I'm Athene, answering questions about the recent controversy.

MiteCrow · 3年前

Hi everyone,

I can confirm that this is really Athene and this a good opportunity for you to get some answers from Athene as he will address your issues/concerns/questions here.

Keep it clean though as we will be removing personal insults etc

MiteCrow

Zwossj · 3年前

http://i.imgur.com/iPmHzrs.png

Did you really pay him?

http://imgur.com/a/R8dcz

And why did you call him a "toxic player", yes maybe he banned the ONLY champion you play, and I agree, if you called him, then peeps should not ban him, but just because your skill level is so low that you can only play Ryze and sometimes Soraka, does not give you the right to call them toxic. Learn to play more than one/two champs, cause you are not really good if you have to get friends to dodge for you just because you can't get Ryze. .

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/475624/#nogo

And one last thing, is this you? (and take a look at game 5 please, that is some interesting use of team communication)

spherilux · 3年前

http://www.twitch.tv/athenelive/b/383485873

3:27:48 -- He's queue sniping, so he celebrates when his friends get on the same team as him

3:29:09 -- His team bans Ryze so he freaks out and asks his friends to dodge. His friends say they can still win, but he's still freaking out

3:30:30 -- He doesn't want his viewers to hear him flaming, so he tells his teammates "Can you read Skype?" because he's raging hard on Skype, telling them to dodge.

At this point his friend is begging him to play, saying its an easy win.

3:31:37 -- Since his friend still isn't dodging for him, he mutes his mic and shouts at them. This part really irritates me.

3:32:00 -- His friend finally dodges.

2:38:12 -- Enemy team picks TF, he tells his friend (on his team), "Just dodge this game, I don't want to play against Twisted Fate". His friend says "We don't need to dodge this game" but is made to dodge because Athene doesn't get his mid.

His other friend pulls out his smurf to join Athene. "I've got a smurf"

5:57:50 -- Athene says "Its actually good that we're queueing with 3 people, you know why? Because its going to be the ultimate rage on the forums. Now we even have 4 [people queueing]. Its just too good."

6:02:05 -- He's in champion select with his friend BLADEMASTA for his last placement match, enemy team picks Ryze, he forces Blademasta to dodge, then says "I want ultimate rage on the forums. I didn't even dodge. Blademasta dodged, so I don't even lose RP. Lololol." (He actually said Lololol. I'm not kidding) His friend says he'll come back with a smurf.

CREDIT TO Jugg3rnaut http://www.reddit.com/user/Jugg3rnaut

MTwist · 3年前

This ama is gonna go nowhere.

You wont hear anything you want to hear, and then it'll just turn into a hate thread.

harryninetythree · 3年前

This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRusF8srOQE) was extracted from this stream (http://www.twitch.tv/athenelive/b/383485873) and this explanation (http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b7i9c/post_about_athene_abusing_ranked_elo_system_closed/c94l046) You seem to be queue sniping and queue dodging just because Ryze gets banned or theres a “troll” (chat screenshots http://imgur.com/a/R8dcz#f2YPJf4) in the chat. But you do know that banning champions is a feature that is allowed in the game, if you know the opposing members team best players champion then it is a smart tactic to ban their character, or troll the team by banning their best character (ok own team mates trolling isnt fair). Why don’t you just deal with it and play as a different champion? You then laugh because you don’t loose RP but your friend does. Then you also say you didn’t queue dodge blademasta did, but those were your team mates that you told to dodge because you couldn’t seem to handle the game. Also in the start you turn off the mic and should at your friends for not dodging because they all say they can win, when you don’t trust them. Then as your friends dodged they get a smurf account to play with you. Why do that? Why not just play and be a man? Why stab your friends and laugh at them loosing points because of your instructions? I watched the stream and was appalled at what you done. Please explain. BTW I don’t agree with them about you stealing money. I know that’s a lie. Ive ben watching you for years, I still enjoy what your doing but this controversy has confused the hell out of me. Regards You say queue dodging is not classified as cheating ok.

Hats4Cats · 3年前

Hi, Athene

I notice there been alot of trash recently but there are 2 main points that still go unanswered.

The first point is the ranked system was designed to be used by 1 or 2 players Queueing together to play matches. You by trying to Queue with 3 people in one match are exploiting the system whether or not it gives you an advantage. To exploit the system is against the Code of Conduct.

I know your defence is it hurts you as there is a greater chance that the 3rd member will be on the enemy team. At this Point I say it doesn't matter as you are exploiting the system. At best you gain under a 33% chance to gain an advantage with is still a chance of an advantage wether or not it is 1% or a 99% it is against the Code of Conduct. If you truly just wanted to play with 3 people Draft mode was invented for this purpose.

