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High-qualityFinal Response Megathread (self.EnoughTrumpSpam)

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We have some very fine folks on this subreddit who have taken it upon themselves to do some research on a wide amount of topics. This is a collection of all of our "final responses" to certain topics, which will be updated as we move forward. Please tell me if I have missed any, and just message us if we forget to add yours to this list in the future.

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Again, please do tell me if I missed anything.

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[–][deleted] 100ポイント101ポイント  (20子コメント)

Thanks mods and this subreddit, for a comprehensive and detailed list of facts!

[–]CasuallyCreative 62ポイント63ポイント  (17子コメント)

Sadly, most Trump supporters will go through some serious mental gymnastics to explain all of this.

[–]KnowKnee 53ポイント54ポイント  (3子コメント)

When people reject the definition of 'fact', I stop talking. A fact is not debatable.

Except on a particular subreddit, the earth is round. I think it's a great idea when people who dispute established facts like that stay in their own, little, deluded world. I wish other fact-disputers would do the same.

The sun will rise tomorrow no matter how loudly and frequently someone screams that the fact of sunrise is left-leaning and doesn't apply to the right. The sun doesn't give a fuck. Grow up. Truth is truth, even when we hate it.

[–]imitationpro 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Truth is truth, even when we hate it."

Truth - Hillary is a criminal and probably the most evil woman to ever live

[–]Diana51592 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's right, 25 years of Republican investigations and her entire life of service to women, children and people of color all lead to the 'fact' she is, in fact, Lex Luthor in drag. She means to take over the world while killing Truth Justice and the American way. With all that in mind, please explain with links and real facts how she is 'evil' and how she is more evil than (reaching into my pot of actual historical people) Elizabeth Bathory? I could drag out more, but I figure you probably will spend enough time trying to drag up just that one, when she is quite famous. Opinions are not facts. What you posted is an opinion that bears no resemblence to reality outside of comic book villainary.

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[–]Vladimir_Putins_Cock 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

Trump himself has made it pretty clear he doesn't give a shit about facts. I don't expect his supporters to either

[–]san_serifsI voted! 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not about facts, it's about what he feels the facts should be.

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[–]IamanIT 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got banned from the_donald with a message to "find something that hasn't been debunked" when i posted some of these facts. like, i just sent you links to literally everything, really?

[–]CrookedHoss 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I got banned from there for 'trolling' and 'picking fights' when I said that immigrants do work that native citizens don't want to do, and provided sources to back up my claims...

But not before I got accused of advocating for slavery, of all mind-boggling things.

[–]PM_ME_HOT_YURI 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah its the same with brexit. the immigrants more often than not have a way better work ethic aswell

[–]trump_is_antivaxx 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

the_donald: now with more mental gymnasts than the Special Olympics.

[–]swagpapiswag 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

So would Bernie, Hillary or anyone really. Alot of the posts in "Trump is a racist" posts are strawman. They talk about people supporting Trump, his family etc. I will admit, some of them do have merit. But alot of them are some bullshit conspiracy too

[–]The_Follower1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I somewhat agree, but at the same time when almost all of those people look at D'ump and think "I like that guy's ideas." then you really need to take a long, hard look because there's obviously a problem there.

[–]san_serifsI voted! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all sleazy dishonest Reddit's fault.

[–]MikkyfinN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bah!! They won't bother to read any of it! LoL it's all the Librul media😳

[–]epicblob 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Facts? More than /r/the_Donald can say.

[–]barktreepI voted! 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

mods=librarians

[–]RedCanadaI cucked John Miller[M] 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yo /u/v12a12 can you add Debunking the Hillary Clinton KKK meme., which is debunking the Hillary kissing Robert Byrd photophop that Trump marks like to spread everywhere all the time under the bonus section? Thanks!

[–]marisam7 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

I made another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4uapwn/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/

[–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very high quality; added.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Please add this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4peon0/reminder_that_donald_trump_is_an_accused/

It's sort of like a final response to "Tell me why Trump is a pedophile"

[–]NerdFighter40351 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

He made another one. https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4ufond/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/

[–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Added. What a god.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also, this might be good to add:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4oc5xr/reminder_that_trump_is_a_climate_change_denier_50/

The formatting isn't very good but it's basically a final response to "Tell me why Trump is a climate change denier".

[–]dont_cuck_on_menot even american but fuck the spam 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And it's gone because fuck hillary clinton.

[–]KabIoski 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mods: if you ever unsticky this, it needs to be added to the sidebar.

[–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will be sidebarred soon.

