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[–]Darxe 199 ポイント200 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's a Chinese prank. For the luls

[–]Class_not_swag_girls 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Buy more chinese solar panels tho!

[–]Okichah [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

China controls 65% production of solar panels

China control ~90% of the rare metal production to make solar panels

China uses the most coal on he planet

China dont give a fuck about any other energy source

But how? But why?

Because using human slaves to mine and manufacture shit is cheap. Because not having rights means you can dump waste into rivers and fields and fuck up local environments.

But becoming a world power? Priceless*.

(*at the cost of a whole bunch of human suffering)

[–]Brobi_WanKenobi/pol/itician [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

for the rurs

ftfy

[–]_gyepy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

hahhaha original joke XD👌👌👌👌👌👌🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😆😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[–]yourmomscasserole 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (37子コメント)

What's the big deal? I want Florida to sink into the Atlantic

[–]MengTheBarbarian/fit/izen 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (12子コメント)

The big deal is Floridians will start to migrate. Nobody wants to be the unlucky state to take in Florida refugees.

[–]yourmomscasserole 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't think they will. They'll probably go muddin' until they drown or die from carbon monoxide poisoning. As for the unlucky state...Georgia?

[–]Peap9326al/qa/eda 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Only the northern Floridians. The rest will go back to Cuba.

[–]otio2014 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Implying Cuba hasn't long since submerged by then

[–]Mega_Toastwee/a/boo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Cuba will just keep floating on a bunch of old mattresses.

[–]26julio [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Cuba is mountains, it's not going anywhere.

[–]crochet_masterpiece [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Florida is a containment board, it's the /b or /mlp of America.

[–]MitchConair [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

LUL if you think Florida is at any serious risk from rising sea levels. I bet most over you know nothing of the geomorphology of the state, and while a good portion of downtown Miami, Tampa along with other coastal communities are at risk for minor to moderate inundation this is only a very small fraction of a % of the total landmass of FL. "But what about the millions of people who live in those densely populated" you say? If you have lived here as long as I have, you would know how prepared the state is when it comes to dealing with coastal natural disasters. If the rising flood level threat eventually gets to be too great that it can no longer be ignored, then the state will take the necessary steps to prevent and protect from coastal flooding including building sea walls and artificial barrier islands.

And incase I'm completely full of shit, I live 5 minutes from the beach and am looking forward to my future ocean front property.

[–]Supes_man [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So we just need to make it happen quickly then. Boom.

[–]Brobi_WanKenobi/pol/itician 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (19子コメント)

More interested in that happening to California

[–]prostate-apostate 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (15子コメント)

you do realize california is the 6th largest economy in the world . if it left the value of the dollar would plummet the majority or research and development for most tech companies would disappear so would your favorite sites

[–]CaptainCAPSLOCKED 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Secede already. Your refugees are fucking up everywhere from Texas to Washington

[–]empiricsbitchWacky [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a Texan, I would gladly deport all the Californians to Mexico

[–]iiTryhard 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yea but they're all cuck faggots and Mexicans

[–]prostate-apostate [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

and they are just as american as you , also if you spent have the time you do to hate them and invested it on self improvement you'd be just as valued as they are .

[–]iiTryhard [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm joking anyway, I plan on living in cali when I'm older. I'd rather nuke the east coast anyway

[–]Mushroomfry_throw [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'd rather nuke the east coast anyway

west coast the best coast

[–]Adolphin_Hitler21/pol/itician [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah! You should totally visit one of their raves; I heard they were the hot place to be.

[–]boopaboopa [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Fine with me. We'll recover.

[–]prostate-apostate [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

you wouldn't , most of those companies would just form stronger ties with japan who already have the infrastructure and talent that california has .

[–]bast963 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

most of those companies would just form stronger ties with japan

Be big name office in Commiefornia

Secede happens

"don't worry guys Japan has similar infrastructure"

Work week goes from 40-45 hours to 70+

Everyone quits, office bankrupt

Other than Google, whose employees already work Japanese hours.

