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Vapor Chef, WTF? (self.electronic_cigarette)

DONG_MAGNUMdna + kabuki が 投稿

the vapor chef is having a meltdown on facebook, he claiming to have doxxed someone and shit's going nuts. the thread has almost 700 replies at this point

link to messenger screenshots between the vapor chef and the person who has a greivance with him:

http://imgur.com/a/nOMam

i'll be adding screenshots from the thread in batches as i finish editing out personal info

edit: http://imgur.com/a/AFlRL

edit2: http://imgur.com/a/RtDzc

edit3: http://imgur.com/a/ttzyy

edit4: http://imgur.com/a/gK8XU

edit5: taking a break

edit6: any comments about doxxing anyone are going to be removed, and if you keep at it you'll be banned

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[–]nomer2༼⌐■ل͟■༽ 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (7子コメント)

pops popcorn

Been a while since a good vendor meltdown, this should be entertaining

[–]chuffaluffigus 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (8子コメント)

/u/thevaporchef

[–]ujakuSX Mini Q class // Velocity v2 // 'nana Cream 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (6子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/NnoGhN1.gif

[–]DGsirb1978 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's Vaporizing his business!

[–]waddledoodlebonedry 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Doxxing customers is about the shittiest business move you can pull. Congrats, not a single one of your customers (at least the smart ones) will have a shred of trust for you anymore. I don't care what the circumstances were, you don't do that shit as a business owner.

[–]DONG_MAGNUMdna + kabuki[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i don't think the person he's arguing with is a customer FWIW

[–]skiddlzninjaDIY_ejuice Mod 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Doesn't actually look like a customer. Still shitty to doxx someone if you have a problem with them, but let's not "create" facts.

[–]waddledoodlebonedry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, I just assumed based on what had been posted of the conversation. Still though, incredibly dick move. And on his company's Facebook account? Shameful.

[–]FilledWithHam 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's a shitty person all around. Again I beg people to simply scroll his FB (it's public) or read his reddit comments to people he doesn't agree with. Him getting lucky creating a vape business 3/4 years ago causes him to truly believe he is some sort of paragon of humanity. Everyone is beneath him and he's constantly boasting about his millions. Super stoked it's finally out, becuase everyone on ECR has circlejerked him for years. He deserves this.

To recap some of the best bits of the FB thread, he made death threats, said he will fuck people in the ass multiple times, boasted about his millions, belittled numerous people over their lack of wealth, and made constant remarks about people being obese.

[–]ShoreNative 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He doesn't have millions, trust me. Neither does the business itself.

[–]DONG_MAGNUMdna + kabuki[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To recap some of the best bits of the FB thread, he made death threats, said he will fuck people in the ass multiple times, boasted about his millions, belittled numerous people over their lack of wealth, and made constant remarks about people being obese.

accurate

[–]BlazeDemBeatzSmok Enthusiast 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read some of imagr reposts and I seriously feel stupider after reading some of that. u/thevaporchef clearly has some serious mental issues.

[–]SoberDreamsSigelei 150 w/ Velocity RDA 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

His juice sucks anyways, what little customers he has left are likely going to abandon him once they see this

[–]just_an_ordinary_guyiPVIII with Kanger Subtank 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care for a number of them, but the ones I use I like a lot. But there are plenty of substitutes. I've been patronizing them because I feel they're a good PA business, and I'm a resident. I'm not grabbing my pitchfork until I read the rest of the comments and do some sleuthing of my own, but if true I can always find someone else. There are plenty of other juices I can get that are on par.

[–]obliterayte 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is insane. I don't care what the customer did or didn't do, you don't threaten to doxx them. Glad I didn't give that loon my credit card info, even if he is full of shit.

[–]TheVaporChefGP Paps X, Peach Melba, Vault RDA -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's not a customer. This is a jeep pissing contest.

[–]bendahenEvic Vtwo Mini | Serpent Mini 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Now I'm no expert on US law at all, but isn't listing all your guns after issuing death threats a sure fire way to get them taken off you? Something to do with being a threat to yourself and others? Pardon the pun, but the guy just shot himself in the foot.

[–]FilledWithHam 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It is. Also, if it's true about his "Pill Problem" and he has that many guns in his house and marijuana (pictures of him smoking and rolling joints exist and are easy to find if you simply google his name) he's got SERIOUS issues. Controlled substances and guns under the same roof and he's making death threats to people? The guy is playing with serious fire.