[–][deleted] 17ポイント18ポイント  (9子コメント)

Just throwing the idea out there. It would be nice to have a final response for, "why Hillary is objectively a better choice than Trump" or "why Trump is way worse than Hillary". Specifically for the Berners who claim that both Clinton and Trump are "equally as bad".

[–]YodaGandalfDumbled0rFlipflopper 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's r/EnoughHillHate's job.

[–][deleted] 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

I don't think we should try to cause division in this subreddit... We are united by our displeasure in Trump's campaign and T_D, let's not try to make it so we bring in to question whether or not we like Hillary or Sanders or Stein or Johnson, or whoever it is.

If something like this were to happen, I know users like myself could possibly leave (if it gets to the point that it's basically "you're with us or against us").

Whoever we support doesn't matter; it's about who we don't want in the White House (Trump).

[–]Sir_Marcus 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

What we have here on this subreddit is a rainbow coalition of people united in opposition to the fascist Trump. We are republicans and democrats, libertarians and communists, muslims and jews.

Just like the Allied Powers put aside their differences to stop the Third Reich, we too must stand together to stop the alt-reich.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish I wasn't poor so I could give you gold.

[–]Matthypaspist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But once this election is over can we aim nuclear weapons at each other?

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

What's the point of hating Trump if we aren't supporting the means to stop him from becoming president. This isn't about liking Hillary or Bernie. (I'm a Bernie supporter whose voting Hillary) It's about recognizing that Trump has to be stopped and Clinton is the only viable option to do get that done.

I'm not advocating this sub become pro Hillary. I'm just saying it would be nice to have a resource to use for the, "Hillary is just as bad as Trump" argument. She's objectively better, and Trump is objectively the worst human being to ever come this close to the presidency.

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's fine for a sub like r/enoughhillhate, but I don't really want to cause those of us who are anti-Clinton to be put off by this sort of talk. Remember, we have conservatives who are here, and I kinda doubt they are super for Hillary.

It would also give T_D more proof for their ridiculous claim that we are a Hillary-funded group.

I like how this sub has been. They created flairs for people of all different candidates, right or left, and hasn't been pushing for the election of one candidate over another.

Maybe Clinton is better than Trump, but I think the purpose of this sub should stay as to show that Trump and TD are terrible.

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't feel that I'm disagreeing with anything you're saying. Again, I'm not advocating that this sub change in anyway. I don't want for people to start posting pro Hillary stuff here. I was just suggesting a resource for that particular argument. I don't think having it would impact the sub in any way, but whatever, you have a point. r/enoughhilhate would probably be a better sub. Fuck Trump. That's all that matters.

[–]TheDarkAgniRises -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

PLEASE! SOMEONE NOT AS LAZY AS WE ARE! AND DONT HALF ASS IT, WHOLE ASS IT! Imagine how much money CTR will give us when we can just simply link haters to that 'final response,' efficiency will increase by 100%, we'll be fucking DROWNING in $hillbucks!

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has ETS just created a WMD?

[–]iamdigidude#ScotBaioLivesMatter 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well we're fucked.

[–]Wateriswet1212 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for this final response megathread!

[–]debtblag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure why this isn't called a #magathread. Seems like a real missed opportunity there

[–]ForeverDia5 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think posts get fewer upvotes if you sticky them tbh. I for one often overlook them. Good post anyway, thanks.

[–]v12a12Literally Shill[S,M] 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't care about upvotes; I do hope that people do see this, and stickying makes a post gain traction faster than a non-stickied post.

[–]HideNZeke 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

but you aren't gonna get r/all to see it without the karma

[–]nice_memexDI voted! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

pls make this the one post on this sub that is permanently stickied. these posts are the most important things on this sub and are the first things newcomers joining us and those who oppose us should see

[–]Illpaco 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

MODS = GODS!

But seriously, this is the kind of organization this sub needs in order to become more relevant. I'm glad to see a step in the right direction.

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

can this be a perma-sticky? I am so sick and tired of repeating myself to people.

[–]ilovekingbarrett 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

why does "important stuff" and "further reading" lead to old articles/not as good posts when this is the stuff that gets tweeted by steve yeum or whatever the fuck? this should be the big text link on the sidebar to be totally honest, or at least, one of these should.

[–]Renato_LopesI will let you know that I have a PC 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

will you update this based on the last 3 debates?

[–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't update the individual threads.

[–]Renato_LopesI will let you know that I have a PC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean this topic

[–]iCapa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, shit.

[–]trump_is_antivaxx 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Are pro-Clinton (as opposed to anti-Trump) final responses wanted? In particular I was thinking of creating a final response to the email and Benghazi claims, and maybe some other conspiracy theories.

