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[–]ArchwingerMarried- MRP MODERATOR 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Often, more sex and better behavior toward the husband accompany cheating.

She's in a better mood due to the emotional high her new man is giving her, so she's nicer to you. She also feels guilty, so she overcompensates with you.

Once a woman's getting her dopamine fix from all of the emotions involved with a new man, stopping that is like getting between two fighting dogs. Confronting her won't fix this. It will just make her more careful about hiding it. And make you look weak.

You don't have kids, so leaving is actually a strong option. Start living the single life. Go out at night, do your own shit. It's not like you're skipping bed time with the kids. You don't have any. Meet girls, get numbers, have fun, come home, make a beeline for the shower.

But still escalate with your wife every night like normal. Fuck her like crazy.

Go ahead and get all of the info you can from her phone and other sources, but don't confront her with it. You just want it so you know all of the information, which will help you make decisions regarding your own plans and behavior.

[–]anythingincMRP APPROVED 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Perfect rundown.

Married 5yrs. Ltr 10. Emotional affair with "work husband". No kids.

Very similar to me. Knew it was over, confronted her, divorce finalized as soon as the minimum waiting period was over, moved on to younger, hotter, tighter.

You might be able to save this...but why? You told him last month, you told her last month.

I just tell her she should keep herself in check and that was inappropriate.

I set up meeting and talk with him about that.

Now you are powerless. They are both continuing their relationship despite your warnings. She knows she shouldn't be getting involved with a male coworker this way.

[–]justthenewman[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Thanks for the input. That hit hard.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You did the RP, proactive thing of setting an overt boundary, and the line was crossed by both.

Are you a man or mouse?

[–]uxl 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The biggest indicator that you are actually succeeding at RP is the feeling of total freedom to leave. If you're not feeling that freedom, then you haven't cultivated abundance (and therefore, the felt certainty of options) in your life for yourself. RP doesn't mean not wanting it to work out; RP means being able to laugh it off if it doesn't. And the only way you can laugh off a feeling of intimate rejection (and/or plausible betrayal) is if you have a felt knowledge in your bones that there are countless others available to you. Lots of guys come to RP because they want to feel like the guy that is the winner, the alpha. But the difference between posers and the real deal is that winner has done the work ensure that nothing makes him feel like a loser. If a girl rejects him, she's the loser, not him. Chad can keep his fuck-and-chuck or be enslaved, if he wants. Why? Because you're Chad too, and you now see the dyad of human sexuality and gender psychology for what it is. You create your own happiness, and you do so for yourself. You are no longer dependent on others for it.

Your girl has crossed a boundary. You now may live with her without boundaries, yourself. If it comes to a head, or you discover she has cheated, you leave. If you can't shake the FEELING that she has cheated, even after she weeps and pleads with you - YOU STILL LEAVE. Because you have dignity. You possess self-respect (note the difference from simply whimpering that you "deserve" respect). You're not a cuck. You'll get that same euphoric enchantment of fresh conquests (EDIT: or, if you choose, fresh enjoyment of a healthy first-mate experience) soon enough. And frankly, because you don't care, because a woman doesn't DEFINE YOU. No worries, just laughs. Freedom. The felt experience of freedom is what RP is all about, and despite all the bravado and boasting of "success" that occurs in this sub, it's not the good sex or the submissive girl or the muscled body or the shit-together life of order and direction that is itself the goal of RP. It's the freedom that the TRUE implementation and internalization of all those things and more gives you. Whether this woman has cheated on you and you have to leave her or you again feel comfortable and you choose not to: brother, be free.

True freedom, true self-sufficiency, is what separates the RP boasters from the RP alphas.

[–]justthenewman[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you... You speak wisdom.

[–]Aaren_Augustine 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your girl has crossed a boundary.

And at that point, you light her up. Should be easy. Plenty of younger, more attractive women out there.

This is a battle standard all MRP husbands should be shooting for. Great articulation.

