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[–]FloggedPanda 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

You ever khole? I liken it unto meditation and oddly enough... they have similar antidepressive effects... perhaps through a similar mechanism

[–]fredossr[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No I haven't. I'd like to know more about the after effects of that

[–]FloggedPanda 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I just feel happier and greater wellbeing for a few days following light or heavy use. Back when i first started using dissos it was more pronounced, but it's still there

There's a reason ketamine is used for immediate relief from depression in suicidal people. Something about it is cleansing... my gf showed me a research paper that implicated the interaction with serotonergic systems but we're really not sure

But also learning to hole properly (on a dose that doesnt fully sedate you) is a very spiritual experience that i think you in particular would like. It shows you the full extent of the human imagination in realtime, but it's also your mind youre seeing... which makes it even more special

[–]VipKats82 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

From what I understand, holing is possible on fairly low sub anesthetic doses by meditation and fully disconnecting external stimulus from internal thoughts. Almost a self perpetuating saline tank (I forgot what those things are called, like those dark saline baths where you experience no external stimuli)

[–]FloggedPanda 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

YES! When i found this out i truly started exploring my holes!

100-200mg IM/plugged dosing in a dark room by yourself with soundproof earbuds and some light-hearted edm (prefer trap myself) will take you where you need to go with practice and patience. Fighting the hole = heavy intoxication/discomfort. You gotta learn to give into it

Add in a stimulant (i use meth but any will do) and your mind will be even more mobile in the hole + youll have a better memory of what you see/feel

Once youre in the hole, the disso's psychedelic side will come out to play. Nearly unlimited possibilities of universe creation/exploration in real time. Youll lose your body and physically become your imagined world while your rational thinking stays in tact... cant explain it any better than that. Dissos are amnesic tho so without the stim you wont remember much in terms of specifics... just be left with awe. Very humbling every time to hole once youre good at it

I really need to post a specific guide to low dose holing sometime... it's about 10x as mind blowing as tripping balls (ego in tact) and 2x as much as ego death trips, but not scary at all

[–]fredossr[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sounds very interesting. But isn't ketamine relatable to PCP? They're both dissos but I feel like a PCP experience obviously wouldn't lead to the after effects of a ketamine one. But I heard they're alike. I also wouldn't consider meth.