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[–]RescuedogdadMI 971ポイント972ポイント  (157子コメント)

This is good as long as we stop letting people in who don't agree.

[–]AquilibriusCAN 371ポイント372ポイント  (23子コメント)

Agree to respect the basic rights of others, absolutely.

[–]crooked_clinton 212ポイント213ポイント  (14子コメント)

I SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO SHARIA NO-GO ZONES...

... SO LONG AS THEY SUPPORT MY STATUE OF LGBT MOHAMMED

[–]Kingoffistycuffs 23ポイント24ポイント  (10子コメント)

I wonder how much hate and death threats I could get if I commissioned a statue of Jesus and Mohammad French kissing.

[–]TRUMP4TWCAN 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

HAHA! INFIDELS. WE GO TO WAR NOW.

ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU AKBAARRRRRRRR

[–]RepDetec 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a prototype LGBT Mohammed statue we can see/post?

[–]BIG_FKN_HAMMERUSA 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

My gay neighbors and I disagree with a LOT of issues in politics, but we all respect each other's right to speak. We are Americans!

[–]TripleMetal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as people aren't breaking any laws, they have every right to be left the fuck alone to do what they want. It's really not complicated.

[–]OuijuWA 82ポイント83ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, it's racist to not want to allow anti minority anti gay anti woman pro-beheading people.

[–]GeehodjimmyFL 38ポイント39ポイント  (34子コメント)

ISLAM

[–]PokemonForeverBaby 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

But they're peaceful! (They're not)

[–]ono412 32ポイント33ポイント  (6子コメント)

Some are some aren't. Not everyone interprets religious texts the same as we all well know.

[–]iBullDoser 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know what they say... Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim.

[–]YourOwnSideWLS 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless you're in Ireland.

[–]shadilay_ 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is it really. It's not that I hate Muslims, it's that I find their religion as practiced in those countries to be reprehensible. Fact is that many Muslims ARE moderate (my uncle is a moderate Iranian Muslim and fled when the current regime took power, but even he says we need to "keep the savages out"), but the fact is also that a much bigger number of Muslims are not open and liberal like the west is and they will not adapt, they will try to change it.

That's the ultimate mistake liberalism males(in the classic libertarian sense), that just because WE are accepting of their ways, it doesn't mean they'll act in a similar manner of respect for our ways.

[–]archetype776 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is also good as long as the liberals stop trying to get me to say all of it is normal when I'M ASKED. I'm all for everyone living however they want, just don't expect me to agree with it and pretend they are all perfectly logical.

[–]jhouston85FL 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everything this! You must assimilate!

[–]Apostatesteve 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

This we need to preserve our values not the values of bronze age sheep herders

[–]CarlosDangrAnthropod 15ポイント16ポイント  (60子コメント)

As long as the Supreme Court stops rewriting the constitution. Why not let the states decide? (Gay marriage)

[–]TexasTacosTX 58ポイント59ポイント  (18子コメント)

My stance is that due to the U.S. government granting tax breaks to married couples they need to acknowledge gay marriage.

Also, not a single person I have ever spoken to who is against gay marriage has been able to present a logical reason why their view applies to all other people.

[–]CarlosDangrAnthropod 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Same. I'm not arguing against the morality, don't care frankly. I'm saying our constitutional process was undermined. And if what you say is true that the consensus is people are accepting then what's the problem with states voting? Just like weed or what have you.

The real reason it was taken to the SCOTUS is because Obama and the lefties want to undermine our constitution. And they will continue to do this to push their agenda. Simpletons are getting caught up on the morality.

[–]TexasTacosTX 31ポイント32ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't think you understand. No U.S. state created the concept of marriage. The concept of marriage has existed for thousands of years and it is found in all cultures and societies throughout the world. Homosexuality has also existed for thousands of years and is found in various cultures and societies throughout the world. You can not suppress the unalienable right of the pursuit of happiness by denying benefits to select people who engage in a universal concept.

[–]hasapointUSA 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

The concept of marriage as a religious institution is far older than the concept of marriage as a legal contract recognized by a governing body. Prior to the 16th Amendment (income tax), there was no financial benefit the government offered to married couples, so in a way the concept of marriage as a legal right has existed for a century, not millenia.

