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French RT is Covering Pizzagate...They are Asking for Help to Spread their Coverage. They Tie it to Breitbart's Tweets. (francais.rt.com)

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[–]Polaris80537 158 ポイント159 ポイント  (33子コメント)

Reddit could have gotten good press about helping bring this down but instead it'll forever be known as a pedophile enabler website.

[–]spodathumper 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Time to migrate, anybody spent much time on Voat? Will that work or do we need a new site all together? (bored software developer asking)

[–]glugglug 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

yes. In terms of the type of content it gets, Voat is like Reddit from 2011-2012, before they censorship started going crazy.

The main downside of Voat, IMO is the lack of a good mobile app, which I think might be partly a side effect of the site API not being so concrete yet.

[–]dragespir 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fear not!! I am working on one as speak!!!

[–]ivanbeek 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Need a fully encrypted block chain based social media or messaging system. Something where your bitcoin wallet is your id.

Just shit ideas from someone desperate for a digital mass migration soon.

We need a safe haven so fucking badly.

[–]oracleofnonsense 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes. Facebook, Google, etc are due to be replaced.

In fact, I think the entire "Internet" structure is dated. The very idea that Google, Facebook, etc are getting rich from "our" information boggles my mind. WHERE IS MY CUT?

I predict the next version of social media will be self hosted/controlled. We're all carrying around enough spare compute power in our pockets to host our own "Facebook/MySpace".

[–]boxerman81 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your cut is all the free shit they have. Good luck getting your device in your pocket to program itself

[–]JuicyLeaks 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like steemit.com ?

[–]alexdrac 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (6子コメント)

we need a place that will attract a significant number of "normies".

voat is a circlejerk unfortunately because it did not grow organically .

[–]Katastic_Voyage 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I visit on a occasion. There are still plenty of normal people posting.

The thing they need most is just more normal people going there to drown out the racists. (And they're NOT all racists.) As we know, tons of Reddit's quality comes from the quantity of diverse views. The reason Voat doesn't have more... is because we're not posting there.

I'm doing my part. I started a heatsink porn verse.

http://voat.co/v/heatsinkporn

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https://voat.co/v/announcements/1436243

Oh shit, in the last 7 days, they had so many new users (from Reddit, no doubt! Thanks spez!) that they can't keep the lights on without moving to make more money.

During the past 24 hours we have witnessed a large influx of new users. Current stats show that Voat has been visited by 168,213 people in the last 24 hours alone, making 9,571,200 requests and burning through 117 GB of bandwidth. We are currently running at 300% our normal volume.

If you can kick them some funds, please do. Even if you don't like Voat... democracy and choice is a good thing. So funding for them is funding for internet discussion as a whole. And anything that puts pressure on the incumbent (Reddit) to perform better, is a good thing.

[–]democracystrikesback 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The thing they need most is just more normal people going there to drown out the racists.

lolz

[–]HarryParatesties 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shit, you know the place is good because the racists are there. They keep the place legit.

[–]democracystrikesback 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

safe space = controlled opposition

[–]HarryParatesties 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rustling jimmies is the only way....

[–]Im_Justin_Cider 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ive said this a billion times already, we need a blockchain based conspiracy reddit/wikipedia-like system. therefore all the power is decentralised and the data is automatically backed up by everyone and uncorruptable.

It should be easy to view by anyone, but perhaps only miners can contribute. This way, newbies dont clog up the blockchain with reposts or low quality ideas, and there is an incentive to mine.

[–]DrHerbotico 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That doesn't sound like it could be abused by rich people with access to heavy duty computing power /s

[–]Im_Justin_Cider 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not any more than the current paradigm of website hosting. First you would need to overcome at least 51% of the computational power. And we could even hook it into or just use the Bitcoin blockchain (but then edits would have to be monetary based micro-transactions - a small price for total security). Good luck overcoming the combined power of Bitcoin! And then even still, all you could do with the power is make a top layer edit. There'll be endless backups all over the world. As soon as a malicious attack is detected, we fork around the problem.

