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[–]Carbonhell 164ポイント165ポイント  (20子コメント)

Man, this is bad. I love reading and refrain from writing, usually, but this makes me a bit sad. I would have preferred if you just ignored those guys calling you a shill, but I completely understand your point. Farewell and thanks for creating this interesting sub!

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 74ポイント75ポイント  (14子コメント)

Thanks for the kind words. I wish I were the sort of person that could ignore attacks on my integrity. It's a personal failing. ;)

Also, you triple posted this, so I am going to remove the other comments. Just wanted to give you a heads up.

[–]Carbonhell 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, i deleted them myself, using reddit on mobile is stupidly hard. Jeez

[–]that-mattg-life 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dont let it keep you from modding again. You did a great job

[–]redditarmyxxx 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for creating this sub mate and have a good life

[–]utohs 34ポイント35ポイント  (7子コメント)

/u/iamDanger_us is compromised. He said he was done moderating and now this account is removing posts!!!

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 33ポイント34ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think this is a joke? But just in case, I told the user I was removing posts because he posted the same comment 3-4 times. ;)

[–]utohs 37ポイント38ポイント  (3子コメント)

Absolutely this was supposed to be a joke. Sorry to add to all the crap that you have been enduring, that was not my intention.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

Haha it's all good... honestly it's just hard to tell sometimes. Poe's Law, and all.

[–]premium_rusks 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You sound like a good dude but man did you fall for that basic level sarcasm. Come back when your troll score is higher, the world needs people like you. Think Martin shkreli

[–]DinosBiggestFan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I imagine that, like being called a pedophile repeatedly, being called a shill gets grating on your nerves too.

I know I was called a shill or "cuck" once because I pointed out that the whole "war is bad" thing that we've been preaching on /r/the_donald suddenly flipped when Trump is appointing a warmonger as Secretary of Defense.

[–]erktheerk[M] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The removed posts were an accidental triple post of the same comment.

[–]inh-uman 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You lasted far longer as a mod of this sub than I would have. I'd have noped out at the first sign that witchhunts were going to be a thing here. So thanks for your efforts, and for caring.

[–]ragecry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/WikileaksTimeline is open for posting/comments now :)

Timeline is in the wiki.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

Also, I will still be participating in this sub, just not as a moderator (will be using a non-mod account). I still care very much about the well-being of Assange, I just don't really wish to be involved in moderating the community as it currently exists.

[–]ventuckyspaz 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't blame you. Glad to hear that you will still participate!

[–]thekingearl 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, glad to know you're gonna stick around. I've agreed with you a lot in as much I joined the sub because I thought something must've happened that Assange still has no internet and there's no official word on why not (since the U.S. election is over) and he hasn't been seen at the window. I wanted to know what. And there's been some interesting speculation an discussion here about that. And there's been some wild ass conspiracy theories being thrown around with no evidence. I'd like there to be more of the former and less the latter.

I got all windy there, but thanks for your efforts.

[–]LovelyDay 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will still be participating in this sub

Glad to hear that, and thanks for all you have done here.

[–]Ras-Al-Ghoul 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is there really are shills at work, they may not be mods here (yet) but truth-seeking subreddits are being dismantled one by one from the inside. Look at the main WL sub, they remove comments now and ban anyone who talks about the fact that Julian hasnt been seen in 2 months.

[–]Fugeo 24ポイント25ポイント  (8子コメント)

Danger, I will never forget what you did for us. To me, r/WhereIsAssange is synonymous with you. It saddens me deeply that this has to happen, but I understand it completely. You are the real MVP, and you deserve the best.

Please don't be a stranger, Danger. Thank you for your hard work, it has not gone on unnoticed.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

I appreciate that very much. I'll still be around, just not under this name.

[–]Fugeo 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Probably for the best.

You have been an inspiration to us all.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

I appreciate it, but really all I did was create the sub 6 weeks ago. I was early on board the "wtf is going on with Assange?" train, that's all. I do appreciate your kind words though.

[–]Fugeo 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

If that were true, you wouldn't have felt compelled to quit. You don't have to be humble, you know you have done more than that.

If anything, you have been an inspiration to me.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for that. It means a lot. :)

[–]Easier_Still 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The timeline is the greatest child of this sub. This makes you the grandfather? Or something?

