Is MGTOW anti-relationship/anti-marriage/anti-women? I'm none of those things by and large...not keen on marriage since I've seen how bad marriages can go. I don't want to be manipulated or manipulate others. It seems like some MGTOW folks think it's okay to manipulate others.

I have a girlfriend and we've been together for over a decade. We also have a kid who's awesome. She makes more than me, we have sex, and get along good. Her parents are still married and happy.

I think marriage is societal bullshit in a lot of regards but does it really matter? How would getting married really matter to me? Seem like she has more to loose than I would.

Fire away...