[–]yourmomscasserole 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah so the most beautiful and talented portion of the country goes to waste and all that will be left is us huh?

[–]Surfdetective [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Most Pepe fans are 5 year old !kLAN members from Alabama,they will never make if to California.yay.

[–]watanabefleischer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

we grow most of your food, so have fun with that.

[–]crashing_this_thread 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I want to drown as many coastal cities as possible and I go out of my way to waste food and buy products that are made by child laborers.

[–]yourmomscasserole [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Have you heard of gasoline? you're gonna love this!

[–]Dumbass_McGee_/his/panic [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Hey im from florida, i take offense to that

[–]ProNoob95/k/ommando 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Never trust a leaf.

[–]retardcharizard 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Leaves literally benefit the most from the effects of global warming:

  • Their farmable land becomes more valuable.

  • Leaves NEED carbon dioxide to produce glucose, to survive.

IT WAS THE LEAVES ALL ALONG

[–]MooingBee/g/entooman [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Russians also benefit. All that permafrost melts.

[–]remote214 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But their greatest defense, the harsh winter of Mother Russia, goes with it too.

[–]nolram00 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It goes further east, but it will stay so win/win

[–]RobotWantsKitty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And their second largest city sinks, no big deal.

[–]ProNoob95/k/ommando 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fucking leafs.

[–]foreignersforromney [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It was spelt right two times and you still fucked it up. Just leaf.

[–]TheRoyalHunts 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (38子コメント)

I thought people thinking climate change was a myth, were a myth

[–]crashing_this_thread [スコア非表示]  (52子コメント)

Holy shit there is a lot of scientifically illiterate morons in this thread.

The consensus is around and 90-100% and the average is around 97%.

And not just for climate scientist. The entire scientific community agree on this. There is no scientific body that has a dissenting stance on this. There are only a handful of bodies that have chosen a non-committal position.

Now that being said, we all know that scientist are all liberal jews out to destroy the world so we can't trust anyone in the scientific community and we need to get our facts from political vloggers on youtube.

So the fact they all agree just reinforces my belief that they are all filthy libtards. /s

[–]RACE_WAR_NOW/pol/ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Average consensus doesn't make sense, unless its an estimate of the true consensus from a sample.

[–]MitchConair [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Funny how about 90% of scientific polls gave Hilary Clinton around 97% chance to win, how did that turn out?

[–]crashing_this_thread [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They polls showed the numbers they wanted. I expected nothing less from the mainstream media.

[–]DrJohanson [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Checkmate atheists! Polls are shit, science is shit, all is shit, climate change isn't real!

[–]MitchConair [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I'm going for my masters right now in meteorology and I will readily admit that climate change is real and humans are most likely contributing to it (even if it is less than 0.5%). I just don't think it's a big deal that we need to lose our shit and cripple our economy over. If and when climate change gets to problematic to ignore, the free market will dictate how we deal with it.

[–]uptotwentycharacters/lgbt/ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The problem is that the free market ignores externalities. If a business can increase their profits by damaging the environment, they will do so, because it will end up being someone else's responsibility to deal with the problems they create. The free market won't address climate change until it becomes an in-your-face immediate problem, and by then it will likely be too late.

[–]ey_boss 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is a fucking 4chan/leddit but I have to say it, I love when people talk about science and use the word "opinion". A lot of people should kill themselves.

[–]BushyDio/o/ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Its my opinion you cant say its wrong its an opinion!!!1"

[–]Efrajm 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Man I stop shitposting there for a week and they change the whole board theme from underwater basket weaving to some weeaboo bullshit. Welp time to start my own chan.

[–]TocallRetal 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can call it "tardchan"

[–]crowmemer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

implying it wasn't all about Chinese cartoons the week before the basket weaving

Man these newfags...

[–]CzmBzsOqndancatpro 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (23子コメント)

[–]INTJokes 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No continental drifting? 2/10

[–]Smegmalomaniacal [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That'd be great if we actually had data from the years listed.

