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[–]pipelyfe 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (27子コメント)

They make it sound like a far-fetched idea by saying people believe there are tunnels and they're actually keeping kids underground housing them at the pizzeria. I don't know where anybody who has research this has came out and said that they are harboring kids underneath the pizzeria. Fake news outlets were the one saying that nobody else has made that claim thus far if so link it and show me proof.

[–]fat_osvaldo 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (17子コメント)

The main talking point used to discredit it that I"m hearing as well is that "Hillary Clinton is running it".

No that's never been said.

[–]ganooosh 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (15子コメント)

That's what I was going to say... the first thing they say is fake.

"hacked by russia" another unverified claim.

Interesting how people can get on a pedestal against so called fake news and spread fake news.

[–]bittermanscolon 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why they keep calling this a part of the "fake election news". If this was just about Alefantis, the guy who somehow managed to garner a title of one of the 50 most influential in Washington, a Pizza shop owner, that by itself is certainly strange. So, they attach hilary to it.

EDIT - I also shouldn't fail to include that through Alefantis, Podesta should be the next best guy to look at.

[–]goatluver1337 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

"hacked by russia" another unverified claim.

What like ALL of Pizzagate? HOLY SHIT. SMOKING GUN!

[–]ganooosh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

At least get somebody to actually disprove some of the main concerns of the pizzagate folks. Simply lashing out and claiming something is fake doesn't explain anything.

There's a huge difference between a conspiracy theory and people outright claiming russia as a country was hacking us as some people are saying. That's as much a conspiracy theory as anything.

[–]goatluver1337 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol the world doesn't work like that. You don't prove you're not a paedophile it's up for you to prove he is a paedophile. Innocent until proven guilty or at least have some real evidence and not something which is pure speculation and probably insane amounts of misinterpretation.

[–]ganooosh [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Actually it does. A reasonable person would say ohhhh I was just chatting in code with my friend about "insert something not illegal" and get people to stop with the pedophile code words they've put together.

They're choosing however to leave the key players quiet and call everything fake news and pretend people are crazy for having legitimate concerns.

I mean, look at this video... Colbert is presenting pizzagate to his audience from a second hand explanation somebody else must have given him in which they suggest people are claiming that hillary herself and podesta are running a child sex ring. Afaik that's completely false in a gross misrepresentation of how much people think.

The outlash is also particularly interesting. If this was as silly a theory as it's painted, it wouldn't be on every news channel and tv show that's running.

[–]goatluver1337 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It would because that's what's going on at the moment. The fake news / alt-right narrative and this is a product of that narrative which has had a few minor incidents over the last month and a major one on monday.

Colbert even says he is a entertainer not a reporter so don't listen to him for the news so his involvement is actually irrelevant.

[–]-VismundCygnus- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At least get somebody to actually disprove some of the main concerns of the pizzagate folks

This has been done over and over and over and over. It's so easy to disprove every single claim because they're all make-believe nonsense. It clearly doesn't matter to any of these people. They have their minds made up so they're going to believe whatever they want. The evidence doesn't matter, the evidence has never mattered. That's why there isn't any evidence. Their 'evidence' consists of "We think these people are evil" and therefore it's apparently true.

[–]skinny_reminder 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what NPR said as well. They have the whole scandal wrong.

[–]Bhazor 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

But you people do believe there are tunnels. There are 5 posts on the front page right now about the secret tunnels. You can't say there are secret tunnels and then complain when someone says you believe there are secret tunnels because suddenly you think it makes you sound like a lunatic.

[–]blacksoulo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every major city has tunnels: secret, little know, and well known. Ottawa has loads. It's funny that people can't believe that people delivered goods and even energy in a different way.

[–]Fullofshitguy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are tunnels and they are no secret. They also have zero to do with the story.

[–]SupremeMemeLord 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think secret tunnels are that crazy of an idea to begin with tbh

[–]bernitallup 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except there are secret tunnels, so using that argument to discredit the group only ends up discrediting you.

[–]Pazians 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Taking advantage of an already established tunnel system is so plausible I'm Getting a stiffy

[–]SmedleysButler 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He said don't get your news from me.....excactly. Don't listen to anything he says on the subject because he's obviously ill informed.

[–]SkepticalFaceless 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But here's an additional 22 minutes of my opinion I'll frame as incontrovertible fact, and you'd be an idiot to disagree with me.

