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articleFearing Trump intrusion the entire internet will be backed up in Canada to tackle censorship: The Internet Archive is seeking donations to achieve this feat (ibtimes.co.uk)

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[–]straydog1980 [スコア非表示]  (60子コメント)

Number of celebrities who have moved to Canada 0. Number of Internets that have moved to Canada 1

[–]Cramdime [スコア非表示]  (44子コメント)

It's still 0, they haven't done it yet. They better make sure they back up even the rarest of pepes.

[–]Nathafae [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Fuck that shit. I want them to lose as many pepes as possible to boost my portfolio.

[–]wombatjuggernaut [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You better have those bad boys backed up in case of hardware failure, I suggest doing so using the internet.

[–]sophistry13 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Start short selling pepes in the hopes that the price will fall and you'll be in profit.

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    [–]Cerinthus [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

    Not to worry. I'm Canadian with a full collection of ultra rare pepes on a flash drive in my safe

    [–]Kingjosho777 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Hopefully they don't forget the porn

    [–]Bob_the_Monitor [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    If they forgot the porn, there would be, like, 15 MB of internet left to save.

    [–]-Ponzis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I'm taking donations to backup the porn in my basement.

    [–]Pile_Drive_The_Baby [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

    Not with Trudeau as prime minister "It's a hate symbol!"

    [–]Daemon_Targaryen [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

    I really want rare pepe back from the alt right.

    [–]Pile_Drive_The_Baby [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

    That's not how memes work, anyone can use them, just cause some people you don't like use a meme doesn't make it "theirs". I really hate Hillary's campaign for pushing to get it labeled as a fucking hate symbol.

    I honestly think it was a big mistake, it just showed people how out of touch she was with the younger demographic.

    [–]DirtySpaceman93 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    Yeah, the whole Pepe = white supremacy thing is laughable and just sad.

    [–]faderjack [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    As much time as I spend on the interwebs, I had never seen a 'nazi' pepe until they started pushing to call it a hate symbol. Just lots of Trump pepes. I think it was a move to discredit r/T_D, honestly. Which seems a little crazy, that her campaign was so worried about a subreddit, but where else was popular enough for a cartoon frog to be causing problems for her?

    This was also at the same time she pushed the 'basket of deplorables' shit, attacking Trump supporters instead of Trump himself. "Let's just call everybody who doesn't support me a racist and misogynist. They'll be so ashamed they'll have to vote for me!" It seemed pretty delusional. Worst move of her campaign I'd say.

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      [–]MultipleBrexitWounds [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

      You cannot own the pepe market. That would lead to the creation of a systemically important Pepe institution. This would conflict with regulations against 'Too big to REEEE' as stipulated in the mandate of the Rare Pepe and Exchange Commission.

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        [–]rationalcomment [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

        This really is just a US company (Internet Archive) exploiting the liberal fearmongering to get more donation money.

        They were already backing up the Internet, they just want to create a backup in Canada (the liberal America's imagined heaven), and using Trump to mobilize liberals has been incredibly successful (see Jill Stein's failed recount drive). There is literally zero evidence whatsoever that Trump wants to shut their business down in any way or form.

        Meanwhile Canada is putting through actual laws that do censor the Internet

        [–]anoddhue [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

        There is literally zero evidence whatsoever that Trump wants to shut their business down in any way or form.

        Right, but he is against Net Neutrality which could indirectly affect Internet Archive or similar organizations.

        [–]32bb36d8ba [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

        Porn censorship in the uk

        The censorship regime has led to bizarre understandings between the producers and regulators, Barnett said. One is the “four-finger rule”, which limits the number of digits that can be inserted into an orifice for sexual stimulation.

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          [–]CanadianMooseRider [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          We did it guys! We stole the Internet!

          [–]adifferentmike [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          But they need your money first!

          [–]ExploreSanity [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

          Yeah, Obama trying to sell the internet to the UN for 8 years. I love the fake Bullshit fear. You people are delusional.

          [–]WorldCommunismNow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          Yeah, Obama trying to sell the internet to the UN for 8 years.

          Complain about fake bullshit, while spouting fake bullshit. Classy.

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            [–]Jester252 [スコア非表示]  (139子コメント)

            If you are worried that Trump might do something, you might not want to look at the UK.