Anyway, sad to see the crash and burn of what was a really great little corner of Reddit. And sorry you had to receive such an array of dickishness. Adding my gratitude and tip o' the hat for your stalwart efforts, really have appreciated this and you.

[–]wl_is_down 29ポイント30ポイント  (45子コメント)

Thats a disaster, but I can understand why.

I would ask you to reconsider, the people on your back, may be louder, but I would like to think they are a small minority of people with not necessarily good motives.

You have made massive strides in the last two weeks on this sub. It will be a lot poorer with you leaving.

Very sad.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (44子コメント)

I appreciate the kind words. To be honest I am 100% confident in the moderation team to handle this sub. The best content is from the users anyway, not us. So long as users continue to submit quality content, this sub will still be useful.

[–]wl_is_down 10ポイント11ポイント  (43子コメント)

To prevent any theories about you being taken out, could you sign this message?

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 23ポイント24ポイント  (37子コメント)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512

This is a signed pgp statement. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYQztcAAoJEPLvNVxH/dDd3ZMP/1efkL2pqUglift1GNvVD1fz xoShMZI8dHO9HZQT98AiSWypKv9N/1LAUKqCoYyO8IZLXPzAOpxT35pRqTDuzILz +TJ6IrNekmghvBUsuJQbqDfDYUev+KzFFCEk0Am4l2f0W9Q5rahMvPpmiRw1bxdK gA5/8bRcH4ZAqO3eIUMErntnpgNk0unvO40+1tRhR65qKXsoktMk1BpzrhHdYRFx BhaADvoTaeIdTqQDbja9Wk1LwsZZifrO8gEHS78QjfYkIzn/T8tIK3IYIFUHkMvC NtD3hOqY0GkfXPDrefEdkeX6la5KNgimgG5Ft0piz29WhlphV6SmSE/PHefoEHt5 d4zXg0ZhQQ4dzrAkjDwt21VEMa4ZPnfgRoI6PGocyrIHd+q+kMmd/N/F/9wnvkDh iHGzKxrpbNaXxDJv6YH6pwRe0hxLqyGkO1UxBMMiCU2LFg0vOD0d5MSXmkrgF64X oIy/Row/aB96xqMShhTqC2gIiYtvE6nrKLeIqOIU6NIR12+/iDdJWLsStmGN79Yt +bS2HanhLSkgrhRJKBuq/UFtznYlNPg5T86ZrLBGffrg2/LOARb5nL/5FtaO1LSQ bdBn8KwygmjG2Y2C8QLOlcwrbjYmHe2/yB1bTNueYAjyg3fhcRNh5Vh0VaXSqypn QPmZb5Dp8SF5P+U8xgNM =GG1I -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

[–]wl_is_down 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

gpg: Signature made Sat 03 Dec 2016 21:38:36 GMT using RSA key ID 47FDD0DD gpg: Good signature from "No One Danger Marshall (Yes, this is my real name) noonedanger@gmail.com" gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: 3A3E 937C 5F20 48E4 900B 6795 F2EF 355C 47FD D0DD

Verified. (yes reddit does make it harder).

Goddammit, can someone lock the doors to prevent this guy leaving.

ETA: It took 15 minutes because of reddit sigh. But its been weeks for WL to do the same.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mirrored at http://pastebin.com/rUi1m7WJ since reddit likes to mess with formatting. If you have trouble verifying the signature you can do so with the pastebin text.

[–]Ixlyth 17ポイント18ポイント  (34子コメント)

Nice try! All this proves is that, whoever you are, you have control over iamDanger_us's private PGP keys.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

Damn! Maybe I can send some bitcoin transactions to vanity addresses? Even though it's exactly the same thing. That will definitely prove something!

[–]Ixlyth 11ポイント12ポイント  (11子コメント)

I LOL'd!

[–]erktheerk[M] 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

There is no real solution is there?

[–]DanTheOracle 25ポイント26ポイント  (7子コメント)

u/iamDanger_us just needs to appear at a window holding todays cat, we wont settle for anything less

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

Neither of my cats are very keen on being picked up, so you'll just have to take this and be happy.

And I swear to god that if any of you show up to my house and start taking pictures, I'm calling the cops. :P

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe I should post a picture of a shoe on my head?

[–]erktheerk 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holding a white paper that that can be photoshopped.

[–]ventuckyspaz 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

This made me laugh so hard and example of how silly Julian's comments were about PGP.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

It really is ridiculous. Frankly, the excuses are more troubling than if they'd have just come right out and said their key was compromised for some reason.