[–]The_Bohemian_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would say no. Voat initially had a fair number of the reddit mods from /r/pizzagate on the team and then they ousted all of them.

Voat is also another Y Combinator project and probably an intentional platform to push unfavorables into when they are no longer welcome on reddit - al la pizzagate.

[–]PM_MEMONEYYY 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Everytime I go over there, where the username is, it's says [deleted] for everyone but their comment still remains. I got a bad vibe from it so I haven't been back...Idk what's up with that place. Does anybody know if it's legit or not?

[–]UnfortunateDonut 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was infiltrated by shills/crackpots making unfounded claims and downvoting every subsequent investigation

[–]PM_MEMONEYYY 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Does actual discussion go on there tho?

[–]Thorumar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their pizzagate "subverse" is pretty solid. I prefer the lack of censorship, even if you see some crazy and/or racist stuff come up occasionally

[–]UnfortunateDonut 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah there's research thats posted to voat that doesnt seem to be reposted to ATS/ect

[–]Ibespwn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you using the app, boats? They recently introduced a new API and broke functionality that apps were relying on.

[–]JigabooFriday 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Does it really matter what Reddit is "known" as though? Who cares what anyone labels it. I've never heard anyone say "ew you go on Reddit? What are you a pedohpile??"

I've heard that about 4chan though, lol.

As long as it remains a hub (to some extent) to spread a message if need be, then I could care less what others think of it.

Also, why would Reddit be known as such? Maybe I missed something?

[–]SaturnIsFlat 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Reddit had insane amounts of child porn before the media covered it. Do you not remember jailbait and the thousands of other disgusting subreddits that were banned? This place was way worse with child porn than 4chan ever got.

[–]JigabooFriday 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly no, I remember hearing they were banned but I thought they were more of a place for those types of people to talk about the creepy shit they were into.

I had no idea it was actually hosted.

TIL

[–]SaturnIsFlat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well it was aggregated. Just like all other content on reddit it was linked to other sources. But still pretty fucked up

[–]tito333 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or the CEO will be known as the guy that is still alive. They killed Breitbart, they'll kill Spez.

[–]tbaybu 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There would be no press left

[–]sonofmo -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why not try to figure out a way to fix it instead of abandoning ship?

[–]chickyrogue 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (0子コメント)

perfect it shows the premise of why they murdered him with a heart attack [orange one!]

[–]ikilledtupac 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And BBC has a hit piece on it today. As usual, they dont address the tweets at all

[–]R3dTim 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit is a pedophile-enabler site.

[–]MessianicJuice 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (9子コメント)

French RT is trying to get the French to hate the establishment and elect Le Pen. I'd take French RT with a heavy serving of salt.

[–]afidak 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (5子コメント)

French RT is trying to get the French to hate the establishment and elect Le Pen. I'd take French RT with a heavy serving of salt.

The same amount of salt I will take your comment with.

[–]Theres_A_FAP_4_That 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"These comments are making me thirsty."

[–]mayan33 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The reddit as you know it ceases to exist!

You see, right now, we have censorship-reddit BUT there is also the free speech, independent-reddit you knew and loved. Funny Reddit, AskReddit, WTF reddit, Shill Reddit... Secret Santa Reddit!

OH! I love that Reddit.

Me too!

But it's dying Redditors!

You see, if Censorship-Reddit walks through that browser, HE WILL KILL INDEPENDENT REDDIT!!

A reddit divided amongst itself cannot stand

[–]ivanbeek 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's enough salt to go round boys.

[–]RDGIV 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The French are the original "hate the establishment" people. Good on them.

[–]KobilaSuzi 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

#BlameItOnRussia

[–]Kodo0 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm apolitical. I just want to take the pedos down

[–]thebabyseagull 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like a the Brietbart angle has awoken a few journalists to the saga .

Maybe they fear they could be next if they do their jobs well enough.

[–]babybantick 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Has anyone got a link for Pizza gate for newbies? I keep seeing it pop up all over the place and don't know where to begin.

[–]Fuh-qo5 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Search #pizzagate in /r/conspiracy.

Some guy made a really good breakdown with links and pictures. It should be right up top.

