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/u/nullc banned? (self.Bitcoin)

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Is /u/nullc banned from reddit? I can't access his account.

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[–]cypherblock [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Well there was this whole thread on the other sub which got things moving and might have led to the ban.

The history here goes something like this (exact timing and order of events cannot be certain):

  • nullc posts an explanation showing OPs post was inaccurate and FUD, but does so by posting Gavin Andresen's email address (yes sort of ridiculous that was the start but read on). Note that according to unreddit this comment was NOT originally in the form of a github commit message as /u/nullc would later claim.
  • moderator deletes the comment based on doxing rule and asks that he repost without the email address
  • nullc reposts an image that has a github commit message that still contains an Gavin's email address, and cites the fact that this image is not on reddit.com
  • moderator approves/un-deletes original comment by nullc because he realizes Gavin is a bitcoin public figure and so under reddit rules the email address is ok.
  • at some point nullc changes original comment to be a github commit message (this is based on unreddit showing it not being that way originally).
  • nullc gets into longer discussion with moderator about the comment removal and in the course of that apparently (this part is unclear) mentions someone else's info which is considered doxxing.
  • because of that 2nd doxxing (I think), nullc gets a temp ban on r/btc for 1 day (or so I hear).

Somehow I'm guessing the above history was involved in his reddit suspension (hopefully temporary). It probably does not help that nullc argued with the mods, posted a follow up image that still had doxxing info, continued to argue with mods, then apparently posted some other doxxing info on another individual, then in subsequent threads claimed his original comment was a github commit message when (according to unreddit) it was not.

Then again his suspension could have been for completely other reasons, I have no inside knowledge.

[–]killerstorm [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I was once shadowbanned on reddit for posting a LinkedIn profile link. It was a profile of a guy who held a public office, I just googled his name. So this might be a work of some over-zealous reddit bot.

[–]jay45678 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

or sock puppets, lots and lots of sock puppets... just saying...

[–]sQtWLgK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So this might be a work of some over-zealous reddit bot.

I hope that that is the case. Some time ago, Andreas too got suspended for asking to downvote buttcoiners. And more recently, Peter Todd, for literally stealing Reddit Gold through double spending. Both shortly got their accounts back.

[–]Lejitz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

  • nullc gets into longer discussion with moderator about the comment removal and in the course of that apparently (this part is unclear) mentions someone else's info which is considered doxxing.
  • because of that 2nd doxxing (I think), nullc gets a temp ban on r/btc for 1 day (or so I hear).

Maxwell got into it with the moderators about blocking any mention of the guy in this article. He mentioned his name and his employer without ever even mentioning his Reddit username. Of course his Reddit username is listed as defendant alongside his real name in public bankruptcy court documents.

Prior to settlement bankruptcy court was going to determine whether the payments to this individual were made fraudulently (preferentially) in contemplation of bankruptcy. Because the case was settled, there aren't many facts. But in fairness to the individual, even if the court had found "fraud," it could have simply been "constructive fraud," which does not have culpability requirement. It simply requires preferential payments to creditors within a certain time frame. Payments to preferred creditors leave other creditors with less. Charitable donations can even be clawed back under constructive fraud.

With that said, I suspect there was actual knowledge of and participation in bad behavior.

http://www.coindesk.com/bankrupt-bitcoin-mining-firm-trustee-seeks-return-of-funds-from-former-promoter/

[–]btsfav [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

popcorn time LOL

[–]cyounessiredditor for 3 months [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Popcorn futures surging

[–]supermari0 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Note that according to unreddit this comment was NOT originally in the form of a github commit message as /u/nullc would later claim.

This implies he was lying, covering his tracks. He simply edited the reply to provide the full commit message shortly after posting it as recorded by unreddit.

In any case, I didn't see any real doxxing. Probably just a horde of users / bots seizing an opportunity to hammer the report button and triggering a suspension either automatically or through someone reviewing the case very superficially.

[–]klondike_barz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

this all seems pretty overblown. not a huge fan of nullc - but the entire thread looks like two hardheads butting out until one got moderated

[–]Lightsword [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Wonder if I'll get banned for posting this Coindesk article.

[–]michelmx [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

HashFast and Marc Lowe, a former promoter for the service who operated under the handle 'CypherDoc'.

He got banned for this, seriously?

