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Having trouble dealing with the Rotom Pokedex blinking at me constantly while I try to play SuMo... (self.nintendo)

Grumpy_Kong が 投稿

Anyone else really bothered by this? A pair of blinking eyes staring back just in my peripheral vision as I play is really throwing off my enjoyment.

To the point that I'm making a cloth flap to drop over it.

I wouldn't really care if they were just there, unblinking.

The thing is I keep getting flicks of movement out of the corner of my vision, so I glance down, breaking game immersion.

Who at Nintendo thought this was a good idea?

As a concept, having a Rotom as your pokedex is kind of interesting, and gives a good story point for various pokedex tutorial possibilities.

With the current implementation, it is distracting and seriously negatively impacting my enjoyment of the game.

Any one else feel this way? What kind of workarounds have you come up with?

EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

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[–]DonkaFjord 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think the Rotom face is pretty adorable- I wish it actually had more interactivity, though.

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Again, I like the story concept and interactivity that a living pokedex brings, I just want an option to keep it from blinking at me all of the time.

EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

[–]DonkaFjord 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, we might be losing the second screen entirely in future handhelds. It might not be a problem in future titles, but I am worried about a cluttered UI.

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What I would like to see would be a handheld with a detachable back that is a battery and a second touchscreen, bluetooth linked or reversible (can act as extra triggers on the back when plugged in), so you can put your status screen anywhere.

Because there have been too many good *DS games made with a second always on status screen. Especially RPGs benefit from this and I'd hate to see this functionality lost in handhelds.

That said, there are enough wonderful *DS games out that I don't feel a pressing need to upgrade (and I own at least 2 of every one since the Gameboy) anytime soon.

TBH this gen of pokemon just doesn't feel like an upgrade.

The grass textures are worse, the facial textures have fewer pixels on the over world models.

The menu system is much laggier than in Alpha/Omega (and I'm playing on a 3DSXL)

The beginning part drags you by the nose, I'm at route 2 and still stuck following flags.

I like the new pokemons themselves, even the starting area creatures are fun and play just enough like older gens that it is easy to see the patterns.

The trainer fights are laughably easy, and I say this as a person who plays 'screw type advantages, I want fun pokemon' nearly exclusively.

And that friking rotom...

This game is truly disappointing me so far. Maybe I'll change my tune once I unlock more content.

At this point, I'm really dreading having to 'follow the fishhook' until the good content is available.

I hate that I have to wait till Jan to get to my bank.

I'm really thinking about just going back to Sapphire and wondertrading some legendaries just to raise my spirits.

That said, I'll finish it and if it gets better I'll come back and edit my post. As it stands now I regret pre-ordering Pokemon for the first time in existence.

EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

[–]apaulo13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea if I was a toddler

[–]BlueJoshi 18ポイント19ポイント  (40子コメント)

I'm more annoyed that it keeps telling me what to do and showings where to go. Let me figure this shit out for myself, game.

[–]Bucky_Jibak 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, if there's a sequel I hope they add custom to turn it off or something.

[–]BlueJoshi 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man, there's a bunch of stuff I'd love to turn off in pokemon, haha.

[–]cherryb6mb 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

On a psychological standpoint, I completely agree with you. I have this issue where if I see someone/thing blink, I am instantly reminded to start manually blinking, to the point where I can't stop, my eyes start burning, and I get really upset and frustrated. I can't tune things out like a lot of people can (noises, lights, etc.) and it sucks.

I keep trying to play Moon again and again, but seeing the blinking in the corner of my vision makes me almost have a mental breakdown.

I have tried using opaque tape, and it works, but then it covers parts of the menu or combat screens, and makes it almost as annoying. Using a cloth/cardboard flap is really inconvenient, since I have to constantly remove it to see the screens.