[–]PineleroMarried 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The biggest indicator that you are actually succeeding at RP is the feeling of total freedom to leave. If you're not feeling that freedom, then you haven't cultivated abundance (and therefore, the felt certainty of options) in your life for yourself. RP doesn't mean not wanting it to work out; RP means being able to laugh it off if it doesn't.

This is a rite of passage from Blue pill putz to being a family alpha.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That hit hard.

OP, it is going to keep hitting harder, until you take the actions that you need to take. Waiting is only going to make it harder for you. Waiting until you have kids with this woman, will make you a lifetime member here……no, you don't want that.

[–]drty_pr 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

DO NOT KNOCK HER UP!

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (12子コメント)

She's in a better mood due to the emotional high her new man is giving her, so she's nicer to you. She also feels guilty, so she overcompensates with you.

Can confirm. Have cheated.

u/justthenewman, she blinded both herself and you. Probably not intentionally, women aren't that aware. But it tells you 1) the kind of woman she is, and 2) the kind of man she sees you as.

The answer, in my mind, is obvious.

[–]justthenewman[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I take that into account. I just need proof.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

No you dont, thays a bullshit excuse. If you get chat logs? Wont be enough. Youre waiting to walk in on her, which wont happen.

Then what? Are you prepared for the fall out?

[–]justthenewman[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm talking the logs. Gonna get them today.

[–]justthenewman[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What about hanging out with the guy? Not that I want to.

[–]redmountainpill 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was the other man for a chick when I was in college. I was a total dick for a few years. She left her husband and started dating me. I was such an asshole that I would still hang out with her husband and he knew I was dating his estranged wife. And there was nothing he could do because he was such a pussy!

My point is that if your wife really has the hots for this guy, nothing will stop her from seeing him. Especially if they're not fucking, because in her mind she's not doing anything wrong.

[–]sunthas 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

in this case Mr X sounds fairly beta.

[–]CanisFinn 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I went through this 14 years ago with my wife. I held it together. She came around...but it was hell. And honestly, the emotional capital expenditure of the whole thing is ASTRONOMICAL! Literally bankrupted all my emotional capital for a decade. We will be married 17 years this weekend, and things are better than ever, seriously good...but honestly if I could get a do over I would have just left. It is a long painful path, and there will always be that voice in the back of your mind. Trust is never fully recoverable.

[–]OpiumPhrogg 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you me? I never could put into words "the emotional capital expenditure" feeling but you fucking nailed it. You are right it is ASTRONOMICAL, words can't even describe it.

OP if you see this I hope you understand the full weight of what we are trying to say. If you stay you will be in for a long and scarring emotional ride that really isn't worth it. If you just rip the band-aid of now you will be better for it.

Edit: a word.

[–]gettingmymojoback 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll third this as well. 10 years later I'm just getting over it thanks in part to MRP. If I knew then what I know now, I would have left.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are proving Iron Rule #7

[–]RCMasculinity 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most of us have kids, and they are the prime reason we are going through this astronomical expenditure of emotional capital. Someone without kids would be insane to stay in a similar situation. That's why MRP is 'hard mode'.

Some days I see a light at the end of the tunnel, some days I don't. My goal is to 100% not care what happens via an abundance mindset. Not there yet, but I'll get there.

[–]Alcebiadeeze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How are you going to have an abundance mentality about your kids? They are your hangup.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was nice of her to stop fucking dudes for you after a few decades

Did you buy her some jewelry for her benevolence?

[–]onmyownpath 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is exactly what I think also. The emotional toll this takes is enormous.

That is why I recommend ghosting her like a piece of garbage. It will save him a lot of scar tissue.

[–]RecoveringBlue 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just went through this. Read my old posts. The main difference is that I have young kids. I gave her a choice, sign papers or straighten up. If not for kids, there would have been no choice to make.