When you get done w that, read up on the Franklin investigation and tell me they aren't the same damn thing

Edit: http://archive.is/LBAIN

That's what I was looking for

http://altereddimensions.net/2016/the-franklin-child-abuse-scandal-potential-boys-town-pedophile-cover-up-child-prostitution-ring

That is the most comprehensive I could find on the Franklin Investigation.

All evidence alludes to this being a bi-partisan, international issue involving multiple governments.

[–]ivanbeek 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've never thought to search subs.... Palm... Meets... Face. FML.

This is like when I found ctrl a on iTunes as a kid all over again.

So much time wasted using shift and directions. I thought I was tech savvy now.

This is big.

[–]Fuh-qo5 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's gonna be YUGE!

pizzagate explained if you didn't already know. Frightening read. Well documented.

http://archive.is/LBAIN

[–]ChulaK 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A simple introduction here. Great read.

[–]babybantick 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought this was a good read. Why downvotes?

[–]CheneyIsALizard 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Conspiracy of Silence: https://youtu.be/QFWLLU7S4SE

[–]fugrat 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (11子コメント)

RT, Breitbart the crux of unbiased, sane and factual news reporting. You better believe!

[–]thetompain 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

At this point, you take the truth where you can get it. Every outlet is a little slimy. You have to take info from a bunch of sources and draw your own conclusions.

[–]dont_suicide_me 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Finally someone gets it right. This shit happens on both sides and always has. Don't go accepting sensationalists headlines as fact and we will all be just fine.

[–]fugrat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You talking about truth on a pizzagate related post... U foken wot m9?!?

[–]wheelinganddealing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This right here. We take the truth when we can get it.

[–]KingJames19 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why you have to stick to history when dealing with pizzagate. Without a doubt there is a pedo ring within our government. We need to focus on newspaper archives of decades past like the Gacy case and the Franklin coverup. News today is pure propaganda, Reddit included. Stay focused on what we know is true and documented

[–]musicmaker 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The truth is the truth, wherever you happen to find it. I look at all news reports with a strongly discerning eye. RT is good at telling the truth about Western society. Not so good at telling the truth about Russia. Western corporate owned media is good at telling the truth about Russia. Not so good at telling the truth about corporate owned America. What's your point? Oh, and Breitbart? The one thing it seems he was good at telling the truth about is John Podesta.

[–]scaldingramen 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

RT's political motivations don't stop just because it's not Russian based. Their reporting on the Baltics makes it seem like the Kremlin is besieged on all sides. Russia stands to gain immensely if NATO dissolves or if EU sanctions are lifted - and a divided world helps this. Same is likely true of CNN's foreign reporting, but I'll take their bias (liberal commentators with a myopic worldview) over RT- who will straight out lie to benefit Putin's regime.

[–]musicmaker -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did you even read my comment? Yes RT is politically motivated. So is CNN. Your mentioning of the possibility that NATO might dissolve shows the paranoia instilled in you by Western media. And by the way, Russia is besieged by NATO. Reagan agreed never to put ballistic missiles next to Russia. There are now nuclear ballistic missiles on Russia's doorstep. When Russia attempted to put nuclear missiles in Cuba, America was ready to start World War III over it. You are brainwashed.

[–]scaldingramen 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Way to win friends and converts with your tone there bucko :)

Yes, it's hypocritical of the US to have balked at the Cuban missiles when we had nukes pointed at Moscow for years.

But Putin has acted with a singular focus of perpetuating his administration with no regard for Russian lives or wellbeing.

We won't agree here, but what the hell

Medvedev and NATO found areas of mutual cooperation. I understand why Russians shouldn't trust an institution that was inherently anti-USSR, but relations were warming - so NATO and Russia are not inherently incompatible.

However, NATO is a major roadblock for Putin's agenda . He has frequently turned to foreign conflict as a way to alleviate domestic concerns. And it works.

Sure, maybe it's all propaganda that his administration is engaged in crony capitalism to a degree that puts the US to shame, that he kills political dissidents blocks from the Kremlin, that most advanced nuclear missiles in the world are Russian owned iskander missiles pointed at central Europe, etc.