However, he will come out and simply call everyone here speaking ill of him "silly" or a "loser" because he created the world's best eliquid which OBVIOUSLY means he was right to make all these comments.

The dude seriously needs to be brought down several pegs. This is what happens when trash gets the idea that they are hot shit.

[–]bendahenEvic Vtwo Mini | Serpent Mini 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Success really isn't for everyone.

[–]project_twenty5oh1Bigglesworth Labs 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hey, you leave the weed out of this :P weed didn't do nothing wrong here, and weed is a friend of mine buddy

[–]thegoldenstatevapor 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Littering and.... littering and.... littering and....?

Smokin' the reefer

[–]BeFlatLine 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The issue isn't weed in this case. It's weed + guns and how the federal government (and even many local governments) treats the combination of the two in the US. Is it right? I'd say no. But until it works it's way through the courts and gets changed, the law stands.

[–]FilledWithHam 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

leave weed out of it you say? http://imgur.com/a/sPF0S

[–]FilledWithHam 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just read his comments over the months on here or his FB, which is public, the guy clearly has problems.

He can do NO WRONG. Anything he disagrees with is 100% wrong because he created a small business and this makes him the smartest guy in the world.

Reading through his FB, he regularly mentions how he made "XXX millions last year" and "paid for my cars and house in cash". Who the fuck talks like that?

I've met this kind of person many times. They are holier-than-thou because of one success they've had. Anyone who disagrees is a chump and loser.

News flash buddy, anyone who started a company in this industry simply got in at the right time. You'd have to be seriously retarded to have opened a vape company 2 years ago and NOT make a ton of cash.

The guy was a line cook who made eliquid, but talks like he's the goddamn 2nd coming of christ because of it. His meltdowns prior to this were bad, but this is the motherload.

How on earth nobody cared about it until now is beyond me. He's a bully and now it's proven.

[–]calidreamer555 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The writing was on the walls. I called him out plenty of times only to be met with downvotes from this community and snarky replies from TVC himself, often referencing his millions of dollars and new cars/wives.

Looks like we can all agree now though!

[–]NurseMiserable 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Wow. How unbelievably scummy. If this is true, I think vapor chef just bombed himself, because I don't think the people here will take kindly to this.

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    [–]NurseMiserable 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I guess at some point I should stop being surprised at just how much of a scumbag, and just how stupid someone can be. This guy is nuking his own business.

    [–]TresGay 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He charges 40% tax on his website and doesn't pay it to the department of revenue, he pockets the money.

    Are you sure about this? Collecting tax and then not paying it is a serious, serious crime. Are you sure that those funds are not being put into an escrow account while the PA ecig tax law makes its way through the court system?

    [–]Moobyghost 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well I will never buy from him again then. Only thing I liked there was Sansa anyway.

    [–]sectorsightFeb 2009 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    I wasn't a fan of the juice I ordered last year. I heard sooo much about how great Honey Pearry was. I ordered a bottle and some other flavors and wasn't that impressed. I was a little sick at the time, so I was about to order it again just in case my taste buds were just not picking up the flavor. After this, I'm pretty sure I want nothing to do with this company. So I guess, it there a honey pearry clone elsewhere?

    [–]NurseMiserable 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm sorry, I don't know. 😕

    [–]13th_floor032313 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    So I guess, it there a honey pearry clone elsewhere?

    Yes. I know Placid is good and Starbhurst was ok. There are a lot of similar juices listed on JuiceDB too.

    [–]sc0lm00JuiceDB (Admin) 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Try tucks from Crescent City clouds. Almost exactly the same in flavor.

    [–]13th_floor032313 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Haven't tried that one but CCC makes spectacular juice so I'm sure it's good.

    [–]sc0lm00JuiceDB (Admin) 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Here here. Iirc when p2501 reviewed it he said something like "lol honey pearry" and that was it.

    [–]ajfili 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Try Eden by Oakwood as well. Blows the door off HP in my opinion...

    [–]sc0lm00JuiceDB (Admin) 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    HP was hugely popular but it was back when 50/50 juice was the norm and 30 watts was considered crazy. When you add more vg the flavors changed or were muted. Quite a few of the popular juices from back in the day just aren't as good in max vg.

