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[–]stuuut 351 ポイント352 ポイント  (44子コメント)

The Donald reddit should announce at the next election that it will start commiting massive voter fraud. See how fast the democrats get strict voter id laws implemented.

[–]subbookkeepperAUS 147 ポイント148 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I already plan to vote in California in 2020.

[–]Keerected_RecordzARMY 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When is the cutoff in Cali for voting absentee-other-nations?

[–]FadingEcho 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (1子コメント)

six days after the election during the recount.

[–]Natetendo83USA 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm in the process of registering all of my ancestors to vote in 2020.

[–]SmithWessonMPNC 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't forget your pets.

[–]Natetendo83USA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've been voting for years.

[–]milhouseisa_meme 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What is the state law regarding the number of times you can vote?

[–]techmomo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depends, California is unlimited.

[–]Orlitoq 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit man, please get help... Talk to someone, anyone about your problems before you take things that far. I don't have the number on hand for your local Suicide Hotline, but there is no need to do something drastic like taking your own life and then getting added to the Dem registry of voters... Please get help!

[–]maciasusnNAVY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure you can, someone's dead dog managed to get registered.

[–]y90210 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (9子コメント)

They would never lock out their own constitutes. Look at the efforts and mind bending logical hoops they jump through to justify allowing illegals to vote.

[–]liberatedbacon97RUS 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Ive never seen it (thankfully), any examples?

[–]trumpsPEPEinMELANIA 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I feel like you're a shill if you are seriously claiming to have not seen this at all

[–]mrstickball 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Be fair - if he hasn't followed elections very well, he won't know.

[–]y90210 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nothing new here. Dems are always claiming ID discriminates because blacks can't figure out how to get identification. It flies in the face of logic because you really can't function in today's world without one.

[–]techmomo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you need ID to get welfare and food stamps?

[–]Meat_ConfettiMD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It falls under the general umbrella of "having your shit together", which they struggle with... on every level imaginable. Source: 15 year Baltimore resident.

[–]liberatedbacon97RUS 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah I just dont go actively looking for it

[–]shitsinyoursafespaceMA 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (10子コメント)

As crazy as it is, there's no chance they would do that. The number might not be as high as 3 million like Trump said, but I have almost no doubt that at minimum more than 1 million illegal immigrants voted, almost exclusively for Democrats. The Dems will block voter ID law under the rationale that it discriminates against minorities? Even when the ID's can be gotten for free? Complete bullshit

[–]Shoryuhadoken 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Every illegal immigrant with a drivers license most likely voted. They had the most at stake so we're also the most driven most likely to vote.

[–]toxeiaTX 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Too bad they can't be driven to become fucking citizens.

[–]Shoryuhadoken 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

With American immigration laws, they had no chance to become a legal citizen anyway. I don't blame the Mexican people who want a better life for crossing the border illegally, I blame homeland security and ICE for not deporting them.

[–]Nate_Bronze 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't blame the Mexican people who want a better life

I do.

If they're such hard-working, industrious, super awesome people, Mexico would be prosperous and their skills would be needed to make Mexico great again.

We should ask Democrats, "Why are we taking Mexico's most talented citizens, which hurts their homeland?"

[–]Shoryuhadoken 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously I'm talking about a Mexican person by itself.
Mexico is a shithole compared to the USA.
Not all people are the same.
I never claimed they're all hard working good people such as the democrats.
But position yourself in their shoes.
Your country is shit, your future and your life will be shit if you stay there.
Are you not going to cross the border and live in the USA (assuming you are a hard working person who just wants a better life)

I'm not saying crossing a border illegally is a good thing.
But it's Americas job to keep their borders secure and deport illegal aliens.

[–]headlineisBULLSHITNJ 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You don't need a drivers license number or SS number in cali. Just any old address.

[–]TrumpforceNY 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Same in ny

[–]headlineisBULLSHITNJ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm in NJ. Maybe I'll go vote in NY next year.