[–]xkcd_transcriber 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Original Source

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Title: Earth Temperature Timeline

Title-text: [After setting your car on fire] Listen, your car's temperature has changed before.

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[–]literally_xitler [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm not going to deny climate change isn't real or influenced by man but that graph has been debunked. He used a way longer averaging period the Ionger you go back. Like if he would use the same one in the middle ages as in present age there would be a swing as large.

Say you take the average temperature over the last 10.000 years, and the temperature of tomorrow and it's 5 degrees hotter, then predict its gonna be 200 degrees centigrade by 2017.

[–]official_Bondvillain -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

20000 years is nothing in global time No shit it has gotten warmer since the ice age

[–]Rice__cube 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you actually this fucking retarded

[–]safcx22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No he's only pretending, he sure fooled you

[–]DrWhiskeydick/r(9k)/obot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's actually roughly 3 times more than the earth has existed for tbh

[–]Itsbrokenalready 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The interesting bit is at the bottom of the image.

[–]Roxxorsmash/tg/ 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's tough to get to the bottom if you can't read.

[–]saltytrey 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He skipped that part.

[–]Raging_bull_54 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It must be nice to be as retarded as you. It must be like chasing butterflies in a meadow all day.

[–]VestigialPseudogene [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Man what I'd pay to be as fucking retarded as you. :/

[–]johnnight 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's actually a reverse-conspiracy by the The Leafs who want to make Canada warm again.

[–]Herpderpherpherp 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (26子コメント)

science isn't democratic

[–]CurtissArmpitts 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (25子コメント)

In this case, it's a pseudoscience being used as a political tool. There was a correct way to handle climate change, and the path chosen was not it.

[–]BushyDio/o/ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That guy is from Alberta. 100%.

[–]badasspiggy 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But he got dubs

[–]big_sage_owl 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The interesting bit is at the bottom if you can't read.

[–]VarysIsAMermaid69 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Leaf go home Snow wall when

[–]theonewhocucks [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

leaf is the one agreeing with trump build wall that keeps the trump Canadian and doesn't remove the American liberal

What board am I on?

[–]Tommy2255 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How is the idea that pumping shit into the atmosphere might affect the chemical composition of the atmosphere even slightly surprising? It's not like humans haven't altered the planet on a fairly large scale before.

[–]ApproachingZeromars/hm/ellow 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Decades

We have climate data going back millions of years that's how we know this isn't natural, there has been a natural warning in the past, but nothing on the scale.

[–]reopye_FePlease make fun of me 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do those millions of years of data have the granularity to show individual peaks and troughs in temperature?

How frequent are the data points? Every year? Hundred years? Thousand years?

[–]Fobby12308 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The best way to measure this is via polar ice cores which trap gases from previous years, their consistency also indicating how warm it was. These be measured back to ~800,000 years.

By the recorded results, CO2 and CH4 levels are higher than ever by a longshot. Its also noticable that the higher temp (which peaks every 100,000 years) has stayed constant, rather than spiking back downwards like it always has.

So yes, we are in a naturally warmer period, but by raising greenhouse gas levels, the heat has stayed constant and even risen slightly where it definitely should not, therefore showing our contribution to climate change.

http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/ - heres the link fam just check out the graph.

[–]SWAGmoosefa/tg/uy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We have climate data going back millions of years

Data that has been collected over decades, I think you misread

[–]crashing_this_thread 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We've collected for decades, but the climate has been recorded for millions of years by nature. Old ice is excellent for figuring out the composition of the atmosphere millions of years ago.

We have more specific data from newer time, but don't underestimate the data we have gathered from ice and soil.

[–]-ferrocactus- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

do you think that finding dinosaur fossils in the last few decades means that dinosaurs existed 30 years ago?

[–]highenergysanders 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm supposed to believe sciencemen? They can't even explain gravity. If it's real then how come the ocean doesn't just drip off the planet?