            [–]jason8001 [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

            I thought the UK was already backing up the internet

            [–]Pile_Drive_The_Baby [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

            It's my firm belief that the UK porn ban is being pushed through by brits with victorian era ankle fetishes.

            "My word I think I spotted a bit of calf in that photo, how scandalous!"

            [–]hung-like-a-horse [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

            It's done to establish an efficient framework for censoring and controlling which parts of the internet citizens are and are not allowed to see. It starts with porn, but trust me, it doesn't end with porn.

            [–]MikeDubbz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            Don't you just love the hypocrisy too? "A fully naked body? The body in its natural state?! How awful! What if a child should see such a thing? Oh, but gun violence with people getting their brains blown out, that's cool, just put a mature rating on it and we don't have to worry about the children."

            I'm not saying I want violence censored necessarily, but come on, if there is one thing that the children should be shielded from, its pretty obvious what that should be.

            [–]sexualsidefx [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            I actually think fundamentalistism is spreading and soon we'll all be under sharia law one way or another. Christian sharia is still sharia.

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              [–]ArmedMilitia [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

              [fire emoji]

              [–]shadowjack00 [スコア非表示]  (63子コメント)

              I think if you check a map you will find that Canada is not in the UK.

              [–]Pile_Drive_The_Baby [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

              He's not saying that, he's saying that people are freaking out over Trump when there are already other first world nations attempting to censor the internet. It's more important to focus on problems that are occurring right now rather than worrying about a man who won't take office for months.

              Trump should not be the focus of this concern, the UK should be.

              [–]Elcatro [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

              One correction, the UK isn't attempting it, we're diving head first into this shit.

              If you actually care about privacy and other such rights on the internet then pay attention to this and help us.

              [–]WeylandTheDwarf [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              How? I can't really vote for such matters there. I'm not capable of protesting there. I could pay money towards it, but things are tight and you can only pay to so many causes anyways.

              [–]Milleuros [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              It's more important to focus on problems that are occurring right now rather than worrying about a man who won't take office for months.

              It's always more efficient to prevent a disease rather than curing it.

              Anyways, Reddit discussions cannot achieve either.

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                [–]peopleareawful32 [スコア非表示]  (28子コメント)

                Canada loves censorship, and are headed in the direction of the UK, not the same, but his point still has merit.

                [–]Drfuzzyballs [スコア非表示]  (26子コメント)

                Yup, can confirm. Our government is about to pass a law that makes it hate speech if you don't call someone by their preferred pronoun.

                [–]DandyBoyFapples [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

                I've always thought the whole SJW thing was blown out of proportion, are you actually serious about that law?

                [–]rocks_rocc [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                LOL WUT? How will that even be enforced, maybe I'm just too American but someone can't tell you how to talk.

                [–]MemoryLapse [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                Because the other thing we have are these nonsense "Human Rights Tribunals" that can inflict binding penalties on you, even though there are no judges involved. Hell, most of the people on the tribunals aren't even lawyers; they have literally no legal training. Forget jurisprudence; you just got arbitrated!

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                  [–]approx- [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                  My god, what is this world coming to?

                  [–]getinthechopper [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                  Canada already has a "truth tribunal". Doesn't get more Orwellian than that. Also, Trudeau is a big Castro fan boy, which is either based on ignorance or a dangerous self-righteousness.

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                      [–]MonkeyDJinbeTheClown [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                      Clearly you never passed geography class. Canada is the largest of the 14 states in the UK. Formed after the UK had a war with its neighbour, Bangladesh, fought across the Caspian Sea. It was the first war to have documented usage of the aeroplane, and ended with the annexation of Canada and 3 Sri Lankan islands, in 1753.

                      [–]shadowjack00 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      I was sick the day we covered that in Math class.

                      [–]Dillno [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                      This sounds really interesting. What was the name of the conflict? I'd like to read about it.

                      [–]janlaureys9 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      But how can we be sure ?

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                        [–]OldirtySapper [スコア非表示]  (57子コメント)

                        Right I haven't heard shit about trump shutting down. The net. That was all the Democrat globalist and the eu. Besides Obama already surrendered the internet to the EU. They just try so hard to make trump out worse than he is. It's kinda sad.

