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[–]Aaren_Augustine 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oak response that provides some comfort without absolving her of responsibility for the rejection.

Fuck that's a great way to put it. So if STFU is the first baby step and forming frame, "oak and rock responses" seems to be the next step. Kind of like progressive weight lifting, this is progressive frame building. Form and technique are absolute, of which you have clearly explained here.

Extremely useful post. Thanks.

[–]sh0ckley 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

+1

High value post. A great way of conceptualizing the options.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 5ポイント6ポイント  (14子コメント)

For failure on her part to do something and her subsequent apology :

ex :

"I didn't make dinner I am sorry I had to bla bla bla."

Your statement of "No problem, I will take care of it"

should produce dread. She knows the value she does or does not provide. If you have to do "everything", she knows there is no reason to keep her.

Be valuable enough that her wasting of your time, affection and attention is a dread producing thing.

[–]rocknrollchuck 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. If you are not a man that she sees as having high value, this response will only allow her to push more of her responsibilities on you without feeling guilty about it.

[–]angels_fanUnplugging 2ポイント3ポイント  (12子コメント)

Except many women will see this as an absolution of responsibility.

"I don't have to cook dinner. I'll just say sorry, I was busy and he'll do it. Chump."

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

should produce dread. She knows the value she does or does not provide. If you have to do "everything", she knows there is no reason to keep her. Be valuable enough that her wasting of your time, affection and attention is a dread producing thing.

If you wasting your time because of her does not dread her, you are a weak sissy pussyboi. Don't be a weak sissy pussyboi.

[–]sunthas 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hear you, but I don't understand how me doing all the chores and her having no responsibilities outside of her job creates dread in and of itself.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

at this point, its because you are autistic.

this situation should be the exception, not the rule. If its the rule, change that.

[–]angels_fanUnplugging 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

You forget solipsism.

What makes you think that your accepting to do her chores will inspire dread in her?

I just don't see wives thinking "ohmygod he's wasting his time doing my chores!! Dread!"

More likely, her hamster would say, "it's about time the lazy fuck step up and help me out!! What has he done for me lately??"

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

More likely, her hamster would say, "it's about time the lazy fuck step up and help me out!! What has he done for me lately??"

so, most women are married to faggots. don't be a faggot.

[–]discobolus_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Doesn't really address the solipsism.

Near every female I've ever worked with is convinced that if they are doing a task, they are the only ones working.

This changes at home if I'm not a faggot?

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Let me address solipsism then : For a man she wants to please, she will solipsize (sp?) that he is going to not be nice to her anymore, or worse, be ABSENT!! ( the horror) if she doesn't make him happy .

I bet when /u/TheFamilyAlpha 's work wife ( who cooks for him apparently) does not bring "them" lunch, she says sorry and means it. She solipsized that its her job to bring another woman's man his food... do you get how to use solipsism yet?

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Dude, no shit I just finished eating some popcorn that she popped for me because I said I was hungry.

Nothing more, just said I was hungry and fucking poof.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Dude, no shit I just finished eating some popcorn that she popped for me because I said I was hungry.

I am starting to find the weak minded faggots on here annoying.

While I can sit here and say, you know what, I don't think I can pull of __ "alpha thing"__ , ( yet) but I sure as shit know it CAN be done, and easily.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I go through phases, it's usualy BPP who dials me back in to the fact that, These men know not what they are capable of

[–]PhoneticJustice 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't know I needed this thread. Great post.

[–]nastynickdr 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Also be careful to notice when its a real apology or just another shit test.

My ex LTR would go "Im sorry for being a bitch earlier", I would say something like "Its ok, you had a rough day" and she would go "Dont you have something else to say?" wanting me to say im sorry as well to make things "even". Oh well, like the spineless bitch I was I would usually do it.

[–]drty_pr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I'm sorry that you don't understand why I have nothing to be sorry for"

[–]2gunsgetsome [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Dont you have something else to say?"

Yes. I love… … cake.

[–]jm51 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guy I know does this. Interrupts people, says or posts tactless shit etc. and thinks a simple 'Sorry' after the fact absolves him.

At a mutual friends place, I was sat next to him while he was playing a song on guitar. It was late, I got out my phone and called a taxi. He complained about it when he finished the song. I gave a mumbled 'Sorry'. He kept complaining. 'Hey, I said sorry. That means whatever I did is ok now, like the way you can keep interrupting people and it's all ok because you say sorry afterwards.