    [–]DGsirb1978 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There are some good Honey Pearry clones on ELR

    [–]just_an_ordinary_guyiPVIII with Kanger Subtank -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Did you let it steep? TVC juices are a must steep for pretty much anything I tried. 2-3 months is about where the flavor really comes out for me. But I'm with you. If this is true, I'm going elsewhere.

    [–]sectorsightFeb 2009 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I steeped for 2 to 3 weeks. Geez, I didn't know it was months.

    [–]vapegreen420 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lol. Oh shit! Got to let that sit for 18.72 months in a Lebanese cave on a prayer mat made of cotton balls. Your bad.

    Can't we just order actual good product that's ready to vape when it arrives?

    [–]just_an_ordinary_guyiPVIII with Kanger Subtank 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's my experience anyway. Not sure what others enjoy. But Yeah, it is a long time. The flavors seem a bit muted before 1.5-2 months.

    [–]LabRatLiquidswww.labratliquids.com 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I'm just here to watch Michael Jackson eat popcorn.

    [–]project_twenty5oh1Bigglesworth Labs 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    he's had enough there is way too much in that thread already

    [–]dogmods 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I haven't. Let it ride. This is the most interesting thing on ECR to me in months.

    [–]K0nichiwa_B1tchesTreebox Plus + Lush RDA 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    /u/Crucifixions

    [–]Voxbury 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I thought we page /u/PitchforkEmporium now for these delicate matters?

    [–]chefwatchdog 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The guy seriously can't help himself from talking trash. He needs to be removed from his social media for the sake of the his company. Remember the picture of him rolling a joint with the "dont fuck with me" shirt on came out?

    [–]DBLiquids 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This is a sad state of affairs no matter how you look at it. A lot of us vendors have tied ourselves to our personal profiles and information that, in a way, we're public figures to our customers. When you start acting like this, threads like these pop up. There's no excuse for TVC's behavior here or some other times in the past. I unfriended him 1-2 weeks ago because another thread just like this popped up in my feed and got sick of seeing things like that. This just isn't how responsible adults should act.

    [–]Sloth-SauceSupport HR2058 #IvapeIvote #VapingSavesLives 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Good point. There is a very fine line between individual and company. That balance can be hard to understand and navigate; especially when you incorporate the human element.

    *edit: Just to clarify I'm not condoning anything I read above. It's all very deplorable.

    [–]skyraiser9 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    TIL the word cockholster

    [–]Sreichy 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    RIP TVC

    [–]NiftyJuice20% off with Reddit20 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    r/TIFU

    [–]The_Vapin_CheeseHeadGO PACK GO!! 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Wow. I'd love to more about how this all got started and what threats were made if any towards The Vapor Chef. I will say though that at this point his reaction seems very childish and immature and I certainly will not be supporting any if his businesses and that's a shame since Keystone vapor was one of my favorite vendors.

    [–]DGsirb1978 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yup, I don't buy liquid much at all because I make it myself, but when I do it will never come from this clown

    [–]cloudCRAFT3RS 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wonder if his co workers (3 women who may be over weight) know how he feels about them.

    [–]sunnydubz 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This reminds me of the whole scenario with Watercooled Ind a few weeks ago. Such a silly way to bury your company.

    story if anyone cares

    [–]Cute_fluffy_kittens 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Great find! One last juicy (haha) bit of drama to end 2016!

    [–]HMCSTO 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    unprofessional

    [–]JustSomeGoon_cHana + Russian 91% 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Vapor Chef, you done fucked up.

    [–]Watchmaker85 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How to destroy your business 101

    [–]N307H30N3 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    aaand I am never giving him my business ever again.

    vapor chef has been my main website for the past 2 years. no way will i continue to support someone who acts like that.

    [–]Surelyujest_ 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    He needs some electrolytes.

    [–]TechnologyFetishSig 150 TC Smok TFV4 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Looks like he's salty enough.

    [–]SoberDreamsSigelei 150 w/ Velocity RDA 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He need some MILK

    [–]zestypotatoes 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    He was next on my "to buy from" list, but not now. Wow.