[–]wl_is_down 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Frankly, the excuses are more troubling than if they'd have just come right out and said their key was compromised for some reason.

Exactly, you have just demonstrated how straightforward the whole thing is. No offense (and I am quite impressed by the steps you have taken) , but if anyone thinks that JA/WL has taken less care of their keys than you, when they are clearly subject to probably all the worlds intelligence agencies they are mistaken.

[–]dissentcostsmoney 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly, like wtf WL...the lack of answer is my answer.

[–]Chiffmonkey 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hound of the Baskervilles. :)

[–]wl_is_down 2ポイント3ポイント  (15子コメント)

All this proves is that, whoever you are, you have control over iamDanger_us's private PGP keys

Yes that it is all it proves. Unless he has been hacked that means its him.
So are you are suggesting that his personal computer has been hacked?

[–]ventuckyspaz 16ポイント17ポイント  (12子コメント)

No now we all think /u/iamDanger_us is dead. Lets start a /r/WhereIsiamDanger_us subreddit.

[–]wl_is_down 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

He actually proved he is alive (I was going to say and well, but pgp isnt that good) and in control of his keys. If JA did the same we could all leave the sub in 15 minutes.

[–]ventuckyspaz 9ポイント10ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yeah but the CIA could have taken /u/imDanger_us down to Gitmo and tortured the passphrase out of him. Seriously though even if the PGP key was finally produced I don't think that would be enough especially after Julian's comments dismissing PGP...

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

For the record, it would be very hard to compromise my PGP key. I have structured the passphrase in such a way that part of it is memorized, part of it is written and stored in a secure location, and it all has to be combined in a specific way to produce the full phrase. The combination method is also part memorization and part physical clues. I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to work it out, but it would not be easy.

[–]wl_is_down 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not being able to sign something is ALWAYS a sign of a scam. Signing something could still be a scam, but vastly less likely.

Yeah but the CIA could have taken /u/imDanger_us down to Gitmo and tortured the passphrase out of him

Theoretically yes, in reality no.

If you change it to JA been taken to Gitmo, well it hasnt worked, has it.

I am sure there are ways to ensure you dont know the passphrase to give up.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think he was making a reference to the statement posted by the wl taskforce twitter. Something like "pgp signing just shows who controls the private key". This was right around the same time that wikileaks was sending messages using btc vanity addresses, which pretty much means the same thing re: private key control (just for the wallet key in that case).

[–]wl_is_down 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I know, but different keys.
To me it shows they lost control of bitcoin keys, but not WL keys.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sure, happy to do so. Give me just a minute and I'll post a signed statement.

[–]wl_is_down 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think it would also be a good example of what WL is refusing to do, and how easy it is.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I agree.

For the record, the most difficult part of me signing something with PGP is getting sidetracked by my cute cats as I walk down the hall on the way to retrieve my private key passphrase.

[–]ventuckyspaz 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Awe I keep posting pictures of my cat to @EmbassyCat lol

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha nice... maybe we could start a new twitter hashtag: #PussiesOutForJulian

[–]MtGtrader 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Quit but don't pass top mod spot. Stay as top mod, don't pass it on.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

I will remain in the top mod spot. I don't plan to do anything, but worst case if the moderation team goes rogue I can remove them all. I really don't see it being an issue to be honest, but if it is I will handle it.

[–]erktheerk[M] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I will resign as well if it gets there.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just want to say again how much I appreciate all you've done. I don't think most people have any idea how much work it can be to effectively moderate a sub. I know I sure didn't.

[–]erktheerk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks. I will say again publicly. I am sorry to see you go. This has been a challenge for me too. It's not that large but the community is divided. Staying impartial is a challenge. I've spent many days here now, ignored my personal time, and even sneaked time at my job to try and help. Boss looks at me sideways, wifey gets made, even while writing this actually. I'll do the best I can, but I feel you. It's draining and (mostly) thankless.

[–]Jackalopewanderlust 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a huge relief, I completely understand needing to step away from modding but maintaining top mod slot is wise.

[–]BravoFoxtrotDelta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good on you, mate. You's a badass, and while I am sad to see this day come, I saw it coming and I'm glad you're making a clean break. Thanks for protecting the integrity of the sub by holding your top spot.

