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[–]no_face 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are just under 32M account records.

About 30M records have NULL in all columns except City, Zip and birthdate Unless you are from a small town, the City + birthdate does not mean much. Also, it could easily be a random made-up value.

About 2M records with Full name, Address, zip, phone number, birthdate. These folks are screwed

186K paid deletes

Apparently, there are docs that show revenue growth by year (not sure if its just percent or actual numbers) but apparently, the site is real, the members are real, they also released credit card transaction data showing real revenue.

[–]1nzgs 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much all the users are male. You aren't going to see an influx of anything, these chumps are just fodder now to the divorce industry.

[–]pilledwillingly 123ポイント124ポイント  (6子コメント)

Buy shares in antidepressant and rope manufacture and distribution.

[–]UGoBoom 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sad that there's truth to that.

[–]jaredschaffer27 220ポイント221ポイント  (38子コメント)

What a fucking time to be alive.

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    [–]yaysmr 56ポイント57ポイント  (31子コメント)

    My buddy who graduated law school a year and some odd months ago is strongly considering this path simply because its a guaranteed paycheck and you don't have to feel bad about ruining someone's life... if they come to you they're already pretty fucking ruined, just trying to figure out a path forward.

    I just told him to make sure he mainly represents husbands.

    [–][deleted] 35ポイント36ポイント  (12子コメント)

    especially with gay marriage legal everywhere in the U.S. now

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      [–]Gawernator 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

      yeah and then how much of the 1-3% even gets married, a smaller number.. and how many of that group ever get divorced?

      [–]systemshock869 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

      And how many of those are despicable enough to completely fuck over their long-term partner because feeeeellllzzzz?

      [–]Gawernator 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Maybe a few hundred at that point

      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I'm pretty sure gay man couples don't have those problems at least nearly as much as lesbian women couples though... you got two fucking crazy dykes with their finger on the nuclear launch button at any time because of feelz.

      [–]Gawernator 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I've actually really been wondering how RPT applies to homosexuals. .....mind blown

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        [–]Gawernator 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        And then they complain about their stereotype of promiscuity

        [–]HeadingRed 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Except lesbians have a much higher divorce rate then gay men. You know, because of hetrosexual male societal constructs.

        [–]cariboo_j 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Nothing to do with women being less loyal and more easily dissatisfied... Nope. Must be the patriarchy's fault.

        [–]HeadingRed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Can't begin to tell you how guilty I feel about this and how much it keeps me up at night.

        [–]Reddthrown 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

        Representing mainly husbands would be super depressing.

        [–]miladmaaan 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Representing wives would be worse... You'd actually feel bad about your own work.

        [–]imapirateking 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

        But you'd probably make crazy bank

        [–]rcglinsk 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It really depends on what state you practice in.

        • Community property state (there are 9). These divorces can't generate too much money for attorneys because the marital estate is simply divided in half. If the parties can't agree how to do so the judge can split the baby however they see fit and that's the end of it.

        • Equitable distribution states with clear and well established laws. This scenario favors the wife's attorney as they can take a cut of whatever they manage to get out of the estate. Husband's attorney is going to get paid by the hour to help him avoid getting ripped off too badly. The first is inherently more lucrative.

        • Equitable distribution state with really murky and unclear law (say like Florida). In this situation it's in the attorneys' best interest to drag the proceedings out as long as possible as they bleed the estate dry with fees. If they're cooperative enough neither the wife's or the husband's attorney will necessarily make a lot more than the other. Honor among thieves and all.

        [–]BePrivateGirl 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        My comment is so lame: but this is exactly the plot of Jim Carrey's Liar Liar

        [–]EvrythingISayIsRight 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        You'd win a lot more though, since the courts always favor women anyway.

        [–]SyllableLogic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It's like winning a race against someone who's bound and gagged behind the starting line. You win but how exactly were you ever going to lose?

        [–]SoSaltyDoe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Simply anecdotal, but my girlfriend's father was a divorce attorney and from what he said, that shit drains you. A lot of the husbands would show up at his office and ream him out when they got cleaned out in divorces (not that there was a whole lot he could do in a lot of cases). Divorces get downright nasty, and the kids get the blunt end of it. You couldn't pay me enough to do that job.

        [–]Hatorader 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

        I don't think there are actually that many real users of the site.