[–]catsandpancakesOH 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't understand. Minorities are far too simple to complete minor tasks most adults are perfectly capable of, so white liberals with superior intelligence have to vote FOR them. It's for their own good.

[–]KY_schreid_FikkenKY 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd like to see the ID requirements between the 2nd and the 15th amendment harmonized. In other words, the same ID requirements should be put forth to purchase a gun as to vote. Tendies everywhere...

[–]DragofireheartNH 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reverse psychology meta yo

[–]grassshrimpNJ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I already have a movement started and have 1,163 people who are going to register in multiple States, all swing States.

We're going to utilize the Amway model to significantly expand our illegal voting and even have a reward system constructed to compensate the top vote fraudsters.

I can't wait for the next election, I'll track how many fraudulent votes we cast, my guess is that with hard work, it will be in the hundreds of thousands range.

[–]camdavis9 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm sorry but are you admitting to breaking the law by committing voter fraud? Just because Hillary and the corrupt DNC commit voter fraud doesn't mean it's right legally or ethically for us. We're better than that.

[–]LorenzoPgBRA 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

16d chess. This will go viral and libtard will demand voter ID laws to stop the "horrible rayciss" from comitting voter fraud. Then when the democrat party elite refusese they will lose even more support.

[–]HungNavySEAL300Kills 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am a white supremacist neo Nazi ku klux klan leader cyclops first class and and the last Rhodesian officer, I'm so glad all my illegal votes in California have gone unchecked. I began my evil plan of purchasing derelict apartment structures all over California and filing hundreds of voter applications per building. My voter botnet produced hehehe well I shouldn't say but I'm just glad California doesn't require voter ID, let's just say I've never lost a single proposition vote. Thank GOD for no voter ID laws. I tremble and shake at the idea they might one day require voter id. But they never will, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[–]RickAndMorty_foreverSC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't wait to vote in 2018! How many times can I vote? Who knows. I might even rent a bus or something?

What will the liberals do..ask me for an ID?

[–]Krash32 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did anyone actually read the article? The fucking GOP in Michigan even said there wasn't any voter fraud, and Jill stein and the recount weren't even mentioned. Do you guys over here even know how to read? Jesus Christ.

[–]silentlurker2016VA 128 ポイント129 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Damn that really backfired on Hillary and Stein and the Dems...

[–]KingBrolyUSA 119 ポイント120 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I guess you didn't hear about Wayne County, MI (Detroit), huh? Massive Voter Fraud uncovered there. 30% of the state's votes compromised and essentially massively over-counted for Clinton. Considering Clinton carried that county by 300k votes, Trump could've easily won Michigan by 120-150k instead of 10k, after an investigation uncovers how much shit was done there.

[–]a_bearded_manWA 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The FBI got involved with Detroit elections about 10 years ago due to the amount of fraud. I'm trying to find a source (because I remember it happening) but my Google-foo is coming up short.

[–]KingBrolyUSA 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Republican Governor, Republican AG, Republican President who the FBI love (apparently). People are going down in Wayne County over it. And it's gonna be SWEET.

[–]a_bearded_manWA 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The political machines in the cities are well entrenched. It took way longer than necessary to get rid of Kwame, and even then his mom was still on the City Council. Dismantling that level of corruption is more work than just throwing the top people in jail - the citizens need to be reminded on a daily basis how they're getting screwed.

[–]KingBrolyUSA 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but this will be a good reminder that the people at the top there now are corrupt and act like they own their voice; not to mention it should last for a while. If Trump brings back jobs to Michigan, it'll wake up people that the people that claim to represent them aren't.

[–]Alpasaquatch 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People go to jail in Detroit almost daily for political crimes.

[–]umilmi81MI 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you live in Michigan please write your congressman about the voter fraud in Detroit. Here is the link to find your representative's email address.

[–]AutisticSwine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What should I ask him? I'm from Michigan.

[–]Redheadgrrl 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How would this ID law help in the Detroit situation where they pushed ballots through the counting machines multiple times? They could still do fraudulent counting, even with voter ID. The legislature should pass legislation where the ballots have some kind of bar code so they can only be counted once with the machines or something. It's a mess.