[–]poodlepaws 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (97子コメント)

What reason would Colbert have to make a 10-minute segment on something so inconsequential and generally unknown by both sides of the political spectrum? This isn't damage control - it's preemptive protection by the people above Colbert. It's hard to say where the puppetry ends and where control begins.

I should note that I am not convinced that PizzaGate is a real thing. There are just a lot of strange connections and coincidences that need to be explained. I'll remain skeptical on this one, but I'd love to hear an independent analysis of the findings.

[–]tridentgum 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This subreddit is ridiculous lmao.

"He says it's fake and not true .... must be real and true or else why would he spend time on it?!?! It's not like he has an hour to fill or anything!"

[–]UltraLisp 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (55子コメント)

I'd love to hear an independent analysis of the findings.

That's exactly what you are getting here on r/conspiracy.

[–]Parapraxia 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (53子コメント)

yup, independent from reality.

[–]UltraLisp 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (52子コメント)

Independent from the reality constructed by the mainstream media, yes.

[–]Parapraxia 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (51子コメント)

Nope, reality, that which is based on facts and verifiable evidence.

[–]UltraLisp 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (40子コメント)

So, are you saying there is no reason to investigate ol' Jimmy based on the circumstantial evidence? Are you well versed in this space? In other words, are you familiar with the mountain of circumstantial evidence that is extremely damning? I can't imagine a person being so dismissive about this unless they haven't actually investigated and are thinking they are informed after only seeing the MSM response.

[–]Parapraxia -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (38子コメント)

You use twisted logic to believe what you want to believe. You do not engage in scientific skepticism, you are not a rational, critical thinker. You do not understand the burden of proof or even the most basic logic, and given your deep rooted belief in what is possibly the most absurd conspiracy of the last decade that's not likely to change any time soon.

If people can't understand or navigate the reasonable criticism from Colbert, and instead fold that criticism into their over-arching conspiracy theory they are pretty much a lost cause.

[–]fairie_poison 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (25子コメント)

vatican proven to diddle kiddies. uk elite proven to diddle kiddies. pentagon/govt workers aaalmost proven to diddle kiddies a few years ago but the investigation uh... "ran out of resources"

but THIS, thinking that a pedo ring could be running in WASHINGTON DC of all places, has to be crazy conjecture and conspiracy. These are our elected officials fighting hard for their constituency. /s

[–]Parapraxia 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Because these things have happened in the past, that does not make every crazy claim of these things in the present or future by default, true.

And if you are going to make allegations, you better have solid evidence, this is absolutely not what pizzaheads have.

You also avoid the elephant in the room, it's not the claim that it could happen in DC that is absurd, it's the completely made up evidence that a pizza joint with no basement is running a fuckin paedophile child eating ring tied to the highest people in Washington, who all agree to use fucking 4chan code words.

The entire cluster fuck is based on the shittiest most irrational displays of echo chamber thinking I think has ever been seen. Yes people who subscribe to this theory are in fact crazy, and do need to grow the f**k up.

[–]choufleur47 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just saying, the owner himself said he used the basement to store tomato sauce for the pizza. A year ago. Of course now he says there isn't any basement, but it proves you didn't even look at the information available in mainstream media.

[–]Pazians -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you like that Jimmy Comets Instagram profile picture is a statue of an ancient boy lover who serviced the elites. I believe he was one of the favorites. Isn't that funny.

[–]fordosan 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It wasn't reasonable criticism, at least not in the sense that it's goal was to elucidate the subject. He said it was entertainment. At best it was a fun send-up, at worst it was an attack on a straw man.

All you've contributed to the conversation is: "You're crazy! Grow up!"

[–]Parapraxia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What's the logical fallacy for when any contradictory evidence or logic from absolutely anybody is just more proof that your unfounded illogical assumptions are true?

[–]037_Engineering 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The person you are responding to never made that argument. I dont buy into the Pizza thing either and I am a big Colbert fan. But what he said on his show didnt do anything to argue PG. He actually used legitimate false equivalency (and not in the way that /politics likes to claim its used) to support his straw man argument. It was incredibly weak. His source was a CBS article that also didnt read anything into the claims, they merely pre-supposed that it is ridiculous. That presupposition has cost a few publications quite a bit of credibility in the last few months, what I mean by that is that media outlets feel okay with publishing fact based on how they feel about the story they are covering. Which means that CBS clearly did not try to understand the claim and published anyway. So Colbert can respond to the CBS article and not to the actual claims - the definition of a straw man. Furthermore to throw WL under the PG bus was absolutely asinine and actually makes me want to research this myself.