        [–]TheOboeMan 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Oh, I think you're probably wrong. There are probably a lot more guys because women don't have to try to cheat. They can just go sit in a bar.

        [–]erictron 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        yeah, I saw from the press release it was 95% men. That means there were probably a lot of bots and fake users. Not surprising.

        [–]meng88 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I once met a female divorce attorney - she told me she stays the hell away from representing wives because they were all crazy.

        [–]Squeezymypenisy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Hope he carries a concealed permit. Every family lawyer I know gets the occasional threat. It makes money though.

        [–]Jani1157 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

        I'm sorry, what's happening here?

        [–]imapirateking 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I thinks he's referring to a large amount of men becoming aware that their wives are cheating but it's hard to tell

        [–]halvin_and_cobbes 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

        i thought the site was mostly cheating men

        [–]NineInchPitchfork 70ポイント71ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I will take bets with my side being that a whole lot of fuck all happens.

        [–]rockumsockumrobots[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I think you may be right. I want to believe.

        [–]Moldy_Gecko 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I'm with you on this. Nobody cares and unless the media spreads it like wildfire, nobody will look into it.

        [–][deleted] 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

        The meedja circus will focus on the males, not the females.

        [–]LubricatingOil 86ポイント87ポイント  (7子コメント)

        This is going to be glorious.

        [–]jaredschaffer27 43ポイント44ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I think of the simpering beta males who might lose their relationship or marriage for signing up to the site. I then think that some percentage of these guys who attempted to have an affair failed at doing so. Getting broken up with for trying and failing to cheat is just delicious.

        [–]TheOboeMan 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

        To be fair, I'd break up with a woman who tried and failed to cheat.

        [–]eclipsedbythemoon 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Naturally, instantaneously. But then you'd wonder why you were with a women who failed in what should be a cake-walk for her.

        [–]recon_johnny 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Max you get is 4 responses. Must be limited. Pirate Bay says they have the entire list as a torrent....

        [–]truthiesttruth 62ポイント63ポイント  (53子コメント)

        From the Torrent description:

        Avid Life Media has failed to take down Ashley Madison and Established Men. We have explained the fraud, deceit, and stupidity of ALM and their members. Now everyone gets to see their data. Find someone you know in here? Keep in mind the site is a scam with thousands of fake female profiles. See ashley madison fake profile lawsuit; 90-95% of actual users are male. Chances are your man signed up on the world's biggest affair site, but never had one. He just tried to. If that distinction matters. Find yourself in here? It was ALM that failed you and lied to you. Prosecute them and claim damages. Then move on with your life. Learn your lesson and make amends. Embarrassing now, but you'll get over it.

        So theres not going to be much opportunity for datamining whore behavior/tendencies/preferences since most of the female profiles are fake.

        I can just see the excuse that 5-10% of users (females) will be using: "It wasnt me! It was a fake profile". Well apparently theres CC numbers too so who knows how far the excuses will go.

        This leak just exposed tens of thousands of men. A lot of shitty marriages just received their death sentence!

        Divorce lawyers are going to be popping bottles tonight!

        Will you have the guts to search for your brother/father?

        [–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 152ポイント153ポイント  (42子コメント)

        Truth be told, I think it's going to be a majority actual men. Women just don't have that much of a "need" to use a site like this. Women can find guys to cheat with just walking to the store.

        [–]rockumsockumrobots[S] 60ポイント61ポイント  (35子コメント)

        Underrated post. Unfortunately, this will probably just be used as another universal shaming tactic against men and another nail in the coffin for marriage.

        As you said, all it takes to cheat for a woman is to simply remove her ring for an hour or two.

        [–]Questionablechoice 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

        As someone who has banged a couple engaged and married women sometimes they don't bother to remove the ring.

        [–]holytrpbatman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Can confirm. Sometimes they like to joke about it. Sometimes they call again after the wedding.

        [–]like_a_ghost 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

        The article I read stated that the hackers leaked info from Ashley Madison and a sugar daddy website owned by the same company. It went on to state that the same company also had a "cougar" website that was not attacked....I wonder why.

        [–]Rathadin 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Because the keyboard warriors who did this are omega males, that's why. They damn sure didn't do this as some TRP / Manosphere plot. They're manginas of the highest order.