I don't want to start World War III by any means. But Putins actions have shown that he'll do anything to preserve his power - and preserving his power is best obtained by dividing his enemies.

Edit: since this was about western media - yes, western media is consolidated under a few billionaires, to some degree. But I'd argue that while US govt can influence media, Russia can control it directly. It's a false equivalence issue

[–]musicmaker 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I apologize for the tone. I grow tired of having media disinformation cited as fact in debate. As true as it is that Putin works very hard at retaining his power, I have come to realize that it is nothing compared to the real oligarchs of the world and what they do to retain theirs. There is a handful of billionaires who control all of the "free world". This is all a game to them. They stop at nothing to sap as much wealth from you and I as possible, all the while turning our attention toward 'that evil Putin'. The powers that be, who control our society, instigated an 'overthrow' in Ukraine. They well understood that Putin would never let go of Russia's naval base in Crimea. It would be like the US relinquishing Diego Garcia. It would never happen. Putin had ceded Crimea to Ukraine when they were close allies but never intended to ever let go of control over the naval base. So when tptb took control of Ukraine, Putin did exactly what they knew he would do and kept control of Crimea. Then the media, owned by this cabal, portrayed the evil Putin as annexing another country. When I see someone such as yourself buying into the narrative that Putin is somehow trying to dismantle NATO, I cringe. There is an odor to that story that I just cannot stomach.

[–]scaldingramen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No worries! Everybody's tense, appreciate the response.

There were a few good articles talking about life among those "post-national" elites - individuals who were so wealthy they had no allegiance and instead were just jet setters who went from country to country, only interested in preserving their wealth and power.

That said, Putin and many of his associates were implicated as being part of that crowd in the Panama papers. If there are individuals who siphon off wealth for themselves, I count him among them.

Honestly, it reminds me of the US civil war - the confederacy here was out of cash and needed credit to win. In the end, the famous banker Rothschild made the decision that it wasn't worth backing. A financiers decision to opt out of the war ended one of the last chances of the rebels - and I'm sure that wasn't the last time where money influenced military matters.

But those decisions are why I'm not sure about your claim that those same elites are causing strife between Putin and the west. Global elites would generally oppose nationalism because it threatens the world order - which could upend their wealth and place. And isolating one of the worlds largest economies makes no sense - why not target someone where there is less of an economic penalty?

whether or not Putin is actively trying to dismantle NATO, a weaker EU would break Russian sanctions, and a weaker NATO would mean an ability to project a sphere of influence more easily. Russia gets a majority of its revenue from oil operations, and the current freeze on new infrastructure projects like Nord Stream are killing them. There is a lot to gain.

I'll have to read more about the history of Crimea and the warm water port though. Not an expert by any means. Thanks for the info

[–]wetmonkeyfarts 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (49子コメント)

rt is Russian propaganda

[–]inkandpaperguy 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (47子コメント)

CNN is American propaganda. What's your point?

[–]wetmonkeyfarts -20 ポイント-19 ポイント  (46子コメント)

No, its not. It's not controlled by the government, Putin has control of RT. That no one can see what RT does is amazing to me

[–]musicmaker 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (5子コメント)

EVERYONE sees what RT is doing. They do a good job of telling the truth about the West. Only a fool would use RT as a source for info about Russia. What's amazing to me is that you do not understand how corrupt corporate owned media is. CNN is a propaganda tool for the elite few billionaires that control Western society. As is every corporately owned mainstream media outlet. You believe only governments spout propaganda. You are very naive indeed.

[–]ericfatty 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS. I tell so many people this line of thinking because it makes 100% sense. If you want some great, critical coverage of the West and the USA in general, then RT is a great source of news for that.

Now, if you want critical news on Russia, then RT definitely isn't the best source for that. You could probably use any Western media source for news on Russia. You have to always take news with a grain of salt but there is a difference between propaganda and fake news.