However, if this sub is only anti-Trump and not pro-Clinton that's cool and I'll post it in the Clinton subs instead.

Anyway, absolutely fantastic work and a big thank you to everyone who helped contribute!

Another concept: Trumptrolls often claim that Clinton is a liar, which is hilarious if you consider Trump's record of speaking "untruths". This gives me the idea of creating "Tell me why Trump is a habitual liar".

[–]v12a12Literally Shill[S,M] 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

We are anti-Trump. If you can cite examples of Trump saying stuff about email/Benghazi claims, the post is allowed.

[–]trump_is_antivaxx 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair cop, guv. Better pull the finger out and get to work.

[–]Chrysalii 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes.

It would be useful for those who think "Trump may be bad, but Hillary is worse" I could cite the excellent work done in this series all day but it wouldn't break through that wall.

It might be better to post that on /r/enoughHillHate and then link to it from here.

[–]DylanTBest123 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was thinking of creating a final response to the email and Benghazi claims

Yes please. If not on this sub, somewhere else.

[–]insideofus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ultra high quality, this needs to be in the sidebar, this needs its own sub, this needs to be on the front page of /r/all days in a row

[–]namelessbanana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!

[–]witchwind 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Is the alt-right a Christian movement, or is it just based around bigotry, anger, and fear?

[–]Piglet86 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't think it was ever a christian movement as they have a major say in the republican party already.

It has its roots in libertarianism/an-caps but has been co-opted by outright fascists. Like legit neo-nazi, KKK, white supremacists types.

[–]ForeverDia5 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well kind of but also not. They coopt Christianity to some extent in order to push their idealized version of the "Western civilization" they claim is in crisis. You see this a lot on the internet with people having crusade themed profile pics talking about "repelling the Muslim invasion" etc.

But at its core the alt-right is a fascist movement. Fascists are generally irreligious (unless you count their fanatic belief in the nation state as a religion). They tend to repress religious movements or morph them to fit their agenda. They are definitely strongly opposed to liberal interpretations of Christianity, Christian democracy and Christian socialism.

[–]witchwind 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

They'd be a-OK with evangelicals and born-again Christians.

[–]ForeverDia5 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, definitely. It fits their traditionalism. I suppose if the US became fascist the evangelical churches would be supported so long as they co-operate and further the fascist agenda. No preaching of that "blessed are the poor" stuff or criticizing the state and the elite though.

[–]NoRefundsBernouts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bane?

[–]Inconvenienced 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alt-right is just code for neo-fascism.

[–]Unusual_Enemas -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where can I find the debunk on the DNC emails?

[–]Chrysalii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think one final piece of this series would be some explanation of how Trump got to the position he is in.

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    [–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't click; high chance of malware ^

    [–]marisam7 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I made another one:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4ufond/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/

    [–]nice_memexDI voted! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    GUYS: TAKE THIS TO /r/all

    [–]AnArcher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    LOL on the Mulan tidbit.

    [–]Aceofspades25 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Please add something addressing his lack of critical thinking and his tendency to believe in conspiracy theories and pseudoscience.

    Including climate change denial, being an anti-vaxxer, claiming a link between vaccines and autism, etc.

    There is some Info here: http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/58-donald-trump-conspiracy-theories-and-counting-definitive-trump-conspiracy-guide

    [–]mindfrom1215Make Y̶o̶u̶t̶u̶b̶e̶ Reddit Great Again 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Add the alt right one.

    [–]AutoModerator[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    tfw the Alt Right apparently aren't fascists

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    tfw the Alt Right apparently aren't fascists

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    [–]SXR-Wahrheit 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Is there or will there be a megathread about Trump inciting violence?

    [–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not that I know of.

    [–]I_AM_VARY_SMARHT 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks!

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    [–]IwillRize 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Glad this is on the sidebar.

    [–]cosmotheassman 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Hey, the link to the Climate Change denier thread is totally fucked.

    [–]dont_cuck_on_menot even american but fuck the spam 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah and for good reason.

    [–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fixed, thanks

    [–]Diana51592 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You forgot the mental blank space when it comes to Trump's upcoming pre-trial meeting in December for raping a 12 year old girl. No matter how many times I post a bevy of links for my friends who are Trump Followers, they come up with some grand conspiracy about how Hillary planted the girl. In June, before she was the nominee.