        [–]BallisticTherapy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        all it takes to cheat for a woman is to simply remove her ring for an hour or two.

        I've never seen a ring block a hole.

        [–]Moldy_Gecko 7ポイント8ポイント  (28子コメント)

        I prefer them to keep the ring on, honestly.

        [–]Glenbert 2ポイント3ポイント  (25子コメント)

        I'll never understand why some guys like being reminded of the other dicks that have been inside of what they are fucking.

        [–]eclipsedbythemoon 18ポイント19ポイント  (15子コメント)

        There's a sick thrill in the destruction of something, or the theft of someone else's woman. If she cuckolds him with you, you get offspring with no investment on your part. Seems like an evolutionarily useful thing to encourage.

        [–][deleted] 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

        You obviously like to go full on Frodo and destroy their ring?

        [–]Rathadin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I love breaking out the Maximus lube and destroying that ring...

        [–]eclipsedbythemoon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        If I could catch a ride on a mega-eagle the moment I was done that would be great.

        [–]Glenbert 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

        It's possible, but there's a limit to this. Most men will actually stop, mid-fuck, if a woman calls them the wrong name. That's some deep rooted stuff right there and much more aligned with the K-selection evolutionary strategy that's brought us to this point.

        [–]eclipsedbythemoon 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

        True, but to me that smells more of fear of being cuckolded, which presumes you have already invested in them. I'm not sure I'd care if a hookup called me another name, ring or not.

        [–]Gunnilingus 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Shit, I almost always give a fake name to hookups anyway. Why risk the potential backlash from a crazy being able to find you on social media, or worse, IRL?

        [–]Glenbert 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

        This is probably true as well. And looking back on it, I can't even recall if any hookup I'd ever been with called me by another name.

        But let's clarify one thing. That fear of being cuckolded is a very legitimate survival instinct on par with the fear of being eaten by lions. Men who lack that fear, at least on some very deep level, aren't really fit to pass on their genes, because they are less likely to. Let's put it this way, all of our ancestors successfully avoided being cuckolded. It's in our DNA.

        It isn't, as feminists would have you believe, some social construct.

        [–]FinallyRed 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Yes but our ancestors certainly benefitted by the actions of noble cuckolds. Could males have evolved such that the least fit are destined to care for the offspring of the more fit?

        [–]eclipsedbythemoon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I hear you. It's possibly the scariest thing I can think of. I'd say thank Zeus for genetic testing but if rumours are true it has to be done a) before signing the birth cert b) before spending any amount of time with the child and c) somewhere other than France/Germany.

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          [–]Glenbert 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Yes. We've all read the side bar and understand how women think.

          [–]Moldy_Gecko 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's a power and challenge thing for me. It's not like they are taking their ring off and I tell them to keep it on. But if they don't have the ring on, I look at them almost as if they were single. But if we fuck with the ring on, it feels like I've got more power and control over his wife than he does. Also, I feel like girls that leave it on do it less often and I'm the one that was able to drop their panties (that's probably just in my head though).

          [–]NineInchPitchfork 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          < prefer them to keep the ring on

          Especially for hand jobs; that's my fetish.

          [–]Philhelm 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Rule number 1 for giving a hand job: use your mouth.

          [–][deleted] 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's not exactly what's happening here. The fact is that men pay to do anything on Ashley Madison, but women get in free. Some women pay for added privileges, but they are a small minority. Since the hackers grabbed credit card info, what they have is a list of mostly male users.

          [–]I_is_the_best 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The guy who invented AM is a genious. Tell men there are lots of horny bitches looking for some fun. Pay us to get in. Since it's a dating site no one guarantees anything.

          Flawless idea and execution.

          Similary impressive are all the sexchats. Profiting from whores and losers who pay for shows. In the past you had to feed, house and micromanage/keep in line your whores. Now sluts do it all for free and you get steady income.

          Oh and this leak isn't huge or anything. There have been thousands of leaks and that stuff is still out there and girls are not very security concious so it's common for them to use one password for 10 years and for everything. One day you look up the innocent looking girl from the office and it turns up she could teach sasha grey a thing or two.

          [–]1Jaereth 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I read it was like 95% guys on there anyway.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's got more sausage than Oktoberfest

          [–]1aguy01 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Not to mention it is far easier and less risky to fuck some random guy in another town than it is to jump through all these hoops from online dating.