[–]Lightsword [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's what I would assume, that's the excuse they used to ban him from /r/btc.

[–]LovelyDay [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Doubtful. According to some /r/btc post a while back, he got a 24hr ban for that, but that must have been over already.

So it has to be something else.

[–]dellintelbitcoin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The 24h ban was only from r/btc. If they reported him to admins as well its possible they only got to it just now and made a mistake because they are too busy.

[–]jay45678 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

how many socks you have?

[–]sumBTC [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

> /dev/nullc

[–]fnb_theory [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

who is /u/nullc?

[–]amarcord [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Greg Maxwell.

[–]NLNico [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

A bitcoin core developer. I could say his real name but I am afraid of being banned.

[–]jay45678 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

lol, like that is even close to what Greg did...

good troll though, 7/10

Edit: Socks...

[–]NLNico [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

"Not even close" implies he did much worse and truly terrible things. So enlighten me, what did he do exactly?

Because based on the current info, it seems like he only said the name of a known scammer (whose name is on a public news article too.) So that seems pretty comparable. But if you have insider-administrator info, I am happy to hear it.

[–][削除されました]  (2子コメント)

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    [–]NLNico [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    According to reddit rules "temporary suspensions will only be apparent to the user affected", while "permanent suspensions will be publicly communicated via the userpage of the affected user." His userpage shows a suspension message, so he does seem to be perma banned (which could be appealed though.)

    I just make my comments based on the currently known information. You seem to have secret insider information that even contradicts the reddit rules. Too bad you can't share it :(

    [–]klondike_barz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    greg.maxwell@.......oh, i see what you're trying to make me do

    [–]NLNico [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    This account has been suspended

    [–]r1q2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Permanent suspensions will be publicly communicated via the userpage of the affected user.

    [–]moleccc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Suspensions are applied for violating the Reddit content policy.

    Suspensions can only be applied to accounts by the admins, employees of Reddit. Suspensions can be permanent or temporary, depending on the nature of the violation and the history of the person in question.

    [–]Matthew-Davey [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    Without commenting on the events that led up to this, it could be a blessing in disguise. It was unbecoming of the CTO of Blockstream to be getting so involved in Reddit melodramas. It was also slightly inappropriate to be airing his dirty laundry re: HashFast in public.

    No disrespect intended.

    [–]rapidYouth [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    It does not take more than a few seconds to create a new reddit account over Tor.

    [–]Matthew-Davey [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    True, but he can no longer associate his Reddit accounts with his professional identity.

    [–]steb2k [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    It would be massively obvious if he tried to separate the two, he's got a... Unique...personality.

    [–]blockstreamlinedredditor for 3 months [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I have single handedly learned a wider variety of interesting and valuable facts about Bitcoin and game theory from /u/nullc's reddit posts than any other single source of information about Bitcoin.

    His posts are critical to disseminating important information in a time when people are too scared to speak out against the trolls in r/btc. He has been on the front lines while people like you just sit back and armchair criticize.

    [–]BillyHodson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Well that's good. Now he can spend more time coding and doing all the stuff devs do best.

    [–]BitderbergGroup [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    This is going to be a long thread, let me get some popcorn.

    [–]jacobthedane [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    Maybe its the free speech crowd at r/btc that made a case of the banning from the subreddit and pushed it to a global reddit ban.

    [–]steb2k [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Yes, Because the mods of a tiny subreddit can do that.... /s

    [–]afilja [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Maybe? Remember that Roger Ver already tried to get control of /r/bitcoin

    [–]px403 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Or maybe, just maybe, it was his constant pattern of harassment and abuse that got him banned. A vast majority of users on /r/btc were upset over the 24 hour subreddit ban, even after some clear site wide rule violations.

    How he managed to leverage that into a site wide ban is beyond me, but it's not something that anyone at /r/btc would have been able to do.

    [–]NicolasDorier [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    I would bet /r/btc spamming the reddit mods to get him ban :)

    [–]HostFat [スコア非表示]  (32子コメント)

    Maybe it is related to the doxing.

    [–]dellintelbitcoin [スコア非表示]  (27子コメント)

    What doxing?

    [–]mjesmjes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    He posted an image which had the CIA mole's email visible.

    [–]HostFat [スコア非表示]  (25子コメント)

    You should read about it on rbtc.

