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[–]mi1a 181 ポイント182 ポイント  (6子コメント)

"I'm gonna put a condom on, just in case." This is the most hilarious thing I've read in a long time.

[–]blacwidonsfw 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Lol if you get rejected at that point then you just gotta sit there with a condom on while your dick goes soft lol.

These posts are funny as hell to read but to me as soon as I get the " were not having sex" line I would just go "ok bye" and leave.

Plenty of girls want to have sex that I don't need to Leonardo DiCaprio inception them into "complying".

Maybe it's just my frame and lifting thats paying off.

[–]Akela_hk 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know why you're getting down votes. I don't play games either, if a woman has already put herself into a situation to fuck, either fuckin or I'm leaving. I don't need to play a game to get laid, there's always another hoe who is going to shut up and just enjoy me.

[–]ImTheMVPBRAH 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This seems like a good way to get rape accusations on your ass too. "I said no several times but he just kept pushing and I got scared"

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

as soon as I get the " were not having sex" line I would just go "ok bye" and leave.

So you invest a couple of hours with a girl you want to bang, probably spend a bit a money as well, bullshit her to make her like you and get her into bed, then suddenly leave with a hard-on because you have a problem with her primal instincts kicking in and don't want to wait 5-10 more minutes and say a couple more bullshit lines, next to the hundred you already said. Right?

[–]2Auvergnat 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I find Anti-Slut Defense and Last-Minute Resistance a fascinating red-pill topic to explore, both in theory and practice.

You hit on a woman and she's attracted to you. As you interact with her, her anxiety rises quickly as two conflicting ideas go through her head:

  • One one hand, she's attracted to you, she's horny (it's that time of the month), she absolutely loves the feeling of being sexually desired, she loves the feeling of submitting to the lust of an attractive man, she loves the mystery of not knowing how and how good you'll fuck her, she wants to get fucked by you.

  • On the other hand, she's afraid of her attraction to you and the loss of willpower it implies, she's not sure you're not a serial murderer, she's not sure if you're really alpha or are just a disgusting beta that she's completely misreading, she's afraid that sleeping with you too fast is going to make her look bad in the eyes of her female social circle, she's afraid that falling for you too quickly is going to make you lose interest in her on the longer term, she's afraid of losing her main power card so early in the game, she wants to not get fucked (yet) by you.

The dissonance is intense. To attempt solving it, she rationalizes like crazy. But the feelings are too strong. The hamster spins faster and faster, then brutally stops and then start spinning the other way around, faster and faster.

That is the crazy mind storm that you find yourself in, and your chances to make it successfully to port depend entirely on your experience & skill at navigating through it. The navigation theory is to let your respective lust interact and build freely under the surface, while you're assuaging her worries on the surface. The practice is pull-push, two step forward & one step back, saying "You're right, let's not go too fast" as you slide your hands under her shirt further, saying "no" with your words but "yes" with your eyes, "genuinely" show that you think it best not to do it tonight but "genuinely" show that you're unable to resist your lust for her.

Fuck I love that part of seduction.. just that part is why I'll never be able to go MGTOW.

[–]TheDialecticParadox 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad you explained the theory behind it. Had LMR from a random girl I met on the street at 3am and took back to my place. She sucked my dick and I fucked her tits/face but no actual sex, even though I could tell she really wanted to. I see now that I failed to provide any plausible deniability and taking 3 steps forward and none back.

[–]DarkAges1 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Great comment! I really had an "ah-ha moment" when I read the part about the hamster stopping and then turning the other way around. She starts by hamstering, "I won't let this guy fuck me tonight, and here are all the reasons why..." And then, if you play your cards right, the hamster reverses to, "well, maybe its okay. Here are the reasons its okay to fuck him right now... it just feels so right, he's not some sleazy guy pushing me into it . . . etc"

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She starts by hamstering, "I won't let this guy fuck me tonight, and here are all the reasons why..."

I'm convinced this part is more like buzzfeed, '10 reasons why I won't let him fuck me, and #7 is the best'

[–]cucumber_vaccine 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like any dance, it's more fun when both parties know how to play, which is why "shall we bang, m'lady?" isn't going to fly.