          [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 23ポイント24ポイント  (7子コメント)

          I can just see the excuse that 5-10% of users (females) will be using: "It wasnt me! It was a fake profile".

          Well a girl can't let a little thing like the truth stop her getting her way now can she?

          [–]truthiesttruth 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

          To be honest I believe the media is going to adopt a male centric/focused narrative regarding this release, as they should given the m/f ratio of the AM userbase.

          What this will do is expose tens of thousands of men to the nastiness of the divorce court, thousands of men will lose their homes and fortunes because they chose to cheat rather than end it.

          Protip: If you are in the DB, go completely dark. Data miners are going to come looking for the wealthiest individuals in the leak and you guys can expect to get blackmailed.

          [–]Glenbert 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Who's to say any of these profiles are real?

          It is phenomenally easy to create a fake profile based on the publicly available information of a real person.

          [–]eclipsedbythemoon 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

          There's talk of credit card numbers, which could be copied but is a level harder than just faking names/photos.

          [–]Nebulose11 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Worked at blockbuster as a teen. Credit cards numbers, names, addresses, and telephone numbers, that people would give away for a 5 dollar movie. It was everything necessary to steal an identity or three thousand.

          [–]Glenbert 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          That is harder... But I just ran test@gmail.com through one of the search engines that just came online and it came back positive. Who is test@gmail.com and why was he cheating on Mrs. Test?

          [–]eclipsedbythemoon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I have the dumps, I'll poke around them tomorrow as I don't much trust the media's reporting.

          [–]Glenbert 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Plot twist... the dumps are 100% real and now the Illuminati is coming to get you.

          [–]Patranus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          So a bunch of men are going to get caught for being on the site and they didn't even get sex out of it. LOL.

          [–]liquid-snake 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I felt a great disturbance, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced

          [–]Rathadin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Yeah, they gonna be silent in that goddamn divorce court, 'cause you won't be able to say shit when they're popping out full name, address, zip, phone number, birthdate, and GPS data on you.

          The only thing some of these people didn't have were pictures of them actively signing up.

          [–]BeefiestName 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Aw. Resource limit reached ;-(

          Hopefully it will be mirrored.

          [–]WhiteKnight49 30ポイント31ポイント  (20子コメント)

          Lol, here you go: http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/ashley-madison-users.html

          41, female, California, married with kids I did get what I wanted. Most of the men were very polite and respectful. They understood boundaries, but in bed they were nice and rough. I have tried with my husband, but he is just not rough enough with me — he cannot be forceful enough or make me do some of the things I really want to do. I have tried. He simply can't be that degrading to me. I like it rough; I like being smacked. I get off on being called a cunt or a slut. Humiliation turns me on. I don't know why that's hot to me. Should I blame my dad? I just enjoy the way it feels when a man treats me like that, enjoys my body, and then is done. And it makes sex with my husband different because it's more sensual, more caring.

          [–]RemyPrice 75ポイント76ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Let's not forget this part:

          I have a regular group of guys I meet with, and they mostly keep me satisfied. I have considered asking my husband for an open relationship, but I don't think I could handle him being with other women.

          What a cunt.

          [–]SinisterSwindler 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Selfish bottom of the pit whore, AWALT.

          [–]eclipsedbythemoon 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Meh. Valid strategy. Don't hate the player...

          [–][deleted] 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

          No, that's exactly what she is. Whores like her have ruined fellow men's lives.

          [–]eclipsedbythemoon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I know, and I don't want to sound like I'm belittling their suffering or encouraging her action, but the RP-truth is that these things can and do happen, these woman do exist and can emerge from previously 'good' women. My takeaway has always been that we should use RP knowledge to lower those odds. Read enough of the sub though and you'll still see cases of text-book application that end up sour.

          Honestly, having so many FRs, horror stories, and just plain raw data is what has shifted my mind out of BP 'magical unicorn' / 'how could she?'/'what a monster' mode into viewing relationships as stochastic systems. You can massage your odds, do your best, but you're never really safe.

          [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          AWALT only because their pussy husbands let them be that way. The AWALT here is not that all women want to fuck over their boyfriends, it's that pussy boyfriends get fucked around on.

