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[–]case313.1 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (10子コメント)

How much does your life have to suck if you get joy out of spewing hate on someone's social media site?

[–]511234 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

FUCK YOU

[–]Atheose_Writing 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Being a woman on social media is pretty terrible. My wife occasionally shows me some of the shit she receives, and as a man it's really eye-opening for me.

I can't imagine being a high-profile woman who deals with an entirely different order of magnitude of that abuse on a daily basis.

[–]case313.1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I occasionally watch the "Celebrity Mean Tweets" videos on YouTube. While some are pretty funny, there's an underlying side effect...and that is the fact that the skit perpetuates more "hate". It's been going on for years now, but it's no longer about what's entertaining, it's about what's shocking. Even more strange, is that people want it both ways: when a vocal group speaks negatively of something we care about, people scream from the rooftops demanding that person/groups gets fired. But those same people have no problem spewing hate about a celebrity they don't know.
Call me crazy, but if I don't like or care about a certain celebrity, product, band, TV show, or whatever...I just choose not to consume it.

[–]abeezmal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

You should really be asking that to the asshole chauvinists in this thread. What a shit show this place becomes when successful women get brought up here in a non sexual context.

[–]car454 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

To be fair her sexuality is the only reason you or anyone else on here knows who she is.

[–]abeezmal -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

To be fair, you aren't me so you don't know shit.

[–]car454 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did you go to school with her, or were you childhood friends with her? Her public image has little to do with her golf game. I'm just curious how you would have known her otherwise.

[–]abeezmal -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

lol so her public image is what in your eyes? A softcore porn star? gtfo. Nothing wrong with a pretty face playing a sport better than amateurs, I don't think anyone's denying that but to sensible people, she's a pretty athlete who plays the sport better than a majority of amateur non pros and there's nothing wrong with that. The point of this video isn't about her complaining about people saying she's pretty, it's that they tell her she has no worth outside of her looks. If you can't see that's wrong and an incredibly hateful thing to say about another human being, then I have nothing to say to you.

[–]car454 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The point is being better than the majority of amateurs doesn't usually garner any media attention. People saying her looks are her primary if not her only selling point are pretty accurate. If she is not profoundly aware that golf is only tangentially related to her fame, well that is pretty sad. There is nothing wrong with being a model, but denying that their worth is not primarily tied to their appearance is silly at best.

[–]WickedTriggeredSrinikleist 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The way I see it, you should use every tool in your bag to find success in life. We set up a society that is superficial and objectifies women but some want to get shitty with a woman when she uses that to her advantage.

Oh dear god. That is the white knightiest thing I've ever said. I feel dirty.

[–]drunkmunky88 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We use every club in our bag, right?

[–]kiddhitta 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (32子コメント)

Lets call a spade a spade, she's not a very good golfer. The reason she gets so much hate is because she's still successful despite not being very good. She's extremely attractive and that's how she make her money. Nothing wrong with that. Plenty of female athletes have and still do this. It's keyboard warriors who have sad pathetic lives and look for any excuse to feel better about themselves. "She's a disgrace to golf!" How so? She probably helped a lot of young girls get interested in the game and probably young men as well.

[–]diamondeyes18 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Lets call a spade a spade, she's not a very good golfer.

I mean, compared to a professional, no, but isn't she still around a scratch handicap or something?

[–]kiddhitta 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I obviously meant as a pro. She calls herself a professional golfer, so that's how you're being judged. If you call yourself a professional plumber and put in a sink that leaks and say "well, I mean, compared to someone who's never put in a sink before it's no that bad."

[–]diamondeyes18 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I thought she won a pro event this year?

