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Nerd³ TalkWe are not nice apparently. (self.nerdcubed)

Procrastinator_Joe が 投稿

So as usual after a discussion about how Dan and the Channel have changed over the years, Dan has pulled a Trump and overreacted massively once again.

I can sort of understand why Dan reacts like this, he has spent the last 5 years putting all his effort into the channel, its taken his toll on him over the years, its stressed him to the limit on many an occasion. That gives me some sympathy to his reactions to this type of thing, but it in no way justifies it.

Dan seriously needs to learn to respect peoples opinions more, and stop acting like they are pushing them as facts, or at least just ignore them and move on like it never happened if he doesn't agree with them, its his channel after all he can do what he want's with it.

It must be said though, if you are going to make a post of such nature or criticizing anything in general, you really should make it of a constructive nature, otherwise it can be just seen as pointless whinging by some people.

That concludes my response to the current situation.

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[–]Die_ducks 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

/emote circlejerk

[–]RandomLiamStabilo Boss 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think the reason he reacted like he did was because of that one guy (and some others) who said Dan "Wasn't working hard" and all that. That's not useful and fair criticism, that's just being a dick.

[–]OpenSourceSocialist 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The proper and responsible way to act would be to say, "Hey, I appreciate you voicing your opinions, but I don't want this kind of posts on this subreddit, sorry". Not, "The people on my subreddit are a bunch of idiots, and therefore I am deleting my account."

[–]Rock48 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That first thing is pretty much what TB did, made a new subreddit, censored the fuck out of it, but he doesn't give a shit, because at least it doesn't take a toll on him.

[–]Nomulite 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, in responding to people taking a snapshot of a context and judging the context using that snapshot, he retorts by judging the entire subreddit based on the words of a select few? That's... incredibly childish and hypocritical.

[–]Revanaught 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (28子コメント)

You do realize that you kind of proved Dan's point that this subreddit isn't nice by responding to it insulting Dan, right?

Fact of the matter is, this subreddit isn't nice. It's full of assholes and idiots that believe that Dan's channel should cater specifically to them, and when it doesn't, they come here and bitch and whine and bitch. I don't even have a personal connection to the channel, I'm not even being personally insulted, and I'm annoyed to death of it. I've genuinely considered just switching back to the youtube comments because they seem to a lot more respectful there.

[–]DinoDoesStuff 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Joe never insulted Dan in this post. Read through it again because I don't see a single insult.

[–]Revanaught 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I already listed the insult as well as the general tone of the post in other replies.

[–]CaptainPedge 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (15子コメント)

You do realise that critique is not an insult, right. Nothing op said was insulting in any way

[–]Revanaught 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Generally the tone of the post was insulting. It could VERY easily be taken as an insult by anyone reading it. Not to mention comparing him to Trump is very insulting.

Sidenote, don't downvote posts just because you don't like them. That's not what the purpose of the downvote button is, it breaks the rules of reddiquite and the subreddit rules.

[–]Procrastinator_Joe[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

  1. I haven't down voted a single post on this thread.
  2. "I can sort of understand why Dan reacts like this, he has spent the last 5 years putting all his effort into the channel, its taken his toll on him over the years, its stressed him to the limit on many an occasion." Sorry for being so insulting there.
  3. I compared his reaction to that of Trump, not him as a person.

[–]Revanaught 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

  1. If you haven't then I apologize. Consider that post for the idiots that are downvoting it. It is a fair guess that it's you and the other guy given that there are 2 downvotes on my post and you are the only 2 people to respond disagreeing with me.

  2. Never said literally everything in your post was an insult. But overall the tone of your post was very insulting. Kind of supports my point that you left out the sentence right after where your quote ends that was "but that doesn't justify it", basically saying "I know that DAn's been hospitalized over the stress from critism, but fuck that, that's not an excuse to ignore critism" When you cherry pick, you can easily make your post seem nice and understanding, but when the line immediately after is you disregarding the reason for Dan acting the way he did, even though you understand it, a completely different meaning is shown.