[–]techmomo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Voter ID is step 1. In 2018 there should be Federal overseeors like the Feds in the South.

[–]UbiquityZeroCA 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Next Broward county.

[–]Bucky76mj 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Watching that county sit at 99% forever was scary/funny. I like to think they were scrambling trying to fill out early ballots for her and came to the soulcrushing realization that she couldn't win Florida.

[–]DJ_Trump_2016FL 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Brenda snipes is corrupt and incompetent to the highest degree. I'm fully convinced she or people that work her office are responsible for massive amounts of illegal votes

[–]Wilreadit 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The election ends only when we can get her elected to her government approved post.

PRISON 2017

[–]japroct 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Good first step. Now for the rest of the states. Democrats say that it disenfranchises already hurt minority people and keeps them from voting. I am getting tired of saying that in this day and age, regardless of income or race, everybody has a photo ID of some sort. You cannot get a job, sign a lease, do anything in a courtroom, drive a car, receive welfare, receive ss, be on any subsidy, be part of any immigration program, or even cash a check without a valid, state issued, picture identification. There is no argument that supports an opinion that there are millions of legal citizens without a picture id or a way of getting one. My only bitch is that they should be issued for FREE simply because the law requires them on so many different things. I think it was Regan that offered free ids and still nobody took advantage of it. Because they were illegals interested in doing illegal activities. In other words, those that will not vote because of picture id mandates either normally wouldn't anyway or are only interested in doing illegal activities anonymously. Enough said.

[–]BritipedeUK 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (12子コメント)

The whole "but it hurts muh minorities" is such bullshit because -

  1. It associates being a minority with being so poor you can't afford basic identification

  2. People in India who make less than a dollar a week have mandatory ID's and they are literally some of the poorest fucks on the planet

[–]KingBrolyUSA 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Democrats don't want Voter ID because it means they can't cheat as much

[–]BIG_FKN_HAMMERUSA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well fucking DUH. looks at demtards

[–]japroct 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Completely agree.

[–]Jerkboy13AK 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm sure they could just waive the fees associated with obtaining IDs for lower income individuals. Problem solved! Or is that not the REAL reason?!? (it's not)

[–]RickAndMorty_foreverSC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well no because they can't figure out how to get to the DMV or find any documents and stuff. Fucking racists.

Source: Am black

[–]llDasll 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The GA did that in NC. Libs still threw a hissy and tied it up in the courts so IDs wouldn't be required for this election. With our new governor, I'm sure he's going to try to get voter ID overturned while playing the victim and sucking on Rev. Barber's teat.

[–]mrstickball 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ID's are about $10 to acquire. I know this, because a homeless guy that works for me has one. $10.

If you can't afford $10, I am sure there are ~1000 programs out there that can help you with $10. But I am certain the people that "Can't afford a $10 ID" are the ones that can afford a litany of other things.

[–]SeorgeGorosMI 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally don't think we should have to pay for IDs. And if we didn't, that would also destroy their argument.

[–]brickpicFL 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone who believes that poor minorities don't have access to identification never has been to a liquor store in the ghetto.

[–]llDasll 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In NC, IDs were actually going to be given away for free on the taxpayers dime, and still they fought tooth and nail to make sure it was on appeal for this election. There is literally no argument against it unless you imply that a certain part of the population is too dumb or lazy to get one. And, yet we're the racist ones?

Honestly, I'm not one for government overreach, and normally would be against our state government using my tax dollars to give people free IDs. But, in this case, I think it's extremely necessary.

[–]AutisticSwine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does an ID actually cost money?

[–]Togoland 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is crucial, no matter what side you are on. Free ID for each citizen.