[–]kiddhitta 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

"Pro" event. Click this link and read the first sentence or just look at the trophy she is holding to give you an idea that the word "pro" is used very loosely. http://www.golfchannel.com/news/grill-room/spiranac-gets-first-pro-win-cactus-tour/

[–]nebyeti 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

A win is a win at any level. And according to the USGA Rule 2 states that she is a Professional and not an amateur. Good on her for making additional money through endorsements and public appearances. Your time in the spotlight in the game of golf can be short and fleeting so I would do the same.
As for the bullying, if a professional athlete deals with it, imagine what this kind of stuff does to our children. Just saying ...

[–]car454 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

A win is a win at any level.

Well I think we can definitely distinguish between the quality of one win over another though right?

Good on her for making additional money through endorsements and public appearances.

That's a bit laughable. That is almost solely her only source of income.

[–]nebyeti 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Of course quality of field matters. But if you've been a competitive player before and you are working your way up, each one at that "next level" is huge for you. But again, winning is still winning and it's pro level which is an accomplish in itself.
Lots of pros make more in endorsements then actual purse winnings. So I can say while her income might be tilted more in that favor than the mean I don't see it as a laughable statement.
None of this though makes it ok to pick another human apart to the point of tears. IMO

[–]car454 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lots of pros make more in endorsements then actual purse winnings. So I can say while her income might be tilted more in that favor than the mean I don't see it as a laughable statement.

Well she has made $8,010 in gross earnings from the 10 golf tournaments she played in on the Cactus tour. That particular tour requires an entry fee of about $500 per tournament. She spent $5,000 just to play, and nets $3,010. So saying she is making additional money from endorsements is kind of a funny way to put it.

None of this though makes it ok to pick another human apart to the point of tears. IMO

I'm not saying it is ok. However, there are really only two possible solutions. People start behaving like decent human beings online, or Paige grows a thicker skin. I would recommend the latter.

[–]nebyeti 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You seem persistent on wanting to draw me into words around our views about how she makes her money. Paige isn't doing anything wrong and while she should not care what others think, she does. And good on her to speak out on it. I hope by her acknowledging and sharing how it impacted her helps someone else who doesn't have the platform or the resources to be heard. Cheers mate.

[–]car454 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's probably the only time the Cactus tour has ever been mentioned by the golf channel.

[–][deleted] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah she's won a couple tournaments as an Am and one as a Pro. She is a very good golfer. However she has not shown any sign of being a standout competitor whatsoever.

Miss Spiranac has received most of the flak not because of her golfing but because of her promiscuous media on her Instagram. It is a shame she has been bullied, but it is important to note that it was her choice to integrate her sexualized style into her professional atmosphere. I am in no way saying that you should bully someone anonymously on the internet, but I am saying you should be more cautious of what you bring to the table in a professional atmosphere.

I have no problem with it, no one I've met has had a problem with it. Just saying I know more conservative people in the golfing realm would turn the other cheek to it.

[–]Atheose_Writing 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

because of her promiscuous media on her Instagram

her choice to integrate her sexualized style into her professional atmosphere

should be more cautious of what you bring to the table in a professional atmosphere.

This is the kind of weird double standard that boggles my mind. The pro males can scream, and cuss, and smash their club or throw it in a lake, and people call it "passionate". They can dance and pelvic thrust all they want and the crowd eats it up.

But if a woman posts an instagram video of an exaggerated pre-shot routine during a practice round, where she tosses her hair provocatively, people start shaking their heads and talking about "respecting the professional atmosphere".

Is Spiranac attracive? Yes. Does he know it? Yes. Should she wear a fucking bee-keeper outfit when she plays golf to make sure she's not slut-shamed by the creeps who can't control themselves on the internet? Give me a break.

[–]jackson_underpar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry but that is not a double standard. Those are completely different things. A double standard were if a man was supported in the PGA for also being a sexualized model as well as a lower tier pro.

You can't just name unrelated actions and say people should treat each the same due to gender. I get you're trying to support her and I am a fan as well, but your reasoning makes no sense.