Also it's winter so please explain that if the globe is supposed to be warm.

[–]skylar__wee/a/boo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Stupid science bitches couldn't even solve global warming.

[–]rslongboarder [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

t. guy who doesn't understand reality

[–]theonewhocucks [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I'm sure the guy who doesn't think gravity exists isn't doing it for lels

[–]highenergysanders [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Nope. I'm not doing it for the lels. Gravity us a myth scientists made up because they refuse to accept that it's invisible angels are holding us on the ground.

[–]bs22343 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would I trust someone who calls a southeast Russian yak husbandry forum an "anime forum?" I'm with leaf

[–]HustlerThug/fit/ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you actually have to be a legit moron to think that global warming/climate change is not real. reading this thread is rage-inducing.

[–]thomasolvc1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If a solution truly is viable, then it will mostly affect shitty third world countries.

[–]Newengland22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This article outlines a large community of people who would be hurt.

[–]RateMyCommentPlease [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ill take the bait.

I studied environmental governance in university. (Worthless degree now) since Harper gutted environmentalists in Canada like 5 years back. Anyways we had two types of courses. Human geography and physical topography. Then in fourth year we connected the two. Pretty interesting honestly.

Anyways, I noticed a trend. Both of these classes professors admitted there global warming but the human geography always said its the fault of humans while the other said its the fault of humans and the natural state of the world. (We are in the ending stages of a mini ice age right now). The human geographers seem like they want to make their education validified since they know it's a bullshit degree.

I actually remember one time when the physical geologist mentioned that it's mainly the natural state of the world, he asked a class of 100 people to argue their point that it's the other way around. They did and he politely argued his stance and let the other person argue his.

On the other hand, in the human geography class one student questioned how much of the temperature change was human and physical and the professor cut him down immediately. Told him he's wrong and carried on.

[–]NSFWIssue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck off Reddit version of 4chan

[–]dxlj 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

racist section

[–]Brobi_WanKenobi/pol/itician -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (18子コメント)

The consensus of 98% of climate scientists who literally only have a job and a meaning to their existence if they continue to get funding for climate related studies to confirm that climate change is happening

[–]ThatPersonGu 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

versus claims by politicians who are actively getting millions from the only people on the planet who would be hurt by legislation against climate change

[–]GIANTintheNIGHT/wg/eean 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not educated on the subject enough to have an opinion one way or another, but rich people aren't the only people who would be hurt. We already pay a lot more for refrigerant and other products which had cheaper alternatives that were deemed to have an impact on global warming. Point taken, though.

[–]theonewhocucks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not really - they could just complete the study and find out that it's not happening. They wouldn't stop getting funding because there's so much environment shit to research

[–]its_the_perfect_name [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

1) Stop being stupid

2) What if I told you that climate science would exist regardless of whether or not climate change was currently happening simply because we don't actually fully understand all aspects of climate systems? There's always more to study. The nature of popular research would change but it's not like the entire field would simply evaporate. Additionally, these people are not exactly raking in cash. Nobody goes into climate science to become wealthy.

There doesn't need to be some cataclysmic shift in the state of the world in order for a given scientific field to be funded. It helps, sure, but other natural sciences get plenty of funding without resorting to inventing apocalyptic stories. Don't be a delusional tard.

[–]Magnifiscent/pol/itician 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (12子コメント)

The reported consensus of some number of people (far less than 98%) who claim to be scientists, but who have a large financial interest in promoting anthropogenic climate change by using unrealistic mathematical models, suspect data, and fallacious hypotheses.

[–]Cinnamon_Boots 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Give some specific references to those faulty models

[–]Magnifiscent/pol/itician 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This article outlines a large number of failed predictions. I'd also direct you to this website which is full of great articles and is referenced in the first article I linked.

You'll have to delve much deeper into published journals than I'm willing to go if you want to find the actual names for the models that the CAGW scientists use. For my part, I consider the models to be flawed/faulty/shit when the predictions produced by those models fail over and over and over again.

