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[–]UnAmusedCynic 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Really good movie!

[–]helpmesleep666 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Almost looks photoshoped.. really cool.

[–]Bannimon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Looks like they did something to his right arm and his face.

[–]iScreme -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was holding a big slurpee cup with a straw leading into his mouth. Probably full of vodka.

[–]Snarfler 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just saw Hacksaw Ridge. If Hollywood would have forgiven Mel Gibson years ago we could have had more of his movies. Hollywood forgives rapists and wife beaters seconds after they rape children or beat women, but talk bad about the Jews and you're done.

Look at the man's movies. Think about if we got Hacksaw Ridge 5 years ago and what masterpiece we would be getting today.

Suffice to say I love Mel Gibson movies, even if I don't agree with his racism/antisemitism.

[–]firo_sephfiro [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Mel Gibson hadn't gone full pariah after the anti Semitic remark, he loss some work but he wasn't completely shunned from Hollywood yet. It was when his ex Oksana released (illegally) recorded tapes of him on the phone screaming about how he hopes she gets "raped by a pack of n***ers" that pretty much put a nail in his career's coffin for a decade. I'm honestly glad he's back though and by everything I've heard about him I don't think he is sincerely prejudiced, just someone with a severe anger problem who has a habit of saying the meanest ugliest things possible while enraged.

[–]Magnon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I feel like not many people truly have experienced rage like that, cause that seems pretty normal. People do crazy shit when they're enraged, like stab someone 40 times. Yeah it's not forgivable but it's also not that unusual either.

[–]headzoo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It makes me wonder though, if Mel's ostracism from Hollywood, actually fueled his creativity. People tend to work and fight harder when they're "against" something, or have something to prove.

[–]Mendozacheers 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

wait, is that a... cowboy straw hat?

[–]CountChoculahh 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (50子コメント)

As much as I hate Mel Gibson, Apocalypto was dope.

[–]harleyeaston 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You have to hand it to a director that doesn't ask his actor's to do anything that he's not prepared to do himself.

[–]Wrestling_Genius 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (17子コメント)

I don't personally know him so i can't hate him. He makes amazing movies and has said mean shitty things when he drinks. There are a massive population of people on the planet that are the exact same way.

[–]Keselo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Many people the exact same way? I know literally no one who makes amazing movies (or any movies, really), even if I do know some bad drunks.

[–]Wrestling_Genius -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You haven't met very many people then.

[–]Keselo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or just not the right people.

[–]Wrestling_Genius 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, there are more than you can believe. It's a cesspool out there.

[–]Mikeydoes 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

A lot of stuff he touches is gold. Don't hate on him too much because of his beliefs and that he has acted crazy. Just enjoy the stuff he puts out because it is usually really good - like this movie.

[–]Quilt82 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Say what you want about Mel Gibson, but the son of a bitch knows story structure! - South Park

[–]FuckYou__ThatsWhy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hey he did a movie about a dude who is willing to be killed for everyone's sins. You don't invent shit lile that. The passion of the crisis, if I remember.

[–]HeloRising -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you look at it as a fantasy movie, yeah. If you're watching it as though it has any relation to real life at all, not so much.

[–]firo_sephfiro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The main problem historically with the film is that Gibson insisted that he was telling a story of classic Maya. If he had just kept out factual names, the film could serve as an excellent amalgam of Mesoamerican cultures. In fact, a great deal is historically accurate to the Late Classic and Early Postclassic Mexica culture.

[–]DoReMay[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Just wanted to say, Apocalypto is my favorite movie of ALL time by a country mile...at the end of the movie, I knew I had watched something special.

In my opinion, what makes a movie truly special (patricularliy a historical film) is that you feel like you're actually witnessing the event live...I'm having trouble articulating my thoughts in a concise way, but maybe this makes sense...when I was watching Apocalypto, it felt like I took a time machine, and was transported back to the era of the Mayans. I think a big BIG factor in Mel Gibson setting up this kind of environment was by using the native language...could you imagine if he had used English how lame that would have been? Don't get me wrong it probably would have still been a great movie, but at the end of the day I'd still realize "Hey I'm watching a movie" because I'm not a dumb ass (in general) and I know that people back then didn't speak English.

Just to continue on the same point, there's no denying that Gladiator is one of the greatest movies of all time, BUT once again the fact that their speaking English kind've ruins it in a way. Could you imagine, if they had used Latin instead, how much better the movie would have been?

Anyways, sorry for that little rant. Here's another sweet pic from Apocalypto: http://i.imgur.com/mJjiNOD.jpg

[–]HeloRising 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Apocalypto was in no way historical.

It wasn't quite "1492" bad but it was anything but historical. It should be viewed as historical fanfic at best. There were some cool shots in the film with some great visuals and I do agree that the use of Maya was a great touch, any points the film gains in this it smashes with a sledgehammer with an interpretation of history so loose the Blu-Ray version probably needs tape to hold the disc together.