[–]car454 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd say it has less to do with any double standard and more do to with her not having accomplished much as a golf professional. She is basically the golf equivalent of sleeping with the boss to get a promotion. She has an equipment sponsor, guest hosted a couple shows, been on the cover of golf digest, and receives exemptions into LPGA tournaments, despite having done nothing even remotely noteworthy in the world of golf.

[–]thedanger1847 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She's done plenty to be noteworthy in the world of golf. She has built a brand as a golfer that has demand for eyeballs and attention. And that's more than you can say for plenty of talented male golfers who chug along cashing checks while no-one outside of die-hards know their names.

She has not only built a brand for herself, but her own popularity has most definitely translated to increased attention to the sport as a whole, if only marginally.

[–]car454 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

She has built a brand as a golfer

She's built a brand as a model who plays golf. It's not hard to understand why that might not sit right with die hard enthusiasts. Personally I see nothing wrong with that, but I do think labeling the reaction certain people have had to her as purely sexists is not accurate.

[–]thedanger1847 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Regardless, just because it doesn't sit right with people, that doesn't make it okay for them to harass her and her family. It might not be purely sexist, but its pure hateful jealousy from pathetic human beings.

[–]TheEgon1.0 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It feels to me like Danica Patrick or Michelle Wie all over again. Yes, I'm sure there are some female golfers who feel like they're getting the short end of the stick bc they're not getting coverage despite being better. However, I imagine most of the hurtful abuse isn't coming from tour rivals.

[–]DarkWing260 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kind of bad examples in my opinion, especially with Wie. Wie finished 2nd at the LPGA championship and 3rd at the Open the year she turned pro. She was a legit golfer who happened to be attractive. I don't know much about racing, but it is my understanding that Patrick was competitive. Paige's game is no where near LPGA level. She is a model that also has a decent golf game. She hasn't been a standout at really any level. Not college, and certainly not with her pro career.

[–]Gila_Monster12/Las Vegas 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's really far worse than Wie or Danica, two female athletes with professional level skills; Spiranac is currently ranked 10th on the Cactus Tour. The Cactus Tour is Arizona's version of the Moonlight Tour in Florida. It offers female golfers a "pay-to-play" experience of a competitive tour atmosphere. She entered 10 events (at a cost of about $500 per event) and she has earned $8,000. I can assure you, she is the only person with a career earning amount of $3,000 to receive a sponsors exemption to a pro tour event. Unlike the other two athletes you named, Paige's success is entirely due to her selling herself to the lowest common denominator of internet fame. It's her right to expose herself that way; its other people's right to call her out on it. She could make all the "bullying" go away any time she wants by staying off Instagram; but the person who is first on the Cactus Tour money list (and is a much better golfer than Paige) has a part-time job teaching golf to kids at a muni course in Glendale to make ends meet.

[–]Acldestroyer 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So your opinion is, that out of some sort of altruistic sense Paige should turn down legitimate business opportunities that have been offered to her and go teach kids to make ends meet?

You honestly believe, in this world, using any chance you have to become successful is not the way to go?

[–]zimmie41 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds more like he was saying you have to take the good with the bad. Paige's biggest accomplishment as a pro is a win on the cactus tour. Generally no one outside her friends and family would have any idea who she is. She is able to make a very good living by marketing her appearance. Where as other aspiring professionals take a second job, like giving lessons to kids, to make ends meet. Obviously if you have Paige's looks there is more money to be had leveraging that than lessons, but some of the attention will be unwanted. She probably gets a bit more negative attention because she has been given a lot of coverage in the golf world without really having done anything golf related to deserve it.

[–]Gila_Monster12/Las Vegas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. My opinion is that she is undeserving of the attention that she gets as a golfer, based on her golfing abilities. I also feel that she is now claiming the victim, due to the same mechanism that allowed her such success, the Internet. Her teary-eyed claims that "it doesn't matter how I do at this tournament because I can help someone" are completely wrong. It matters a great deal because it is an opportunity taken from someone else who doesn't spend more time on their hair and make-up than they do their putting.
It tomorrow you arrived at work, to find out that you had been let go so the company could hire someone who was far worse at their job but was related to the boss or had bigger tits than you, you would be rightfully upset. Imagine then, that when people criticized the hiring, the person said, "all this criticism is hurtful, I am the victim, not Acidestroyer!" That is what is happening here.