As far as faulty data goes, here's a website that detailed the efforts of a group to survey the USHCN surface stations that are being used to measure temperature. As of their latest post 1007 of the 1221 stations have been examined and 70.2% were found to have error ranges of greater than or equal to 2 degrees C. When your measuring tool can only get you to the nearest 2 degrees, you can't make statements about anything smaller than that. This is why scientific figures are taught to every high school student in my state. It's fundamental. It's basic.

The only reason any of this passes peer review is that there is such a large community of people who make money in the $360 billion-per-year Global Warming industry. It's got all the scientific rigour of a middle-school science project. Even as an undergrad, if I had submitted a research proposal that was built on top of a logical fallacy (causation/correlation) and then had this much bias built into the experimental method, I'd have been laughed at. To say nothing of the suspect data, statistical "massaging", and ignoring data that disagrees with your model.

If you want more detailed information than that, feel free to investigate on your own.

I'll leave you with this: Science is about asking questions. Good scientists question everything, especially their own conclusions. When you hear scientists say something like "the debate is over" or "the science is settled", you should be very VERY alarmed. The only scientist that can't stand to have their methods, data, and results questioned are the ones that know they did something wrong.

[–]DrWhiskeydick/r(9k)/obot [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

So if you were presented with a not flawed, not suspect study using realistic mathematical models, you'd have no choice but to change your mind?

[–]Magnifiscent/pol/itician [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Would I discount all previous evidence and abandon my skepticism based on a single positive result? No. That's not how that works. Any scientist that does that is asking for trouble.

For starters, give me mutually supporting, reproducible results based on multiple studies using clear and rigorous experimental methodology that has passed honest peer-review.

At that point we can start having the conversation you have when you've got more than one hypothesis which appears valid.

After that we can ask ourselves what might be going on that we haven't accounted for, seen, or measured yet which might actually be influencing our results without us knowing.

And then we can continue to question our conclusions while applying them to our experimental methodology to see if those conclusions actually hold up when you build on them.

[–]its_the_perfect_name [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Wow, yea I'm sure that you're the first brilliant mind to think about applying the scientific method to this topic. You should become a climate scientist.

[–]Magnifiscent/pol/itician [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

When did I claim to be the first? I was asked about my thought process and I gave an answer. Wipe the cum out of your eyes, faggot.

[–]its_the_perfect_name [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

You're questioning the accuracy of the scientific establishment's position on climate science and operating under the erroneous assumption that your stupid musings are enlightened and not just very basic questions that have already been asked and answered by thousands of scientists in their climate-change related research. You clearly think you're smart and have something worthwhile to offer in this discussion.

You haven't even made an effort to seek out any actual research papers or quality information because you're asking other people to provide you with multiple pieces of information which already exist.

You asked for multiple studies which corroborate one another and also for competing theories...do you actually think that there's just a single study that says, "yep, climate's changing alright", or that competing theories have never existed in the history of this field? Competing theories only flourish when the existing dominant theory is not actually sufficient to describe the body of evidence that exists.

There's a reason that nobody still believes that disease is caused by an imbalance of your humors or that aether is the physical medium that light travels through. Those theories were wrong and they were superseded by more modern theories which actually fit the observations. You could absolutely go out of your way to try to invent a new theory which is able to explain climate change, but...why is that a requirement in your mind? The topic is already very, very well understood and there is nobody who disagrees with the current theory.

On top of the fact that you don't understand the previous concepts you legitimately asked whether it's possible that the existence of confounding variables has been completely overlooked. Do you actually believe that these things aren't constantly being analyzed by the scientists doing this work? That's one of the first things that you learn in undergraduate science classes, Jesus. Nearly every paper has a section where these possibilities are analyzed and potential sources of error are discussed.

Your arrogance is fucking breathtaking and it only just outshines your ignorance.

[–]Magnifiscent/pol/itician [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Nice strawman. Really set it up and knocked it down. You've really swayed me with you clever rhetoric.