[–]sokolov22 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am confused. Can you expand on why you think the Constitutional Process was undermined by a case going to the Judicial Branch to determine constitutionality? Is that not the EXPRESS FUNCTION of the Supreme Court? How do you think it should have happened?

[–]Franciklipp 82ポイント83ポイント  (22子コメント)

Because it is a right all people should have and should not be dictated based on what state you live in. States don't have a right to chose what what groups of people they treat equally.

[–]CherryManderingPA 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Agree this should’ve been respected. At this point though what's done is done. It was already legal in most ststes anyway.

[–]thought_person 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

NOT ALL MUSLIMS YOU RACIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[–]phantombeats 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

how about stop electing people who don't agree? That might be easier

[–]DennisOswineIRL 646ポイント647ポイント  (126子コメント)

Few problem with all of this.

You can't support gay marriage and import people who will kill gays.

You can't support Atheism and import people who kill Atheists.

You can't support Christianity and import people who kill Christians.

I'm not saying all Muslims want this. But there is clearly a pattern of violence against people in Islamic countries and communities.

[–]Grants91 228ポイント229ポイント  (14子コメント)

It isn't Trump supporters that need to see this. It's the rabid SJWs and BLM who hate whitey and everything whitey does that need to learn something about equal freedoms.

[–]basedretired0313USMC 74ポイント75ポイント  (10子コメント)

We should upvote this bad ass true post to the top of r/ all... oh wait...

[–]vtfsobnfUT 18ポイント19ポイント  (8子コメント)

They also need to learn history.

Islam has been constantly invading it's neighbors for 1400 years. Before Islam, the Middle East was mostly Christian.

For 1200 years, White people were slaves under Muslim masters. Three times as many White people were slaves under Muslims as there were black people slaves under Whites.

I acknowledge that two wrongs don't make a right. Slavery is wrong. Period. However, It's the definition of insanity to blame all slavery on White people considering White people were the ones who ended slavery.

Furthermore, the crusades weren't about conquering land for gold and glory. The first crusade was a response to 400 years of constant invasion by Islam and losing 2/3rds of Christian land.

[–]bazir03SWE 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

For 1200 years, White people were slaves under Muslim masters. Three times as many White people were slaves under Muslims as there were black people slaves under Whites.

What are you talking about, could you provide me with a source to what you mean? Parts of the Iberian peninsula have gone back and forth between the Moors and the Spaniards between about 700 and 1400, while the Ottoman Empire had parts of southeastern europe between about 1500 and 1800. And I don't think the Ottomans took Europeans as slaves, the muslims in Spain could likely have though.

Sounds like you're talking out of your ass.

Also I'm fairly certain that muslims mostly took Africans as slaves and not Europeans.

[–]Qari 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look, I come from a family that lived in Turkey until the genocide. The Ottomans took white slaves in conquest. European slaves were banned in the 1800s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

[–]Redpilledbird 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Muslims in Northern Africa took many european slaves that they captured through raids on Mediterranean shipping- they also made regular raids to Britian and Ireland and took white slaves to Africa. Look it up. They also took black people as slaves in Africa and still do to this day.

[–]vtfsobnfUT 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like you're talking out of your ass.

Sounds like you were educated by people with an agenda.

Start here. I'll provide a source for my claim about White slavery under Muslim masters. But, I'm on break at work right now so that will take a few hours.

[–]eJACKulation 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lad that's just objectively wrong,cmon like you can't go around spreading utter shit because some people might actually believe it.

[–]nitt 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or Mike Pence.

[–]Anal_VacuumFL 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only thing there Pence is against is gay marriage

[–]-StrangerThanFiction 62ポイント63ポイント  (43子コメント)

Two words: extreme vetting

[–]DennisOswineIRL 41ポイント42ポイント  (16子コメント)

I agree. But the left will call it racist and demand you let everyone in.

[–]HartianXFL 59ポイント60ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pretend to listen and do what you were going to do anyways.

[–]youssarianKS 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I.e. what Trump does. A powerful person is someone who does not feel the need to defend or explain himself. He just acts according to his conscience. Political positions aside there is no denying that Trump is a powerful man.

[–]Justice4Scalia 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

But Japan isn't racist

[–]DennisOswineIRL 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

But they aren't white so it's aight.

