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Ask Slashdot: What's The Best Geeky Gift For Children? 74

Everyone's suggesting gifts to teach the next generation of geeks about science, technology, engineering, and math. Slashdot reader theodp writes: In "My Guide to Holiday Gifts," Melinda Gates presents "a STEM gift guide" [which] pales by comparison to Amazon's "STEM picks". Back in 2009, Slashdot discussed science gifts for kids. So, how about a 2016 update?
I've always wanted to ask what geeky gifts Slashdot's readers remember from when they were kids. (And what geeky gifts do you still bitterly wish some enlightened person would've given you?) But more importantly, what modern-day tech toys can best encourage the budding young geeks of today? Leave your best answers in the comments. What's the best geeky gift for children?

Ask Slashdot: What's The Best Geeky Gift For Children?

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    They'll be living on welfare by the time they grow up.

    • by msauve ( 701917 )
      How can they live on welfare when they have to pay for Social Security for old farts?

      Seriously, it's a zero-sum game. Ignoring personal/familial responsibility and relying on future generations to pay the bill is an ultimate fail.
  • One of the books by Randall Munroe?
  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Saturday December 10, 2016 @11:57PM (#53461779)

    Without all the action figure stuff that serves as training wheels their imagination, unless they've demonstrated that they need it.

    • If you are a member of a hackerspace, how about:

      An optics kit [hackaday.io]
      Some lego-enhanced optics components [hackaday.io]
      Other cool optics components [hackaday.io] using legos
      A home built robot [hackaday.io]
      3d-print an industrial robotic arm [hackaday.io]
      A modular clock kit [hackaday.io]
      Any sciency kit [hackaday.io]
      Any sciency toy [hackaday.io]

      There's a long list of interesting things you could *build* for your child, or build *with* your child, and if they break something or want to modify/extend something, you can build them a replacement or an extension.

      • There's a long list of interesting things you could *build* for your child, or build *with* your child

        Just give them a reprint of "Inertial-Electrostatic Confinement of Ionized Fusion Gases" and a bottle of heavy water...

      • LEGO Mindstorm has Simulink Support [mathworks.com].

        They have cheaper home licenses. If your kid can play Minecraft, they can use Simulink. I could hand away half of my job to highschoolers if they knew Simulink. (Job search Indeed in any part of the country).

        For younger kids I really wish they still sold Capsela [ebay.com]. My parents swear it's why I became an engineer.

        On the cheap end of the spectrum: Go to a thrift store. Buy a electronic thing for under $10. Take it apart. Google the chip numbers. (For some things it's a digital

    • mindstorm ev3 (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Wycliffe ( 116160 ) on Sunday December 11, 2016 @12:44AM (#53461897) Homepage

      I agree with the lego bricks and if you want to go one step further, get a mindstorm ev3. Yes, mindstorm is expensive but it beats almost any stem toy on the market. It has a low learning barrier to entry but is still pretty powerful and most importantly is not single use. I have bought my kids quite a few other stem toys like sphero, ozobot, mbot, snap circuits, littlebits, preprogrammed toy robots, etc... but most of them either have limited customization or you have to be a programmer to make them do anything cool. The mindstorm kit was the most expensive stem toy I have ever bought but it is the only one that my kids still play with on a regular basis as the rest are now mostly just collecting dust and collectively all the other dust collecting stem toys cost more than the mindstorm set and the mindstorm can basically replicate the functionality of all of them. The only real problem my kids have with mindstorm is that they can only create one thing at a time and must destroy it before creating something new.

  • A Sphero. They are extra cool, programmable, and there is a platform for people to make and share educational content
  • They have enough useless crap as it is.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    My mom was sick and we were staying with a family. They took us shopping for Christmas, and I found a crystal radio tuned to the local station. They bought that for me. When we got home, their son, who had chosen a funky fire engine, whined that I had the better gift. They took it away from me, and gave me that stupid firetruck. That was almost 6 decades ago, and I am still angry about it. A budding geek lost such a great toy. Later I got into TV repair and I maintained the family TV and radios through the

  • ...and they can create and print their own toys.
  • by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Sunday December 11, 2016 @12:28AM (#53461845)

    - old tube AM radio to take apart (I was 5 years old and had already been passionate about electricity and electronics for the previous 3 years or so)
    - crystal radio kit
    - build-it-yourself motor kit (very cool - I had to wind the armature myself)
    - countless ignition cells and lantern batteries
    - 100-in-1 electronics educational kit
    - walkie talkies
    - wood burning kit (never did any wood burning 'art' with it, but it was my first soldering iron)

    Along with new geek gifts for kids, consider old 'junk' that they can take apart, experiment with, and learn from; it won't cost much, and they won't be worried about breaking some new bit of shiny and pissing off Mom and Dad. And remember that the greatest gifts a parent can give to a geek child are TIME and COMPANIONSHIP. Take them to places that they'll love, but that they wouldn't normally go to or wouldn't discover on their own. When I was a kid my father took me to a local hydro-electric generating station. (I grew up in Niagara Falls Canada). And this was no tourist visit; he had a friend who worked there, and we were up on a narrow, high catwalk above the generators - a place where only employees were supposed to go. I'll remember that 'til the day I die.