[–]4esop -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

All news sources are giving us information. You just have to understand the sources very well to parse it. For example, if RT is saying something about Russia then you know that they are interested in having you believe that, regardless of the veracity there is info to be had. If they are saying something about the US, you can often assume that it's a twist of the facts designed to skew world perception of America negatively. Multiple sources with different motives is a good way to know your info is more solid as well. Often you can take just the factual statements from stories written from multiple sides in a conflict and gain a more accurate picture than what is given by either side alone.

[–]istalkezreddit 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rothschild owns the media, he fucking owns reuters ffs.

[–]doppelgaber 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

News flash, America is not always the good guy. Sorry if that conflicts with your world view but it doesn't mean negative press about the US is "twisted"

Much of the world hates us for good reason.

[–]4esop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nor is it always the bad guy, which is why you should be suspicious of this latest narrative.

[–]RDGIV 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you miss that CNN and NYT were being spoonfed content to publish by the DNC? What makes you think they aren't receiving more propaganda? Notice that they aren't covering standing rock? Yeah I thought so

[–]crystalblu26 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Ok dude, cnn isn't controlled by the government. Keep telling yourself that. Be a good little person and don't think for yourself.

[–]4esop 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (9子コメント)

CNN is controlled by people that heavily influence the gov't. There is a difference.

[–]virgojeep 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. More levels of mediation.. That's the difference. At least the Russians know it's the government manipulating the news. In the US the manipulators are more nefarious and into sick shit like pedophilia so they dictate from behind a curtain where they hope people can't see them.

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    [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Removed, warning for rule 10.

    [–]4esop -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Between direct control and influence? I used the button on ya btw. Stop making shill accusations.

    [–]GoyBoyAdvanced -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    That still doesn't explain the difference. I'll stop when you stop.

    [–]4esop -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Stop what? Direct control is more heavy-handed (less likely to see public dissent due to more severe threat to the journalists) and influence often has competitors. I'd love to know what you think dude. Please share.

    [–]GoyBoyAdvanced 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Do you have any examples, cause you just described the state of the US.

    [–]high-valyrian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    But when those people are lobbyists and campaign donator, those lines become very thin indeed.

    [–]4esop -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    O I'm sure it's corrupt as fuck. I just bet there's less of a chance of you disappearing at CNN than RT, which means less control over civil dissent.

    [–]virgojeep 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The government doesn't run the united States... Corporations do and that's who runs the media. That's how you know who's in control.

    [–]wetmonkeyfarts -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Its not. Liking a candidate and doing everything in your power to get that candidate elected is not being controlled by the government, that's liking a candidate. Since I KNOW reporters have quit RT because of the government control. So where is your reason for thinking CNN is controlled by the government?

    [–]NotallPepe 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Because the sitting political party has the ability to approve/deny stories and shape coverage. That's control....

    [–]anonermus 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That party also has the influence of dictating to the media where and who they should oversample in their polls. It's fucking infuriating to me that after the election all the media coverage was questioning how the result was missed in the polls. Motherfuckers you actively participated in rigging the polls that's why.

    [–]dcsauce 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    People have quit CNN too for the exact same reason. Did some research and I stand corrected it was MSNBC.

    [–]fringetheories 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Every American MSM organization is controlled by the government. The CIA pens their narratives. All you need to do in order to discover this is google one of their current buzz words and wow.. would you look at that... the same article on every MSM site all worded slightly differently.. almost as if it was pre-written

    [–]wetmonkeyfarts 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    wow I guess this is why no one should ever post in this subreddit, this is literally the most crazy I have ever seen on the web. Seriously how do you live life thinking all this nonsense?

    [–]fringetheories 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    How do you live your life thinking CNN is telling you the truth about anything? I bet you're still brainwashed into thinking Sandy Hook was real and that 9/11 was done by big spoopy "terrorists" as well?

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      [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Removed, warning for rule 10.

      [–]fringetheories 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes I am a big scary troll, trolling everyone by telling them the MSM is government controlled.. you got it

      [–]RussianLiberal -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      I bet you're still brainwashed into thinking Sandy Hook was real

      All of those claims were debunked, were they not? Quite thoroughly, might I add.