[–]japroct 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep. During this administration I have noticed significant rate increases on everything either federal or state. Ids went from $15to$30, fishing/hunting licences went up 20%, even the cost to camp or cut firewood doubled. Its like the state has turned into a "for profit" entity for reasons unknown. At the same time, I work for minimum wage, waaaaay below poverty lines, but still make $17 too kuch monthly to receive food stamps with newly changed laws. The point being, I work, and try to do as much as I can for myself without other taxpayers having to pay for me. I was able to afford an id card, but it should be mandated free in all states.

[–]stemgang 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but the evil Republicans placed the DMV offices 100 miles away from all the poor people, and require you to renew your license every 42 days.

Wait a sec....neither of those things is true. It is easy to get a license, despite the incompetence of the DMV, and you only have to renew every 5-10 years. But still that is somehow too high a barrier.

[–]PresidenTrumpCamacho 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I call it the racist DMV theory. To these people the DMV is a scary place for minorities, where they never can and wont go for paperwork that relates to drivers licenses. Because? SUBMIT ANY ANSWER HERE

As a minority myself, there's nothing more infuriating than seeing a white liberal say I'm to stupid and poor to file some paper work. It's perhaps the most racist thing people can say about people like me without getting called out for being racist.

[–]DragofireheartNH 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't there free-IDs available for voting purposes?

[–]falkengun 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Voter ID's are free in Alabama. They even have vans that go around inner cities, and make voter ID's for people.

[–]bottomlines 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally agreed. And frankly, if you're not doing those things listed above (or doing them legally), you're not participating in society, so why the hell SHOULD you get to vote?

[–]dreamorpheus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed, you need an ID for practically everything, but no one brings up racism, except for when it comes to voting. I can't believe people don't see how crazy that is.

[–]avantvernacularNY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you don't have the agency to get an ID, you shouldn't have the agency to vote.

[–]umilmi81MI 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Great. Now what are they going to do about the poll workers running each ballot through the machine 6 times?

What are they going to do about the poll workers who write a count that's 6 times higher on the official ballot box.

What are they going to do about the election officials who signs and certify a count that is 600% higher than the paper ballots?

[–]shadilay_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

With the way we do it in Michigan I don't think running it through multiple times is as easy as it seems. The scantron won't count the vote unless the ballot is accepted. I had an issue once where my ballot wasn't accepted and the machine spit it out, never counting the votes. They had to get me a new one, it took a few minutes and I asked to watch them destroy my old ballot. So multiple feeds doesn't seem possible without being trackable.

Filling out empties at the end of the day though and bussing people around to different locations seems entirely feasible though. The fake news will try to pretend like that doesn't make a difference but that absolutely can in typical swing disctrics.

[–]cinesonic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there any proof of this actually happening?

[–]PerfectNemesisUSA 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

GET IT PASSED IN CALIFORNIA

[–]Jerkboy13AK 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (5子コメント)

For something like that to hit California, it would have to be federally mandated. And I think we're about to see a resurgence in the states rights movement among blue states.

[–]brickpicFL 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And I think we're about to see a resurgence in the states rights movement among blue states.

And for the past 8 years dems have been shouting about how the president needs more power to get anything done, now they're scrambling to delete all of that from their twitter feeds so they can bitch about the president being too powerful.

[–]avantvernacularNY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they had a time horizon long enough to think about things behind the next election, they wouldn't be democrats.

[–]CaptainHatefulWA 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They can have all the rights they want, the federal government will cut funding and we'll see how long they last.

[–]UnleashTheBeebo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They just legalized Marijauna, so I see a big toss up whether or not they will need federal funding, given how many people partake in California.

[–]elopez4024 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LULZ... No refunds, libs.

SANDERS CAN STILL WIN THOUGH

[–]MrDoe666 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It would be great if this influenced California to do the same. There is major voter fuckery here.

[–]Scorpion4TrumpCA 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If this gets implemented, and Trump does a great job as president, we might just win CA in 2020.

[–]chiggerofchivas 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wouldn't that be the shit, this is going to be one hell of a fight, but showing how hard he is willing to work bolsters my faith in our new president

[–]LavenderGoomes 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as there is the electoral college (probably won't ever change), then this will never be necessary.It's a non-issue; the left always wins CA no matter what. Whether fraud gets caught or not, it's probably a foregone conclusion, hence the lack of enforcement.

