best life I can. I don't have to eat shitty donuts.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Catholics, not even once :)

[–]Aechzen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like you received an excellent education, just not in the way they intended. Life is like that sometimes.

In my personal experience, religious education can be particularly helpful in helping a young man discover where true virtue lies.

[–]ReddJiveMRP Approved 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most excellent.

Having options makes you powerful. Regardless if you exercise them.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Loved the part on virtue. Men in those days got to lay around and fuck bitches all day. They never talked about the two weeks they suffered on the trail for the hunt. The infinite ways you could be killed. You are right, each generation made it so the next generation didn't have to.

[–]Coniferous_88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow...that blew the lid right off. Fuck.

This goes right to the heart of having abundance mentality...the only way you can truly have it is by cultivating those opportunities, not by just thinking you have them. Powerful stuff.

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nice blog post. I would liek to see more of this stuff from you.

The Line that is sticking with me the most:

"When the time comes, the only virtue that matters is outcome."

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Working on it. Kind of have a system now. I have 6 of these in various drafts, and 40 more a paragraph or less. The trick is to find a narrative , flow, and value fornthe reader

Plus ive always sounded like a machine gun giving a brain dump... They will Come with time

[–]tropicalfishlover456 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im frnechie. This is what happened to me at the warehouse hob with the drug test. Seemed like end of the world, lost job, wife moved out But led to this place, lost 42 pounds, better eating, new job, gym 3x a week and am running now almost everyday. Sold trailer, got an apartment in town, divorce that i wanted will be final soon, funny there are plenty of chicks. got a couple already. Anyway. follow the plan. Works.