If there was an option to disable Rotom, or be able to put just the menus on the bottom screen instead, I'd enjoy the game much more. It probably sounds silly to people without this issue, but I nearly get frustrated to almost tears when I'm constantly reminded to blink manually. If he didn't blink, I'd have ZERO issues. Hopefully they consider an interchangeable Rotom map -> menu screen patch, for the minority like me.

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

You know it is really funny how crucified I got when this first was posted, and now how many people have come out agreeing with me.

Makes me wonder if the initial naysayers were actually nintendo PR management shills...

And before that day, I'd never have considered nintendo to sink so low.

I guess its true, forum manipulation is ubiquitous, ambiguous, and will be a part of online discussions forevermore.

I've found the same problem with the cloth cover I was using, it is just too inconvenient to keep flipping up and down during play.

I'm trying to find a direct way to contact nintendo about this, and am getting nowhere...

EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

[–]cherryb6mb 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was browsing this thread, and most of the complaints just seem to be from people who are able to tune out possible distractions. Someone who can do it so naturally probably feels like anyone can do it as easily as them, and therefore, the people who can't are just not trying hard enough.

I don't think Nintendo workers would go out of their way to so strongly defend something that is already live. The people against it most likely already bought the game, and almost every place won't offer full refunds for opened games.

I never post on Reddit, and it took me 3 days after release to find a post like this and contribute, since it is legitimately driving me insane now as well. Hopefully we can find a way to petition to have it where the menu can replace Rotom if we choose to do so.

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for replying to this, you and the others today have let me know that I many not be as insane as I worried about.

That said, if I do find a legit company-facing place to post this, I'll forward you the link.

EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

[–]dingodilem8 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Seing as some of those "agreing" with you came many days later, on a dead buried thread and some are 20- karma users who never posted in this sub, it makes it look like the shill is you. I did heard of people selling their accounts to pr companies and it seem like you're one of those.

In fact after coming back to read the clusterfuck you made in this thread, I'm 100% you're a paid shill, because that your level of dedication for disagreing ain't free.

[–]20VivillonOn a permanent vacation in Alola 17ポイント18ポイント  (9子コメント)

If anything, I'd be bothered if the eyes didn't blink.

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

If they didn't blink, they'd just fade into the background like the touchpad screen is supposed to do for 90% of gameplay.

EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

[–]20VivillonOn a permanent vacation in Alola 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well, now I know for sure that you're the kind of person who can't deal with contrasting opinions.

[–]DreamLimbo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a lot of people are missing the point of what you're saying, but I get it. I don't have Pokemon Sun/Moon, but I could definitely see that distracting me. Non-blinking eyes would maybe be creepy, but I doubt it would distract people in the way that having inconsistent movement on the bottom screen would. It's sort of the same principle of how Chinese water torture works, though obviously to a much lesser degree.

EDIT: Have you heard of hyperawareness? Some people have it to different degrees, but not everyone experiences it which I think is why a lot of people in this thread don't know what you're getting at.

[–]apaulo13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And he blinks so much

[–]umichuu 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand. It seems there are few in number that have this sort of problem or something similar. Some people are physically and/or mentally bothered to some degree by certain bright lights or blinking lights in peripheral vision.

My eyes are too light sensitive. Electrical tape has cured many blinking external drives, controllers, and so on. I'll hope enough people complain so they patch in a dimmable option of some sort or something that would help it not randomly steal your focus. I won't count on that though.

[–]St0rmzx 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Had trouble focusing with the blinking as well. I kinda solved it with a folded post it note covering the eyes. Can easily push it up when I battle.

[–]ShivHanna 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

So far none of the menuing shown in Sun/Moon has impressed me. I feel like it's a downgrade, with Rotom being a big time offender.

[–]apaulo13 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agreed the dex in Omega ruby was my favorite and the dex nav why make such an awesome feature and just drop it plus way better interaction menus and why is everything a Pokémon that's dumb

[–]ShivHanna 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also where are my quick select items on Y?