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      [–]Infu-P 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      yeah gg see you all in the apocalypse

      [–]SpaffyJimble 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just wanted to add some stuff about Islam:

      At one point, a third of Germany's (Holy Roman Empire at the time) entire population was wiped out in a war between Catholics and Protestants. This was called the Thirty Years' War. The Spanish Inquisition was a time when Spain persecuted all people of other religions including Judaism (which Christianity is really an extension of) and Islam (which is really just an extension of Christianity. They even call Jesus a great prophet). And you would be hard pressed to find any violent Muslims in any Western neighborhood. I live in the Netherlands, specifically in the city of Nijmegen. We have a decent Muslim minority. No issues.

      In past history, Christianity has killed more people by far. (www.quora.com/Which-religion-is-responsible-for-the-greatest-number-of-deaths-of-infidels-over-its-entire-history) There could be an argument that the Nazis were Christian as well, considering they bore the phrase "God is with us" on their uniform, but that is a very hard stretch.

      In today's history, Islam has started to seem more violent. But this isn't due to Muslims being predisposed to violence. What happened to the secular state of Iran, for example (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh)? The US (a nation mainly populated by Christians) decided to overthrow the secular, democratically elected government, and imposed a dictator, later overthrown by the religious zealots because he was as bad and as corrupt as Pinochet. Why though? Because big oil daddy Anglo-Persian Oil, now known as BP, told them to after Iran nationalized their oil to ensure that the benefits of Iran's natural resources, and this is a radical fucking idea right here, goes to the Iranian people. Europe did not survive due to Christianity or its culture. It survived despite of it. Jesus fucking Christ, pick up a book on European history. We Europeans are some of the most violent people on the fucking planet and this seven decades long stretch of mostly peace (Yugoslavia and the Eastern European revolutions in the 90s are an exception) is such a fucking anomaly and we have the UN and the EU to thank for this era of peace.

      [–]hotpinkrazr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Not every Trump supporter is a bigot! Some are Russian.

      [–]JamarcusRussel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      i made one about the tim kaine gift scandal a couple days ago

      [–]bast963 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

      You liberals are more facist than Trump himself

      You people think a Trump presidency is bad because "MUH RACISM" and that he will remove the Muslims/illegal Mexicans. There's a reason why you don't want him to remove those, and it's because you think white people aren't "people" and you want them to be equivalent to 1835 African American slaves. You want whitey eradicated as much as Trump wants to remove the refugees and illegals. Isn't that facism in of itself? Isn't that true racism right there?

      "BUT MUH REVERSE RAYCISM, MUH "FACISM" IS DEFINED AS REPUBLICAN"

      Of course they are, because you defined them that way. Reverse racism doesn't exist, read the original pre-2000 definition of "racism" again. Also liberals/democrats aren't immune to facism, saying you are makes you no different than North Korean government.

      You don't NEED to vote Hillary. She's going to go to war with Russia. We have a 20 trillion dollar debt, we can't afford to go to fucking war with Russia because media decided to blame the entirety of wikileaks' existence on Russia.

      Vote third party instead. Better than corrupt as fuck Hillary and her pay to win bribed news sources like CNN, Washington News/Times/Post, MSNBC, Telesur, NY Times and any smaller news corp owned by NY Times, etc. Better than Trump, Trump isn't even a fucking politician.

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      [–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

      You're responding to a two month old post man. I'm the only one who sees your comment. I don't really want to sort through your verbal onslaught of bullshit but I just want to tell you that you should check out your comment when you're older. Hopefully by then you'll realize the stupidity of what you are saying.

      [–]bast963 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Explain the problems with third party then. You guys are so busy being paid by the Clinton Foundation and smearing Trump that you probably can't even answer that question.

      [–]v12a12Literally Shill[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Johnson doesn't know shit about foreign policy and Jill Stein is Jill Stein.

      [–]justifiednoise 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I saw his comment, and I still think this sub and this thread will have relevance.

      I think it'd be really powerful if we do our best to archive all the trump related instances of race based violence and intimidation of women that have erupted immediately upon his win. There's already a number of news sources aggregating stories and content like that, but people like myself have their own stories of what is happening that we or our friends and family have witnessed.

      Male students in schools in Plymouth MI locking arms to form a 'wall' and proceeding to block latino girls from getting through. My home town of Ann Arbor's iconic 'rock' was scrawled with the message 'kill em all', though to be fair it's possible to interpret that as ALL politicians. I work with kids in souther california and they're telling me stories of their latino classmates simply beside themselves with tears in the middle of class because they're terrified their parents will be removed from their lives.

      If we do what we can to document the real and tangible aspects of racism and rape culture that are a direct result of Trump's campaign and viewpoints as well as how the policy affects America's citizens maybe, just maybe, we can enlighten some people on the other side to the fact that ...

      • “When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”