I'm looking forward to trying to figure out your new u/ - cheers.

[–]phatey 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

I hear what you say loud and clear. I am collecting downvotes on this sub like I was back in /r/politics, simply asking for evidence of these wild beliefs. I thought about unsubbing but whatever I'll just refrain from commenting and look to collect evidence as it comes in.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes. There have been some mod discussions about how to allow people to sort through the info here and find the things that are actually verifiable. The problem is everyone has a different definition of what they consider proof. My main complaint is that there are some who simply can't admit this, and instead accuse anyone who has a higher standard of proof as being a shill, compromised, whatever. It does nothing to create a community where differing views/theories can be discussed.

[–]phatey 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hmph. Well, thank you for creating this place. I think the truth will present itself sooner than later. Until then I'll be sending Julian good vibes, as I fear there isn't much to do at this point. Cheers.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the truth will present itself sooner than later.

I sure hope so. It has been a very long 6 weeks.

[–]ThePooba 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I come to this sub looking for information and then i leave feeling mentally unwell and very confused

[–]Gonzo_Rick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been seeing this happen, so have refrained more and more from commenting, just upvoting people like you and then waiting for the good posts (which are becoming increasingly rarified in my opinion) to comment.

[–]PassivelyOP 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Another one bites the dust. I can't be the only one thinking these users are doing this on purpose. The correct response danger, was to enforce the rules you wrote. No calling shill, etc. You'd kick them out of the sub, and it wouldn't be in this shitstorm, if only someone could have predicted this...oh right, you did and many other users, who said don't let them cry shill...

[–]erktheerk[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]Jackalopewanderlust 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Copypasta replies mileage may vary, it can easily come off as dismissive since the question isn't actually addressed in your reply. The rule was made and not enforced and the results show in the current state of the sub.

[–]dissentcostsmoney 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks man, really not happy to see you leaving, PM me anytime if you need anything.

*This was an effort most likely to tire you out. Maybe reconsider fulltime vs casual.

[–]Freqwaves 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry to see you go.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll still be participating, just not as a mod. :)

[–]bIackbrosinwhitehoes 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's what they do, man. They scream and call you part of the conspiracy and they do it until you run away, and then they control the space. There is a concerted effort underway to ensure that happens. It's part of their operational manual.

And you just let them succeed in beating you.

I thank you for everything you've done, and ask you to reconsider.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, I am not leaving. I will be participating under a new name without the added consideration of maintaining professionalism in a moderator role. If anything, I will be free to interact with them in an unfiltered way.

Those people are free to view it as a victory. It is not.

[–]ventuckyspaz 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Thanks for your good work. I feel frustrated being stuck between the "he is dead" people and the "Everything is great" people. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Regardless of what anyone else says you did a great job keeping the sub going well for quite a while when we were all pushed out of /r/wikileaks. I think we have all noticed the downhill projectory the subreddit has taken and it's unfortunate. It could take a while longer before the real truth gets confirmed or revealed. It was Reagan that said that right? Trust but verify. I think in this situation verify, don't trust is more expedient. What you said about your personal account reminded me of what I said to shills on twitter attacking me for questioning their story that Julian and Wikileaks is fine. I said I'm a real person who uses the same handle for twitter and reddit. I have my real name on my twitter account and a facebook account which is about as old as my account here (4 years). If I'm the shill why am I using my real name and why aren't you using yours? They wouldn't respond to that. You did good for us and for Julian. Thanks again!!!!!

[–]erktheerk[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think we have all noticed the downhill projectory the subreddit has taken and it's unfortunate.

It's a fine line. Modlog is public. That's becoming more common but we took it a step further. We made our modmail public. We have a discord chat. I am making real time back up of the sub.

Aside from becoming heavy handed and removing post in bulk we just have to try and moderate the sub and let the community drive the content with the few rules we have.

I have no desire to feed the narrative by becoming a heavy handed mod, but no matter what we remove or say, there will always be two camps. Those who think we are allowing shitposts and those who think we are censoring.

[–]UnimatrixZeroOne[M] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm now here and ready to answer questions, too!

[–]erktheerk[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (19子コメント)

I am online now and ready to answer questions.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (14子コメント)

I'll also be hanging out for a bit to answer any questions.

[–]Carbonhell 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

I am not experienced with how reddit administration works, I assume you need to transfer the ownership to someone, right? Who will you transfer it to? Or if I am completely wrong, who will have the power to appoint new mods?