                        [–]fuzzwhatley [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                        "Obama already surrendered the internet to the EU"??

                        Holy fuck what does that even mean. Where are you getting your information from?

                        [–]WhirlinMerlin [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                        Something about giving previously US controlled internet things to the EU to do whatever you do with those internet things.

                        I'll see if I can find an article.

                        Edit: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/america-to-hand-off-internet-in-under-two-months/article/2599521

                        I have literally no idea what any of it means and the intrusive ads are horrible on the linked site, but it's there.

                        [–]Augustus_Caesar1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                        What was handed off was the naming system used and technically they were already doing it.

                        It's not by any means or methods "handing off the internet".

                        [–]Up_Trumps_All_Around [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        It means the other guy wasn't particularly familiar with the internet, but still wanted another reason to dislike Obama.

                        What happened is we handed off ICANN to the UN, whereas before it was a non profit run in the US. People are worried the UN might tamper with the DNS at the whims of more censorship friendly countries, which is unlikely.

                        Why it doesn't matter is you can simply pick your own DNS root.

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                          [–]teamstepdad [スコア非表示]  (45子コメント)

                          He literally said he wants to "close up parts" of the internet. Pay better attention.

                          [–]MURICA_BITCH [スコア非表示]  (32子コメント)

                          What parts did he want shut down?

                          [–]teamstepdad [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

                          He doesn't know, of course. He was just bloviating as usual. He said "to help stop terror" and he said that Bill Gates should be the one to do it. LOL

                          [–]tyzan11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          Trump is in his 70s. While he seems to get social media and such fairly well for his age I doubt he knows jack about the actual workings of the internet. Compared to what I've seen other politicians pushing in the last couple years this is relatively tame. Especially since all the wikileaks drops on Clinton and now the talk on "fake news" I've been seeing some crazy pro-censorship shit coming from capital hill and the TV networks.

                          [–]MURICA_BITCH [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                          Did he mean to stop certain areas where they can communicate? Because that doesn't sound unreasonable. Or like he's shutting down parts of the Internet

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                            [–]Jesjoenf [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                            Well given Trump's usual rhetorical style, it's hard to say. His quote was:

                            Trump: ISIS is recruiting through the Internet. ISIS is using the Internet better than we are using the Internet and it was our idea. I want to get the brilliant people from Silicon Valley and other places and figure out a way that ISIS can't do what they're doing.

                            Wolf Blitzer: Are you open to closing parts of the Internet?

                            Trump: I would certainly be open to closing areas where we are at war with somebody. I sure as hell don't want to let people that want to kill us and kill our nation use our Internet. Yes sir, I am.

                            So in terms of actual policies or concrete ideas, there's not a lot there. Trump's words could be twisted to mean any number of things.

                            What I would say is clear is: he's a fucking idiot, and he's open to the idea of censoring the net or putting some big ol' firewalls in place. Which should be scary enough by itself.

                            [–]likestobreakthings [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                            Being open to it is not the same as him saying that's what he is going to do though.

                            I'm open to barricading the front door of my apartment if it were necessary to keep people out, that doesn't necessarily mean I am going to do it.

                            [–]mlem64 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                            I mean, that's very vague. Isis does indeed recruit from the internet. Closing down sites that allow it to happen sounds like a decent idea to me.

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                                  [–]PCKeith [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                  Nobody has to try to make the President-Elect worse than he is. He is terrible on his own merits.

                                  [–]Milleuros [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  Obama already surrendered the internet to the EU

                                  ... What the hell?

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                                      [–]Hawkfan86 [スコア非表示]  (82子コメント)

                                      "Were gonna build a hyyuuuuge firewall and make Canada pay for it"

                                      [–]Shuliak [スコア非表示]  (23子コメント)

                                      I don't think trump knows what a firewall is.

                                      [–]alflup [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                      thank the gods

                                      [–]PresidentBartlet2016 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                      Yeah but his son knows the cyber so he will just ask him to cyber up a firewall, it's really that simple he has the best people.