Us Irish get called racist if we say we don't want mass immigration from Africa or the ME.

We never did anything to them, but still get called slave owners because we're white.

Our coasts were raided by North Africans. People were killed or taken as slaves.

But since we're white we get called racist for not wanting them flooding our little Island.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

[–]Justice4Scalia 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hope you guys have guns in Ireland

[–]DennisOswineIRL 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

We do. But we have very strict gun laws. They are mainly used for hunting.

[–]FuckityMcFuckersen 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just an observation: the Irish seem to be more fun and healthier looking than the Brits

[–]elephant2701UT 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm afraid Japanese are one of the most racist people in existence. They are polite about it though.

source: personal experience

[–]FuckityMcFuckersen 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm afraid they are....

Just the opinion of a simple Gaijin.

[–]hemsae 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

They will. And we'll ignore them. Who cares if they call us racist for caring about border security? We won! No need to rub it in; we just have to go do what we were going to do anyway.

[–]SkittleTittys 12ポイント13ポイント  (12子コメント)

I have an honest question.

Disclaimer: Proud independent voter and wholly against Trump. If you check my post history, you'll find I'm no SJW, and I dislike the arrogance that is suuuper popular on subs like this. But I've got a lot of respect for having earnest dialogue and that's all I've come for. I'm no genius--this is an earnest question.

Question: What kind of vetting, compared to current vetting, are you looking for?

[–]JEnzo94VA 18ポイント19ポイント  (9子コメント)

Totally disavow sharia. Once you are in legally but not a citizen, if you espouse sharia in any way(social media, actions, etc) you are gone forever(permaban and now we've got your fingerprints and DNA). Before you object, being here legally does not confer the same rights as citizens, nor should it. Until you are a citizen, you are a guest that can be given the boot for any reason whatsoever. You must assimilate socially and lingually within a certain timeframe. Remember, we don't need immigrants, they need us. Finally there will be times when unemployment is too high and we don't need any immigrants from anywhere. We take immigrants when it serves us, not them. We also reserve the right to decline immigration from any country where terrorism and terrorist groups are prevelant, regardless of religion. There is plenty of unoccupied territory in places like Syria away from cities where war is waging, where refugee camps can be set up. They do not need to travel to another continent.

[–]CityHunter333 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

The spirit of this response is in the right place, but you're making concessions that 1) don't take into account the fact that Islam encourages deception upon the kafir, and 2) would still leave us open to attacks after said deception has occurred, and admission has been granted. Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way to avoid that risk.

What we really need is accountability. Perhaps we could achieve that by introducing a requirement to have valid, reliable vouchers for each immigrant admitted into the country. Within this voucher system, any born US citizen could personally voucher for an immigrant with the stipulation that they will be held personally responsible for any criminal act committed by the person being admitted. We would see just how open-minded and tolerant our liberal friends truly are when faced with the opportunity to personally voucher, and be held directly responsible, for immigrants looking to immigrate from countries known to harbor terrorists. If you're comfortable enough vouching for someone that you would be willing to tie you and your family's future and wellbeing to that person, then great! Bring them over! If not, well, then you can't really declare others who won't as xenophobic bigots, now can you?

[–]JEnzo94VA 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is a difficult subject and honestly I don't know the solution. I worry about the Kafir and what's happening in Western Europe(Sweden and Germany especially). However, no sane person would take legal responsibility for the actions of another and therefore your system would be a waste of time because no one would ever be able to immigrate(therefore why have a system at all, just ban them based on religion...but that goes against the constitution/freedom of religion). Furthermore, if they can lie about sharia(Kafir) they can claim to be religious christians fleeing persecution. I'm down if we require sponsors for all immigrants but that's a lot to ask of any homegrown citizen.

[–]CityHunter333 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

"However, no sane person would take legal responsibility for the actions of another"

Under this system, I imagine most immigrants would be close family members of vouchers (who again, would be US born citizens - preferably with clean records themselves), people with a strong history of displaying upstanding character, and people who are accomplished and/or favorably recognized in any given professional industry. Herein lies the beauty --we accomplish extreme vetting not by the government, but by the people; we avoid trampling on religious freedoms or the constitution; we maintain an open immigration policy; and we ensure most immigrants will be able to provide some form of contribution to our society upon arrival.