[–]fordosan -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mania, psychosis, or dementia.

Edit: To be clear, there was no evidence or logic in Colbert's segment. There was no argument. Watch it again, the only thing relevant enough to be considered "evidence" is the statement from Alefantis where he says they don't have a basement. That's interesting, that's a material fact that's easy enough to verify or refute, that's a thread to be tugged.

The rest is him shitting on redditors unrepresentative of the more journalistic individuals investigating this thing, disingenuously reducing valid arguments "'They noticed the emails mentioned pizza more than usual.' That can only mean one thing: sex trafficking ring!", and the second half of segment was about media collusion with politicians—a totally unrelated topic.

I like Colbert, I have a lot of reservations/suspicions about the motivations behind wikileaks and pizzagate. But for you to adopt your arrogant, hostile, demeaning tone, go on about scientific skepticism, critical thinking, rationality and logic, and then to point to this asinine segment as some kind of evidence or critique is absurd. I'd pity and humor you if I didn't think it was disrespectful to the people who've actually spent a lot of time and effort researching this.

[–]Pazians -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Haha you act just like the ass holes from true detective. When true detective truly had less evidence then we do.

Point is you haven't seen the evidence. fact of the matter is the pizzagate had enough steam on the Internet where the pope had to declare it a sin....

They say it's not true well let's just see how false it is. Pizza gate wont stop its gonna be a slow burn but it's going to be second 9/11.

Im a comedian in Hollywood seeing colbert do that bit was the antithesis of comedy. It was purely driven by the agenda. the fact as a comedian he was using fake news and not using the words to play with punchlines blows my mind.

[–]Parapraxia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Haha you act just like the ass holes from true detective. When true detective truly had less evidence then we do. Point is you haven't seen the evidence. fact of the matter is the pizzagate had enough steam on the Internet where the pope had to declare it a sin.... They say it's not true well let's just see how false it is. Pizza gate wont stop its gonna be a slow burn but it's going to be second 9/11.

lol...wow, that's some uh, compelling arguments you got there.

Funny thing about evidence, you can claim to have it all day long, but when it turns out to be a giant steaming pile of crazy made up bullshit, people tend to call you on it.

Edit: BTW your "more evidence than True Detective" claim is proven false in like the first scene of the show, which contains a body and crime scene lol

[–]Pazians 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol my mistake for trying to talk to you one on one like a human my fault lol

https://i.sli.mg/lwgIgH.jpg

That's plenty and there's more.

[–]xenmate -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think that guy is going to understand half the words you wrote, but it's a nice attempt.

[–]WhiteMorphious -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stand by to be called a shill.

[–]unruly_mattress -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, are you saying there is no reason to investigate ol' Jimmy based on the circumstantial evidence?

If you got have a crime and all you have is circumstantial evidence as to who is the criminal, go ahead and investigate. If you want there to be a crime but all there is is a bunch of .jpg files and 4chan posts then you shouldn't investigate.

[–]beta_white_male 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

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    [–]Zig_Zagged -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The fact you disassociate by using the term "you people" reeks of shill. If you're going to earn that minimum wage to shit post you may want to change your approach.

    [–]Parapraxia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Aaaand the shill gambit finally, boy it took longer than usual.

    Allow me to clarify "You people", refers to those who believe and propagate the insane pizzagate conspiracy.

    [–]whatmaidoinghere [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    While I don't think you are a shill, you certainly sound like one.

    You are lambasting people for coming here with preformed opinions.

    Then you come here with a preformed opinion.

    wtf?

    [–]SovereignMan[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.

    [–]Parapraxia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "Just the facts, make up your own mind" ....as we bombard you with tenuous connections and absurd self created conclusions like a simple a common geometric logo means "boy lover". You people are committable.

    [–]Pazians 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Like the dkim verified emails?

    [–]royalstaircase 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    [–]SkepticalFaceless 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Comparing pizzagate coverage to a clear 100% holiday comedy bit is.... a stretch. It's baby and bathwater.

    [–]royalstaircase [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    If you're gonna analyze a comedian monologue about pizza gate you gotta compare it to other comedian monologues

    [–]unruly_mattress 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    His job is to make people watch his show. Talking about pizzagate and the absurdity thereof is a way to do just that.