V. CODE OF CONDUCT

H. Participating in any action which, in the sole and exclusive judgment of Riot Games, "exploits" an undocumented aspect of the Game in order to secure an unfair advantage over other users;

The second point is by having another person Queue dodge for you in placement matches you are again exploiting the system to give yourself a bigger chance at winning your placement matches. You should of Left the Queue yourself.

I have heard your defence on both fronts being well, CLG are doing it and TSM. It doesn't matter if the Queen of England is doing it it is against the Code of Conduct and the stated rules.

I hope to see a role back to plat and to see you reach diamond without resulting to said methods. Btw great work for the kids but using these methods have zero impact on your charity work you could of avoided using these methods as it would of had zero effect on your fundraising. IDK if your a non Profit Organisation but if your are not one then your should become registered as one if you are truly doing it for the kids but again great work.

ProbablyMS · 3年前

Athene how are you trying combat accusations that your charity stream is a scam? Are you considering increased transparency, such as showing documentation on your website of the transactions between Twitch and Save The Children? Lets be honest, these are the most serious and offensive accusation leveled at you and need to be addressed, not only to silence the trolls but also to help Gaming For Good to grow and appear more legitimate to new people.

Kazzzoa · 3年前

When a person on the enemy team picked tf, why did you dodge the game?

audun0905 · 3年前

Athene, I think what you do for charity is great and I truly believe you do this for the kids and not for your own fame or popularity. You save lives and you should feel proud for that.

However, you are a toxic person ingame. You make the experience for others in League Of Legends worse. You don't care about anyone else when you play, the only person you care about is yourself. You then make videos saying the League community is one of the worst communities you've ever been a part of, which I find extremely hypocritical considering you are a toxic player yourself.

You are using charity as a way of compensating for you being an asshole. You feel entitled to do whatever the fuck you want because the money goes to charity. That's your defense whenever you do something wrong, you make a video of little kids in Africa and say you are saving their lives.

Personally I think you are aware that you are a toxic player. I think all your videos about the LoL community being toxic is just for baiting people to give you publicity. You know you are being extremely hypocritical and you therefore know that many people will watch the videos and write about it on forums and reddit.

If you don't want to be hated by the LoL community (something I think you want to be, though, for the publicity) you shouldn't demand to be ryze mid. You shouldn't have people dodge games because you didn't get ryze. You shouldn't act like an asshole and ruin the experience of others.

Make money for your charity in a fair way and have the community with you or continue being an asshole who feels he is above the law and continue being hated. I'm pretty sure I know which one you will go for though, unfortunately.

TheR1otAct · 3年前

How can you justify "triple queuing" and things like that if Riot has limited the number of people that you can queue with in ranked to 1? Please do not respond by saying "other people do it too". Is this not exploiting the vast amount of viewers that you have?

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briceyo · 3年前

Dear Athene... Compared to most people, I am actually a person that have been following you and some things are really appreciated but some things you do are just... Well, asked to be trolled for. So here I go, I'll come up with evidence and you're going to answer me.. Right? If you don't well, that says enough about you already.

Question 1: Why do you expect people not talk ''shit'' about you while NEARLY all you do is play Ryze? Come on, you know it's silly, imagine going in champions League and they ban Ryze, you're screwed dude. The reason why I ask this question is because you're trolling like ''try to counter pick Athene,'' And trying to counter Ryze ain't that hard is it... evidence in video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKeWkT72aVw

Question 2: Why are you complaining about trolls while you're clearly a troll yourself.. You even admit it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z4qXM-M0xY

Question 3: Why do you even bother making videos about the LoL community? Can't you just ignore the fact that they're there. The actual pro's don't do it either, for example Fnatic/SK/Gambit BenQ/Azubu never spread their word because they know it's not worth it. Don't you think it would be a lot more mature to talk to people that actually are professional, and keep your thoughts for yourself?

Question 4: Why do you complain about haters while it's obvious why you get haters.. Here are the reasons (can't you just ignore it, and stop making videos about it?): -You call yourself the best gamer in the world. -When you won against Alex Ich (apparently not even the Gambit BenQ Alex Ich) you made this silly dance video, which is not professional at all, sure you would call it trolling/making fun but if for example xPeke did this... What would you think? He wouldn't do that because he actually knows he is good, he doesn't have to prove anything, but doing this live is just a bit over the line. proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKeWkT72aVw

Question 5: Here's a personal question as an ex-fan. You see, I used to like you with videos like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibSWooWOiO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0S-P5X6Clg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8-GA_4YeQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcD5rQJONV4

So what do these videos have in common? You're serious, you actually do something that's real good and is likable.

Can you please stop crying over ''jelly haters'' as you call them, and make more good videos like these?