What I took out of my experience was OI. I now regularly chat up girls I encounter and I'm thankful to learn what was really under my wife's hood. You're married to a woman that wants to cheat on you and you don't have kids. WTF is even your question? Take this opportunity to learn what women are and what you can be. Take this opportunity to truly unplug and be reborn.

[–]logician9000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, you're worth so much more than a cheating whore. Why should you hang around? You don't have kids.

[–]redmountainpill 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do you want to stay with this woman? Really, what value does she add to your life that a couple plates wouldn't? Yeah, you can get over an emotional affair. I wouldn't even bat an eye if my wife was getting her feelz out with another dude. I've got better things to do with my time than worry about her.

But why would you want to emotionally invest in her if you don't have kids?

[–]druganswerMRP APPROVED 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

u/spexer and u/archwinger gave great advice. Make sure you don't get your wife pregnant, by the way. As in condoms. You control the birth control from now on.

To be honest, I would say this isn't something you even want to force yourself to have to "get over." And will you be able to trust your wife again? When she gets a new job that you can't spy on her at?

This isn't starting an emotional affair; this is an emotional affair. And this isn't a one time moment of weakness, this is a long drawn out thing. Some major planning went into their cake date.

I want to say that I agree with u/spexer on the "if the script completely flips and she really works for your forgiveness," thing, but I don't know if I even do. A strong man would chalk this one up as an L and walk right out that door with as little drama as possible. Consider it you both getting a valuable life lesson.

[–]trp_dudeMarried 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she took her phone out of my hand when I grabbed it once (we shared them often) nervously

noticed she logged out of work mail (never did that) . Being paranoid I tried to login and found out she changed password

Dead giveaway. No kids? Take the money and run like hell.

[–]postscript1114 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP, consider yourself lucky that you can end things and there are no kids involved. That brings a whole other level of legal and mental issues.

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

1st - document everything. 2nd - assume the worst.

Likelyhood is this has gone much further than them "sharing cake".

You know she is keeping secrets from you.. but will she LIE to you? test this, without something so obvious that will let her know you know... Don't question the LIE she makes.

To each their own, but for me, the action I would take is: After getting all the documentation I need, I would visit my lawyer and get the papers drawn up. I would calmly confront her, and let her know that the relationship is over, because of this affair. I would also tell the guy's wife.

Now if she really works hard on saving it, I would honestly consider it. She would clearly end it with this guy and no longer work there... and have a huge mountain to climb to get any trust back.

my 2 cents

[–]justthenewman[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thank you. This makes sense. Will work on that lie test.

[–]justthenewman[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Asked her if anything nice happened in work. She said no and presented detailed review of her day and ommited the cakey-tingly-girly-thingy. I take that as a lie.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lie via omissions. Absolutely.

You have all the proof and disrespect in hand. Time to plan an exit strategy, and tell her you have filed for divorce after it is filed. It's not worth having to reel in a woman constantly from her feelz-fueled indiscretions.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And for the love of god, don't think you're 'teaching her a lesson' by rambling on about her with some cringey rant about comeuppance.

This should be matter of factly, no different than cancelling a contract because of breach. She will find out when her signature is required

[–]drty_pr 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Personally, I would end it man. u/Firestarter said it best. You don't need to be stuck in this sub for uour whole life. You have an opportunity to cease the moment and excel man. A year from now you won't regret it.

I wouldn't tell his wife til after the fact. I'd tell her when you have a "secret" to share. I'd tell her at a "remote" bar. I'd make sure you order her a strong drink before you tell her. I'd order her a second drink after I told her. I think you see where I'm going with this.

[–]Alcebiadeeze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Evil. Here's an upvote.

[–]Aechzen 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You mentioned going nuclear, by which I assume you meant divorce.

But there's another level of nuclear, which is human resources. Many employers explicitly forbid romantic relationships between employees, and certainly on company time and while using company resources (the email, and if it's a company phone). And it's worse if there's a supervisory relationship involved. There are obviously exceptions for people who are already married.