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, what /u/erktheerk said. I will remain in the top spot which means I can remove any moderator below me. Reddit moderator authority is hierarchical. Any current moderator can add new ones as needed. Any moderator in the list can remove moderators below them, but not above.

[–]ventuckyspaz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's nice to know that when while you aren't going to be moderating us anymore you can moderate the moderators.

[–]erktheerk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly.

Our modlog and modmail will remain public. We strive to be as open as possible about all official mod actions.

[–]erktheerk 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Admins are employees of Reddit. Moderator duties is a community effort. AFAIK he is not leaving his position. Just will not be taking moderator actions from this point forward. Our modlog and modmail will remain public.

[–]ventuckyspaz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keeping things open like that helps with keeping confidence with the subreddit. They should make all subreddits do that maybe /r/politics wouldn't have been taken over by CTR during the election...

[–]IsaiahHoyt -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Did u/spez and/or Hilliary and Soros threaten you to quit?

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Haha definitely not. I would imagine none of them even know who I am. :P

I am stepping down because I have neglected my personal life over the past several weeks. I am not good at doing things in moderation (ha). So to refocus, I have to disconnect for a bit, possibly for good. I will continue to post here, just not under an account with mod powers.

[–]IsaiahHoyt 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Just wanted to know.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

All good. I'll be signing a comment with PGP here in a minute if that helps to allay any fears.

[–]IsaiahHoyt -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you work for u/spez and/or Hilliary and Soros?

[–]erktheerk 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've never talked to any employees regarding this sub.

[–]AddictedReddit[M] 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Folks, I'm totally a paid & bought for shill who will rule with an iron fist and derail the noble efforts of this sub.

J/k, glad to be aboard! The best way to get our attention is to use the report button... automod sends modmail notifications and we all get instant notifications. I realize that short of new evidence there isn't much we can do sans organizing a cohesive plea for "proof" of life in the form of a balcony appearance or signed message. Even a signed message may not placate everyone, and video interviews have been proven fakeable.

Personally, I believe that a coordinated effort to pressure the office of Rafael Correa may yield a statement from the Ecuadorian government on the matter (especially now that the election is over), but I look forward to any new developments that help bring the truth to light.

Assange is, and has been for a long time, one of my heroes. We all owe a great deal of gratitude for his efforts and sacrifices. Don't let the detractors and shills distract you from seeking the truth, we will not go quietly.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Welcome, man!

Folks, I'm totally a paid & bought for shill who will rule with an iron fist and derail the noble efforts of this sub.

/r/conspiracy thread in 3... 2... 1...

[–]ventuckyspaz 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as your a shill in my camp and not a shill in the other camps!

[–]laosimerah 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I see what you mean about the subreddit devolving into what it is at the moment. Too many of the wrong people are here now, disagree with them and you're the enemy.

*I Didn't expect this. I also won't be surprised if they scream subs been compromised because of your exit.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

*I Didn't expect this. I also won't be surprised if they scream subs been compromised because of your exit.

Yeah, I know. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? The people who will scream about how we're compromised have no one to blame other than themselves.

[–]robmak3 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I am wondering how someone (/u/unimatrixzeroone) related to No Mans Sky will help us. That was an overhyped faliure.

JK, I'm sure it's hard to moderate that sub. I would buy for $20-30 on a steam sale.

[–]UnimatrixZeroOne 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am wondering how someone (/u/unimatrixzeroone ) related to No Mans Sky will help us. That was an overhyped faliure.

I know a lot about trying to get in contact with those who remain silent ;).

[–]robmak3 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/whereismurray is still to be generated.

[–]UnimatrixZeroOne 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow. I can't believe that isn't a thing. Well, too late now.

[–]CommunistSynthesiser 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry to see you go. You did a great job and I'm sure we're all thankful for your efforts.

I can see this sub has gone down hill and off-course, whether by human nature or agenda accounts. This was most evident after Assange's recent telephone interview. I listened to it a few times and there were some interesting things of note in that talk. No one seemed to have noticed on this sub. Both on this sub and twitter "POL" is all we hear, when I think it is pretty apparent that Julian is alive and likely at the embassy. Instead of focusing on what he said, and whether he truly is where we are told he is, most people here are ignoring everything that isn't POL related. This really only serves his enemies.

Thank you again.