[–]cinesonic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there any proof of this voter fraud? Am a CA resident asking genuinely.

[–]TheRealMewtUSAF 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If only Jill Stein sued California for a recount, maybe we'd get voter ID laws there too.

[–]erastudil 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

kind of a big deal here this needs to be upvoted

[–]SJVolFanNJ 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (5子コメント)

“We are not aware of fraud related to the affidavit” option, said Fred Woodhams, a spokesman for Republican Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, whose office is reviewing the voter ID legislation and has not yet taken a position.

Come on man. This is straight from the article

[–]DocTamMD 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't get taken seriously if we mislabel articles. Sounds like a solid law though.

[–]dsjoerg 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Came here to say this

[–]TwoSpiceMaloneVA 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah wtf. OP probably didn't even read the article.

[–]uabroacirebuctityphe -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The title refers to this:

Current state law allows registered voters to cast a ballot without photo identification if they sign an affidavit affirming their identity under threat of perjury, an option 18,388 residents used in the Nov. 8 election, according to the Michigan Secretary of State.

Nearly half of those voters were in Wayne County, including 5,834 in Detroit.

OP's title is an exaggeration, but the underlying point is still correct - We have no way of detecting or preventing voter fraud.

If this were a server, people would laugh at the obvious security hole.

[–]LordRandyll 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will always baffles me that the left shows no objection to requiring ID for flying on plans or for purchasing alcohol, tobacco, even movie tickets...but for the incredibly important decision to vote this is "racist" and "disenfranchising".

No one is being asked to fill some dishonest voting test with misleading questions, there's no "gotcha" behind it. All that is needed is a valid government-issued ID. If someone cares enough about our country to vote, then it should be absolutely no issue for them to take the time to acquire one if they don't have a driver license.

[–]aveydey 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like Michigan is staying red in 2020, boys!

[–]Wise_BattaDC 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And Michigan never voted Democrat ever again

[–]Foobar789TN 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

About stinkin' time!

[–]herbalismWV 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their attacks make us stronger. Are you tired of winning?

[–]Freddy_J 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They only earmarked $8 million to help people get their photo ID. Holy crap that's so racist I can't even.

[–]dr_rosenbergUSMC 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least some good came of this. Now to get Broward county/FL on the ball with that.

[–]Blueonblue1234 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is great. It's too late now to demand a recount in California so let's make that happen next election. Would love a voter ID law there.

[–]glassramen 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a californian i agree. I would love to have a voter id law.

[–]brotherjustincrowe 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

...thanks, plant lady?

[–]SpecOpsAlpha 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Vote early, vote often (Dem credo)

[–]DANEDANE 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[–]TwoSpiceMaloneVA 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not what this article says at all.

[–]desertrat22 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pinch me!

NOTTIREDOFWINNING

[–]TonyVilla89TX 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feels Good Man.

1 down.... uh... how ever many more states that don't require voter ID to go.

[–]Wilreadit 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need a redo of the vote. This time make it count and vote for Hillary Clinton.

HILLARY FOR PRISON 2017

[–]Block_Helen 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks crazy plant lady!

[–]NeonVoxelTX 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Based Stein?????

[–]notbuyingthatUSAF 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm beginning to think so. I think she knew of voter fraud and wanted it brought to light. Styxhexenhammer has a video about it on youtube. We'll see.

[–]RoamBear 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's nothing in the linked article about voter fraud in Detroit. You're probably walking it in that direction from here, but isn't it important to have evidence when we make claims like this?

[–]cplanedriverCT 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm all for voter ID laws, but could someone post an article that shows the massive voter fraud? This article states that they found no evidence.

“We are not aware of fraud related to the affidavit” option, said Fred Woodhams, a spokesman for Republican Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, whose office is reviewing the voter ID legislation and has not yet taken a position.

If we're going to bash fake news we need to be a little more careful with our claims.