I think you should already be looking for another job for lots of reasons, including having a life separate from your wife. But it's also a good idea so that if you need to, you can pull the columns down on both of them on your way out the door to your new job.

One more thing: keylogger. Use one. It's your wife, and you have a right to know.

[–]ramblemnMarried 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

don't do anything thats illegal or against work policy AND involve HR.

fastest way for YOU to get fired.

[–]justthenewman[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (8子コメント)

*OP here. Got the logs. *

No overt signs of getting physical, but lots of nasty stuff.

He suggested to drive her back home when I had day off, points out he lives close to us (how does he know where we live? Jesus) . She refused, because I set this up with reliable coworker before.

She wrote she 'had so much hassle to get out of going to my husbands lecture', he responds 'for me? I' m flattered'.

One sexual comment about the content of the comic book they swapped. He says that fucked up stuff gets him going.

Generally - he pushes, she does not remove herself. Lies, manipulation and flirtiness. Personal details.

Gentlemen, decision has been made. I'm off to see the lawyerino. Will be back.

[–]Grimsterr 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She wrote she 'had so much hassle to get out of going to my husbands lecture', he responds 'for me? I' m flattered'.

That's the big deal breaker, right there, up until that you could maybe hamster your way to not divorcing. This, however, tips the scales completely and no amount of spinning this can make this not a lawyer up moment. She blew you off to be with another man. I'm guessing this is something you took pride in, to boot, so that makes it MUCH worse than her begging out of say, taco night.

[–]RecoveringBlue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So glad to hear this. I'm interested in an update. Years from now, your future self will owe your present self his life. He will thank you every day.

[–]forever_alpha 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Keep us updated.

What does she mean by his lecture thing? English isn't my first language so I don't really get it.

[–]justthenewman[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was giving a speech at the university after work. At first she said she would go accompany me. Last minute she changes her mind and goes to the board game bar with coworkers.

Jumping through the hoops like a gazelle.

[–]forever_alpha 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thx. Looking forward to the next update. Keep your head up.

[–]spexerMRP APPROVED 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

hmmmm.... I am on the fence.

Your evidence shows: She is flirting with this guy, she is complaining about you and talking bad about you to him, and she is hiding this behavior from you.

If that is honestly all that she has done... then where is the Nasty stuff?

She is not propositioning him. she is not the aggressor... and she has not agreed to his advances.. she is not writing him about how she can't stop thinking about how hard he is going to fuck her... right?

Don't get me wrong, my girl and relationship would be in crisis mode if this was happening... but I wouldnt serve papers just over this.

She is dancing on the line.

Disclaimer: this is based on what you have evidence on. There is likely more, she has done likely more, and the nudes are probably sent using a different app.

[–]Griever114Unplugging 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, there cannot be any sane reason to not divorce her right fucking now.

[–]bangorlolMarried 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've got more pride than is healthy and a great memory. I probably wouldn't forgive the intentional sneaking around and would cut my losses there. No room in my life for an unfaithful woman with the prior expressed agreement of fidelity. More attractive women are available to me. No sense in wasting time dealing with one that can't be trusted.

[–]Borsao66 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"If there's a doubt, there is no doubt." - Sam in Ronin

[–]SexistFlyingPig 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know why you're writing here. Maybe just to vent.

Your wife is either currently cheating on you, or is going to cheat on you. It's going to be with the guy you both work with, and it's going to suck for you.

Be prepared for this outcome. Just give her divorce papers to sign. There are no kids, which is great. Make certain she signs away all rights to your money and house. Kick her out of the house.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The hamster squeeks: It's not "cheating" if my husband is getting what he wants....right?

she took her phone out of my hand when I grabbed it

Read The Key Logger and fucking key log all of her accounts. Don't be a dumb ass. This is textbook. Women often start fucking their husbands when they get fresh caulk to fill their suddenly well used holes.

[–]crimsonkodiak 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sure sounds like it. The fact that she's not willing to cut off contact is the most disconcerting part. She either doesn't think it's wrong or doesn't respect you enough to stop doing it. Have you thrown down the gauntlet yet? Does she know you're planning to leave over this?