[–]Acisionne 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for your service.

I remember (feels like 6 mo ago) when this sub started, the realist vibe, the search for truth, the transparency in moderation in contrast to so much other rubbish going on elsewhere.

The first wave of this sub was a superb reminder of what an online community should be. You kept your head above water longer than anyone in your position would be expected to do. I salute you.

[–]demos74dx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know it's been hard for you Dan, and I respect your decision to step away. I just want you to know that I think you've been one of the best moderators of the 2016 Reddit shit show, Thank you.

[–]Tired8281 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you for everything you have done. Know that some people do appreciate it.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I do know it. I'm sorry if this post was overly focused on the negative, but I absolutely know there are people who are thankful for what we have done/are trying to do. That is what kept me around this long. I appreciate it.

[–]Dr_Taffy 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Much respect man. Thanks for your service to this sub and to Discord. You've been really professional about everything and we'll miss you!

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! I'm not going anywhere though, just joining the non-moderator userbase. :)

[–]supaninjas 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

You were an awesome mod. Thank you for your service. I'm out of the sub as well. I joined when there were only 100 subscribers and it was a very informative sub. Now it's just full of paranoid anger filled posts, im sooo sick of the word shill!

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

im sooo sick of the word shill!

That's exactly what... someone sick of the word shill would say!

;)

Thanks man. Sorry to see you go. I hope you stick around because I do think there's still some good info posted here. I will be sticking around, just under a new name.

[–]YourHackHusband 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for all the very hard work you've done here. I don't comment all that often, but have been here from the beginning and have really appreciated the thoughtfulness and commitment to transparency from you and all of the mods. I'm glad that you will continue to stick around in a way that takes less of a personal toll on you; you have been a huge part of what is best in this sub. Thank you again for creating it, and putting so much of your heart into it. All the best :)

[–]jrf_1973 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is what happens when rampant paranoia and idiocy and name calling is allowed to breed. Good people get crushed.

Welcome to the new mods. They have a lot of work cut out for them.

[–]damiana9 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

We will miss you /u/IamDanger_us! I do understand your decision. Thank you so much for creating this sub and everything you have done for it, and the fact finding regarding Assange and his situation. I hope you will still be a presence, even if you aren't a mod.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely. I will be around until Assange is proven safe and sound.

[–]Hold_My_Calls 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for starting up this sub. It may spell the difference in Julian's freedom or very life.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Happy to have done so, even if it has become something I didn't originally intend. If it ends up making any sort of difference, even if that means just forcing Wikileaks' hand to show that Assange has been in the embassy all along, it will have been worth it.

[–]madlyrogue 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry it's been such a pain in your ass. Totally understand wanting to separate yourself from it given the circumstances but sad to hear. Thanks for all you've done!

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's OK. Honestly it's probably not as bad as I make it sound, IF I were able to just ignore the drama people are trying to stir up. As it is, I cringe when I see an orangered right now and I am pretty sure my girlfriend hates reddit. I just want to go back to being a normal redditor (as much as any of us can be considered "normal").

[–]Chiffmonkey 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the dedication, better that you take care of your mental wellbeing than become genuinely "compromised" by losing it over frustractions with tinfoil hatters. :)

I made a hypothetical argument about the integrity of this subreddit and am genuinely sorry if that led others to make assumptions about you. The point was to make people careful about believing things claimed in threads, not to begin a witchhunt.

Good critical thinkers are charitable thinkers. They do not assert their correctness without substantial evidence and peer-review. Peers doesn't mean friends. It means allies, rivals and undetermineds. That's how you avoid an echo chamber of one, as so many seem to fall into even down here where we're well aware what echo chambers are. An accusation made lightly only serves to undermine your integrity.

To the new mods, please be aware that the question over wikileaks compromise is a tier two conspiracy theory. We are questioning a narrative that questions a narrative. It's weird down here.

[–]wahtsup 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sub brought my (and thousands of others') attention to the issue, so no matter what it has become now, it made a huge difference already. So thank you.

[–]reactor12 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm really sorry to hear you copped so much flak and I really appreciate your effort. Keep your head down and don't let the idiots get to you.

[–]Tarathx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sad, but understandable. Hope you stick around as much regardless, thanks for all the work Dan!

[–]foamed 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are many things you can implement to immensely improve the subreddit though:

Set up Automoderator to automatically filter out all comments that include insults and racial slurs. Ban users that resort to personal attacks, witch hunts, brigading or spamming.