    [–]Foxtrot56 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Because it was a hilarious segment that was topical because a crazy man entered a restaurant and threatened people with an assault rifle. Fake news is a big topic right now and pizzagate easily falls into the category of fake news.

    [–]Joeleus 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Also Colbert is a redditor. And was directly mentioned in the recent wiKilEaKs release (which to this subs credit did have people say it was stupid). So it was personal for him as well

    [–]037_Engineering 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Attacking WL was the most idiotic thing i've seen him do. That is like blaming BLM on the NYT for publishing info on police shootings. I've lost about all my respect for Colbert on that one statement.

    [–]xenmate 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    No, it's because it's fucking hilarious and he hosts a comedy show, and you idiots actually pulled him into it.

    Jesus man, you guys are sheeple.

    [–]SkepticalFaceless 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So watch his hypnosis and just assume it's all for jokes.

    These guys don't get these roles in media unless they have the ability to influence.

    [–]xenmate 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They get the roles in media because they are charismatic and funny and people want to watch them, which means they get to sell advertising slots to the highest bidder for big bucks. There is no "hypnosis", it's called entertainment. Does he push an agenda? Sure, everyone does, he is left leaning and he is open about it. Is he part of a larger conspiracy to cover up a peadophile ring? LMAO.

    [–]WhiteMorphious 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I mean god forbid facts get in the way of your point but he's not on comedy central.

    [–]donjohn69 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a massive msm damage control campaign to discredit what's really going on. A new term "fake news" was invented because of the need to reenforce the lost validity of msm. The effort is tremendous. It's going all the way to the Pope.

    [–]davoarid 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (22子コメント)

    I'd love to hear an independent analysis of the findings.

    After studying this in great detail, I've come to the conclusion that John Podesta and his friends enjoy Italian food and modern art.

    [–]nanonan 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I agree. I would however add that his close friends include no less than three convicted child molesters and his taste in art is of the children in bondage variety.

    [–]SkepticalFaceless 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's almost as if they wanted to create a plausible cover story!

    [–]lamentationsoftheir 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    I know I can't wait to hang my serial killer sculpture in my home!

    Also, totes normal to have teddy bears in your bedroom when you don't have kids.

    [–]davoarid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I know I can't wait to hang my serial killer sculpture in my home!

    Is this a reference to Louise Bourgeois's "Arch of Hysteria"? If so, I hope you have money--her work ain't cheap.

    [–]lamentationsoftheir 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Yes it was, and no, I can't afford her work. Taking a quick glance at her art though...yeah, no thanks. I'll stick to Doré.

    [–]davoarid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    I'll stick to Doré.

    The guy who specialized in sexualized paintings of underaged girls posing with animals??? (See here and here???) Jeez, no wonder you're so into PizzaGate!

    [–]lamentationsoftheir 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Woah, woah, woah, hey, being attracted to paintings of little girls holding Shi Tzus is totally normal behavior. What are you, some kind of intolerant Christian?

    Shout out to /r/pedofriends!

    (for the idiot horde, yes, this post is sarcasm)

    [–]lamentationsoftheir 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I know you were joking, but Gustave Doré was who I was actually referencing.

    [–]davoarid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Gustave Doré

    Gustave Dore's "Andromeda"

    Who's the sicko, exactly?

    [–]lamentationsoftheir 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I'm a perv, don't get me wrong, but my kink is feet, not kids.

    Who's the sicko, exactly?

    We all are, in our own special ways!

    [–]davoarid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    My buddy who likes the Hostel movies, though--it's safe to assume he is a serial killer, right? At least give me that much.

    [–]beta_white_male 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    thanks for reminding me I need to get more teddy bears

    [–]beta_white_male 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    [–]davoarid 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Yep. You can Google-search by image, and it looks like those paintings are by Biljana Djurdjevic, a Serbian artist who started her career in 2003 (after getting a Masters in Fine Arts in 1997).

    Here's a story about Tony Podesta's art collection:

    When they buy, Tony and Heather buy big. At a given moment, their collection hovers around 900 pieces, higher if a major art fair closed recently. The emphasis is on photo-based works, though sculpture and paintings are also featured.