[–]apaulo13 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't stand it I'm not a toddler don't need a big cartoon face and it's so distracting and why are the eyes so big put more of the map there it's bad design and it bugs me this made it into the finale design at all

[–]MicrosoftWord2010 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

After reading through OP's replies and tendency to attack people who disagree with them, and then call them shills for not agreeing, I'm so goddamn glad that the Pokedex does that. SO GLAD.

[–]JJAB91 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

But it bothers other people too :c

[–]KVKH 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad to see i'm not alone with this issue. I already consider to stop playing the game after playing it for only two hours or so. Blinking just hurts my eyes.

I wanted to like the game, and enjoyed it a lot before this problem came up. It's sad how such a small thing makes otherwise good game unplayable for me. I hope they fix this as soon as possible.

[–]JamesEpep 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly haven't even noticed them blinking. I'm enjoying this gen so far. The tutorial in the beginning is a bit much but I'm enjoying myself so far

[–]Miss_Sweetie_Poo 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

At first I thought it was pretty cute.

Now it is just annoying...

[–]HyruleCoolTOP SNEK 7ポイント8ポイント  (18子コメント)

You really can't just not focus on it? I forgot the things eyes even blinked. It seems your problem is that you're giving it too much attention. You're acting pretty paranoid.

[–]EpicShowdowns 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You don't consciously draw your attention to it. The human eye evolved to be attracted to movement. You must have poor eyesight if you don't notice it.

[–]HyruleCoolTOP SNEK 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I noticed it when I first started playing, but as time went on I guess I just got used to it. It's not that odd to subconsciously ignore something once you've been exposed to it for a while.

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

You're acting pretty paranoid.

Uh, I didn't say 'The Rotom is watching me and reporting back my battle tactics to goblins under the sink', I said 'The animation is annoying and distracting, in my peripheral vision and making the game less enjoyable.

But it's my fault, I guess, for having an active peripheral vision amirite?

How dare I criticize Game Freak for adding this unnecessary and annoying UI addition, right? Where the hell do I get off actually wanting a pleasant game experience?

How about if I hung a little disco ball right off the edge of your main vision tunnel for a few hours a day and see how you like it?

[–]HyruleCoolTOP SNEK -3ポイント-2ポイント  (10子コメント)

Sorry I viciously attacked you with my vulgar comment. Allow me too make amends

Awwwww. I'm so sowwy. It must be hard to have such an active vision, lets start a petition forcing those meanines at Nintendo to update the so his eyes don't move!

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

Dude, what the hell is your problem?

[–]HyruleCoolTOP SNEK 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

You're the one that went on a mini rant over one small thing I said. You acted like a child, so I answered with sarcasm.

[–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

Do you not remember these words?

You're acting pretty paranoid.

And calling someone paranoid about a video game is a sure-fire way to win friends and have whole roomfuls of people stand and clap, right? right?

And still you're on it:

You acted like a child,

You've literally contributed nothing to this entire discussion other than 'lol ignore it' and personal attacks.

In fact, I'm having trouble thinking of just one reason I shouldn't +block you as I can't imagine you ever contributing to anything on reddit other than lulz.

And I certainly have enough of that in my life already...

So I'll give you one more chance, why shouldn't I block you?

[–]HyruleCoolTOP SNEK 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

I didn't mean it as a personal attack, but ok. Honestly you make me sound like a troll even though I was completely serious in my initial post. You also got really defensive when all I did was disagree with you. I honestly don't care if you block me or not. My life will go on without you. I've got more than enough friends and family. So good bye.

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    [–]TrainAss[M] 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

    How about we remain civil.

    [–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    How about I just delete this thread because the only discussion going on here is 'Lol just don't look at it'?

    Seriously, I cannot believe that I am the only person this is bugging, but the replies seem to indicate that I'm way off-base.

    Which is funny because I am now finding that there are a lot of threads on other forums that echo my sentiment, yet here on reddit, the advertiser's paradise, any negative feedback is automatically dogpiled with asshats like the above.