Remove all articles (non-selfposts) that have editorialized titles by OP, sensationalized titles, misleading or false info. Ban submissions linking to conspiracy websites (wild paranoid speculation is honestly not relevant). Finally you can stop allowing low effort submissions like memes, gifs, funny videos or similar.

There will be people complaining, creating wild conspiracy theories about the sub being compromised or filled with shills, but you'll never be able to please or make these people happy anyway. This is a far better option than letting the sub devolve into yet another /r/Conspiracy sub.

[–]crayfisher 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how the narrative changes after the fact...

Last week, all you'd find on this subreddit is threads full of hardcore conspiracy nonsense. Now suddenly there's hundreds of people saying "you were a great mod, I knew all along Julian was OK." Suuuuure you did.

[–]asdfgg31337 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Understandable, thx for your work!

[–]computer_d 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you.

I got repeatedly downvoted for pointing out we have evidence he is safe and in the embassy whereas merely speculation that he is not.

[–]MaunaLoona 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess it shouldn't be surprising that in a sub dedicated to a conspiracy theory there would be rampant conspiracy theories.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally don't consider this sub to be centered around a conspiracy theory.

I've always been up front about what I want: a short, unedited video of Julian Assange holding the current day's newspaper and reading the headline of said paper. A signed PGP statement using the PGP key for the Wikileaks organization that matches the PGP fingerprint published on their twitter bio and website. I agree though that some of the posts here can go into the deep end of the pool. That said, even wikileaks admits they have not been able to provide strong proof of life and that accepting weak proof of life sets a bad precedent.

[–]rodental 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well, so much for trusting the mods in this sub. All you would have to do to restore faith in yourself would be to remove DirectTheCheckered, since all of the suspicious mod activity seems to be from that account.

Anyways, thanks for the time you've spent on this, you were a great mod.

[–]erktheerk[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Modlog and modmail is public. Please provide source for that claim and I will provide any proof available.

[–]rodental 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Not an accusation, just an observation. That account kept removing one user's post about the van pictures a few days back. Now, I agree that the whole thing was farfetched and kinda stupid, but I don't appreciate mods deciding the truthiness of things for me; leave the info up, let people see that it's stupid for themselves.

[–]erktheerk 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

If one post is removed for whatever reason. Reposting the same thing multiple times over and over again is not going to produce different results.

[–]rodental 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm more concerned about the reasons it was removed in the first place. Just read through the modlog, I see that you went on a bit of a removal rampage a couple days ago yourself.

It's a little worrying that another controversial sub has picked up new mods, and now the top mod is disappearing.

[–]erktheerk 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nothing was removed by me that did not have reason. If you think so please quote a removal and I will explain myself.

/u/iamdanger_us has explained why he is leaving. I can not speak for them. I will however discuss any actions I have made.

[–]rodental 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Once again, not accusing you of anything. Just a weird pattern.

[–]AcceptsBitcoin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thought you did an excellent job of wrangling the shitposts\people and trying to keep everything on track.

As the evidence has grown over the last fortnight that JA is likely OK but just in a weird situation that no one understands yet, we've seen the wind taken out of the sails of the more outlandish claims. Somehow, this has caused a doubling down of hyperbole, and the overall tone in the sub has changed.

Good luck modding in the future and thanks for setting this up.

[–]TheCaliKid89 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I totally agree, and IMO you should delete the sub. Sure, another one will get started, but it won't be connected to you and it'll have to build its own credibility.

[–]crayfisher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd agree with that. Plenty of other subs serve the same purpose.

[–]GodOfDumbness 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly? I was wondering how long you would last. Seeing the sub start at first as a cool headed thing where people logically speculated devolving into... this. r/conspiracy threads, people posting questionable "facts", "shillcusations", and overall ruining the spirit.

Sad to see you go, but hopefully we can keep this place going relatively crazy free. Like that pic in the top right, we gotta keep fighting, just need to make sure we don't fight the wrong people/wrong reasons and cause collateral damage.

[–]wtfdidijustdoshit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah this sub was different when it first started now it has turned to shit. time to unsubscribe i guess..

[–]OnlyPretending 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's really unfortunate you can't start a real, open dialogue about a possible conspiracy without all of the noise from the typical paranoid conspiracy-theorists. Do they realize they do the most damage to their cause?