          [–]MrEiffel 41ポイント42ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Should I blame my dad?

          Da fuck...

          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

          It's always a man's fault. Women are constantly telling us that they are too weak, too incapable, and too pressured to be anything other than bystanders in their own lives.

          It's about time we listened to them and took away their rights. They're practically begging us to.

          [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

          It's about time we listened to them and took away their rights. They're practically begging us to.

          Agreed, but as far as execution goes, I believe only extreme indoctrination of fearful ideology like religion can convince people to do this, not logic and exposing the reality of intergender dynamics. Simply too many betas, manginas, whiteknights, and people indoctrinated into believing in equality.

          [–]1aguy01 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The problem is the inherent "Women are wonderful" effect. It's an emotional tendency to view women as better than they are, so you need another emotional trigger, like fear of God, to reign that in.

          [–]aa223 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

          But then if you do you are oppressing them and taking away their independence. Women are never going to satisfied whether we go back to the early 1900's or now where they have the lion's share of being an endangered species.

          [–]Venkas 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I said the same thing, smh.

          [–]zuk1 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's amazing how people still doubt TRP.

          Once you see the light you see examples and confirmation everywhere.

          [–]Special Olympianmakethemsayayy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Should I blame my dad?

          Anyone but yourself sweetheart.

          [–]greatGoD67 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I wouldn't be surprised if this was just because the hackers were tired of the annoying Ashley Madison ads on porn hub.

          [–]MetacognitiveMan 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

          Funny the hackers want Ashley Madison and Established Male taken down but no mention of Cougar Life.

          [–]Squabbles123 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Didn't the hackers state that their stolen data shows that 90-95% of the user base was all men?

          [–]halvin_and_cobbes 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

          don't tell this sub though

          [–]One_friendship_plz 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

          The world was getting overpopulated anyway, mass killings & suicides incoming.

          Today is a good day to be a divorce lawyer, any men that still don't know what career they want..well now you know.

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            [–]Kitosaki 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            :( not everyone working for the government is bad

            [–]libglip 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            But working there can make you that way. Lord Acton had it right.

            [–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

            so basically 99% male cheating site has been exposed and everyone is circlejerking and pretending woman are behind it?

            [–][deleted] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This should be properly advertized.

            [–]dbic 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

            [–]terabyter9000 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

            Are they all banging the same 5% of women? That seems like an odd percentage to have.

            [–]FrameWalker 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

            95% of men are there aren't getting any

            [–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I paid £50 to see what it was all about. It was full of spam bots, web cam sex workers, fake profiles (most likely employed by AM), and time wasters.

            [–]Uptonogood 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

            That is true for all dating sites. Online dating is a huge scam if you're not a female or objectively alpha.

            Actually this applies to a shitload of stuff like nightclubs, edm and the like.

            [–]Barrebaron 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

            I just love the fact that peple already found .gov and .va (Vatican city) email's in the info dump.

            [–]ThrowAway652478 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Why would anyone register a .gov address? People are retarded.

            [–]Barrebaron 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            There are even .mil (usa military) mails in it.

            [–]Glenbert 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

            The people who are "finding" Vatican City emails are pretty stupid. I saw some posted on Twitter and they were all related to Virginia universities and levels of government. How can you be smart enough to hack a huge website but too stupid to know that Virginia exists?

            [–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

            Or a lot of cucked blue pill men are gonna deal with it and get cucked.

            This could easily go the other way entirely, especially living in the era of women pushing for poly/open/cuck situations to be socially accepted.

            Face it, 90% of these men got cucked because they're blue pill and most of them are gonna stay that way... if anything, this will help further the push toward mainstream, open cucking for blue pillers.

            [–]Glenbert 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "...and it was when I finally saw my wife's name on the Ashley Madison list that I realized I had actually been 'polyamorous' my entire life. Now, I love polyamory. It gives me time to catch up on projects and hang out with the kids, by myself. Of course, there both taller than me now."

            [–]BlackHeart89 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

            There is a difference between being blue pill and being a bitch. Even in my blue pill days, I was never okay with sharing my woman under any circumstances.

            edit: Corrections

            [–]Philhelm 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Agreed. People seem to forget that not every man short of Atilla the Hun is a fucking beta bitch.