Please stop trolling, grow the fk up, stop wasting your time on kids and start breaking actual records and get challenger if you feel like it.

Thanks in advance, an old fan.

[deleted] · 3年前

Did you cheat?

Swiftay · 3年前

This? http://i.imgur.com/iPmHzrs.png

TheCow1337 · 3年前

Can u explain that? http://imgur.com/a/R8dcz#f2YPJf4

MADBEE · 3年前

Can people stop downvoting athenes answers? Im not a fan but im still interested in his answers.

Awak3 · 3年前

Do you really think that making people throw for you is a fair way to reach diamond?

Karma_collection_bin · 3年前

Dear Athene,

What is your response to the criticism that says that you will troll or feed if you don't get either Ryze or Soraka. Let's say a hypothetical scenario where the enemy team bans both. Do you actually do this? If so, what's your reasoning?
Thinking about it, if you get to the higher tiers (e.g. Diamond I or challenger tier) where everyone knows each other and has everyone on friends list, your mains will get banned probably 50% of the time (especially if you're streaming). Don't you think it would be beneficial to learn a few more champions well? I understand the benefits of knowing/mastering one champ inside out, but if you want to be the best, you have to learn others, right?
What do you think of pick order? If you are below others, should you let them get a role over you? How does this choice influence how you interact with other players?

Thanks!

edit: formatting

Farm_the_karm · 3年前

Coke or Pepsi

szlose · 3年前

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DomPolanco · 3年前

Simple: Do you, in your honest opinion believe you belong in Diamond ?

Smurfsareblue20 · 3年前

Hi Athene, why Ryze?

PotemK · 3年前

When you throw around the buzzword "haters", to brush away any shred of relevant criticism of you and your show and incite your fans to relay your gimmicks everywhere, don't you realize you cultivate the very thing you are complaining about? get this, your "persona" is the drive behind your fame, it is insanely polarizing and some people will hate what you do, while others will love you with the same unbridled passion. You feed the hate/fandom machine, out of all the personalities in this business, you are among those who build their following on a manufactured sense of community, revolving not around actual content, humorous, informative or artistic, but solely around you, your gimmicks and catchphrases. Every last thing you do is just pandering, beyond earning a living and giving to charity do you feel you are achieving something? Or is it a means to an end and when you've reached your goal you will bail? How can you read your own twitch chat and say "yeah, those people are great and that's some healthy entertainment I got goin there"?

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tunaxtheone · 3年前

I´ve known you for a long time Athene, and i would like you to answer these questions:

1.) how can you ever defend the fact that you que as 3 and fighting a guy who is actully trying to help you get diamond?

2.) how can you defend that you make venom blade dodge for you? it´s not him who is suppose to dodge, it´s you, since ur the one getting your champion banned, so wouldn´t you be calling that abusing venom blade being a safe diamond and just dodge for you?

3.) can you even be so arrogant and say that, venom blade and his duoQ partner, xin zhao, that both random dc at the same time, after you losing to both of them, and in that game we can hear you doing a type marathon while standing afk behind second turret, you wanna know the odds of two player dcíng at the same time, and the odds when they happens to be your friend?

Coolwhip21 · 3年前

I want more videos inside the head of Chiren, not Athene. More like IPower style, thats the stuff i miss

Gigo1989 · 3年前

You can't be considered a diamond player if you only know how to play one champion. In this game, you can't always take the role you want, therefore you just have to learn how to play multiple champions. Until you do that, you will never be considered a serious gamer and in the eyes of many people, you will never be considered a legit diamond player!

A small tip: when people ban Ryze and Soraka against you, it's not because they are "jelly haters", it's because everyone is sick and tired of you only playing two champions.

Verylimited · 3年前

Why do you even play this game? Do you even enjoy yourself? Is it truly fun to play nothing but ryze and afk rage if ryze is picked or banned? Why is it that every game you play you turtle to one champion ( ryze, paladin) that are easy to use with a high reward. I watch your youtube channel and you seem to be a very smart guy, I dont see why you never like challenging yourself.

Roflcoptine · 3年前

Can we please stop downvoting every single response of Athene so people can actually see what he is replying even if you don't agree with him. Thanks a lot.

NinjEEEk · 3年前

Why dont you play other champs?

TminusTech · 3年前

These answers aren't helping your case at all. You are dodging the questions and trying to put the blame on other people. Learn to play the game. You don't pick it up in 2 months and go diamond. It's clear from watching your stream you are inexperienced. You never solo que. You dodge as soon as someone bans ryze or soraka because you have no idea how to play anyone else. The reason why you are calling people toxic is because they stone wall you. You don't play anything asides from Ryze and Soraka so you literally have to dodge or it's an instant loss. You get one your lackeys to dodge for you. If you really want to shake this reputation. Get your ass on solo que and show that you are capable of learning the game. Stop playing with people. Prove you yourself are capable of climbing the ladder. You may actually gain some respect that way. You are spitting in the faces of people who work their ass off to get to that high elo and then they have some jumped up ass hole come in the game and start shit because he can't play 2 particular champions.