    With more than half their trove currently in storage, Tony and Heather, like notable collectors Eli and Edythe Broad in Los Angeles and Don and Mera Rubell in Miami, are considering buying a public space to show their works. In the meantime, the couple sends as many pieces as possible to traveling museum shows and displays the rest at home. In their Woodley Park and Falls Church residences, pictures hang salon style, floor to ceiling, like very, very expensive wallpaper. Tony started buying art at the annual auctions of Washington Project for the Arts -- a local alternative art venue that was once a very hip place but is hardly on par with today's major galleries. Today, though his habit has grown voluminously, Tony describes the evolution as more a dedicated hobby than an obsession.

    "Some people spend a lot of money on golf," says Tony, who speaks in energetic spurts. "Like they play golf, I play art."

    [–]beta_white_male 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Though often politely ignored, "Soliloquy VII" is rarely forgotten. Tony and Heather love it. They crane their necks to hear the whispers generated when the pols stop in. Tony often uses the work to launch into a story about Hillary Clinton's visit, when she ducked and tiptoed around the work lest any photo opportunity capture her alongside the naked figure. "You've got to be pretty secure to have an eight-foot-tall naked man in your living room in Washington, D.C.," Heather says of her husband's choice.

    Folks attending a house tour in the Lake Barcroft neighborhood in Falls Church earlier this year got an eyeful when they walked into a bedroom at the Podesta residence hung with multiple color pictures by Katy Grannan, a photographer known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43480-2004Sep22.html

    [–]davoarid 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Yep, that's the one. More evidence in support of my theory that John Podesta enjoys modern art.

    [–]beta_white_male 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    more evidence that these are sick fucks and so are you

    [–]davoarid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Because.....they collect art? I'm very confused. How does the fact that John Podesta is an art collector support your theory that he is a "sick fuck" (or this sub-reddit's theory that he abducts and rapes young children)?

    [–]Horus_Krishna_4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Viacom, owned by redstone, pals with red shield

    [–]GundalfTheCamo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Quite many of his segments are on inconsequential topics.

    He's also got a long history of doing comedy bits on conspiracy theories, back in his Colbert Report on Comedy Channel.

    [–]vortex_pool 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    I couldn't help shake the vibe of just how phony and artificial his segment on PizzaGate was... slow, awkward throughout and thinly covered up by the fake laugh track. If there was no laugh track - he'd just look like an idiot.

    [–]pataganja[S] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Well he is a comedian, and I just thought it was odd how he mentions the EXACT SAME things every news station mentions. No real facts. I've been following this conspiracy the whole time and the first time I ever heard anything about underground tunnels was the news saying that's what people believed, just goes to show how artificial they all are

    [–]DPerman1983 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I bet they bring this up because when the McMartin Daycare abuse/pedophile scandal came to light 25-30 some-odd years ago the big thing were the underground tunnels claimed by so many of the children. It's something familiar to the general public and it's perceived in mainstream news that the tunnels were a hoax, even though they were not(There was an extensive investigation by acclaimed archeologist E. Gary Stickel Ph.D and he found overwhelming evidence of 2 tunnels proclaimed by the children). The investigations concluded before the end of those trials but the prosecution never used the findings in court. They're just trying to plant shit in people's minds so they can move on to more subterfuge and distractions.

    [–]SkepticalFaceless 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I remember that. They went and dug out the tunnels. Fucking sick.

    [–]HEWASOUT 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The fuck are you talking about? The tunnel is real but its really a section of the subway closed off to the public since 95.

    Everything colbert said was false was actually true.

    [–]flartibartfast 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    that is how talking points work, everyone has to say the same thing.

    [–]Kadrik -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    he mentions the EXACT SAME things every news station mentions.

    the first time I ever heard anything about underground tunnels.

    Do you even realise how dumb you sound?

    BTW tunnels. Please.

    [–]royalstaircase 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    It ain't a laugh track, you can get tickets from his website.

    [–]a-dark-passenger 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The show (not this one specifically) shows the audience all the time. This isn't a sitcom. It's a show tapped live in front of an audience, if people don't know just that basic stuff, I feel bad.

    [–]037_Engineering 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Have you ever been to a taping of a show? Ive been to several. Including Colbert on CC. They use laugh tracks even when they use a live audience.

    [–]NotTimLeary -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    People should also know that the audience is coached to laugh at everything for the sake of the cameras

    [–]a-dark-passenger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Are they cut off the team if they don't laugh?

    [–]BabyBunt 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    "I really hope you don't get your news from me, because newsflash -- this isn't news."