[–]DigitallyDisrupt 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"genuinely" show that you think it best not to do it tonight but "genuinely" show that you're unable to resist your lust for her

I came upon that one accidentally. Works really well. Just keep agreeing with her that sex is a bad idea, until you are having sex with her.

[–]BigRedRover 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see it as a combination shit test and comfort test due to the factors you just described. That's why I think the ultimate simplicity of the answer to it lies in passing both tests at the same time.

[–]GentlemenMindset 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

By god, this is probably one of the best ways I've seen LMR and ASD explained and tied into the hamster. I always wondered how to make the hamster work in my favor when it comes to LMR and ASD. It's worked in my favor, but I was never able to put it in words. This gives such a nice structure.

[–]ImSecretlyATurtle 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes when I'm making out with a girl and I can tell she's going to put up some last minute resistance, I beat her to the punch. "Sorry but you don't get to sleep with me tonight." Even though she was planning to say that to me, now I've said it to her and the tables turn. It is now her goal to seduce me, to where I'm ready to sleep with her. However, if I let her accomplish this goal, she will then have the power back and lose interest. I instead continue to assert my dominance and treat her like a puppy begging for a treat. This is especially useful if we're in the club setting, as I can continue to talk to other women and raise my smv in her eyes. If we're already at my/her house, this whole thing is unnecessary seeing as we're going to have sex with each other regardless.

This tends to work well with older women (from my perspective this is still 30 year olds and younger, I've yet to become adept at pulling milfs). And with women who think they're much more intelligent than they actually are. For dumb blondes and such, this level of mind gaming is unnecessary.

[–]mrcs84usn 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"My mind's telling me no...

But my body...my body's telling me yes!

I don't wanna hurt nobody,

but there's something I must confeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaahaaaaaaaaaauus!"

Certainly made for a fun read.

[–]grass_cutter 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

To be honest, I've never had ASD since college, ever.

That might strictly be the foray of college-aged girls who don't know what the fuck they're doing.

Sure, I'd like to bang <22 year olds, but I'm usually trolling the bars and it tends to be 23-32 year olds.

When they agree to go to my apartment, they know what's coming. I'm no prince charming.

Sure you need to take the pressure off, put the responsibility on yourself, come up with the plausible deniability excuses, but once you're both in your apartment, alone, if you didn't do anything stupid that night like being completely asexual and invite some chick who 'friendzoned' you over, you'll be good to go.

Again, never had ASD after college, ever.

Thank God, too, because there's nothing worse than that. Bringing a girl home, getting her naked, then NOT getting laid despite thinking you were, because the chick has all sorts of mental hangups and baggage when it comes to sex.

Oh yeah naked grinding in bed is okay, but not actual sex, because that'll up her lay count, and she can't live with herself ... or who the fuck knows.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bringing a girl home, getting her naked, then NOT getting laid

I ...is this even possible?

[–]ConcealingFate -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is. Happened to me a month ago. Mind you, I had spoken to her maybe 20 minutes total before that. Bring chick over, we start cuddling in my bed, kisses, slowly take her clothes off, start fingering her, when I push for more, she asks me to stop and kinda goes into full on defense mode. Same thing happened Monday morning. Went back to my place after work, we start making out and when I try to take off her panties she says she's not comfortable yet so I don't push further. She proceeds to explain how she never slept with anyone who wasn't her boyfriend, or someone she was serious with.

Of course, I could try one of the many ways to disable ASD, but it's a chick I see rarely at work, but we have a lot of common connections so I'm not pushing hard. Also, her dad is basically Chad but at 65 years old and she loves her dad.

I respect boundaries, but she knows if she doesn't start putting out soon, as much as I like sleeping with someone beside me, she won't be joining me anymore.

Now I can't wait for people to start giving me shit for getting involved with someone at work. It's not a career, the place has over 3,000 employees and I'm a grown ass man who'll take responsibility if he fucks up. Thanks.

[–]SpinPlates 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus dude. Make sure you keep contact with her for a few months, bang a few times and keep a transcript of texts, maybe even an audio recording because girls that give that much LMR are going to hate themselves the next morning and file a rape case against you.

I don't push for it as hard as you do. Shit is scary.