[–]LifeMedicTX 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

The first piece of vetting should be actual documentation of identity. They shouldn't even be able to set foot on our mainland until this is resolved.

Second, background and purpose checking. Affiliate with known anti-American agencies/ideological entities - your out. Have a criminal record - your out.

Just these two items alone aren't being done. That's inexcusable.

I understand your against Trump and see this type of dialogue as the type we should actually be having and how it stays healthy.

[–]-StrangerThanFiction 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. When the FBI and DHS say they can't be properly vetted, (mostly because we have no idea who they really are) why would anyone propose to let in 550% more than we already are?

[–]FuckityMcFuckersen 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Guess what's going on now: no vetting

I like your answer much better

[–]binkbankb0nk 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Could you be a bit more clear? Do you believe that there is no vetting for immigrants?

[–]OuijuWA 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

No way to extremely vet. It's better to cut them all off, really. Like what are they gonna do that's extreme? Type REALLY HARD into their database? These guys don't have any paper or electronic records to speak of either way. It's too dangerous to let them in.

[–]MuntbergCAN 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

You also can't support this and import third worlders who vote overwhelmingly large government. This is the folly of a lot of libertarians.

[–]sophistibaitedARMY 31ポイント32ポイント  (7子コメント)

But but...

"you said religious freeeeeedom!"

[–]LividedFL 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't mind Muslims, I just don't like radical backwards ideas from third world countries.

[–]Admonishor 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I may be incorrect but it seems like the big difference among them is Salafist vs Takfiri, namely the Salafist are the fundamentalist types and the Takfiri the more moderate, 'reform' style. Someone in here can likely elaborate better than I can..

[–]Sock_Monster 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah that doesn't mean you can go all "allahu akbar" every time someone disagrees with you.

[–]LegendaryStickManCA 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where's the aloha snackbar?

[–]Butts_MagooAZ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You fucking bigot! I can't even.

[–]Chained_IcarusGA 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

As an atheist... this. I'm not worried about the "biggotted redneck who loves Jesus" next door in the least. We might argue but his faith and way of life says to let me be "wrong" and that hurting or killing me is a sin.

The quiet college student who very adherently sticks to a faith that says lying to and killing the apostates and godless is good... he scares me.

Not too scared to function of course. I've got my constitutionally given Bear Arms after all.

[–]CapnBlondeBeardNC 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

You'd be surprised about the number of Muslims that are actually for the killing of all these types of people. Check out the polls as they're pretty astounding.

This is coming from a non-believer.

Can't call myself an atheist since most atheists now have a liberalized political view.

[–]TrumpTrainMechanic 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can call yourself an atheist if you are one. You can call yourself agnostic if that better suits you. I am an atheist, republican, and a Trump supporter. I love my fellow Americans whether they are Christians, Jews, Muslims, or none of those. We need to all stick together and keep dangerous radical foreigners from coming here and fucking up our country. Deep vetting with complete documentation should be mandatory. We can't let them jump fences and sell drugs to our kids, fly over and rape our women, or come on vacation or for school and kill our men. Our duty to our fellow citizens is to protect this beautiful country, and its beautiful citizens from all its enemies.

[–]TwoFingerDiscountTX[🍰] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also it's not only rednecks that like guns.

[–]DthBySnuSnuWA 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

Most Muslims are peaceful. The problem is the crazy Muslims have the Holy book to tell them to kill infidels

We need to reform the Holy biok

[–]DennisOswineIRL 23ポイント24ポイント  (7子コメント)

They won't go for that.

The Bible was just as bad, but the Bible changed many times as people became more civilized.

The Quran is believed by Muslims to be the literal word of god. Any attempt to change it, or even the suggestion to change it, would be met with an extreme backlash.

We are in a very fucked up situation because of this book.

[–]Chained_IcarusGA 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Bible got the Lucas Arts' ET treatment. The Quran refuses to even update to vhs quality.

[–]hiYUN7CAN 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's true. There is this muslim guy at my school. He is really a nice guy, but he is totally brainwashed by Islam. He is always like 'praise allah' and puts videos on YouTube about how the Quran is exactly the same as it was 1000 years ago and needs to be listened to. To my interpretation, he is saying it needs to be interpreted literally.