[–]Shit_in_a_Shoe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Americans can vote without a piece of government-issued ID that verifies who they are and where they live?

[–]CarLucSteeve 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yep, because if you make it mandatory it is, wait for it, racist and misogynistic.

The left truly thinks people cannot take care of themselves, it's maximum projection.

Edit: Lmao I was looking for the "edit button"

[–]Shit_in_a_Shoe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Man wtf kind of gong show are you guys running down there? Here in Canada you have to register your name and address with Elections Canada and they will mail you a voter registration card. You need to bring this card along with valid government issued ID to prove yourself and your address. You then vote on a paper ballot, which you must physically carry over to the box and put it in.

I don't get how you'd do it anyway. Otherwise anyone could walk up to a polling station, say they're so and so, live there, and vote, without any way to dispute?

[–]CarLucSteeve 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They allow voting with a Burka tho.

[–]cplanedriverCT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You must not be an American, and yes, in some places its true. Liberals say that requiring voter ID disenfranchises poor and minority voters.

I've never lived in a location that didn't require voter ID. Not requiring voter ID is usually prevalent in inner cities, which are typically democratic strong-holds, and anecdotally have higher incidences of voter fraud.

In this election, i was actually able to vote with an out of state license. Just brought in a piece of mail with my local address and I was good to go.

[–]bvwISR 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fake news, unfortunately. At least the headline the OP gives is a fraud! For the article doesn't support the OP's headline, and instead contradicts it: "We are not aware of fraud related to the affidavit [option]”, says the REPUBLICAN legislator interviewed in the article.

It is sure, from common sense that there was massive fraud. But that is NOT at all what the article claims.

[–]uabroacirebuctityphe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He did exaggerate, but there are many who believe that thousands of those "no ID" votes are people voting from out of state or voting multiple times.

Current state law allows registered voters to cast a ballot without photo identification if they sign an affidavit affirming their identity under threat of perjury, an option 18,388 residents used in the Nov. 8 election, according to the Michigan Secretary of State.

Nearly half of those voters were in Wayne County, including 5,834 in Detroit.

[–]soccorsticks 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anyone have a legit source on this voter fraud. The article in the OP says nothing and a quick Google search gave me less than trustworthy sites.

[–]LearnedGeneral 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He just made a fake headline. Welcome to the disinformation age.

[–]monsterandroidND 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Michigan will always be a Republican State now that they passed this voter ID law :D

[–]umilmi81MI 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They still need to stop the fraud in Detroit. 36% of the districts in Detroit were caught committing fraud in the recount. At least one was as much as 600% more electronic votes than ballots. And the fraudulent ballot count was certified by an election observer.

It doesn't matter if the voter had an ID if they just keep running the same ballot through the machine 6 times each.

[–]fuku_spez 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Republicans won't let that happen again, right?

[–]hennnyUK 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The demographics ARE changing, and it's certainly not in a way the Democrats want.

Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Maine are ours for keeps if things go the way they continue to go.

[–]hastyshaunUSA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[–]No_stop_signs 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"When keepin' it real goes wrong."

[–]notbuyingthatUSAF 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the law in Missouri already, I'm proud to say.

[–]jgagnon_in_FL 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

as title states, "after Stein-backed recount finds mass voter fraud in Detroit", article does not reference this at all - any valid references?

[–]PhoBueno 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am glad Michigan is enacting this legislation but the title of this post is misleading:

“We are not aware of fraud related to the affidavit” option, said Fred Woodhams, a spokesman for Republican Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, whose office is reviewing the voter ID legislation and has not yet taken a position.

[–]shakejunt454 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nowhere in the article does it say anything about confirmed cases of voter fraud.

[–]white_property 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After he is inaugurated he should audit the whole damn system. 2018 will be stolen twice as hard and he will be a one term president if this shit is allowed to slide.

[–]Yakk_Attack 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess that money wasn't a waste after all, lol

[–]ddot196 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do they keep using the "it'll disenfranchise voters" argument over and over? You literally need a photo ID for practically anything anymore! Why should voting for the president be any less important?