    [–]SoberDreamsSigelei 150 w/ Velocity RDA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Juice isn't even good. Honey Peary is his only decent flavor imo

    [–]BillTheCommunistCatReuleaux RX200, Smok TFV8, Sansa 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a shame too, because honey Peary is my all day vape. Now I don't want to buy a thing from this douchebag. Know of any alternatives that are similar?

    [–]13th_floor032313 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    If you or your family get into an internet fight DON'T DO IT ON THE OFFICIAL BUSINESS ACCOUNT. Dumbass. If true then also a criminal act.

    [–]certifiedwelder( ◑‿◑)ɔ┏AMALFI┑٩(^◡^ ) 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    it's on personal accounts

    [–]13th_floor032313 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    So that's why The Vapor Chef is highlighted in the screen shots like it is? oops... ;/

    [–]certifiedwelder( ◑‿◑)ɔ┏AMALFI┑٩(^◡^ ) 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Yea dong magnum has edited the screenshots and edited the vapor chefs real name. It took 5 minutes for me to find the original post on facebook.

    [–]Voxbury 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You're right - it really didn't take long. Took me a little longer than 5 minutes, but not much. He's trying to celebrate about it on his page with declarations of victory, but even people on his personal page are calling him a prick.

    [–]obliterayte 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I commented on that post... told him he ruined his business. He just replied "lol" and deleted either the post or blocked me.

    Edit: Appears he deleted the post. I think he now realizes his fuck up. I wasn't rude, just told him that this whole deal went viral and his business is going to suffer because he wanted to win an Internet fight.

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            [–]InvaderDJSigelei 150W w/Lemo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            ...Goddamn TVC. First rule of the Internet, especially when you're running a business on it is don't feed the trolls. This dude could have posted pictures of your kids sleeping in their beds and this wouldn't be a good thing to post.

            Just block, report, send info to the police if it's serious and let it die. This kind of bullshit is not a good look.

            Especially that doxxing BS. Even if it isn't true (which I don't think it is, sounds like typical Internet tough guy shit), how can a customer trust you if you're willing to obtain someone's personal information and leak it for a vendetta?

            I've been a customer of TVC for a long time, have bought juice from them as recently as Black Friday. Unless this is proven false after the dust settles or they do something to make this right, this will be the last time I buy from them. Such a goddamn shame.

            [–]RaekwonTheVaporChef 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Mark ass tricks, the lot of you

            [–]ujakuSX Mini Q class // Velocity v2 // 'nana Cream 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Upvote for visibility.

            Man... What the fuck happened to that guy? If I was one of his employees I would jump ship asap.

            He seems to be on some sort of downward spiral. Wouldn't be surprised to find out that guy was serious about him having some sort of drug problem. Especially after he mentioned tor/darknet in his threats.

            [–]fuckseancombs 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            100:1 odds hard drugs are involved.

            [–]megawatzSigelei 213 | 24mm Mason RDA 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Popcorn flavor 3mg thanks for the chance!

            [–]Kralexi 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            I wouldn't buy from this guy just from how unprofessionally he handles issues, period. Geez. That's just embarrassing as fuck to be involved with.

            [–]ujakuSX Mini Q class // Velocity v2 // 'nana Cream 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I haven't bought from him in years. Funny part is that 2-3 years ago he was a beloved ECR vendor. Nobody had any idea that he would turn out to be insane.

            [–]Arcadian_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            What an exciting way to burn you're business to the ground.

            People like this are why capers are stereotyped as douchebags.

            [–]NuclearVapesNuclearVapes.com 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Those damned capers!!!!

            ;)

            [–]Aethyr42 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The post must have been deleted, I'm not seeing anything weird on his FB page at all. It's sad most of his customers will never know what kind of guy they're sending money and their information to. I stopped ordering from him when the BlueCheck system was forced and was kinda missing his juice. This just stabbed a nail in that coffin.

            [–]rivinhalRX200S/Theorem RDTA 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Crucifixion time?

            [–]kaferenza 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Epic entertainment for the evening. Thank you for this :)

            [–]twatnado 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            So much cringe.

            [–]TxMonkey214 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It isn't just shitty. It's Federal. The Vapor Chef Hearts Prison Food!!!

            [–]TxMonkey214 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Sounds like he's working on a prison meatloaf vape recipe. Hope he doesn't think his new prison husband is too fat for him to be his bitch! He could get a psych exam, and beat the wrap!