I do believe this guy has the best in mind, but he is consumed by this book. Very worrying, if he ever comes into contact with a radical cleric. You can see how it's so easy to radicalize. Luckily, I don't think this guy is, but he is very vulnerable if the wrong person comes along.

[–]NucaColaMAGA 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well if that's the case there seems to be only one solution that'll solve the problem.

A Holy War.

[–]LegendaryStickManCA 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Realistically, it was the reformation and the enlightenment that declawed Christianity. Judaism went through lots of changes during the middle ages too, with Rabbis varying between mysticism and literal historical approaches to the Torah.

What Islam really needs is more scholarship, philosophy, and science education. When they can live in relative peace long enough to embrace the study of their Holy book without trying to exterminate all the infidels, they will have a chance to get caught up to speed with the rest of the world. Holy wars just create more radicals.

What they abso-fucking-lutely don't need is to be resettled in western nations surrounded by people who they consider to be the reprobate scum of the earth, only fit to be raped, murdered, and enslaved.

[–]DennisOswineIRL 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or just leave them where they are.

The biggest problem I have with Islam is when people try to resettle them in western society.

[–]PatchCodeOH 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's basically my opinion. They have a set location in the world. We don't have to change them. Just quarantine. Total quarantine. If they can't handle the society they live in with the barbarism let them fix it themselves. Letting the "liberal" portion of their society out and move into western society has probably had a worse effect on the middle east than having them shed their blood for their ideas.

[–]youssarianKS 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is actually... a really good and concise argument in favor of not letting in Muslims. I'll need to think on this a bit.

[–]elephant2701UT 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was on r/de the other day and the Muslims there agreed that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with living in Western countries. They argued that you simply cannot combine the two and that leftists who want it to be otherwise have their heads up their asses.

[–]SidneyBechetWI 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

So do all those things and don't import radical muslims.

[–]flat6turboCA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL at least we can agree that everyone should have an AK or AR

[–]AspleniumNLD 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

all muslims want this, if they don't they aren't muslim.

let's remember:

crucify and amputate non-muslims, Quran 8:12, 47:4

kill those who insult islam or mohammed, Quran 33:57

kill anyone who leaves islam, Quran 2:217, 4:89

behead non-muslims, Quran 8:12, 47:4

fight non-muslims, even if you don't want to, Quran 2:216

kill non-muslims for not converting to islam, Quran 9:29

extort non-muslims to keep islam strong, Quran 9:29

[–]BCD06 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think there are lots of Christians who eat pork, get divorced, or wear polyester who could still quite legitimately call themselves Christian.

[–]uncuckyourselfUSAF 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

lie to non-muslims and pretend you're 'moderate' and don't really support these extreme positions Quran 16:106, 3:28

[–]AspleniumNLD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

you forgot pretending these are all taken out of context, even though there's no context in which they're not disgusting.

[–]Pbleadhead 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Entitlement programs also frack things up.

You gunna make tax payers pay the healthcare costs of druggies? then we got a problem.

[–]mastigiaNV 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well, we either try to help them out of their problems medically or we allow them to become even further dependent on our taxes legally. You can't just lock everyone up.

And these people can become perfectly useful and productive members of society once the drug problem is solved.

[–]VincentVanGoghDumbPD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How about "If you don't support a united society of respect for others, you don't belong here"

[–]DrRubotnikMO 196ポイント197ポイント  (19子コメント)

Sounds like Trump's GOP to me. If Democrats would quit dividing people every way imaginable we'd have a pretty unified place here.

[–]Grants91 62ポイント63ポイント  (10子コメント)

We cant just ask liberals to stop dividing people by spewing the words "racist, sexist, islamophobe, bigot, misogynist, homophobe, xenophobe". If we prohibit their entire vocabulary like that then we are essentially taking away their free speech.

[–]PatchCodeOH 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Really for the most part those words have lost power. They're at the point where they're having to flex every bit of power they have left.

Kicking kids out of college for being conservative and proud about it.

Rioting

Voter fraud

Media Censorship

Narrating social norms through Hollywood.

By breaking every one of those remaining powers, or subverting them (like making our own new and entertainment / colleges / open source voting systems with free IP) we will smash the remaining power they have and relegate their movement to the dustbins of history.