[–]deathbybayleaf 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nailed it, well said.

i think one of the biggest differences is that a lot of aspiring players wouldn't even dare accept these kinds of offers. It might surprise some people, but there are some people out there who have this thing called integrity and want to earn things for themselves through hard work. They know damn well they haven't put in the work or shown the results yet to be on the cover of a golf magazine or take sponsor exemptions into events over others who are vastly superior, but are taking the traditional route of earning the spot instead of whoring themselves out on social media.

she's fully aware of what she's doing and she knows how to make it stop. sorry but i have zero sympathy.

[–]TheEgon1.0 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe Wie and Patrick weren't perfect examples but I got the same feeling. Perhaps a better comparison would be Ricky Fowler a few years ago before he had won anything. He was popular and signed huge endorsements but was derided as "overrated". While Ricky certainly justified his fame it did push people's buttons at first. She doesn't seem to have that career path but she has made a career for herself which includes more modeling. I will say her game is probably better than mine...

[–]Silence_v2 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The one reasonable comment, and the white knights in here are down-voting you.

[–]thedanger1847 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So the one reasonable thing to do is submit to the trolls and scumbags and change her lifestyle? Because those low life's opinions should dictate others' decisions and careers?

[–]philthyhack 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Short of Tiger, Rory, and maybe Luke Donald, she is in the top 5 of people that I root for. Granted, she doesn't get pro tour opportunities very often, but still.

[–]abeezmal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Lets call a spade a spade, she's not a very good golfer

Eh she beat the 2015 US Women's Amateur Champion and 2015 Women's world #1 in a playoff in the Cactus Tour event that everyone thinks isn't worth a shit. She's better than most amateurs male or female.

[–]kiddhitta 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you call yourself a professional golfer and then compare yourself to amateur golfers, what does that accomplish? That's like me comparing myself to a 10 year old kid playing golf. She's not better than amateur male golfers. There's high school boys out there that could out play her. She uses golf as a platform to gain exposure for herself by being attractive. There's no money in women's sports especially if you're not at the top level. She knows this. Good for her, use what you got to become successful.

[–]car454 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

she beat the 2015 US Women's Amateur Champion and 2015 Women's world #1 in a playoff

Hannah also has a win on the Symetra tour. Interestingly enough, I'd bet almost no one has any idea who she is, despite having had considerably more success at golf than Paige. Maybe O'sullivan should start popping Prov's out of her tits and people will actually take her seriously.

[–]PeeBJAY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's not even that sexual what the hell? She posts dresses and shit, I've never even seen her wear less. She's just good looking and has a funny attitude/personality so people are interested in her.

[–]MiamiFootball 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I'm surprised lots of these folks have such an issue contextualizing these trolls. So frequently relatively big figures talk about 'the reaction they'll get on twitter' and I find it so odd that we give everyone so much credence.

[–]Lampmonster1 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (11子コメント)

The internet provides this barrier that allows horrible people to explore every aspect of cruel thoughts and words. Hundreds or thousands of people trying to say that one thing that hooks your thoughts. Doesn't matter that they don't know you, someone is bound to get lucky. I really worry what the internet and less and less actual human interaction is going to turn us into.

[–]Atheose_Writing 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find it so odd that we give everyone so much credence.

I think you'd be surprised just how often women receive this sort of abuse/harassment. My wife runs a cancer charity and is a somewhat-public figure, and the amount of daily abuse she gets on Twitter is bonkers. I once made the comment to her, "Yeah, everyone gets treated like shit on the internet," and she spent the next week showing me every single harassing tweet and DM she got each day. It blew my mind how often, how unrelenting, it was.