You came to the wrong game to get carried.

T33ch · 3年前

Can you provide documentation of all the charity work you've done over the years?

FERNAND8TOR · 3年前

Do you think you deserve to be banned?

nDizz · 3年前

How do you feel about being elo boosted to Diamond?

sure-thing · 3年前

WARNING: WALL OF TEXT

I'm not really a fan of Athene, I remember seeing him do a lot of funny stuff way back when he first started out but lately I haven't really gotten into his stuff. That being said, everyone seems to miss the point of Athene and what hes doing. Let me clear something up for everyone. Athene isn't trying to hit diamond for his own pride, or to go pro. He's trying to hit diamond to stay relevant and recognized as a multiplatform high end gamer. If anyone has actually watched him play any game, you'll see hes pretty mediocre at best realistically. He generally gets a lot of outside help from his viewers to help push him to the level of extreme that few rarely achieve in games. The reason he wants to remain relevant and recognized is so he can keep a healthy income stream whether its for charity or otherwise. League of Legends is one of the most popularly played games around the world, and as such obviously is a good outlet for Athene to perform.

tl:dr Athene isn't the best gamer, but if you think thats what he finds important then you're most likely mistaken. He's a performer first, gamer second.

Zyzzsickcnt · 3年前

Could you please stop with the psychology videos and shit? You don't have to show us in every fucking video how intelligent you are, nobody gives a shit.

Chicagofrown2 · 3年前

Do you really think you have the level to be diamond? Honest question. I played with you on a game I was Renekton and you're opposite mid was leblanc. You got seriously outplayed (0-3 and 28cs at 15min), but it was only a game and facing a leblanc is kind of special (even if you managed to use your cage on leblanc's clone twice). So I watched your stream a bit. You only know how to play one champion (one of the easiest too), you don't CS properly and overall your mechanics dont seem on par to diamond level. Sorry for my poor english.

Lycari · 3年前

V. CODE OF CONDUCT

H. Participating in any action which, in the sole and exclusive judgment of Riot Games, "exploits" an undocumented aspect of the Game in order to secure an unfair advantage over other users;

The second point is by having another person Queue dodge for you in placement matches you are again exploiting the system to give yourself a bigger chance at winning your placement matches. You should of Left the Queue yourself.

Im not a athene hater at all but everything in this states what athene did wrong and why so many people are pissed off, because anyone else who did this would be banned without question. I support you athene and charity is awesome but I think you need to understand so many are pissed off from this point of view. Honestly though I didnt think it would explode this much.

Expiredmilk17 · 3年前

Are you still the best paladin in the world?

Leafar3456 · 3年前

What was the puropse of your video "Banned"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1xGaHy98Q

Krillbill · 3年前

Hey Athene, I have lots of respect for a lot of things you have done. What I wonder though, is why you feel the need to do these 3 man premades? Why not learn new champs, new roles and climb through the legaues by yourself? And don't give me the excuse that people troll you all the time, maybe it happens a little more to you than other players, but we are all getting trolled quite a lot in this game :-)

Tranen · 3年前

Something u regret in this rise to the diamond league?

PrestigeThe · 3年前

What do you make of this piece of evidence, Athene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWA2pjMjpBs&feature=youtu.be&t=39s

LaughingFlame · 3年前

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xTiCT0C · 3年前

do you think your overall skill level is diamond ?

okpbro · 3年前

what if someone while you're on a promotion series did that against you? team up as 3-4 people, manipulate queue times, getting diamonds to queue as golds/silvers, etc. how would you feel?
how much money really goes into charity from the money you make streaming/subscribers/donations?? i wanna see documents, proof, etc..

yawgmothsupp · 3年前

While I might agree that maining a champ is the best way to be successful with them, why not learn more champs? You enjoy AP, so why not have Rumble/Vlad for when you have to go top, your usual Ryze mid, a solid AP jungler or two (Zac and maybe Mao) , and Raka/Sona for support?

chapass · 3年前

Stop downvoting the man please, I'd like to actually see his answers :D

Daedelous2k · 3年前

Why can't you just admit you were stacking rooms in your favour, everyone knows you have a pedigree in exploiting games without hacking, you were caught in conversation repeatedly with the people who threw for you (and bear in mind a red name in result screen = they were d/ced a long time, yet funny would you get mr zyzyz or whatever his name was on skype perfectly fine).