  3. You weren't really clear on that. When you say "Dan pulled a trump" you're comparing Dan, as a person, to Trump.

[–]Procrastinator_Joe[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I really don't think my post was insulting in anyway, yeah it was stern, but I wasn't going around spouting "OOH Dan's such a cunt isn't he?" what I said about him "Pulling a Trump". I never said Dan shouldn't just ignore criticizm, in fact I said he should ignore it rather than react to it in such a way as too throw all his toys out of the pram.

[–]Revanaught -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can insult people without calling them a cunt. Tone can be a major way to insult someone. Being condescending, or overly stern can insult someone's intelligence or personality.

Dan's reaction was one post saying why he was leaving the subreddit, because it's toxic as fuck, and then deleting his account so that he can easily ignore it. You're saying that he should just ignore the subreddit while chastising him for doing something to help him ignore the subreddit...

[–]CaptainPedge 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

To be fair, dan just literally called you me and op idiots...

[–]Revanaught 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

No, he said he had better things to do than listen to idiots. That doesn't mean everyone on the subreddit are idiots, just the idiots that post "Dan isn't as good as he used to be (change the channel to be specifically what I want wah wah wah)" are idiots. If you fall into that, then yes, Dan called you an idiot. I don't fall into that group, thus Dan did not call me an idiot.

[–]CaptainPedge 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ok, he said you are not nice

[–]Revanaught 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

No. He didn't. He said the subreddit as a whole isn't nice. That's not me specifically, again, that's the group of assholes and idiots that make the posts "Dan isn't as good as he used to be (change the channel to be specifically what I want wah wah wah)"

If you fall into that, then yes, Dan said you're not nice. I don't fall into that group, thus Dan did not say I wasn't nice.

[–]CaptainPedge 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Pssst I'm not downvoting you either.

He said the subreddit is not nice. You are one of the most prolific posters on this subreddit, you are a part of it.

[–]Revanaught 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

yes, I'm part of the subreddit, but I'm not part of the group that made him say the subreddit isn't nice. The subreddit is like a loaf of bread. IF there's mold all over the bread, you would call that bread moldy. That doesn't mean ALL of the bread has mold on it, but most of it does. The subreddit, as a whole, is moldy. I'm one of the few parts of the subreddit with no mold on it.

[–]StickiStickman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You really have a god complex.

Saying 'the subreddit' clearly means all of it, else he'd simply have said 'most of the subreddit' or similar.

[–]Procrastinator_Joe[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suppose they could have taken me saying he "pulled a trump" as an insult, but I am not calling Dan anything am I? I resembled his reaction to that of one from Donald Trump

[–]Procrastinator_Joe[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I would have to disagree, look at all the posts, very few are related to complaining about what the channel has become over the years, its just posts of this nature get a lot of attention because Dan reacts to them (badly)

[–]Revanaught 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

You can get granular if you want, but when there's at least one post every 3 or 4 days spouting the exact same bullshit over and over, that's enough to classify this subreddit as full of assholes.

[–]Procrastinator_Joe[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

1 post every 3-4 days (even though its not that) still doesn't make this subreddit 'full' of assholes

[–]Revanaught -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, it does. That's a much higher volume than it should be. 1 per month from one idiot that doesn't understand that the channel isn't going to cater specifically to him is what the norm of non-asshole subreddits are. 1 every 3 or 4 days is far too much.

And I'll tell you what I told the other guy, the downvote button is not for comments you disagree with. Again, you're proving Dan's point. You're breaking reddiquette and the subreddit's rules because you don't personally like it. (also a bit hypocritical when you make a post saying Dan should take critism better then you break the reddiquette and the subreddit rules because you don't like critism on your post)

[–]Procrastinator_Joe[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I AM NOT DOWNVOTING YOUR REPLIES.....

[–]Revanaught 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Addressed this in another reply

"If you haven't then I apologize. Consider that post for the idiots that are downvoting it. It is a fair guess that it's you and the other guy given that there are 2 downvotes on my post and you are the only 2 people to respond disagreeing with me. "

[–]Nomulite 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Consider that post for the idiots that are downvoting it.