[–]LesFuriesCA 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why we have to wage a wider culture war now. Take back our cultural institutions, take back our future.

[–]turanian_552MD 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The *-ism words seem to be all they have left. The classic liberals are gone. FDR and JFK would not recognize the mutant thing that the Democrat party has become.

[–]lizardqueen16 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

FDR was a socialist though. Agree with the rest of your comment.

[–]binkbankb0nk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a lot of people have problems with things not covered in this picture, not the things that are in this picture.

[–]scira 23ポイント24ポイント  (11子コメント)

We have a bit of work on both sides before we get there. Don't forget that Trump is the exception to the GOP rule.

[–]PatchCodeOH 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah, well it's not like we're really republican. We just kind of slid up into party like a virus and are attempting to cause their party to metamorph into something good for the people. Gonna be a fun time eating them alive from the inside.

[–]7HarperSeven 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do you deal with the Mike Pences, Ted Cruzes, Mike Huckabees etc who aren't just content with being free to be whatever Christian they want to be but rather want to shove their version of morality down America's throat?

That's going to be a very messy internal battle in the GOP to make the OP photo a reality for the GOP.

[–]fourthwallcrisisUK 77ポイント78ポイント  (18子コメント)

I love this new movement you guys in the states have. Right wing and independent voters, pro-liberty stances and a genuine attitude of not giving a fuck about race or sexual orientation. No wonder this sub appeals to so many people across the world.

[–]stevedave2020 23ポイント24ポイント  (13子コメント)

no doubt man. I remember in High School the teacher told us that the political scale was linear. The left side of the scale were Commies and the right side were Nazis. Even as a kid I never understood how two diametrically opposed philosophies could murder people. Then I realized, after a shit-ton of years, that the scale also should include a Y-axis and everything made sense.

[–]TheOSCTX 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's almost like we just want to be left to our own devices and allowed to thrive in an open economy.

[–]burn_reddit_burn 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's called "libertarianism" and I love it

I didn't initially think Trump would be the one to fulfill Ron Paul's legacy, but I'll take it!

[–]LordbrowningNJ 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed! We love freedom in America and anyone who would kill another for exercising their freedom can GTFO.

  • You wanna kill gays for being gay? GTFO!
  • You wanna kill a man for wearing woman's clothes and taking hormones? GTFO!
  • You wanna kill Christians for worshiping Christ? GTFO!
  • You wanna kill Muslims for worshiping Allah? GTFO!
  • You wanna kill Atheists for worshiping nothing? GTFO!

Bottom line is we accept all here as long as they agree to play by our rules. We don't want a theocracy be it christian, muslim or otherwise and if you try to take our rights away you will be very very sorry.

[–]skeletorcaresCO 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

You realize this is what being libertarian is right?

[–]sungenieCO 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shhh. Don't tell anyone. Let's just let it happen.

[–]dammittohell 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I used to hang out in the libertarian sub a lot, but the overwhelming stance on immigration seemed to be "open borders". Is that really the case, or was I misreading the vibe there?

[–]Nunya-Business-Man 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

there seems to be a couple of factions with those who have libertarian views...a nationalist kind of libertarian and then the globalist libertarian.

[–]qa2PA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gary Johnson is a disgrace to the libertarian party with his globalist pro TPP open borders agenda.

[–]MNYGAMA 59ポイント60ポイント  (6子コメント)

We also have the freedom to dislike those things.

Just don't kill anyone that you don't like, Mohammed.

[–]gaelorianIL 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dislike all you want just keep the legislature out of it

[–]OuijuWA 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's racist. they deserve to cut your head off for offending them.

[–]TheDonaldWonPA 61ポイント62ポイント  (17子コメント)

Liberals heads exploding in 3...2...1...

[–]portapottypatty 58ポイント59ポイント  (15子コメント)

I'm a liberal and this is the first Donald post I've upvoted. Not exactly exploding... but glad to see there are some things we agree on.

[–]qa2PA 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can tell you that Trump and his supporters are definitely a little rough around the edges and don't always choose the most sensitive words to explain things.... but our number one goal is Americans. Make life better for Americans. Don't care if you're black, white, yellow, purple, gay, trans, liberal, conservative.... as long you love America and want to contribute in making America a better place we support you.