[–]Coniferous_88 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excellent advice. There is a lot of weight carried in the subtlety of that distinction. Dovetails perfect with what the BPP talks about in his book when he discusses the difference between withdrawing your attention vs. withdrawing your presence.

[–]rocknrollchuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Great post! Excellent way to describe the difference, with good examples too.

Regarding the proverbial "Does this dress make me look fat?" question, Athol Kay gives a great answer in his book "How To Answer Do These Pants Make My Ass Look Fat and Get Laid Like Tile":

There comes a time in every man’s life, when the woman he is involved with asks the dreaded question.

“Do these pants make my ass look fat?” (DTPMMALF)

Guys tend to be simple creatures with basic needs. Feed us, let us have a place to sleep and some form of entertainment and we usually run at 95% of maximum happiness. Most guys will automatically attempt to answer any question with a one word answer. Unfortunately the only words that spring to mind are either “yes” or “no.”

Answering “yes” is of course a terrible choice. If you can’t figure out why on your own, you’re probably not salvageable as a male. (Also those kids calling you Dad probably aren’t yours either – just a heads up)

Answering “no” is not the relationship suicide that answering “yes” is, but if you watch her face carefully you will not see any enjoyment in hearing a “no” answer. “No” is not the right answer, somehow you have failed.

Occasionally someone will attempt to answer DTPMMALF by neither answering “yes” nor “no” and advancing a cautious “maybe” as an answer. The Maybe Gambit does work as an answer, but – and this is important – it works only if you are her girlfriend or a gay friend.

You answering “maybe” just makes you seem completely developmentally delayed. You are expected to have strong well formed opinions on the state of her body. Have you been paying attention to her at all?

The other attempted answer is the It’s All In Your Head Defense where you explain that she is somehow mentally unstable for asking the question. This is the best of the answers so far, but is essentially an insult at heart and drives the two of you a little further apart. Don’t use it.

The Actual Question Being Asked

Having covered what not to answer DTPMMALF with, it’s time to find out what to answer DTPMMALF with. Let’s break down DTPMMALF into something simple enough for the average guy to understand. When she says,

“Do these pants make my ass look fat?”

You should hear, “Xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxx xx ass xxxx xxx?”

Removing the verbal clutter, it is summarized to, “ass?”

The correct response to that question is your first and natural response. I.e. “yes of course I’d like some ass.” Remember how the “no” answer didn’t please her? See how you screwed that up now?

So how do you answer DTPMMALF - and get laid.

Give her your best I’m-a-sly-dog-naughty-boy smile. Hold the smile and make eye contact for at least 3–5 seconds until she stops whatever she is doing and pays complete attention to you. Then say…

“I don’t know. I would have to see your ass without the pants.” Then just wait expectantly, continuing to hold eye contact.

Now What Happens?!?!

One of two things will happen. Either she takes the pants off or she doesn’t. If she takes them off… close the deal. If she doesn’t take them off she should have at least smiled letting you know you answered the question correctly. That means good things will happen to you from her in the near future. Don’t be a twit and blow it.

Warning About Answering DTPMMALF Correctly: Women only ask this question when they are in the fertile part of their monthly cycle.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

“Do these pants make my ass look fat?” You should hear, “Xx xxxxx xxxxx xxxx xx ass xxxx xxx?”

no, you aren't fully correct.

The correct interpretation of the question is :

" Do you still want to fuck me?"

The correct answer is

you : " come here..."

Her: "bla bla no what" eyeroll

" come here"

have her turn around.

slap her butt, pinch her butt, put your hands around her and kiss her neck. What ever.

the right answer is show her that you still want her.

Now, if you do not want her...

Why is she there?

[–]fidelity_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was asked this question once and it was as a joke because she's wire thin. My response was to tell her "hell yeah it does" and I pulled her close and bit her ass and pulled off her pants. Only response needed.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

assmuncher.

good one

[–]sunthas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rocknrollchuck was just quoting the book

[–]drty_pr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The last time I apologized was in the summer when I blew a firecracker up in a flower pot and covered her in dirt. Albeit was a laughing apology, it was necessary.

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

LPT:

Like the proverbial "Does this dress make me look fat?" question

"Babe, it's not the dress it's your ass."

She'll learn to stop asking stupid questions after that.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

there are no stupid questions.

Only people who dont want to take the opportunity presented.

:-)