            [–]my_redpill_account 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

            I see them going to marriage counseling, she plays the "I'm sorry" card and goes back to fucking men on the side a week later

            [–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

            "Open relationship" = she fucks dudes, he jerks off alone

            [–]1Claude_Reborn 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Saw that happen to a lot of guys when I used to hang around the poly community.

            It was hilarious.

            [–]ThrowAway652478 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

            It's pathetic. Then again, I've heard women are attracted to married men. I'm surprised it doesn't work out better for them.

            [–]chaosmech 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            If I had to guess, it's because getting cucked by other guys firmly labels you as beta. If you can't keep your woman locked down, you're not alpha enough for her. Why would you be alpha enough for them?

            That's my guess, take it for what it's worth.

            [–]my_redpill_account 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Well, women see a male who has/is with other women as desirable. Another woman is with/been with him so he's good enough as a potential mate (for offspring or whatever) There is way more that can/goes into it I don't have the resources to offer you on it.

            You ever notice the whole "how come when I'm with someone girls all want me, but when I'm single, no girl wants me?" phenomenon? I've noticed it myself, and it makes sense.

            [–]my_redpill_account 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            well shes a woman, sex is way too easy for her to obtain. The guy will beta bob and be like oh yeah love my wife wouldn't hurt her! (or hamster something like that).

            anyway the guy wouldn't be able to talk to other women. He's too puss to do it. The approach and such would be a failure. When you're that much of a wimp, hes lucky his woman that fucks other guys even was attracted to him enough to date him in the first place. Guy has no chance in a poly relationship.

            [–]1NV0K3R 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Really this only contributes to one outstanding idea:

            "Why are so many men trying to escape their marriage through infidelity and affairs?"

            The answer to that, we've been lied to about marriage, about women, and about love. I still think we will see a good influx mainly because the men will ideally be free from their shit marriage and begin to wonder "maybe there's something I can do to avoid this, maybe I can LEARN from my mistakes".

            It's a crapshoot, but worth a thought.

            [–]emblasochist 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Won't happen. The metaphor for this mentality and the Matrix's unplugging breaks down catastrophically in one key place; people must be looking for the lie in this life before they can be welcomed into the fold, whereas in the movie, Neo had no problems accepting that the Matrix was real, and then Trinity brought him in and Morpheus showed him what's behind the curtain. If you try to show them what's behind the curtain before they start to see something's wrong for themselves, they double down on the blue and never fathom that it's not real. That's why you don't talk about TRP.

            [–]1NV0K3R 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            people must be looking for the lie in this life

            But isn't that just it? Their life is their marriage, an unhappy justification of what the government and media tell you that you should do. Once that crutch is lifted away, while many will still revert to that lifestyle since it's the only thing they know, others will question if it was really the only path to take. THEN and only then will they think "wow, could I be in the Matrix after all?"

            [–]Uptonogood 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            That's why I think they filled Zion with black people in the movies. Because people actively benefiting from the system, very hardly will admit it's a fake.

            Same as that kid that freed himself from the matrix in the anime and appeared on the movie sequels. Obviously he was the bullied nerd. You can guarantee that if he was a jock, he would have no reason to suspect anything was wrong in the first place.

            That applies to us as well. The only reason most of us discovered TRP, is because the system was making us miserable enough for us to perceive something was wrong.

            A happy slave has no reason to suspect slavery is wrong.

            [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            wow, that was really insightful. I have been aware of this phenomenon, but you expanded a little more and fleshed it out. I'd give ya gold, but you'll have to just take an upvote instead.

            [–]1DRMMR76 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The "95% male" thing is going to be largely single men, while all of the women are going to be married. It's a dating site like any other no matter who it claims to cater to. The userbase will be single men and attached women, with a tiny smattering of attached men and single women as outliers, just like every single other dating site out there.

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              [–][deleted] 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

              Yes. Its the decades old "DESPARATE LOCAL HOUSEWIFES NEED DICK" porn-site-banner-ad scam, just with a corporate tier marketing budget behind it.

              To cover their asses they outright admit the site uses fake profiles in their terms and conditions:

              You acknowledge and agree that some of the profiles posted on the Site are associated with our “Ashley’s AngelsTM” and may be fictitious. The purpose of our Ashley’s AngelsTM is to provide entertainment, to allow you to explore our Services and to promote greater participation in our Services. Ashley’s AngelsTM attempt to simulate communications with real members to encourage more conversation and interaction with users.