Why is it impossible for you to play champions that require a less brainless mindset and not just JOHN FUCKING MADDEN? Spamhappy desired to Poppy his way up but can play others in the event he gets his choice banned without resorting to calling people jellyhaters/toxic, it's not like they are exploiting the game to get up, they are just giving a respect ban to someone.

Oh and the reason Riot aren't contacting you is because they will be auditing your account, yours and likely the people pattern matching in matches with you for your room stacking.

So, why don't you grow a pair and just admit you room stacked, at least you might keep a sliver of respect with some people.....maybe.

[deleted] · 3年前

THE HORROR!

PirateSyndicate · 3年前

Athene, I keep hearing you talk about the "LOL Community". I think it is important that you not forget that the part of the community that is against you DOES NOT represent the community as a whole! There are people who are for you as well. Although, given the amount of animosity that is spreading through the front pages of the forums at the moment, it is easy to come to the conclusion that the entire community feels this way. As I'm sure you are aware, those who are angered by their belief in the allegations made towards you are much more likely to go out and say something about it than those who do not believe or are impartial.

wannabeafrog · 3年前

Excuse me, but whats the point of these accusations? Taking advantage of actual game mechanics =! cheating.

On the other side, if he rages or yells or whatever, thats up to him and his friends, why do you care? You people seem to have just too much free time on your hands. Peace

Draakon0 · 3年前

So, how is that Belgium Gaming school going?

Promasterchief · 3年前

Thousands of players have reached diamond already, why do thes extraordinary retarded people even care?!

FubyHD · 3年前

Aren't you all being idiots, you came here to get answers from Athene and make him look bad.. But instead you're all make yourselves look bad by down-voting Athene's replies. I'm not a fan myself, but after seeing Athene's video and the shitty little 12 year old LoL community take action for no apparent reason just shows me how immature most of you people can be. If you want answers, then stay on this post, but if you're just going to down-vote Athene's replies then get the fuck out I had enough of immature bullshit.

the_real_Puneet · 3年前

Hi Athene, while I admire you in the way you are streaming for charity and such, you obviously are intentionally abusing the system by getting VENOM BLADEMASTA among others to help boost you, whilst duo queuing with his main account is legal, him using smurf accounts so he can dodge queues and so you can face lower elo opponents is quite clearly a violation of the rules, if not by you, clearly by him. You’re LoLking is proof of this as well as your Twitch streams which I’ve been watching ever since the end of Season 2. There are other issues bought up by other comments which I assume are going to be bought up on this page so I won’t bother explaining them all, however do you believe that queueing with a diamond player, (Venom) on a gold elo account is fair? Do you not constitute that as elo boosting?

You also bring up the issue of no evidence over and over again over the accusations made about you, the in2lol article about you is FILLED with evidence to the max, yet you brush aside the accusations made by saying “all these guys are kids” to your stream viewers, when I can assure you the people taking the time to gather the evidence required to show you for what you’ve really done are most likely adults. Why do you assume the people that ‘hate’ you are immature?

Athene, you’re going to get punished for this in some way or form, you manipulated queues, and other such things in order for you to win those final promotion games and there is a plethora of evidence on Reddit threads and the LoL forums enough to make sure you get elo reset just as the ranked 3v3 teams did in NA who tried rushing diamond toward the end of season2 …. All of my issues are bought up by this post: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1b7i9c/post_about_athene_abusing_ranked_elo_system_closed/c94l046 How do you respond to these accusations?

I would just like to clarify again, I do appreciate you streaming for charity and I admire you for that, but the way in which you did it was despicable and was obviously abusing the system implemented for fairness. I’m not a ‘jelly hater’ much rather my own account is Plat I for all those wondering if I’m buthhurt about you being diamond but I’m not… I’m just saying what you’ve done has completely manipulated a system implemented by Riot. I’m not accusing you of stealing money or anything like that, I have no idea how your finances are handled, what concerns me is the way in which you abused the system.

I would like a response to the articles / posts that have evidence on them and finally ask you this, do you think you abused the system? Do you think what you did is what every other player has done / try to do in order to get to diamond 5??

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Tenoxica · 3年前

pls stop downvoting all of his answeres :/ I'm here to read them and don't want to expand every single post he did.

MADBEE · 3年前

Athene, I'm not a fan of yours, but still also not a hater. Just wanted to ask, whether or not you achieved your goal with cheating or not, why do you want to be diamond so bad so you triple queue? I rather would watch you being entertaining even if you are bronze. Yes, many people won't watch you because "you are only bronze" but I don't watch TheOddone because he is a pro, I don't watch any of the streams I watch because they are pro's but because they are entertaining and its fun for me to watch. So why not be entertaining instead of triple queue to win?

greatercrestedshrike · 3年前

Having watched you stream a couple of times, it's patently obvious you'd still be Silver if you SOLO queue'd as opposed to duo, or didn't use various nefarious exploits as per the subject of this thread.