    The above ideas aren't specific to Christmas - but this is a good time to remind ourselves of the gifts we can and should be giving kids all year to feed their passions and build their confidence.

    • Funny, I took my kids on a tour of a hydro plant last month. Not a sanitized tour either. At least they now know where electricity comes from.
    • by Kjella ( 173770 )

      - old tube AM radio to take apart (I was 5 years old and had already been passionate about electricity and electronics for the previous 3 years or so)

      Dilbert, is that you [youtube.com]?

  • by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt@@@nerdflat...com> on Sunday December 11, 2016 @12:34AM (#53461867) Journal
    suitable for all children from age 3 to 123
  • I believe these [zometool.com] provide immense fun.

  • What about for the geology geek/rock hound/pebble pup? They'd love for you to get them some opals, or fire agates, or celestite, or maybe some lapis, or perhaps a massive Moroccan trilobite.

    Not all geeky children gifts need to be technology-based. You aren't going to get a rockhound geek encouraged to get out and learn more by giving them a calculator.

    Slashdot's playing a really stupid exclusionary game by basically denying geekdom to massive subsets of science with this Ask Slashdot thread, especially sinc

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Sunday December 11, 2016 @12:44AM (#53461895)
    Assuming they're old enough. Lego's suck for learning real engineering. If that's a no-go maybe Lego Technic, but I still think the Erector sets your better buy.
    • I used to think that, then the kids got more and more legos and built things you couldn't possibly build with erector sets. Technic builds more stronger devices then erector could ever hope to.

    • If they've outgrown Legos, maybe a copy of The Anarchist Cookbook ?

    • One, the plural of Lego is Lego.
      Two, you don't form plurals with an apostrophe.

  • A rock tumbler [amazon.com] requires patience but has an awesome payoff.

    A metal detector [amazon.com] has a sense of adventure, finding bits of jewelry and coins at a playground or park.

  • Get them an age/reading-level-appropriate magazine on some scientific topic.

    Ranger Rick (National Wildlife Federation) is good for kids interested in nature.

    Monthly magazines with puzzles and games are good for the math/logic-type geeks-in-training.

    Comic book subscriptions and fannish magazine subscriptions are good for people whose geekdom is in literature, TV, or movies.

    Why paper in the age of digital media? Because it's concrete and tangible, and it still works when the Internet or electricity goes out.

  • As a kid, I made most of my own toys from cardboard, Popsicle sticks, toothpick, and twist ties with scissors, tape, glue and paint. And I could make just about any toy I had seen on TV commercials. Radio Shack and The Comic Book Store were my go to places. The best geeky gifts I remember as a kid from younger age to older age are: 1. Lego's and playmobil toys 2. electric train set 3. A clear plastic model of internal combustion engine and transmission with working stick shift (had to turn the fly wheel by
  • I would have originally said a mac laptop..... but, apple have destroyed what was insanely great.... ,and left the world with massively overpriced computer like objects that you cant even plug in a usb memory stick. You could go windows but that would be selling your kids heart to the devil, along with his browsing habits, shopping preferences and anything else microsoft want to monitor. You could go with a linux laptop like...erm....... errr.... Cant find one for sale. Scrub that. You could go with a
    • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

      I bought a really nice 2012 15 inch Macbook Pro for a little over 600 on ebay recently. 2.3Ghz Quad i7 with16GB of Ram and discrete Nvidia graphics. It's pretty sweet. I guess you can't upgrade anything on the newest ones though. This one is difficult but possible to change the battery. I think it's not necessary to keep shrinking everything to ridiculous proportions.

  • Get them good tools. Then teach them how to use them. I can barely remember disneyland, vacations, movies and the other passive activities from childhood. Building or fixing something with my dad or grandfather are all still strong memories.

  • Pine Book laptop. $89. Awesome.

    https://fossbytes.com/dollar-8... [fossbytes.com]

  • Just kidding

  • Let them learn about the old days when there was nothing to do on Sundays but watch guys throw a weirdly shaped ball around. Let them learn tech by 'rebelling' against your wishes, "Don't go into to tech, go outside and sports!"
  • Best geeky gift for kids? Time to play, have fun. Less tech toys that are meant to 'train them for tomorrow'.

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