I'm not trying to tell you not to like something you clearly enjoy, I'm simply pointing out that taking the film as anything representing reality is to have a seriously warped view of the history it claims to represent.

[–]firo_sephfiro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it's kind of disingenuous to say "in no way historical". The main problem historically with the film is that Gibson insisted that he was telling a story of classic Maya. If he had just kept out factual names, the film could serve as an excellent amalgam of Mesoamerican cultures. In fact, a great deal is historically accurate to the Late Classic and Early Postclassic Aztecs, specifically the Mexica culture.

There are a few patronizing and ethnocentric tones in the film where the people are romanticized or dumbed down. Even rural villagers knew about large urban states, there was a ton of long distance exchange. And it wasn't small time villages who were taken as captives for sacrifice and slavery, it was rival elites. Think Game of Thrones. Polities allying and betraying each other. The Mayans and Aztecs both had elaborate calendrical systems, entire cities were built with complex mathematical and astronomical alignments, and solstices wouldn't send them reeling into some existential rain dance sacrifice bullshit. Sacrifices were very common and symbolically linked to agriculture and production.

Source: Anthropologist with emphasis on Mesoamerica (though admittedly I focus on Formative and Early Classic groups in the Oaxaca region, so I'm by no means an expert on Mayans and Aztecs, but I have a general background in the topic assuredly more so than the average joe)

[–]atworkmeir -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

So uhm. It was supposed to be mayans but based around the year 1500 which was like I dont know, 500-600 years after they were all dead. There are many many things about this movie that would make a historian cringe.

[–]twominitsturkish 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's simply not true at all, the Mayans were never "all dead," there are Mayans all over the Yucatan and northern Central America today. The period in which the film is set is that of the Postclassic Maya, which was similar to but distinct from the Classic Maya civilization most familiar to us. The story of Jaguar Paw itself is obviously fictional, but Gibson did a lot to make this film as historically accurate as possible. There was severe political and social turbulence in the late 1400s-early 1500s, epidemics, and environmental catastrophe related to climate change, just like in the film. Also the Postclassic Maya had incorporated aspects of Mesoamerican civilization and religion including human sacrifice to appease the gods. The film is set in 1511 which is the exact year that the Spanish first arrived in the Yucatán Peninsula. There's probably a few inaccuracies, but overall the film should make historians celebrate much more than cringe.

[–]beatlefloydzeppelin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here is a detailed video that argues that Apocalypto is very historically inaccurate. I'm no historian so I have no argument either way, and I still really enjoy Apocalypto regardless of how accurate it is.

[–]ohmygawdjenny 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember I wasn't particularly impressed the first time, but when I watched it in original sound, and I had become a real movie geek by then, I was fucking awed. there's a separate shelf for movies and TV shows like that (like GoT), where you don't see actors but only characters, and yes, this one was just so dynamic and real. watching it was like being struck by lightning. it's one of the few great movies about raw human nature that has been driving us for thousands of years, and it's very difficult to compare it to anything, really

[–]Albetron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Back then and today, wtf?

[–]hops4beer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Run serpentine!

[–]48_65_6c_6c_6f_0d_0a 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah that human sacrifice scene was so intense

[–]CustomFender 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

holy shit the FPV of the rolling head, came here to say this, and this is an amazing movie.

[–]jUSTONEhIT2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really loved this movie for some reason.

[–]RockyTheSakeBukakke 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I find it goofy that the white guy from Hollywood seems to be crossing the river with a lot more ease than the guys dressed as natives of the land.

[–]GroBroPros 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think they are supposed to make it look hard as part of the scene... and are probably doing a run through

[–]RockyTheSakeBukakke 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh I'm sure there's a legit reason, it could be they just tripped. It's just a funny pic to me

[–]Summerie 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, they're acting, so there's that.

[–]pdxscout 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

He's Australian. Those people eat nature for breakfast.

[–]bentplate 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

He was born in New York and lived there until he was 12.

[–]Sabbatai -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's still Australian. It's in the genes, the nature eating.

[–]bentplate 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

His dad was born in New York and his mom was born in Ireland. In fact the only Australian in him is his paternal grandmother, who was Australian born to Irish parents.

[–]Rinkydinky -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jeez Mel Gibson is amazing and he's 100% scotch-australian. When the Scots took over the aboriginals they did a lot of plowing and interbreeding. That's how William wallace was born man

[–]funwithacid83 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Underrated movie.

[–]dognow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Badass movie.

[–]Peculiar_Name 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pBZKj1VnA this movie is apparently really inaccurate :P

[–]willaaay -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck that anti-semite asshole

[–]GreatZeusBeard -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

3rd/4th Mayan from the front - is that Vin Diesel?

[–]Grippler 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, but I can see the resemblance a little. He's bald and has a face...

[–]rationalcomment -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really awesome pic.

Really liked the movie too.