Start by having that conversation, then get the chat history and act based on that.

[–]sunthas 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

she knows its wrong. she knows the test and its easy. "is this something I would tell my husband about" if the answer is no, then she shouldn't be doing it. she doesn't tell him, she knows its wrong.

[–]crimsonkodiak 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think that's a good rule of thumb, but it's a little too harsh when applied across the board. How many guys do you know who look at porn (or heck, even just check out women) and don't tell their SOs about it? Sometimes people legitimately don't think something is wrong, but they want to avoid the fight with their SO.

And don't underestimate the power of the hamster. Even if deep down she knows it's wrong, she's probably convinced herself it's ok because reasons.

[–]sunthas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

agreed. I'm not sure the rule applies to men. Perhaps for men, the rule is more like "would you care if your wife found out about this" as you aren't suppose to be telling your wife all about your days and nights all the time anyway. If I go out with the guys and we end up at a strip club, its okay to not mention that when she asks about the night. Not that my wife would care anyway.

[–]logician9000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd have no problem telling my wife about a strip club. They're pretty harmless.

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

WTF is PFPFPM?

[–]justthenewman[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Practical Female Psychology: For the Practical Man

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

That book specifically is not on the sidebar.

[–]justthenewman[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Offtopic, but what is wrong with it?

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing wrong with it. It is just none of the mods have got around to reading it yet. Why not do a post with a summary and description and I will get to it soon.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No official reason. If I had to guess, it's either none of us have bothered yet, or it's a little higher level than the stuff that's there already.

The stuff that is there now tends to be very 101 level stuff. PFP is one of the inspirations of rollos work, similar to the red queen.

[–]470_2_700_nm 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read it recently and I don't think it is higher level than Rollo. Rollo has much more detail and deep insight IMO. Reading Rollo brings me back to the anger stage often and shows how I am not finished my journey. This book didn't really, it just armed me with more knowledge.

It goes through Evo Phsycology, female tendency for the emotional over logical, sub communication (covert communication), Magic pussy syndrome, female archetypes, screening of both high and low self esteem women, stages of manipulation, arousal and sex drive, last minute resistance, madonna / whore complex, anti slut defence, and how to be attractive to women.

This is a pretty red pill book. I found the parts on manipulation to be potent and most valuable, as it describes them in great detail and gives some good advice on how to deal with it.

[–]Chump_No_More 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Specifically?

Very interested in understanding the reason behind that choice of wording.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

She's already cross the line. The one thing you can't do is sit back and be a cuck. Here are the options: 1) Divorce her because she already cross boundaries and disrespected you 2) Tell her what friends at work told you. Tell her it's unacceptable and you will file for divorce if she doesn't cut contact with him 3) Put the fear of God into this phaggot.

I suggest 1) since you don't have children. Definitely don't do 3) because he's a co worker and clearly doesn't fear you.

[–]Aechzen 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

+1 for putting the fear of god into the coworker.

This whole thing is messier because this is happening at work, and it shouldn't be. Most companies forbid affairs and flirting on company time.

[–]nastynickdr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont agree with that, this is cutting the wrong side of the rope. If shes gonna whore, it will be this guy or another.

Recently, where i live (not US), some wife of one of those motorbike club guys was caught cheating with some college boy. Motorbike club guy shot the dude who can now only move his head and is a vegetable for the rest of his life. Husband was imprisioned for a few months but was released due to not having any past crimes or something like that. Guess who was seen on the back of biker guy motorcycle again a few days later.

[–]Grimsterr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

3) Put the fear of God into this phaggot.

Threats are for faggots, just send his wife the logs, and wash your hands of it, AFTER you serve papers to the wife. No warning, no threats, that's weak, don't be weak. STFU and serve the papers, then let him "console" your wife a couple days (by console you know I mean fuck rawdog) THEN send the logs after she and he have had time to do what they've been wanting to do all along (and maybe have already done).