[–]Googoo_G_JoobIA 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am very liberal in the classical sense. A social and market progressive- anarch-capitalism is my ideal idea of society. The highest in personal individual freedoms!

[–]kevinS-MA 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

i got mega downvoted in that /r/murica thread with the same title for saying that we should uphold the constitution in enforcing strong borders rofl

https://www.reddit.com/r/MURICA/comments/5gh0yu/how_to_properly_murica/das8b5x/

[–]little_gamieFL 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Do these people really think that islam is not only a race but that its racist to not want them flooding in?

Jesus.

[–]theorymeltfoolGA 37ポイント38ポイント  (3子コメント)

IF WE UPVOTE THIS LIBERALS WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE'RE A BUNCH OF RACIST, MYSOGINIST, HOMOPHOBIC DEPLORABLES.

They will anyways, of course :)

[–]The_CapuletPD 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

The US flag has become a symbol of racism and misogyny, didn't you know?

[–]Larry7766CAN 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because the rabble masters wanna weaken the strong before they put all the cattle into pens,

[–]Allen_R24MAGA 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trumps America basically.

[–]joepa_knew 19ポイント20ポイント  (5子コメント)

This election has forced me to come off a hardline stance on so many viewpoints I have. It's not like I've flipped my position, I've definitely revisited things and I think it's made me a more well rounded person.

My old position regarding Caitlyn Jenner, for instance, was this one. "No, you're not a woman."

Simple biology won't let me come down from that. The difference between "gender" and "sex" is a distinction that was never mean to be the "scientific" vehicle to accommodate a series of surgical procedures that didn't even exist 50 years ago.

But I asked myself, if I met this person in real life, would I actually have the gall to treat them as a male when they've done everything they can to present themselves as the opposite?

No. If I met Caitlyn Jenner in real life, I would treat her like a woman, simply out of my inherent respect and concern for their happiness. It's got nothing to do with SJWs... they actually make me want to be an asshole just to throw it in their face. They actually make the situation worse for people like Caitlyn because of how they push people with a "take it or leave it" totalitarian approach.

But if I see someone who walks, talks, and acts like a woman, I'll treat them like a woman to the extent that I reasonably can.

It doesn't mean I've got nothing to say if the situation begs the question. (thinking of transgender boxers obliterating women, and I've seen at least one example of someone dressed as a woman in all regards... but then sporting a beard...).

But there's definitely worse than Jenner wearing moderate and relatively reserved women's attire.

I'll save my "cause an awkward situation because I need to be real for a sec" social points for when I see that.

The "I sexually identify as an A1 warthog attack heliocopter" is pertinent because it's not even that hyperbolic. Furry shit, anime shit, free the nipple and public nudity shit, people passing off sex props for public attire, spirit cooking bitches playing with lamb's blood... this shit used to be properly called hedonism.

And now that it's becoming more and more common, we've seen examples where even more nefarious shit (pedophilia) could be nesting in these "progressive" social currents.

Focusing on an otherwise normal clothing choices because they used to be wearing clothing of the opposite gender... doesn't get you far because you're attacking something where the bad consequences are too attenuated when you've got real examples of flagrant abuse of our growing social acceptance.

As such, it would make you look more like an asshole than it would convince anyone any which way about the subject.

[–]stevedave2020 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

damn dude, i love me some wall of text and yours was, well, let's just say a great time diving into your mind. MAGA!

[–]joepa_knew 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks... just trying to figure out where I stand as much as the next navigator

[–]BobGeese 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the future of the Republican Party. I'm all for it.

[–]joey_dhENG 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

even libcucks like me can get on board with this post

[–]Reck_yoUSA 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, I call this the GNP (Grand New Party). The "morals and values" of the GOP (Shapiro/Levin/etc) are mostly dead.

They want to slander anyone who doesn't agree with their moral superiority as "alt-right" racists. Fuck that, we're the GNP, we're moving on.

[–]owlcammaga 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

FUCK YES BONG RIPS AND GUNS FOR EVERYONE!

[–]calidefender 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Live and let live has always been the true conservative small government message.