It's almost as if the left is saying that people are too stupid to know how to get an ID.

[–]Falcon_DefencePA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those against this should be watched very carefully. Are you listening NSA? (of course you are assholes)

[–]clucas101 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People too poor/busy to get an ID are going to be too poor/busy to vote.

[–]NocturnalPatrol 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, so that's why the recount was halted.

[–]Shit_in_a_Shoe 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait wtf you Americans don't require a piece of government issued identification to verify yourself and address/precinct(I think you call them)?

[–]Volarionne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some states do and some dont. Some only require a photo ID which could be from your workplace. The places with no ID tend to vote overwhelmingly Dem.

[–]AvatarousNY 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Where in the article does it reference fraud? Please don't editorialize posts without evidence to back it up. Makes us look bad.

[–]TaxAllHairDyeUSA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah it only mentions provisional ballots from people with no ID. I don't like this myself, but there's nothing in the article that details fraud from these ballots.

[–]I____beforeitwascool 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Article doesn't mention fraud at all. I know there WAS fraud, but this post title is misleading.

[–]Volarionne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The legislation seeks to “protect the integrity of every single Michigan citizen’s vote, because every vote is diluted if fraudulent votes are cast,” said Rep. Gary Glenn, R-Midland.

And at the end it says

The proposal will help “deter and detect fraud, however widespread it may or may not be,” Lyons continued.

[–]AvatarousNY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP says he took the wording from the original headline on mobile. Fair enough, but I don't like upvoting headlines that don't agree with the content of the article. Odd that they would change it.

[–]chisau 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like we should all donate to the "Jill and Hill recount Shame tour "

[–]igitsARG 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you plant lady

[–]blunt_personBRA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you, silly plant merchant.

[–]mathematics_tutorTX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

well, that back fired

[–]Faxanadude2015NC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welp. MI is a red state now. Good job, Jill

[–]centsoffreedomGA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is it in the south where we have DOJ Civil Rights Deivision watching our precincts and we have to present ID when voting? It doesn't even make sense.

[–]MrMolester 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Was Jill Stein being 4D chessed all this time?

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[–]LearnedGeneral 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

“We are not aware of fraud related to the affidavit” option, said Fred Woodhams, a spokesman for Republican Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, whose office is reviewing the voter ID legislation and has not yet taken a position.

“There’s certainly no proof” that any voters who cast ballots without photo identification last month were committing fraud, but they or their peers could nonetheless face a “modern-day poll tax” under the legislation, said Rep. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor.

Why are you lying?

[–]TyroneRoachby 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's another form of liberal racism. They act like minorities can't get a state ID. It's ridiculous and blacks think the same. They all have a driver's license. That's all it would take. Illegals would be btfo but that's the point. Fuck em

[–]i_am_soooo_screwed 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Confused... they already require your driver's license when you go vote.

[–]blackenethUSA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

“There’s certainly no proof” that any voters who cast ballots without photo identification last month were committing fraud, but they or their peers could nonetheless face a “modern-day poll tax” under the legislation, said Rep. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor.

FUCK YOU JEFF. NO PROOF EXISTS BECAUSE YOU PROHIT POLICE FROM INVESTIGSTING AND ENFORCING VOTING LAWS. YOU DON'T WANT PROOF AS YOU LIKE THE FRAUD THE WAY IT IS.

[–]SamusBarilius 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, but this is just entirely misleading. The article clearly states that there was NO evidence that those who voted without voter ID did so illegally or improperly, but that the Republican House of Representatives decided to implement the law just in case.

The headline is wildly inaccurate, I hope everyone reads the article.

[–]Shodan30 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how the Dems refer to this as a 'poll tax' but when it comes to forcing us to pay for health care, its 'not a tax, its a fee'.

[–]themeneMT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"There’s going to be arguments, voters aren’t going to understand"

How dumb do democrats thing their electorate is? MT has voter ID laws. Just bring your ID. Hell, the entire country of India has voter ID cards.