            [–]Fuckaduckfuckaduck 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            http://imgur.com/KMNtf9u

            [–]GGALLIN1776Hohm wrecker G1 /crown tank/mutation x v4 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Everyone is an idiot now.

            [–]chuffaluffigus 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            You know, with just a really minor amount of detective work most people could probably find the absolutely batshit insane facebook thread that this screenshot came from......

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              [–]Madmadisangry 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              They just need to make sure that they have plenty of popcorn available, that thread is fantastically awful.

              [–]Middle_Kek 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              This guy is a fuck.

              [–]eonhausenGoon Squad 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              I can't remember the thread it was on. But I do remember him making some comments and they came off really really douchey. I got no qualms with the guy but, this is pretty fucked up.

              [–]DONG_MAGNUMdna + kabuki[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              later in the thread TVC posts screenshots of his bank balance to brag, it's insane how much a douche he is

              [–]TheVaporChuff 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Hey, they threatened to rape my wife.

              [–]clasicksstuffs 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              RIP TVC

              [–]TheDBchefquids 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              well now

              [–]SkepticSloth 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Another reason I'm glad I DIY. I don't know these people, don't want to, don't have to worry about giving them money...

              [–]giannislag94 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              We get it, you DIY.

              [–]Boondoc -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              how can you tell if a vaper DIYs? i don't know but let me show you box full of flavor concentrates.

              [–]The_Choir_Invisible 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Waaaay to many vapers assume the people they're buying juice from actually give a shit about them. Some do. Absolutely. But the problem sets in when you have no idea what is actually in that juice, the conditions in which is was made, how it was stored and in what it was stored, and so on.

              The number two reason people should be looking into DIY (no. 1 is price) is to make sure they know exactly what the fuck they're inhaling. If someone is as batshit crazy as these messages would seem to imply, do you really think they give all that much of a shit about the quality of the material they sell?

              [–]InvaderDJSigelei 150W w/Lemo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I don't need my vendor to care about me. Just get me my juice and keep my credit card info secure, this doesn't make me feel like I can expect that from TVC, which is too bad.

              [–]ajleece 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              What's the difference between a vendor that sells juice and a vendor that sells flavors?

              [–]Linguatron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              The vendors that sell flavors are people like The Flavor Apprentice, Cappella, FlavourArt, etc. Some other vendors resell their flavors, like Wizard Labs or RTS Vapes. All of the above don't sell juice, they don't sell anything ready-to-vape.

              [–]ajleece -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              But anyone in these situations could be an asshole.

              Although I would agree that it's more likely to happen from a smaller company.

              [–]mcali5terH-Priv + Griffin 22 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              This guy probably invested too much in expanding his business and now can't pay for the testing of his products for the US market. That amount of stress would ruin anybody.

              [–]LarryPer123 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Maybe has was inhaling those chemicals too long

              [–]nrfx2011 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

              The whole vape scene has gone insane. This FDA shit, and now MasterCard, not to mention all the new state stuff.

              So many high profile industry people have either totally publicly lost it, others have gone quiet, and quite a few have just walked away from the whole thing entirely.

              We're all slowly going mad facing down a twisted, confusing, and unpredictable future.. Some are coping with it better than others, heh.

              [–]Linguatron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              What happened with MasterCard?

              [–]nrfx2011 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It directly effects merchent service providers, really, but most if not all the requirements are being pushed onto vendors..

              They're requiring their own age restriction, 21+ only, require adult signature on delivery, requiring other specific age verification options, independent audits on product conditions, warning labels, etc, plus a new $500/yr high risk product fee.

              We're supposed to be in compliance by Jan 15th.

              https://eliquiddepot.com/prestablog-mastercard-triples-vape-mail-shipping-rates-n6

              [–]General-ColinBileNov '12 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Seriously wondering also.

              [–]teke367Join us at /r/ECRPoker (JoshUng) 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I definitely feel like we're joining this story somewhere in the middle.

              [–]Gimell420 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              How ironic that his business is about to go up in a big cloud of smoke

              [–]hopinfusedcorpseMoneypenny RSST 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Dude can't have a Facebook argument without people losing there mind but we got the king of that shit as president elect 😂😂😂

              [–]s1eeper21 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I don't get it. What happened? Any TLTR?