[–]major_tom38 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is orignally why I called myself a liberal. The left used to be all about giving people the freedom to be who they wanted to be and speak their mind. Now it's all about controlling what you wear, what you say and what you can believe in. I struggly with some of the things Milo, Coulter and even Trump believe in but at least they are setting an example and speaking their minds without being afraid of being called a racist or a bigot.

[–]TheyBernedTheirCashFL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just don't harass other people

[–]mufftrader 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

we should all be free to do whatever we want as long as we dont interfere with other right to do the same.

[–]tttsss123 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP you forgot to segregate by race and gender in your meme. How will the left know what you're talking about?

[–]j420790 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

Sure, as long as I am allowed to refuse to bake a cake at the 'two fellas next door"'s wedding without getting my life destroyed by an SJW mob.

[–]LabelsAreDeplorableTX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't mind baking the cake, but now you can quote that CEO from 1st in SEO for refusing to do business with Trump supporters.

[–]TheeloutCAN 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really don't think anyone here disagrees with this.

[–]truffs1010 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're smoking a bowl if you reckon they'll let you smoke a bowl. It ain't gonna happen, its gonna be escalated.

[–]UrdnotKeanuWreaves 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trump is for state's rights, the out dated views of his cabinet picks for unrelated positions are irrelevant.

[–]truthbombs22 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That all sounds great but leftist fucked the whole thing up.

[–]CarbolicSmokeBalls 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love it. This is the USA I love.

[–]PonchoKittyCAP 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Gay marriage was never illegal, it just was never supported by the state.

[–]FuckityMcFuckersen 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

But it's much better that gay rights are officially recognized--and it doesn't take away from anyone

[–]holdenman2000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

MORE GIRLS FOR THE STRAIGHT GUYS WOOO!!!

[–]basedbeaner 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love gays. I love atheists. I'm a straight Christian. I love Americans!!!

[–]Rawrination 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck yes! Praise Jesus and pass the ammunition!

[–]what_34WI 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

this needs to get to /all. Trump is incredibly misunderstood.

[–]MAGAthree 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The people are fine, it's their agenda that I often have a problem. My personal philosophy is if it doesn't cost me any money, freedom, or harm I'm okay with it. Two ladies cleaning their guns high as fuck while having sex at the alter of cthulhu does none of these things.

[–]bljwmn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll pass on dope smoking neighbors, but otherwise don't care if they live in the big city.

[–]throwawaymemetrump 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

And also, let the muslims be muslims.

Right?

[–]Has_Anger_Problems 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure, as long as they aren't getting in the way of another person's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Problem is they've proven they can't exactly behave. So...

[–]yerPalSalTN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

to the top to the top to the top!

[–]donkey_democrat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to be a Debbie downer or whatever but cuckservatives are ones like jeb bush who aren't socially conservative, just fiscally

[–]Frisky-Fox 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now that is an America I can get behind!!

[–]Creeporama 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I tried to congratulate the to fellas next door but they told me to fuk off because of the Trump signs on my lawn.

[–]Pinpointing 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is great. America is about FREEDOM!

[–]neomt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The world would be a whole lot better if more people minded their own fucking business more often.

[–]nimblepimple 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love seeing this at the top of our sub today. The media can call us all white nationalists all day, but they no longer control information flows in this country, and thinking people will come here for themselves to see they are being lied to.

[–]Mr_fox2001 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If everyone got on and were all friendly the left wouldn't like it because who would they get to call racist then. They need to have their little black and brown pets that couldn't possibly prosper without their help.

[–]itzhyde 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

as long as you dont give freedom to impose sharia, run brothels using people who dont want and havent agreed to partake in it, or have paedophile networks preying on children.

[–]cobra_viperWI 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because the democrat party is not about freedom.

I support every thing stated. The democrats? They absolutely despise one very specific on on that post.

[–]megabop 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

and let the muslim be muslims :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

no just kidding. we dont let people be rapists and murderers, thats morally wrong.

[–]Techno_HamsterNJ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how the left accuses us of hating gays but they support Islam which we all know what muslims do to gays and women.

[–]CantBeStumpedCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

BUT YOU CAN'T SUPPORT ORANGE HITLER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[–]BigBillDoyle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone assumes that everyone was born with the right to do anything. You are owed nothing, you are born with nothing. Life is what you make of it.