[–]All_Ads_Deceive 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

lol you live in a fantasy world where passive aggressive behavior is Alpha and being violent and dominant is for faggots. Do you know anything about human evolution? Are you saying women aren't into psychopaths?

Women are attracted to dominance. When you put a girl in her place, she's turned on. When you exert your dominance over other men, it turns her on. That's why the hottest women date the football jock and not the scrawny intellectual.

He can't do this since the guy is a coworker. I've been in this situation. The guy kissed my ass because he feared me. He then went crying to my girl saying I'm a psycho and controlling. Being a white knight and asking her to protect him from me lol. She mocked him to me for being a pussy

[–]Grimsterr 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This women is no longer worthy of any effort, any time, divorce, and done.

[–]indivisibleremainder 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

1) Thank the gods you have no children with her, 2) Dump her

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR[M] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not exactly MRP material, but written well enough. Please take the comments from the users very personal.

[–]justthenewman[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Excuse my English, not my first language. Also I'm freaking out.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That freak out is you taking the Red Pill- aka waking up in a slimy vat connected to a machine and realizing that everything you have been told about women, love and relationships is a lie.

It sucks, and you may not enjoy your steak, but at least now you can see the true reality.

Welcome to the desert of the real.

[–]Nyquil-Junkie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure why you are dragging your feet and wringing your hands wondering whats going on.

Just cut the shit and ask her WTF she is up to. Or confront them both together and ask. Why waste time playning games?

Or if you need more proof hire someone to tail them and document their activities. It'll probably serve you well in court.

[–]drqxx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you don't have kids with her this could be a huge blessing however you're going to go through hell first.

[–]Chump_No_More 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wrote about this 3 months ago... Lurking Cuckolds Welcome!

[–]forever_alpha 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It'd be nice if you gave us an update as soon as you get the logs.

I've been in the Pick Up scene für 7 years and on TRP for about 2. I've read many, many stories that sound similar to yours.

Honestly that whole story (the pattern of it) looks like she has been cheating. And I am not telling you this because I want you to feel paranoid or something. But that is - just like the dude wrote above - a clear sign of cheating (no, not just emotional).

I would say get the logs, look for evidence but trust me: If you confront her. You won't hear the truth. You will hear excuses aka the hamster spinning. You will NEVER get the truth out of her mouth.

So either you try to get evidence for your inner peace (I know that feel) or you just leave her right away because the trust is gone and she crossed your boundaries.

In a few months - if you keep evolving with TRP, Lifting and books - you will feel like a new person and happier than ever.

By the way: You can already degrade her to plate level. Seriously. She fucked up bad by lying straight to your face. If my girlfriend did that - and I mean even if she just did that and nothing else - I wouldn't even think about it, I'd just cut her off and maybe fuck her once a while (Plate). There would not be any commitment from my side anymore.

I know it hurts, we have feelings too, but don't make a fool out of yourself and start accepting the truth. That's what Red Pill (to me at least) is all about.

Accepting the bitter/hurtful truth.

Regards,

FA

[–]darla10 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You must've bored her to tears. Why not move on to younger, hotter, tighter. She's obviously moved on to bigger, better, stronger.

[–]VickVaseline 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ummm... what is PFPFPM ?

[–]walestone 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel you should hack her phone and find out what she is hiding you can hire TK his email is cybertoks@gmail.com he. An hey you gps locations, text messages and call logs in real time

[–]weakandsensitive 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good for her.

Why would you want to put effort into someone who doesn't want you?

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because maybe all the effort will make her want you, obviously

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Imnguessing this is a wall of wmotions, 0 sidebar.

Ill be back to nuke this thread

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Leave it. There might be some good affair buster stuff come out of this. Doubt OP will learn the lessons, but others might.

[–]justthenewman[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's exactly what I wanted to write. Someone may reconsider his marital decisions because of this.