      Such conspiracy theories exist here in Russia too. When we had the apartment bombings a while back, they were blamed on an FSB false flag, but on closer examination, all the claims were wrong.

      [–]fringetheories 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      They were not debunked. If you've ever seen something that claims to "debunk" Sandy Hook, you're looking at brainwash.

      Take a look at only the facts of Sandy Hook and decide for yourself.

      [–]RussianLiberal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      If you are going to link me a giant video of unfounded claims, then I will link multiple massive debunkings:

      http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.ca/2014/07/sandy-hook-hoax-claims-debunked.html

      https://www.metabunk.org/sandy-hook.f24/

      [–]fringetheories 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Yeah okay buddy. Keep that head buried in the sand and keep on believing everything the government tells you, they're definitely incapable of lying to push an agenda and absolutely looking out for your best interests at all times.

      [–]Kodo0 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Nobody told me anything. I picked the subject wrote it and they published it. End of story. Yes RT if funded by the Kremlin. But the BBC is funded by Downing street. And CNN has shareholders. Welcome to the world.

      [–]inkandpaperguy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      One word ... Lobbyists

      [–]75962410687 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This pizza gate thing is only believed by the mentally deficient people who fall for 4chan pranks, but CNN doesn't need to be directly controlled by the government to be government propaganda. They just need to exclusively hire people who will perpetuate the narrative that they think government officials want to be perpetuated.

      [–]thetompain -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      PBS is American propaganda. Literally every country has "state news" that is funded/controlled by the government. If you don't think funding means control, you are delusional.

      Also, the CIA has offices in most of the major media companies.

      [–]4esop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Trying to figure out what the full implication is here. Whose interest is the CIA working in?

      [–]fringetheories 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      CIA is working in the interest of perpetual war

      [–]thetompain 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Generally their own. The have used journalists for a long time to spread misinformation and use them to spy in foreign countries.

      Here is some historical perspective. http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

      There is less information available about current activities for obvious reason, but many prominent media figures have CIA ties (Anderson Cooper interned for them).

      The military industrial complex owns the media. Here is one time they were busted. If you think they stopped, I have a bridge to sell you.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_(United_States)

      In 2000, it came to light that soldiers from the 4th Psychological Operations Group had been interning at the American news networks Cable News Network (CNN) and National Public Radio (NPR) in the late 1990s. The program was an attempt to provide its PSYOP personnel with the expertise developed by the private sector under its "Training with Industry" program. The program caused concern about the influence these soldiers might have on American news and the programs were terminated.

      [–]RussianLiberal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Actually, as a Russian who reads both Western and Russian MSM, I think NPR and PBS are the best Western news sources out there. Not perfect, but far better and more intellectual than FOX or MSNBC. Especially PBS Frontline, I love watching that.

      [–]thetompain 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I will agree that they are slightly more interested in balance than the cable networks, but they are still garbage. Television news is horrible as a whole, due to the fact that all the channels are owned by multinational conglomerates if they aren't state controlled.

      NPR and PBS are decent for non-political topics, but their political coverage presents the two party system version of reality. They won't cover anything that doesn't fit the narrative. They are generally just pro-status quo propaganda and will occasionally do a hit piece on someone if everyone already knows they are doing something wrong.

      Don't forget that PBS/NPR/Frontline all have huge corporate donors that they refuse to report anything negative about.

      [–]RussianLiberal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah, they have a slight liberal bias. But I meant more in terms of foreign policy and criticism of it.

      [–]Theres_A_FAP_4_That 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's still better than the nothing we've got here mainstream.

      [–]spodathumper 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      So clone reddit, set it loose and hope for the best? I'm on the verge of just going back to IRCs.

      [–]SpaceshotX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      The Russians to the rescue, again. I'm beginning to like the Ruskies a lot.

      [–]RussianLiberal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Hehe, thanks. But to be 100% honest, our government + RT lie too. Remember MH17?

      [–]SpaceshotX 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes, I think the common theme is corrupt officials in our governments. We need to purge all the corrupt ones, with shock and awe.

      [–]stophamertime -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ah, the voice of the Kremlin.