You can play 2 champs (neither of them well), and troll your teams constantly.

xeiro · 3年前

Hi athene, if you remember me I made the "athene please change or go away thread. Now I have one question, why can't you just be like any other streamer and solo q just to have fun and have good laughs, it seems like you are just to serious about getting diamond, whether you cheated or not I don't care. All I want is the old athene back, the fun, not so serious athene. Also, the second question, why stick around lol with all this drama and hate going on, what makes you stick around (other than save the children)?

wwiQt · 3年前

the thing that bothers me the most is that Athene keeps saying ''all dem helly haterz are such kids''.. Am I the only one thinking that this statement alone makes HIM the actual kid? I mean, can't he just defend himself by arguing in a proper way? Without using the words ''jelly haterz, kidz, jelly jelly jelly jelly jelly jelly''? What should we be jealous of? His English skills? ...

SirBalthor · 3年前

will ogfurious ever come back

majle · 3年前

Are you just going to troll now when you are diamond?

Screenaged · 3年前

Athene, you have moderately severe psychological delusions about yourself, others, and the way people perceive you. What you interpret as people being "jelly haters" is really people despising you for your childishness, irrationality, misplaced self-righteousness, and your persistent victim complex. They tease you because it's fun to watch crazy people act crazy. It's also mean because they don't realize (and neither do you, apparently) that you have some sort of defective ego.

You need to consider staying off stream for a while and doing a little reflecting on your self. Maybe even seek some professional help. Otherwise you're going to sink deeper and deeper into your borderline schizophrenic mindset to the point that you may become permanently mentally ill.

Let someone else stream for charity. The more the better, right? You're not currently the best person for the job. Honestly I don't want to contribute to your cause solely because you're associated with it and I really truly don't have strong feelings about you one way or another. Don't write this off as another "jelly hater" (yah, I'm gonna quote it the second time too because it's that ridiculous). You're making a mockery of yourself and of charity.

z0rdabest · 3年前

You ruin the feel of soloque!

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[deleted] · 3年前

Hi Athene! How can you afford to live if you are, as you claim, nonprofit? Or you leeching from someone elses' pockets?

pendrekky · 3年前

I think you're an idiot. That's about it. You continously search for fame and want to be in the center of attention. I guess you were raised wrong.

[deleted] · 3年前

the people in here are disgusting.

Mytenqvist · 3年前

If you think in the big picture Bachir is a freakin genius; using internet hate to raise money for charity.

nujujuju · 3年前

Can you explain the Riot inquest and details surrounding that? :)

Blahkah · 3年前

So i'm currently watching his stream, and he is just lying through his teeth when he is obviously caught out, i wish he would just own up and accept that he'd attempted to work the ranked system in his favour, in an almost cheating way.

EagleOfDeathMetal · 3年前

Don't you think that you're just ruining the solo queue spirit by making people throw for you, queuing with 2 mates and forcing them to dodge when you don't get your only character (and yelling at them) ?

[deleted] · 3年前

why you said you are banned?Just for fun?

veex23 · 3年前

I created an account just to say this.

Athene, regardless of the good things he may do with charity HAS ALWAY EXPLOITED THE SYSTEMS. Be it rating or Lvling in wow for his own purposes. He deserves nothing less than a ban for his exploitation.

Tolonee · 3年前

The best part of this thread is that the majority of athene responses are downvoted so far that they arent even displayed. Take the hint and cheat in another game athene cause if you can only play 1 champion out of 100+, then this is not the game for you.

linkkabeltje · 3年前

Why don't you just return to WoW and let us alone and yourself from the haters?

[deleted] · 3年前

This is the worst thread I've ever read in my life. People aren't concerned with the answers at all, they don't really care about anything but insulting this guy. This is turning into nothing but a pitchfork carrying hate group. This pretty much proves that this subreddit contains the lowest of the toxic players on LoL. You can see it in every thread. Anyone who posts a play they think is cool gets hundreds of responses like "lol not even good bronze play bad" and many other examples of this behavior. Then something like this comes along and everyone acts like they are so perfect and holier than everyone. Fuck this subreddit, but ill be damned if it is the best place for. LoL news. Just gotta ignore the horrible people. That being said, trying to triple que in solo question is bad and should he a short ban. Still have respect for what he does though. But just because someone did something questionable in a video game doesn't mean we should so grossly and violently attack them in such a personal manner. Some of the comments in this thread are disgusting. Tl;Dr FUCK YOU also I like how some pros and high elo players got caught Elo boosting and cheating to get money, and no one gave a fuck. You hypocritical pieces of shit

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amnezyeye · 3年前

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MrGingee · 3年前

May I ask why you are streaming this AMA? You are making yourself a target.