                                      [–]The_Godly_Gill [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                      I hate how everyone just assumed that trump is retarded. This man just won the presidency. This is not some cartoon where someone can just accidentally stumble into the office. He manipulated almost half the population into making him the president. He may not be the smartest man in the world, but he was smart enough to tap into emotions that some people didn't even know existed. Every "stupid tweet" had a reason behind it. He managed to run a campaign that catered to a wider range of people than the Democrats could. I wouldn't be surprised if he had purposely talked at a lower grade level to make him appear more like normal voters. I don't think he will make a good leader but he's not stupid.

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                                        [–]rationalcomment [スコア非表示]  (48子コメント)

                                        Canada just passed a law where you could be fined if you don't use the proper gender pronoun (xir, xe, xim...etc).

                                        http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/301661-this-canadian-prof-defied-sjw-on-gender-pronouns-and-has-a

                                        Canada really, really shouldn't be talking about censorship.

                                        [–]Pile_Drive_The_Baby [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

                                        I mean in Montreal all of Quebec they have literal language police who go around and make sure that English and French speakers are being equally represented and to fine people for using offensive language. A business can be shutdown for refusing to advertise in French as well as English. It's fucked up.

                                        [–]Levy_Wilson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                        Ahh, the time when terrorism worked.

                                        [–]wiredinmycoffee [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                        in Montreal they have literal language police who go around and make sure that English and French speakers are being equally represented

                                        it applies to the whole province of Quebec, and French has to be alone or at least twice the size

                                        In some cases, only French can be used, for example, advertising on buses and on some large billboards.

                                        For some other types of signs and advertising, French can be used along with English or another language, as long as the French is clearly more predominant. "More predominant" usually means that the French version is at least twice as big, or takes up at least twice as much space, as the other language.

                                        https://www.educaloi.qc.ca/en/capsules/language-laws-and-doing-business-quebec

                                        [–]mrboomx [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                        That's just general Quebec law. Pretty stupid. Even in Ontario all of our food labels have a French side too, even though outside Ottawa very little people speak fluent French.

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                                          [–]bearpics16 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          There has to be more to that. Can you link an article?

                                          [–]MikeDubbz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          I will never understand why people are so scared of things that they have to make up bullshit to validate the way they feel.

                                          [–]Ode-to-green-putty [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                          Is there a defense of "I didn't know their preferred pronoun" or "it's different than last time I asked"?

                                          [–]StabbyDMcStabberson [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                          Just use the proactive defense of calling everyone meatbag.

                                          [–]CanadianMooseRider [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          I like your thinking meatbag.

                                          [–]lotsoftuna [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                          But meat could imply something male, or more specifically the male penis! That'd be offensive!! /s

                                          [–]0Lezz0 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          Fine. I will call everyone 'Human' and those who doesn't identifies as a 'Human' would be a 'insane human'

                                          [–]ZeiglerJaguar [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

                                          Trumpkins spreading easily identifiable bullshit as usual.

                                          I don't even agree with hate-speech laws as coded in places like Canada and Europe (and neither does the author of that article), but dumb claims should be called dumb claims and summarily dismissed.

                                          [–]lostinpairadise [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                          I have no horse in this race, I am completely on the fence about the issue. But doesn't this support what he said...

                                          " Non-discrimination on the basis of gender identity and expression may very well be interpreted by the courts in the future to include the right to be identified by a person’s self identified pronoun. The Ontario Human Rights Commission, for example, in their Policy on Preventing Discrimination Because of Gender Identity and Expression states that gender harassment should include “ Refusing to refer to a person by their self-identified name and proper personal pronoun”. In other words, pronoun misuse may become actionable, though the Human Rights Tribunals and courts. And the remedies? Monetary damages, non-financial remedies (for example, ceasing the discriminatory practice or reinstatement to job) and public interest remedies (for example, changing hiring practices or developing non-discriminatory policies and procedures). Jail time is not one of them."

                                          [–]ZeiglerJaguar [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                          Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that's talking about harassment and non-discrimination in a workplace environment? ("Reinstatement to job?") As in, boss has a MtF trans employee and constantly calls her "him;" seems like that might cross a line as far as workplace harassment? And even that is pending a completely hypothetical court decision?

                                          Claiming on the face of things that "Canada passed a law where you can be fined $250K for misgendering someone" is an outrageous exaggeration.

                                          I'm not saying it's a great bill, or that it probably shouldn't be more specific if it's trying to avoid a situation like the one I mentioned above. I don't know much about it, myself. I'm saying outrageous claims deserve a bit of scrutiny.