[–]TheRedStoic 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey. If your getting asd your anyway in. Just shut up and say the least possible deniable thing. It can be blatantly stupid. She's just trying to protect her hamster but has already decided "imma fuck him if he doesn't fuck it up"

[–]Pastelitomaracucho 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You could have easily gone through a false rape accusation

[–]SpinPlates 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My thoughts exactly. I don't fuck around with LMR. Especially if they are already in my bed and still giving me LMR, they can fuck off and go home. I don't play those reindeer games. Good way to ruin your life with a sexual predator file.

[–]SomeGuyNY 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In b4 rape accusation story.

Getting compliance is no magic feat if you just ignore what she says and turn up the feels until she is game, but whatever made her seriously resist in the first place might come to haunt you later in the day and age of "no signed consent form" rapist witch hunts.

[–]GBP4tendies 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fuck I wish I read this yesterday.

Brought a girl home last night. We had a fun daytime-date and she's been into me for a few weeks now.

Last night she told me the same thing, "We're not having sex" and I said OK. I masturdbated her, got her really hot etc, but she wouldn't let me take her panties off. So with my hand slipped under her panties I masturbater her till she came, while she jacked me and I splooged all over her belly. I was happy enough.

Similar thing this morning... this are getting really hot and I ask her "Should I get a condom?" She says "I told you we're not having sex." I smile and say "I thought you meant last night." She laughs and hits me, saying "I knew you were going to say that!" I make her cum again but I still didn't close the deal.

I'll modify my approach for the Last Minute Resistance next time. I've never had that much trouble closing once I thought it was in the bag, so I was really taken aback.

[–]EndowedTurtle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same thing happened to me except I just went ahead and took her panties off. Get a little aggressive with them, if they really really don't want to get laid they'll protest in such a way that you'll know it. Otherwise it's just hamstering. If you fuck them good enough, they won't care if they had LMR

[–]EndowedTurtle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same thing happened to me except I just went ahead and took her panties off. Get a little aggressive with them, if they really really don't want to get laid they'll protest in such a way that you'll know it. Otherwise it's just hamstering. If you fuck them good enough, they won't care if they had LMR

[–]RetailCon 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

pulled her into me

LOL!

Jokes aside - this could easily be used as a rape accusation as she said no so many times then never sad yes. What a crazy world we live in!

[–]rathyAro 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a great story and all, but for real, I HIGHLY recommend only sleeping with girls who are VERY down to fuck. No chance of hurt feelings that way.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your tailbone. See how it's sticking out so far? It's a sign that your lower back muscles are extremely tight.

HAHAHAHA. Gold.

You need anal baby, because see, your tailbone needs to be pushed in!!!

[–]Lo-G 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This reminds me very much of some of my own experiences. Good job OP!

[–]Fulp_Piction 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reading through it without paying much attention to the words you two exchanged says it all. It was open-close from the get go, but she needed an excuse.

Thanks for the post man.

[–]top_footballer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of a situation with my former GF. We agree to go out to meet with mutual friends in a casual outdoor setting, it's a Friday night, later we're on our bikes riding back when I say,

'Come sleep over at mine (two blocks away)'

'Oh, I'm having an early night'

'Ok, I offered because we've both been busy plus we haven't had sex in 1-2 weeks, and what's up with that?'

'Nothing! Why is it such a big deal?'

I STFU. We get to hers at the driveway, when she says, 'You're welcome to come in, watch some TV'

'It's Ok, I'm gonna go'

'We can pash on the couch but I'm still having an early night'

'Goodnight babe!' I ride off

'Ooooh'

An hour later she's at mine. 'What happened to your early night?' I ask.

'I'm sleeping here, but we're still not having sex tonight'

We had sex that night.

Hear what they say, but watch what they do.

[–]caleyjag 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good for you OP. I would have lost patience (and frame) well before the end.

[–]JohnnySkidmarx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you use oil or lotion for her massage?

[–]menial_optimist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man LMR and ASD is soooooooo fucked up. It really is just self deception. There's nobody else there except the man she wants to fuck, yet she holds back to hold up her perceived innocence/purity. Its 2016 by now there's no purity or innocence left, you might as well just stop the charade. Whats more disturbing is they engage in this behaviour to essentially delude their own minds. They probably believe they are not promiscuous by the time the panties come off from a guy they just met 2 hours earlier.

[–]Zchavago 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They wouldn't be talking about not fucking you if they weren't thinking about fucking you.