She usually has no problem ignoring it, and doesn't let it get to her, but there are days where it's just overwhelming and she fails.

[–]Wo721 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Arguably the Anna Kournikova of women's golf right now: more successful off the course than on it, which comes with far too many comments from the peanut gallery.

[–]g_borris 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Anna Kournikova

Kournikova had a lot of talent and got too much shit for not winning in singles. She was ranked in the top 20 for quite a while, was competitive against the top talent in her time, and won a shit ton of doubles titles including grand slams.

[–]abeezmal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

lol yea, Kournikova ONLY got shit bc she didn't win enough single matches. Fuck out of here. She was maligned by men and women because of the same reasons Paige is being scorned now online, if you think they're any different in that regard you're playing yourself.

[–]ashdrewness3.5-Austin TX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She's currently 1102 in the women's world golf ranking. http://rolexrankings.com/

Anna's highest ranking was 8. So until Paige cracks the top 10 (even if she doesn't win) or at least even makes it onto the LPGA tour, I don't think they're comparable from a competitive track record standpoint. The world knew about Anna because she was still getting airtime in the tournaments. If Paige was around 20yrs ago before social media then we would never have heard about her.

[–]abeezmal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reading comprehension.

Anna was denigrated by the public for being just a sexy woman whose sex life was everyone's business bc she posed for Maxim who played tennis. The majority of people who had shit to say about her never brought up her rankings or if they did it was "Well she hasn't done shit in a while...but she's a whore so who cares!". My point was in much the same way that Anna was dehumanized in this way by the public, Paige faces the same criticism. Separate of her talents, separate from her status as an athlete first, she's nothing but "a pretty face who probably sleeps around and who cares what she's done bc she's just a pretty chick."

The world knew about Anna because she was still getting airtime in the tournaments.

Keep telling yourself that. She also modeled but models don't get any exposure globally right?

[–]ashdrewness3.5-Austin TX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She modeled because she was known as a tennis player, she was known as a tennis player because she spent most of a decade as one of the top 50 players in the world.

You're saying the fact they shared harassment for making profit from their looks is their common trait, but that can be said of almost every celebrity. I'm not excusing online harassment but just making the point that Anna had worthy accomplishments in her sport which made her famous. Paige became famous due to social media, not her sporting accomplishments.

[–]alexca1 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why would anyone hate on her? She is playing golf and she is ridiculously good looking. I can't understand why people would want to discourage that!?!?

There are millions of other instagram models with a point-of-difference and golf is hers. She ain't 'bad' at golf by any stretch and would probably smoke most people that leave shitty comments on instagram and youtube.

Most people at one point have probably had a few nasty comments sent their way at one point in their lives and not thought too much of it but to get possibly 100s of messages daily - That would be fucken hard I bet.

[–]juanlee337 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

true that but I can see why she is getting so much hate. There must be thousand of average/ugly looking women who are better than her but dont get exceptions because frankly , they are ugly for tv.

[–]thedanger1847 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That shouldn't be her problem though. Because other people aren't afforded the same advantages we should expect her to be harassed daily?

[–]Atheose_Writing 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

but to get possibly 100s of messages daily - That would be fucken hard I bet.

I posted this on another comment, but it's worth repeating here:

My wife runs a cancer charity and is a somewhat-public figure, and the amount of daily abuse she gets on Twitter is bonkers. I once made the comment to her, "Yeah, everyone gets treated like shit on the internet," and she spent the next week showing me every single harassing tweet and DM she got each day. It blew my mind how often, how unrelenting, it was.

She usually has no problem ignoring it, and doesn't let it get to her, but there are days where it's just overwhelming and she fails.

[–]I_AM_METALUNAshoulda yelled 2 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can see that she's hurt by the comments and I'm sure some of these trolls found out some info and struck a nerve. That being said, she needs to find a way to ignore or use it a fuel or it'll crush her.