                                          [–]ikannfrancais [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          That actually sounds quite reasonable to me. If I started a new job and Jim from accounting insisted on calling me Stephanie (my name is Steve) and using she/her, especially when I was within earshot that would seem like harassment to me. And I have the benefit of just laughing that off because of how ridiculous it would be and the fact that most of my coworkers would probably think Jim is an idiot. If that happens to a person I would hope they'd have some legal protection.

                                          The problem is people like to conflate that with the idea that if you accidentally use the wrong pronoun once your life is over (even if the person in question never made clear their preference), which I don't think anyone is arguing ever.

                                          [–]lines_read_lines [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                          Your OWN LINK supports exactly what he said:

                                          " Non-discrimination on the basis of gender identity and expression may very well be interpreted by the courts in the future to include the right to be identified by a person’s self identified pronoun. The Ontario Human Rights Commission, for example, in their Policy on Preventing Discrimination Because of Gender Identity and Expression states that gender harassment should include “ Refusing to refer to a person by their self-identified name and proper personal pronoun”. In other words, pronoun misuse may become actionable, though the Human Rights Tribunals and courts. And the remedies? Monetary damages, non-financial remedies (for example, ceasing the discriminatory practice or reinstatement to job) and public interest remedies (for example, changing hiring practices or developing non-discriminatory policies and procedures.

                                          Did you read it?

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                                            [–]wankershankerflanker [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                            At least our country stays out of our bedrooms. :)

                                            [–]Nitto1337 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                            If only your mom could stay out of mine.

                                            [–]StabbyDMcStabberson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                            So does every other country outside of the middle east. Hell, it's been decades since sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional in the US.

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                                              [–]Pile_Drive_The_Baby [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                              Still waiting for Canada to release it's plans to erect the wall in the north

                                              [–]PM_ME_A_WEBSITE_IDEA [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              :(

                                              source: is canadian

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                                                [–]BlazeLightyear [スコア非表示]  (43子コメント)

                                                Sounds like someone thought of a new, creative way to take advantage of a bunch of alarmists to get a bunch of free money. Too easy

                                                [–]getinthechopper [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                Haha yep. My earlier comment was, this headline just reads "You should be scared, but we have a plan. All we need is your money."

                                                [–]hairdeek [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

                                                Exactly. If anything, I'd would have been more worried about the Dems censoring the internet. They've been pushing the "fake news" narrative the past few weeks. Sure, a lot of what passes as news is BS (on both sides of the politics spectrum) but who's going to decide what news is "real"; the Ministry of Truth??

                                                [–]Bsomin [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                                Objective facts are easily discovered, you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

                                                [–]wakeman3453 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                "Here you must only reference the FBI's crime statistics, any other crime statistics are false and using them will get you banned from the internet."

                                                I see no way how this could be abused.

                                                [–]getinthechopper [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                Yes, you're entitled to believe the moon landing was a hoax if you chose. But that's not at all what u/hairdeek was saying. Objective facts are NOT easily discovered. This is why journalists who dig deep are praised so much, because it's far from "easy".

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                                                    [–]PirateKilt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                    That was my first thought... fear based scam to steal a bunch of "donations"

                                                    [–]inavanbytheriver [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                    Yup. Fringe political movements love Trump, because the donations are just rolling in! Same with the green party, which has raised more money for their recount effort than they made during thier rentire campaign.

                                                    [–]Jeffy29 [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

                                                    take advantage of a bunch of alarmists

                                                    We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way ... Somebody will say, 'Oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people.

                                                    Sorry for taking words of the president-elect literally. Unlike you dumbfucks we don't have selective hearing where we only hear things we like.

                                                    [–]AceCream [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                    He was talking about blocking ISIS from the internet, maybe shutting service to whole areas.

                                                    [–]DALcowboys [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                                                    But we already do that. For instance, the OSU campus was closed when there was supposedly an active shooter this past week. If police bar you from entering, is it a personal rights violation? No. It's a safety issue. We can argue about slippery slopes and where to draw lines, but ISIS recruiting hotspots and CP trafficking websites are clearly on the other side of the line.