    "...and the craziest fake news of all is something called pizza gate."

    Proceeds to provide zero evidence, shows an Alex Jones clip, then shreds some paper.

    GOOD FUCKING GAME, BRO.

    [–]redrabbit33 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He basically did and said exactly what someone guilty of all this would say and do. Or at least to throw attention off and create an air of stupidity around the whole thing. I've had multiple people mention "fake news" right upon mention of anything Pizzagate related. So the brainwashing is clearly working. Disgusting.

    [–]SkepticalFaceless 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The brainwashed call it "getting unbiased information."

    [–]redrabbit33 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He basically did and said every single thing that someone involved in this or connected to people involved in this would say. No concrete defence of any kind, just say "ALT-RIGHT, RUSSIANS, FAKE NEWS, IT'S A LIE!" Without saying why it's a lie and the explanation they do try giving is so clearly not what made people go down this rabbit hole. This whole thing is complete brainwashing 101.

    [–]037_Engineering [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    He also used false equivalence to relate those topics. And attacking WL was stupid and only makes me more interested.

    [–]Grandmabird 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    "Alt-riight"... there's the magic word. Want to discredit something? Just say it's an alt-right thing.

    As I've said elsewhere, if a bunch of people thought children were being abused in my home and/or neighborhood, I would probably allow at least SOME kind of investigation - just to make totally sure that this abuse wasn't happening. I probably wouldn't immediately proclaim "This is fake news! It's a crazy conspiracy from alt-right fascists and deserves ZERO attention. We need to censor any discussion of this dangerous conspiracy!"

    Why the fuck do they care so much about discrediting this story and protecting Podesta and a couple of pizza joints?

    [–]ganooosh 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    ""why the fuck do they care so much about discrediting this story..."" very good point. If it was nothing there wouldn't be such a mass hysteria to cover it, ,especially sloppily like this.

    [–]SkepticalFaceless 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If they wanted to tool the movement they'd do an investigation and turn up nothing ala James Comey. They are still in stage 1 denial. Anger and bargaining next.

    [–]royalstaircase -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They care because people almost literally died the other day when a gunman came into a random-ass pizza joint with a gun and started firing because of shit he read on reddit.

    [–]iamthedrag -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well I think the thing was when the guy brought the assault rifle into the pizzeria to "self-investigate". Especially when most people had just found out about this conspiracy because of that, I think the "movement" loses its steam and justifiably so.

    [–]filmfiend999 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah! They should say it's a Nazi Piece of Shit thing!

    [–]JDman460 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    WHY WOULD A PEDO CONSPIRACY EVER SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA FOR A LATE NIGHT COMEDY SHOW! UNLESS YOU WHERE TRYING TO DISCREDIT IT WITH COMEDY JESUS CHRIST THE HUBRIS OF THESE PEOPLE IS AMAZING

    [–]Horus_Krishna_4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    we need some true heroes to heckle him like 9/11 truthers did to bill maher one time

    [–]HyUp 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Isn't this a form of hypocrisy? I mean he mentions that people tell him how they want the show to go, and then he does a bit like this? Almost like someone told him to.

    It's not like Colbert would honestly come on the show and say ,"You got me. I'm a fraud."

    [–]Sorrybouthat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Not to say he is a good guy, but he did begin by saying he isn't news and you shouldn't believe him, them went into pizzagate. So, I agree with him. I don't believe him as he is satire. Pandering to the money that paid for him.

    [–]SkepticalFaceless 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's still taking money to tend to sheep. That's a moral choice. He could have produced a segment on that topic that created questions and critical thinking in a humorous way, but he didnt.

    Puppets have strings attached. And they dance.

    [–]piles_of_SSRIs 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    "Hacked by the Russians". Proof of that plz.

    [–]ganooosh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    exactly... proving something is false by listing several false pieces of information... makes sense.

    [–]NovaDose 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I agree. The little proof there is is spotty at best and highly circumstantial. Almost sounds like some other conspiracy I've heard paraded about lately...

    [–]ganooosh [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    Can you imagine if there was media blowback at people for suggesting they knew for a fact russia hacked the DNC and more importantly that they actually had the goal of disrupting the election?

    Imagine that... because people are eating that shit up and it's unproven bullshit.