[–]WickedTriggeredSrinikleist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Could someone give me some context? I'm not exactly balls deep in women's golf.

[–]MarcusDA 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Honestly, I didn't know she actually played competitively. I thought she was just an Instagram "model" that dressed up in golf outfits.

[–]slogga 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

She has played in a few tournaments, I'm pretty sure she has actually won a pro event as well.

[–]Gila_Monster12/Las Vegas 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She won a "pro" event on the Cactus Tour this year. If you are unfamiliar with this organization you need only look for a second at their website to see it is not exactly the web.com tour.

[–]Koulyone 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would like to know which one. I heard she has only played in a few and doesn't do that well.

[–]MrBlaaaaah25+ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

She won the Colorado State Match Play championship. Also won at the collegiate level in the Mountain West Conference for U of Arizona. All as an amateur.

She won on the Cactus Tour, professionally. http://www.golfchannel.com/news/grill-room/spiranac-gets-first-pro-win-cactus-tour/

[–]Gila_Monster12/Las Vegas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

She attended San Diego St. but never finished a season in the top 3 in scoring on her team. In her final year Paige (because she was not among the top 362 individuals) was not invited to compete in the season regional championships individually. SDSU was invited as one the top 96 teams, but lost on the first day. Her not being invited as a top individual may have been an oversight; or, it may have been because the NCAA, unlike Golf Digest or the organizers of Omega Dubai Ladies Masters, does not consider what an athlete looks like in a bikini when they plan their competitions.

[–]LiterallyTerryLiterally a Course Nazi -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're on a mission on this thread to make sure everyone knows your disapproval. It's kind of sad. We get it, she's not a top women's golfer. Who gives a shit. How does that, in any way, relate to her being bullied? Which is what this thread is all about.

[–]Gila_Monster12/Las Vegas -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yea, this one hits close to home for me as my wife and I both spend a lot of time volunteering with youth sports in our community and I hate the message she sends. That if you want to be successful in sports, don't bother practicing, just get a boob job and sell sex on the Internet. I also know that there is no criminal investigation attached to her cyber bullying and the comments that upset her are along the lines of "you don't belong here", and "you suck". Things that are not nice, can definitely be hurtful, but are not surprising for the media she has chosen to advance her career. But really, you use the net to create a career for yourself through the cheapest attention there is; now you really shouldn't complain about that same attention while simultaneously taking opportunities away from the people that really have earned it. What is surprising to me is the amount of people that say she is among their favorite golfers ,root for her and defend her only because she posts cleavage pics online. Do you think she will send you a PM wanting to hook up because you defended her? That is really sad.

[–]LiterallyTerryLiterally a Course Nazi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate the message she sends

Can you not understand this is completely irrelevant to her, or anybody else being cyber bullied? That I'm not defending her over anything, but, instead trying to point out the obvious: that there isn't a justification for saying absolute garbage online about people. No justification for viciously tearing into them, their families, and anything they might have accomplished behind a screen online. It's bullshit. I'm surprised you and your wife are accepting of a "two wrongs make a right" kind of philosophy volunteering so much with youth sports.

[–]moctopodes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get your point, but it does appear that she's working hard on her game. Plus, her social media skills have obviously given her great opportunities to build on her talent. Better sponsors, clubs, coaches, etc.

[–]philthyhack 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those. mother. fuckers.

[–]bobbydreddits 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'd be willing to bet there is more to this then appearances. There's a few nudes of her flying around some social circles that aren't on the internet, and Id almost bet that's part of it. Also with the game of golf also comes a lot of lawn chair idiots that think because they shot a 78 once at the local 5800 yard par 69, they think they know what it's like to compete on the highest level of golf.