                                                    [–]die_rattin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                    Canada's free speech protections are considerably weaker than the US', even if whatever fever dream Trump wants gets put into place. This is definitely taking advantage of idiots.

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                                                        [–]StockholmSyndromePet [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

                                                        Onion style site or are people still ignorant of the physical limitations of storage and access?

                                                        [–]m340jii [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                        It's IBTimes, rubbish source. But the archive.org's project is great, don't let idiot "journalists" ruin the thought for you.

                                                        [–]CompuHacker [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                        The Internet Archive's archive is considerably smaller than "the entire Internet" as it currently stands.

                                                        [–]morelikebigpoor [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                        You seem to be ignorant of the fact that the internet archive already exists.

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                                                          [–]tpbRandysAlterEgo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          This is laughable considering the amount of censorship that already happens with a democrat in office ....

                                                          [–]TitsMcCleary [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                          The internet archive is absolutely not the entire internet.

                                                          [–]MadTrini [スコア非表示]  (34子コメント)

                                                          I'm Canadian and this is ridiculous. This is a lot of effort so that the biased media could continue to share misinformation.

                                                          It is under the current administration that you've seen massive censorship. Just look at the ridiculous censorship on Reddit so that you'll have an idea of what took place

                                                          [–]nielspeterdejong [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                          You summed it up perfectly. Just look at the censorship from /politics and /europe. Anything pro Trump was labeled as "racist", and anything pro Hillary got to the front page. They aren't even ashamed of doing that, since "Trump is the next Hitler". It's just plain ridiculous!

                                                          [–]Smgzor8 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          It wasn't censorship you cuck. It was people downvoting Trump shit because no one cares about that "man" or hears what he wants to say.

                                                          [–]GreedyR [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          Reddit puts the tools of censorship in the peoples hands through the downvote system. The fact that things we don't like seeing are pushed to the bottom, and also the fact that mods will lock threads and remove comments quite often if things break whatever rules they set.

                                                          The Youtube comment system promotes free speech better than Reddit does.

                                                          [–]peopleareawful32 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          I'm also Canadian and Canadian subreddit mods ban me for talking dissent about islam, and for literally quoting someone in the same thread.

                                                          But Canada and CBC are totally unbiased and love free speech! /s

                                                          [–]s_trbn [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                                                          Also Canadian and agree it's ridiculous.

                                                          The media bias is out of control, and though I'm not a Trump supporter, I do hope him being elected wakes the media up so they realize there are other opinions from their own. I remember watching CBC during the elections. When it was apparent Trump took it, the team and guest commenters all looked like someone had just told them their puppy died.

                                                          To be honest I think it would have been more justified for the Internet Archive to take these steps if Clinton had won. She was the one pledging a continuation of Obama's policies, and as you said, it was under him that censorship took a big step forward.

                                                          [–]Daddingly [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                          Yeah, but you also seem to be an American shitposter who almost exclusively posts to defend Trump.

                                                          I particularly like your post about how Trump saved the US-Putin relationship which Clinton would have destroyed. Lol.

                                                          [–]DALcowboys [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          I am not a big fan of Donald Trump, but the US-Putin thing actually seems pretty correct. Clinton wanted to impose a no fly zone in Syria on Russia, and she seemed to indicate that she didn't care what the implications of that were for war. You might say Trump's "friendship" with Putin isn't a good thing, and I would mostly agree. But I'd rather the president lean that way than towards war.

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                                                            [–]QuanticFyre [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

                                                            the 'censorship' on reddit wasn't even 'censorship', it was just legit spez editing posts straightup lmao, unless he did something else which I am not aware of

                                                            [–]sandr0 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                                            Changing the algorithm so /r/the_donald can't reach fp anymore?

                                                            I mean, you can't say that he isn't trying his hardest to suppress opinions that differ from his.

                                                            [–]QuanticFyre [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                            true, sorry forgot about that

                                                            though I am not a donald supporter by any measure and don't like him at all, in my opinion it is abhorrent that spez did something like that to censor a certain group just because of his own / reddit admins' own political views :\

                                                            [–]Thecrazything [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                            Except they still reach frontpage, they just don't drown out everything else anymore.

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                                                                  [–]KazarakOfKar [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                                  I was about to say out of all of the regimes CURRENTLY, right now, out there actively censoring people, along with all the politically motivated censorship on social media the thing that gets people hot and bothered is the hypothetical idea of Trump someone interjecting himself on the whole of the internet?