    /r/hailcorporate

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      [–]HyruleCoolTOP SNEK 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Yeah its really not that big of a deal. I've given up on r/nintendo. Most people downvote you for having a general argument and accuse you of trolling or attacking them.

      [–]dingodilem8 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Yeah, it's like a herd mentality that's not healthy for discussions. I mostly lurk way more than I post and I do see some good threads and discussion, but also kids who would throw a hissy-fit for someone merely even disagreing with irrelevant petty stuff, like this one. Funnily enough he was attacking the pokemon sub for not doing just that too.

      Edit: he also talked to me like if refusing to reply me is some kind of punishment, as if he was relevant in some way or form to a complete stranger like me would be a terrible thing. Guess it wasn't OCD after all.

      [–]HyruleCoolTOP SNEK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I was looking through some of their comments earlier and he/she seems to just be one of those people that like to stir the pot. I reported them but oh well, the mods aren't gonna do anything about it.

      [–]The_UnderQueen 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Lol dude ok

      [–]Orgnolf 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I have the same issue. Let's hope Nintendo somehow decides to add an option to either dim the bottom screen, disable blinking eyes or replace the bottom screen with a vanilla menu.

      [–]KooperGuy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I agree totally, really annoying and distracting.

      Anything we can do about it?

      [–]Mr_Zoovaska 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

      Can't you make it show a map or something?

      [–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

      It does show the map in its mouth, and that is useful for navigating.

      The thing is, still has the eyes randomly blinking above it...

      Unless I'm missing a menu option, or it shuts off at some point in the game that I haven't reached yet...

      EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

      [–]Mr_Zoovaska 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Gee that does sound annoying

      [–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I've been playing Pokemon since Gen 1 and I think this is going to be the first title I'll be unable to complete.

      Its worse that that freaking tweet notification in Cities: Skyline.

      At least you can mod the latter one away...

      I've never once hacked my gameboy, or manipulated carts (other than messing around in an emulator for experimentation). This is making me consider it, even if it brings the risk of getting my ID banned.

      It's that bad...

      EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

      [–]Worldsapart30 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Really? You're going to skip this amazing game over a pair of eyes occasionally blinking?

      [–]apaulo13 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes

      [–]Grumpy_Kong[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I'm trying very hard to play it (right now even) but I can't 'get lost in the game' because I keep having these blinking eyes in my peripheral vision.

      I usually game 2-3 hours a day with barely an interruption.

      So far I've had to put the game away after about 20 - 30 minutes or so and play something else when the distraction becomes too annoying to deal with. It 'builds up', being barely noticeable at first and growing until I can't deal with it any more.

      It's like a pebble in your shoe that gets bigger every time you step on it...

      I can't see myself doing this for the 40 or so hours it'll take to complete.

      EDIT: THIS THREAD GOT ME BANNED FROM /r/NINTENDO

      [–]apaulo13 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Couldn't of said it better I then think of how dumb the idea was anyway technology was cool in Pokémon world but if everything is a Pokémon it's just dumb

      [–]EpicShowdowns 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I'm honestly considering returning the game. It's that distracting. I hope that Nintendo is at least considering a patch for this.

      [–]umichuu 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Pressing X brings up that menu, during which you cannot control your player character. Instead, the bottom screen should just be switchable between the rotom-dex and the menu screen.

      [–]cherryb6mb 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Completely agree with making the Rotom map and the menu permanently interchangeable. I keep trying to play this game, but I have a problem where I can't tune ANYTHING out like normal people can, and it ruins many things for me daily. I shouldn't have this problem in video games, and every time I try to play Moon, I see the eyes constantly blinking, reminding me to manually blink the entire time, and it gives me a mental breakdown.

      [–]apaulo13 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Agreed I keep trying to play but it's so distracting and it takes all the fun out of it considering just returning it as well