[–]crayfisher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, they're not capable. That's literally the case.

[–]DinosBiggestFan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is pretty sad. The word shill has been slung out a lot this election -- and to be clear, you can blame Hillary for it because of Correct the Record and its ridiculous budget -- but this is the one sub I've seen on Wikileaks that has shown enough times to not be compromised at all.

[–]Dannyl3oy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great job lad, sorry to see you go,

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[–]crayfisher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

kybarnet compromised

[–]JurijFedorov 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Once Assange did the second audio interview it was basically over. No non-conspirator would even think he is missing or gone. So the sub lost its meaning and only the hardcore group remained sceptical.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

I will continue to follow this until the proof of life I mentioned in another comment has been fulfilled:

  1. Unedited video of Assange reading the headline from a current day's newspaper.
  2. A signed PGP statement from the Wikileaks org, using the previously published key matching the fingerprint listed on their twitter bio and website.

Really, even the wikileaks taskforce account tweeted that accepting weak proof of life sets a bad precedent. You can't fault people for not accepting an audio recording as proof of life/lack of duress. At the very least, you have to acknowledge that Wikileaks itself classifies audio as weak proof of life.

[–]JurijFedorov 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Maybe it's not PoL. But I feel like I don't need it anymore. The only thing I need is more information from Wikileaks and Assange. I don't need to dig through his old recordings as I figure they are all valid. I figure he is alive and well. I just want to see his face again and him telling us why he is hiding. I think 99% of all people feel the same way about all of this.

[–]iamDanger_us[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

But I feel like I don't need it anymore.

That's your personal determination to make. Again though, it's disingenuous to act like people are conspiratorial loons for having a different standard of proof. Heck, my standard of proof is lower than the one set by wikileaks itself (live streaming video q&a).

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    [–]Beefshake 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Just because he's stopped moderating doesn't mean he can't take a minute or two of his day to post.

    [–][削除されました]  (2子コメント)

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      [–]Beefshake 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Sorry it looked like you replied to iamsdanger on my CIA provided shill phone.

      [–]metahivemind 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't think you're a shill. You're not good enough at this to be paid.

      [–]BolognaTugboat 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      That's fucking retarded and the fact that you're being upvoted just proves this sub is 100% dead -- and not for the reasons mentioned ITT.

      [–]JurijFedorov 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It's also completely true. If it weren't most newspapers and most people would ask for PoL.

      [–]lets_get_hyyerr -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Ya'll said you'd recommend me as a mod :/

      [–]iamDanger_us[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

      We went back and forth on even adding two mods. I'm sorry but there were several people who asked and some of the older messages got lost in the shuffle. I've barely been on reddit for the past few days because I have honestly been dreading dealing with the drama people are throwing my way. Many apologies. I would imagine as the sub grows, the mod team will grow as well.

      [–]lets_get_hyyerr -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Well if you need 1 more mod, let me know.

      I'm a mod with erktheerk over at /shills and Im also mod at /HailCorporate, /uncensorednews and was a mod for /pizzagate when it wasn't banned.

      Let me know if you need me. I'd love to apply my mod skills and help the subreddit.

      [–]iamDanger_us[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I appreciate that.

      [–]lets_get_hyyerr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      No problem. I'm glad to offer my help for you guys!

      [–]lord_dvorak -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

      There were witch hunts? I've literally never seen a post with personal information in it.

      [–]iamDanger_us[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

      It's not even personal information, though there have been a few instances of that as well. Saying "/u/[person] is a shill!" is a witch hunt. It inspires downvote brigades, threats/taunting via PM, etc.

      [–]lord_dvorak 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      But you were talking about the possible closure of the sub, right? And I'm saying I didn't realize we were anywhere near that.

      [–]iamDanger_us[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah the sub is remaining. I am just no longer going to take an active role in moderating it.

      [–]erktheerk[M] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      We are not closing the sub.

      [–]jrf_1973 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I could give you links, but I'd rather pretend they are forgotten about. The mods have forced the removal of usernames within the posts anyhow.

      [–]erktheerk[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      We try our best. I personally do not have the time to sit on the modqueue or /comments 24 hours a day. When I spot something like that I do remove it.

      [–]jrf_1973 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh I know you guys do. It's a thankless job, but as someone who has been called a shill many times and been lied about many times, I say "thank you".