                                                                  I think the "fear" is that Trump will somehow try to reneg on the deal allowing "Global" control of the internet, I don't see how he could. .

                                                                  [–]kernel456 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                  When Trump won, people were very afraid of genocide, concentration camps, gays and PoC getting persecuted and executed. Three weeks later a guy died who actually genocided, murdered, persecuted and imprisoned innocent people, and the same people talk about what an amazing guy he was. What can I say, these people are mentally ill.

                                                                  [–]MeooowthThatsRight [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Lol that's a great way to put it

                                                                  [–]thrw87 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  One of the dumbasses at NBC during election night was talking about Trump sending out troops to gather illegals and put them in concentration camps. These idiots couldnt predict Trump winning and now they were telling us how Trump was going to govern.

                                                                  [–]nielspeterdejong [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Yeah.... Some people still aren't able to think for themselves apparently....

                                                                  [–]vroomvroom2143 [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                                                                  You do realize that Canada has way more restrictions on speech than the USA, right?

                                                                  [–]Doctorgb [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

                                                                  Meanwhile anytime a muslim commits a terrorist act reddit goes into censorship lockdown

                                                                  [–]CptFizz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Always remember who is really censoring
                                                                  and
                                                                  always assume an agenda!

                                                                  [–]HaydenGalloway10 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  This makes no sense. You're fearing possible future free speech violations so you "move" the internet to a country that already has no freedom of speech?

                                                                  [–]argelico [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                                  This is ridiculous how they are using fear to fill their coffers. The whole thing is a scam and I hope people don't fall for it. Keep your money folks. The internet is not being threatened anymore than it was under Obama.

                                                                  [–]CentipedeFacts [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                  Hey, using fear to fill your coffers from the pockets of butthurt liberals in denial is a profitable industry right now. Just look at Jill Stein.

                                                                  [–]IamDerTrumpenFuher [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Its always good to get a republican in office because then liberals finally start giving a shit about constitutional rights again.

                                                                  [–]CommanderStarkiller [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                                                                  Ironic considering I thought trumps election compaign made it very clear that he believes freedom of expression as a pillar of western society.

                                                                  [–]AFlaccoSeagulls [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                                  That's weird cuz just yesterday he said that people should be stripped of citizenship or jailed for exercising their first amendment rights....

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                                                                    [–]SoCo_cpp [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                    These next 2 months' click bait topics: what terrible things Trump might, possibly, maybe, do, which either don't differ from Obama or previous administration or are completely based on speculations. i.e. Fake news.

                                                                    [–]LyingRedditBastard [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    That's funny considering Canada has some anti free speech laws and is toying with even more language controls.

                                                                    [–]AlpacaLeader [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Meanwhile Obama's administration has infamously tried to take down the internet multiple times, resulting in actual widespread "blackouts".

                                                                    The fear mongering about Trump needs to stop.

                                                                    [–]Basta_Abuela_Baby [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    "Fearing Trump will shit the bed, the rest of the world gets off its ass and improves things."

                                                                    I'm seeing a lot of this. I just can't decide whether Trump is a great President-elect or the greatest President-elect.

                                                                    [–]Ketchupz [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                    Ahh the hysteria. I don't even want to persuade all these anti-Trumpers anymore 'cause I want them to stay misrable and afraid, just until they see how Trumps presidency will actually be. xD

                                                                    [–]Lectitio_Divinitatus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                    I don't have much cash, but I'll happily donate my rare Pepes.

                                                                    [–]anddamnthechoices [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Because a country that is pushing a bill to thought police people is the bastion from censorship. Eat a fucking platter of dicks, /r/Futurology

                                                                    [–]MustardNamtab [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

                                                                    What is the source of this fear? I don't recall Trump ever saying anything about censorship...

                                                                    [–]Stranger-Thingies [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Hyper conservative regimes have routinely gone down this path. It's a very predictable move and Trump is far from the most important factor in this conversation.

                                                                    [–]Bspammer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcmiHx5Yf2I

                                                                    [–]ksndjsosmwmtixnsn3 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                                                    Uhh just yesterday he posted on twitter that people who burn american flags should be jailed or lose their citizenship.