              [–]Elodrian 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I'm guessing that's not paragraph 1a of the EULA.

              [–]drallcom3 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Interesting. So their EULA practically admits to scamming.

              [–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

              They deserve everything that's happening to them

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                [–]Eddie_Hitler 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Most of these "hookup" sites are, the same usually going for Craigslist too.

                If you want a genuine chance of meeting legit women online, then go for a reputable dating site and let things run their course. Or try stuff like Citysocializer, Facebook, even Tinder.

                [–]1WardlyHasted 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                As the majority of the users are male, I can see the MSM having a field day with this one. Just more ammunition to use in the war against men.

                However, I bet if they were to ask each of these men how often they had sex with their wives, you would find that they were in dead bedroom relationships, or at the very most getting duty sex every couple months.

                Not that this fact would stop anyone from villainizing the men for feeling 'entitled to sex with their wives'.

                [–]Special Olympianmakethemsayayy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                lol such a joke, why the fuck would you get married if you don't even get a guarantee to pussy? you literally get nothing out of it.

                [–]Apostrophe 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                A married SNP MP today said she is the victim of a smear campaign after her email address was one of millions released in a data hack on infidelity website Ashley Madison.

                She said: 'I'm absolutely heartbroken. I'm married and would never do something like this. It must be malicious. I never knew I had enemies'.

                [–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Lol! I'm sure the men on that list are all cheating scum, but the women are innocent and had their email addresses stolen.

                [–]rockumsockumrobots[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The wonderful thing about this, is that this has nothing to do with good or evil. This has to do with irrefutable facts, including private credit card transactions that would only be possible if provided by the woman herself.

                There is nothing more rewarding than watching a hamster try and fight something so immovable as an axiom or demonstrable evidence.

                [–]Modredpillschool[M] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                General Moderator's note: Please do not link to source of leak, copies or torrents of leak, or any direct link where leak can be sourced. Thank you!

                [–]rockumsockumrobots[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Hey. I'm sorry for taking so long to remove the link. It's gone now.

                [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                A generation from now people are going to wonder what led to the massive spike in the divorce rate in 2015.

                [–]TheOboeMan 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                No, they'll know what happened, but with they acknowledge the truth within the event itself.

                [–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Eh. I posted a while ago that I'd be interested in this, but if you read the article, 90% of the women on the site are fake, generated ghosts, "done by alm themselves".

                Now that I know that, it'll probably be hours before a new # targeting men as the culprits is generated and that number gets thrown around as a call to action.

                Women don't need this. They just need 2 hours and an alibi. If that.

                [–]karmicillusion 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It's mostly men on AM, think about it. Women cheat to fuck Chads, and there aren't many Chads on AM because a Chad is usually only going to bone a married chick if she falls on his dick. Most often the particular Chad a married woman is going to bone is an ex anyway.

                [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                https://ashley.cynic.al/ CHECK EMAIL ADDRESSES OF FRIENDS/FAMILY/ENEMIES HERE!

                As the fantasy of the traditional nuclear family lies on the floor, bleeding profusely, broken ribs and legs and barely alive this Ashley Madison hack will definitively (or should) be the shot in the back of the head.

                I'd rather live a normal family life, but as society became more and more dysfunctional after normal values and traditions are abolished in the name of feminism a man has to keep his guard at all times. No longer will women lie next to your bed as you lay there dying, no longer will they support you through fire and flames. Modern long term relationships require you to stay in shape, sharp, dread game, endure shit tests and comfort tests and generally be happy with less dedication of your woman than your grandfathers did.

                [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                does this site store queried emails??! lol

                [–]OxGordonGekkoxO 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The Money that can be made will be glorious.!!! :D

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                  [–]What_The_Shoe 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Ashley Madison is a website for people who want to have affairs. A hacking group called Impact Team has been telling Ashley Madison to shut itself down or it will release the information of the users of the site; literally everything. Now Impact Team is saying "Time's up" and has released user information.

                  [–]TheOboeMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Ashley Madison is a dating website for married people looking to cheat. AM is short for "Ashley Madison." Lots of people will be affected.