    [–]dellintelbitcoin [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

    Just checked. There is nothing on rbtc. What are you talking about?

    [–]HostFat [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

    I'll send you a PM, it isn't possible to make links here.

    [–]dellintelbitcoin [スコア非表示]  (17子コメント)

    Just link it

    [–][削除されました]  (16子コメント)

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      [–]dellintelbitcoin [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

      He will get banned if the links it here

      Links what?

      [–]dellintelbitcoin [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

      Whoever removed that comment just aided HostFat's trolling. Luckily i managed to quote it so people can see what it said. And for the record HostFat gave me a link in PM that was useless. Im sure Greg will be back soon.

      [–]HostFat [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

      I didn't delete the message before :)

      The link that I gave you was what I though had some info, because I didn't made any search about this problem the other days.

      [–]Lightsword [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

      Probably talking about the information in this article.

      [–]chriswheeler [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

      That is about a hearing from Feb '16, did Coindesk publish a follow up on the result of the hearing, or has it not happened yet?

      [–]Lightsword [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      There was this.

      [–]chriswheeler [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      The judge indicated that he would issue an order on the decision, which at press time is currently unavailable.

      [–]MortuusBestia [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      I'm gonna laugh my ass off of its related to rampant sock puppets and astroturfing.

      [–]rapidYouth [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      Who he was trying to dox?

      [–]btsfav [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      username checks out

      [–]1BitcoinOrBust [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Nice! (If you're referring to the subject of the ban, not the OP).

      [–]afilja [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

      Well they might as well close down r/btc . Reading through the reddit rule book. Looks like the break almost every rule. That combined with the fact that /u/memorydealers tried to get in control of /r/bitcoin in the past I think we can start reporting that "free speech" cesspool.

      [–]ThePiachu [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

      When did he try to get control of /r/Bitcoin ?

      [–]afilja [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      A while back he contacted the CEO of Reddit directly and tried to get his way like that. The CEO of Reddit said No and that they prefer a hands-off approach.

      [–]sQtWLgK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Looks like the break almost every rule.

      Starting with Roger literally buying the sub (his claim is that "they negotiated and agreed of purchase, but then the previous owner found that that would be against the rules so he gave it for free"; few things are harder to believe).

      [–]sroose [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      I guess we all move on to another platform then. How's Yours doing? Maybe Voat in the meantime.

      If only we could ever really let Reddit go..

      [–]nad48 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Takeover attack? first ban on /r/btc then segwit not going that fast (not related) now casually this.

      nullc might not be very happy right now, probably was not very happy being banned from btc after putting some serious effort there to be understood.

      Same with segwit after a serious lot of awesome work.

      And after this ridiculous ban left aside and feeling slightly disconnected from the community with some additional "casual" shit. A couple additional ugly casual events more and he might be quite pissed off.

      Someone wouldn't mind weakening core and putting another in charge?

      Or maybe someone is just deflating slightly the sentiment balloon (very correlated with price) and get some quick money?

      Has the theme/sentiment of the subreddit slightly switched into segwit failed (although it is not taking more than other times), core not that strong and ridiculous ideas like stagnant bitcoin forever waiting for a million alts and hyperledger to reduce the first mover advantage and at the same time remove the need on the dev team?

      Market manipulation?. Is it so difficult to have a botnet a group of shills or a few curl scripts downvoting and upvoting here and there and change the sentiment after a couple days? Moving from total bullish euphory into this is not workiing, leaderless feelings of after all this time segwit has not worked and now nullc banned... and the only chance now is bigblocks ?

      Maybe someone could do both things at the same time and get some money from other coins where he has invested aswell as weakening core? Do we have anyone in the community that could do those two things?

      Ridiculous ideas? very likely, i am just speculating, but in bitcoin we have seen so many types of attacks that considering options does not hurt.

      EDIT: many downvotes. i might not be that far

      [–]birdbolt1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      pretty kinky username there

      [–]Lightsword [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Wonder if I will get banned for posting publicly available mailing list posts that contain email addresses.

      [–]BitcoinReminder_com [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Please unban /u/nullc !

      [–]rapidYouth [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

      The latest capture is of Oct 3, 2016 - http://web.archive.org/web/20161003113152/https://www.reddit.com/user/nullc

      [–]ebaley [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Is it a big deal? He can create another account, of course.