    [–]NovaDose [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Oh yeah I get it. They can bring irrefutable proof or stfu as far as I'm concerned. I think that standard needs to applied liberally to all claims of conspiracy is the point I'm trying to get at.

    edit: as an example you folks have accused multiple, multiple people of being pedophiles, rapists and child murderers with only tenuous evidence. I've asked before about various gaping holes and been accused of being a shill who is protecting child rapists. However, this comes from the same group of people who are convinced the child murders in Newtown never happened, and that it was an elaborate plot by Obama to take our guns (which, newsflash, STILL has not happened). This went so far as people demanding that the parents of dead children exhume their dead children to prove they were, in fact, shot. So I'm protecting child rapists but yall are fighting the good fight trying to dig up imaginary dead kids?

    Right. ok. So yeah, pizzagate might be happening. idk. But when you make claims based solely on circumstantial evidence then shout down descent because it doesn't confirm your selection bias you don't do yourselves any favors.

    [–]ganooosh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    You folks...

    That's the problem with this kind of stuff isn't it? I'm sure some people here could believe they're sacrificing kids to moloch. I'm just here for the show and for interesting news stories that the real news isn't going to cover fairly.

    By all means though, pretend that this is the first claim of such crimes against children like the rest of the people who are doing the same thing. I bet the first people who tried to expose the catholic church were treated horribly and they probably wanted to kill themselves when people wouldn't take them seriously.

    I'm personally waiting for somebody to provide an alternate translation to things like the food code, or pizza related maps on handkerchiefs. People are anxious to know what that actually means.

    The fact taht nobody has offered up an alternative decoding of such things should raise eyebrows. I mean, we're talking about john podesta here who in one of his emails is recommending his lawyer with the encouraging words of " he kept me out of jail ".

    Perhaps Podesta himself should sit down with one of these msm talk shows and explain himself and end the whole thing. Him not doing so raises even more questions.

    [–]dissdigg 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wow that segment smells of desperation.

    [–]rehms 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How art thou fallen from comedy, O Stephen, son of the hilarity!

    How art thou cut down to the ground, That didst cast laughs over the nations!

    [–]donjohn69 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As "Shilly" as a shill could be

    [–]digdog303 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you ever had actual faith in characters like Colbert and Stewart, you weren't paying enough attention.

    [–]Pizzanelli [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Why didn't the MSM focus so much on fake news when Bush was talking about Iraq and 9/11 ? This is getting weird in sense of some of it must be true! If so many people dont want you to hear more about this hole pizzagate

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      [–]394857d -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Isn't the underground tunnels or secret basement an important part to this whole theory though? If there's no secret area in the restaurant where does the trafficking and everything else go on?

      [–]jeff_w24 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Colbert has been very suspect and partisan throughout this year. I'm still waiting for him to call out the Head of CBS for celebrating that Trump has been great for ratings, even if it came at expense of the people.

      [–]beta_white_male 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      [–]NovaDose 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I don't think you understand how large of a pile 10 tons of tomatoes actually is. He's talking about an offsite basement...

      [–]LucyLucero11 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      WHO DO YOU WORK FOR!? JK, you're probably right

      [–]NovaDose [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      I wish I could get paid for pointing out the obvious! lol who knows, maybe in a few years "critical thinker" will be an actual job.

      [–]Horus_Krishna_4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      h set up a strawman then knocked it over

      [–]kijib 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      just imagine how awkward this will be when the truth is revealed

      [–]411011 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'd the day of the rope ever comes, he'll have a early showing.

      [–]LucyLucero11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Oh, that wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it'd be. I mean, the end was probably the most insulting part, but that was really the pot calling the kettle black, IMO.

      Between those willing to question the possibility of terrible crimes being committed to children by powerful, trusted people and those going, "LALALALA FAKE NEWS DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT LALALALALA," the call for maturity seems misplaced.

      Otherwise, that was probably the funniest this guy has been in a while.

      [–]BlackVelvetBandit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      While I don't believe this one, I will say I know it sounds crazy, but I was in Southeast Asian when they busted a human trafficking ring/stop/seller and there kids being held underground and in cages.

      I didn't see them in there, but when they came out that's what they were saying and they brought out what looked to me very large dog crates.

      [–]Benana [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Come on, r/Conspiracy, learn to take a joke. Have a sense of humor about something for once in your lives. All the angry reactions here reveal a lot about the fragility of the conspiratorial mind. If you're gonna be a bunch of delicate little snowflakes about every little thing that pops up to challenge you, then you're deserving of all this mockery.