Some may hate on her for "whining" in the video but to me it seemed like a genuine moment from a young women living in the troll age. She may be famous but she also is in a hard spot. She is a really good golfer, but it seems she is currently not good enough to make it to the LPGA, so she gets all of this attention because she is smoking hot. Fuck the money (if there even is that much), I wouldn't want to be her.

[–]511234 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Which social circles? Like which ones specifically.

[–]HuggyBear_11.7 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's just so many

[–]bobbydreddits -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was my way of saying that I've seen the picture from multiple people that are in no way related so I'm assuming a bunch of people have them but no one wants to post em.

[–]abeezmal 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Those nudes are fakes.

[–]bobbydreddits -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Best fake job I've seen then!

[–]corkentellis13,1 Sweden 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I hope she finds a way past the internet hate and gets back in the saddle again. I think she seems sincere and hard working, and it's sad to see that being ruined by hate and envy.

[–]colliemayne 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

M'Paige

[–]Airsick1972 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://m.imgur.com/qJFr0qe?r

Relevant

[–]Spute2000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've got mixed feelings about the whole thing. On one hand, if you are a male or female- hot or not- posting pics and vids of yourself as often as she does and in the manner that she does, you are opening yourself up to internet bashing. It comes with the territory and is nothing new. This should come as no surprise to her or anyone else. I follow her on instagram. Her pics and vids are almost entirely of her with a club in her hand. However there are other pics of her that lend itself to self promotion and have nothing to do with golf. They are not pics of her and her friends at a party, or of her dog, or her meal. They are pics of her dressed to kill, she looks damn good, and she knows it. I have a feeling there is some money being made. And for the record- because it is happening DOES NOT MEAN IT IS OK.

On the other hand, it sucks that a person cannot enjoy the use of social media without enduring such a malicious backlash. It really begs the question- why do it?

[–]SheLivesInAFairyTell 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here there, fixed the issue.

[–]Elguappo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I can see why some might not like that she gets unwarranted attention (based on her looks compared to her skill), You still have to be a very sad person to get online to spew hate like that.

[–]denw2oBrooklyn, NY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was another thread started by some guy who got to play with her on the course. I remember that thread going south real fast, which was disappointing.

Would love to see her become competitive.

[–]TMoney67New Jersey 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's beautiful and clearly passionate about the game, even though she has a long way to go yet as a professional (which I think she has acknowledged). Has she used her good looks to promote herself and her brand, clearly the answer is yes. And there's nothing wrong with that.

People need to get the fuck over that- unfortunately we don't all win the genetic lottery. But you know damn well if you did, you'd be doing the same thing. Regardless, no one deserves to be disrespected for no good reason.

[–]deluxe186 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I for one have to give those middle eastern men some credit....invite all the hot chicks to come play....they're doing it right!

[–]kickmeinthejimmy -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You got anything bad to say to Paige, say it to me first. I will fight you.

[–]J_I_S_B[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

2016, where people attack you for being too pretty.

[–]Acldestroyer -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Its always shocking to me how much celebs let youtube etc comments effect them. Its just the internet ladies, everyone is an asshole on the internet.

[–]Atheose_Writing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know I've posted this twice in this thread already, but I think it's worth repeating here:

My wife runs a cancer charity and is a somewhat-public figure, and the amount of daily abuse she gets on Twitter is bonkers. I once made the comment to her, "Yeah, everyone gets treated like shit on the internet," and she spent the next week showing me every single harassing tweet and DM she got each day. It blew my mind how often, how unrelenting, it was.

She usually has no problem ignoring it, and doesn't let it get to her, but there are days where it's just overwhelming and she fails.

I really don't think men understand the kind of abuse public women receive on social media unless they've seen it themselves. It's an order of magnitude different than what a man receives.

[–]michineksingle digit HDCP -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Am I the only one who doesn't think she is extra pretty? I like e.g. Klara Spilkova much more, she is on European LPGA Tour i.e. she can play golf.

[–]I_need_bigger_boobs -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean I didn't listen to the video, but she's really hot.