"Because everyone who disagrees with what I say is automatically an idiot."

[–]Revanaught -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, the idiots that are downvoting my post, which is against reddiquette and the subreddit rules are the people I'm calling idiots. Not the people disagreeing with me.

[–]StickiStickman 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're not contributing to any discussion and being hostile, maybe that's why?

[–]CaptainPedge 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Considering he makes a job reviewing (yes, he is a reviewer, despite what he says) other people's creative output, he's terrible at handling criticism of his own

[–]Revanaught 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (8子コメント)

No, he's not a reviewer, he's a comedic let's player. He gives his opinions on things, that does not make him a reviewer.

[–]CaptainPedge -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

In my opinion, he is a reviewer. He gets advanced copied of games for review purposes and he says what he does and doesn't like about games. He reviews them.

All of this is completely aside from the fact that he previously had a series called "Nerd3 Hates...". He's apparently free to criticise anybody and anything he wants, but he reacts like this when people criticise him

[–]Revanaught 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's not really an opinion thing. His job is objectively not a reviewer.

[–]shaql 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

maybe not job, but many people make decisions on whether to buy which games based on his content. that makes him a reviewer, with or without a job

[–]CaptainPedge -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well he does what I consider to be reviewing games. Therefore he is a reviewer.

[–]Revanaught 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's not how jobs work. It's not what you personally consider them to be, it's what they actually do. Dan's a comedic youtube let's player. Not a reviewer. Believe it or not, I can give my opinions on a game or movie as well, that shockingly doesn't make me a reviewer.

[–]Nomulite 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

His opinions have a huge impact on whether or not people buy a game. How he feels about it, how he plays it, etc. His opinion has an effect on sales, in some cases moreso than some major reviewers. If he says a game is shit not long after release, potential buyers might be put off. If he says the game is great, people that weren't interested before will be more likely to buy it after. He might not be a reviewer in job description, but his opinion holds just as much value, weight and consequence as a reviewer, so in this context it's appropriate to call him such.

[–]Revanaught 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

By that logic, literally anyone that's popular is a reviewer. Pewdiepie is a reviewer by that logic. Achievement Hunter and Roosterteeth, all reviewers.

[–]Nomulite 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I must stress, I mean in this context. Calling him an actual reviewer might be a stretch, but as Dan himself has said in the past, his opinion or mere acknowledgement of a game can impact game sales just as powerfully as game reviewers, so, in this context, Dan's criticisms and praises are just as powerful as a reviewer's are. I'm not excluding Pewdiepie or any other popular let's player from this observation either, anyone popular who says "this game is great!" will give game sales a boost. Why do you think people will send Dan and these other lets players review copies of games, often before release? Because their word is just as, if not more powerful than any review given by any respected gaming website.

[–]5stringrocker19 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look, he is human. And when there are about two to three "Dan was better when I found him" or "Dan was better in 2014" posts per month, it really wears on a person. He works his ass off for our viewing pleasure. And, hey, get this guys, if you don't fucking like it, don't fucking watch it. Dan does not make videos for YOU. He makes videos for EVERYONE. He changes how he feels. So everyone get the hell over it. And can you blame him for getting pissed off with us sometimes? He does so much shit for us and we just bitch and moan and complain it isn't good enough.

Btw, his reaction was far from a Trump reaction. He did not personally attack anyone or try to massively discredit anyone or incite death threats to anyone. Let's save the Trump card for when it actually happens.

[–]Nomulite 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And, hey, get this guys, if you don't fucking like it, don't fucking watch it.

He came to this subreddit on his own volition. If he didn't like what he saw, he could've just left. He's left before, and he's left again. Didn't need to insult the entire subreddit whilst doing so.

[–]aspz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What are you referring to?

[–]Zoduyix 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Out of curiosity, why did you make this post?

[–]raspymorten -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

WHY DOESN'T DAN HUG US ANYMORE?!?!!!!?!??!

[–]Maximus125 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to downvote hell. Enjoy your stay.