Scubasteve2020 · 3年前

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=34158499#post34158499

Riots stance on Que Dodging and why they are against it.

"However, over the last 7 months it became clear that there were three undesirable side effects:

Trolls gained more power in champ select.
Players were much less willing to work together and became much more focused on what they individually wanted.
Some players started using queue dodging to micromanage their Elo gains and would dodge whenever they perceived the matchup to be unfavorable.

The first two above led to an increase in trolling in champ select, which in turns leads to an increase in queue dodging. Combined with the increases from the micromanaging group, it’s now the case that queue dodging is very common in the ranked solo queue."

"In general, our goal here is to reduce the amount of time that it takes you to get a game started by reducing the number of failed lobbies."

Athene are you helping in improving the amount of reduced failed lobbies or are you contributing to it?

One more point: Summoners Code is something we all accepted before we could play this game. It specifically states we do everything in our power to work with our team mates even if they are trolls. Do you feel that que dodging is your only option instead of muting picking a different champ, because if so then the above still stands.

Zwossj · 3年前

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_iwww1ooVI

What is this kind of behaviour when dying in League of Legends?

I know this is a smurf account to play against lower level players, and i noticed in one of your earlier answers that you would have been even higher if it wasn't for the trolls, ghosters, DDOSers etc. . , but watching this, and taking a look at the Summoner's Code, you are breaking some rules here.

And don't say its trolling, leaving a game is not a good troll, its just stupid. If it was a low level smurf account, it would might be new players in that game, checking it out, and if those players meet a "troll"/leaver, in their first game, it will make them think that this is a bad game. So if it is a fake vid, or just a troll, I would like to know.

Marluk · 3年前

http://www.in2lol.com/en/news/8047-athene-harmless-entertainer-or-toxic-troll any comments?

ExTeaSea · 3年前

do you really think you are the best ryze or is this just 'marketing' bullshit?

Standupaddict · 3年前

Its been confirmed that you do have friends queue dodge for you in unfavorable games. Why is this fair? If I could cherry pick games, I would be in a much higher ranking. Nobody would ever be able to play draft pick if everyone could dodge without penalty.

drothdarr · 3年前

Athene, why do you give so much importance to reach Diamond, rather than practice the game and become legitimately good at it, so your skill level is Diamond-worthy?

dft · 3年前

Why are u not playing Starcraft 2 multiplayer ?

CoffePunch · 3年前

Do you know how to skillshot?

KingPwnix · 3年前

Now that you reached Diamond, will you be playing different champions in Solo Q?

[deleted] · 3年前

This AMA reminds me of the Family Guy ama with Lois for Mayor, where she only answers "911" or "thats what jesus would want" and everyone cheers for the most simplistic answers possible. Since i only see athene addressing every question with "No, i did not" or "No" etc. Too simple.

serravee · 3年前

Athene, you do know that while the whole charity thing is cute, it actually doesn't solve any of the longstanding problems that Africa has and is overall an empty and unsustainable gesture right? So why do you not put your efforts towards a charity that can produce long-term results?

TehTrapMaster · 3年前

What makes you entitled to get others dodge for you? Everyone here has played his Promotion Series with some kind of trolls, yet we never dodge it. What makes you feel like you should control who you play against? If everybody did that, and had a friend duo-queue with them, I can assure you Diamond would take at its highest 1 month to reach from Gold/Plat. Because you could just bitch and whine and your poor little bitch dodges for you qnd if your enemy takes TF/Ban Ryze that's insta dodge.

Surprised it took you around 6 months with all this kind of help, I don't even know why I'm calling it help Tbh....

Pl0x answer

tamminatorz · 3年前

So do you don't think you violated the summoner's code in anyway?

munashe13 · 3年前

lol goodluck getting any positive feedback from this AMA

Flamebuster · 3年前

Have you ever even thought about playing someone other than Ryze?

Kidnoob · 3年前

Hi Athene! Big fan over here. Had a question about Ryze's teamfighting phase. Do you usually prefer to rush the squishies or be safe and nuke the tanks? I am talking about games where you are not super fed.

Thanks for an eventual answer.

GaronaEUW · 3年前

I really want to ask. How do you take this criticism? It looks harsh but some evidence are against you, even though they might be biased. Does it bother you? Does it make you feel bad? Does it leave you neutral? In your lastest League related upload you said you can only laugh at it, but I want to know if it goes beyond that.

alphak3nyone · 3年前

Athene, it is clear that the league of legends/reddit community does not favor you. Why keep trying to justify your fraudulent behaviour and admitt responsibility of bending the game rules to your favor.

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Gameplayanni · 3年前

Hey Athene was it fun to owne them noobs for them kidz??? ;)

Love you all for opsharecraft action!!!!!!

stienfield · 3年前

I don't really care about this whole mess of drama and am only looking at the facts but the downvotes for the answers he provides on his own AMA shows toxic behavior from the community as a whole.

Take a look at the proper use of downvotes: "While the same rules generally apply to voting on the comments of others, reddiquette states that downvotes should be used for irrelevant comments, not ideas you disagree with."

plyea · 3年前

Hello Athene. I just wanted to say that I really enjoy the content you are giving us and I am really happy that you trying to save children's lives.

I want to say thank you that you are trying to help all games' communities. I really enjoy playing runescape and your video helping us gain those votes touched me. I am really thankful for everything you are doing.

I hope you sometime come and play runescape yourself. :)

malnutrition6 · 3年前

Athene, I hope you'll read this.

First off, I must say I really appreciate the fact that your stream is for charity entirely and I encourage you to keep doing this. The amount of money that has been raised and spent to help children out is insane and it's amazing.

The medium which you use to promote this charity is great too, livestreams, gaming, it's awesome.

You do however, as I've noticed throughout the past 5 years or so, you do have a persona that raises some negative attention too, because on your stream and videos, to some you come off as arrogant and a bad loser. I guess you understand this criticism and hope you realize it has a core of truth. Whether you're just acting or whether it's your real personality I won't judge, but I'm just looking at the facts what we can see from your videos here.

On top of that, and most importantly, you want to be the best player in the world. And with this persona issue you have, you simply cannot reach this goal in LoL. And what you have done as shown in this thread before, queueing up with others and making them leave, it's a sly way of reaching the top, and it is cheating.

Once again, I really do appreciate everything you do for charity, but please keep it a fair game. Thanks for reading.

Zankman · 3年前

I hope you keep doing the charity thing.

Hasselt3500 · 3年前

Athene you know what they say , 'Those who don't have enemys , don't have character' . Let those little whiners , haters be . I admire you , doing it for kids , makking something usefull of it , by it I mean the LoL. None of Big Players said something about you , only some whiner kids who can't break 1700 elo , QQ . They don't even get the 'Athene as an act , persona ' Athene reflects the gamers community , how they act , how they think . Bcuz every 15 year old boy who killed someone will say , 'OWND SCRUBZ , OWND' . Let those hates hate . Keep your work up , let them care about soem pixels and megabytes , but we care about life and kids. Greetz from Belgium

coolstarkman · 3年前

The human race is very cruel to one another, we are the same breed and we are treating each other like crap. No human deserves the hate going towards athene. It makes me sick to see all the hate in this world. There is so much hate that there isn't enough room in the galaxy to store all the hate, flamers and trollers.

LuckyBeat · 3年前

Hello Athene, playing games such as league of legends obviously takes away from your time raising money for charity. You have mentioned on many occasions that you made a lot of money from playing poker in the past, have you ever considered using this as a method for raising money for charity. This means you can play a game and raise money at the same time, obviously ghosting would be an issue but you could just blur your current cards that are in your hand.

tunaxtheone · 3年前

1) well okay, that i wont be argue furture about, since ur won change ur mind.

2) but the rules is clear, abusing the system in any way is ban reason, so your abusing the fact that people doesn´t lose match making and cant drop TIER, so your kinda admitting your abusing the system now.

3) you defend it by venom dc 3 times out 30 games with you? that doesn´t change the fact that he dc AT SAME TIME, as his friend, they don´t share connection, so that is actully impossible. it is simple impossible, if that kind of happens, its a client bug which would effect your team aswell, but honestly? it was on purpose and any guy with a IQ above 100 would know.

anyway - add me in game if you want BEST MID EU 007, got 3 diamond accounts and i can help you improve your game alot, if you wanna keep being in this game without playing ryze.

Vortnez · 3年前

I dont understand why ppl care SO much. Even if you truly believe he cheated and even if he did. Who cares. He did it to raise money for children and that should be all that matters. He reaching diamond in no way effects your life. Stop your fucking wining and complaining for you are whats truly wrong with the internet.

vtechnique · 3年前

Not a question, but more of a comment/observation. I get ppl think Athene is annoying, only plays Ryze, etc..

But man the people that go out of their way to hate on Athene, are just haters. He's not really doing anything that is taking away from you is it? He's putting himself out there, not hiding in the shadows stealing your stuff.

He's sometimes annoying... he uses his fanbase to help him in video games... but whatever. He's human. He's doing things I wish I could be doing myself. He has my respect. I'm not going to go out of my way to hate on him. I'm not jelly like that. He's entertaining for the most part. Stop being so malicious people, he hasn't done anything to you.

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