                                                                    [–]croutons_r_good [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                    He hasn't and won't. He's not going to do any of this bullshit

                                                                    [–]trapanon [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                                    That's a really stupid place to back it up to. There's no free speech here and hundreds of thousands of sites are censored by the government.

                                                                    [–]peoplejam 19ポイント20ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                    Doesn't Canada have a law against people referring to others by their non preferred pronoun? If that's the case then Canada has its own censorship problems to deal with

                                                                    [–]The_Lone_Fish17 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                    You are reffering to the Jordan Peterson debates at the University of Toronto. The issue is the new bill C-16 adds to an existing discrimination law (which makes it illegal to dicriminate against someone for race, gender etc) the term gender identity. The forced pronoun thing is misrepresenting the law. No new law was made just an existing one had its deffinition changed.

                                                                    [–]PM_Me_Things_Yo_Like [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                                    I uh... I don't know what your referring to...

                                                                    Ontario recently introduced gender neutral driver licenses, but that's the only recent gender law or policy that I'm aware of.

                                                                    [–]peoplejam [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                    I'm referring to comments I heard on a podcast by professor Jordon Peterson from Toronto university http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37875695

                                                                    [–]Heinskitz_Velvet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    So they want to fine him and send him to "mandatory anti-descrimination training" if he doesn't want to call people ze or zir?

                                                                    "But Dr Peterson could face sanction under Ontario's human rights code, which extended protection to trans people in 2012.

                                                                    Penalties range from fines and damages to mandatory anti-discrimination training."

                                                                    That is insane. I honestly never thought this shit would catch on.

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                                                                        [–]raptracks4urbitchass [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Canada sponsors statewide censorship and they have no freedom of speech lol. Not a good choice at all.

                                                                        [–]sonofbaal_tbc [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                        I don't think liberals have quite thrown away enough money this election

                                                                        [–]sbin-init [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Ironically enough, it is actually the current establishment which is trying to censor our access to free information. See "fake news". And what is CNN? NBC? Is that "real" news?

                                                                        [–]seekthetruthnotlies [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Dear Canada, thank you for this. thank you for August Ames also.

                                                                        [–]joshman426 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                        Am I the only one that's thinking whether or not that backup includes all of Pornhub?

                                                                        [–]MisterMoosers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        They are worried about this with trump? Censorship wouod have been much more of a concern with Clinton honestly.

                                                                        [–]deplorablecrayon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        This doesn't make any sense, America has the most ironclad freedom of speech protections in the world. Plus if it's backed up in Canada they'll have to strip out gendered pronouns.

                                                                        [–]BenjiIRS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        When Canada fears the United States won't be free enough.

                                                                        [–]Thr33St0r13s [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        This is a real stretch. Trump intrude on the internet? It's reaching given his policies, but it's downright laughable on the heels of the current regime.

                                                                        I mean, really guys. I back you guys on the climate change concerns, but come on. The real threat to the sanctity of the internet has been of late been the left. Just look around. London's mayor, Sadiq Khan, has already stated his plan to target internet unfriendlies (or critics as a cynic might call them) to Islam, Obama gave away control of the internet to an international organization with several authoritarian regimes on its advisory board, and moderates on both sides should find the government's relationship with major tech CEO's, such Zuckerberg and Dorsey, disturbing.

                                                                        I really like this sub, but can we try to resist becoming extremely politicized? The article offers no evidence aside from a couple zero-context quotes that Trump made in regards to blocking access of extremist groups like ISIS to try to halt recruiting, which (hate to kill the narrative) was a sentiment shared by the current admin and floated by Clinton.

                                                                        [–]salemblopblop [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Are you people crazy? How in the world can you entertain the thought that Trump, a president-elected chosen by the American people precisely because he stands against corruption and lies and deception, will censor the internet like some tyrant from another age? That is sick thinking, and probably designed to merely make money somehow.

                                                                        [–]bobguyjones [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Didn't like either main candidate, nor did I vote for either, but I was more worried about the fate of the free internet with Hillary than Trump. Hillary has had large donations from Time Warner for sure, and I think comcast as well if I remember correctly. Quite frankly I don't think Trump gives a shit about the internet, and he doesn't seem like the type for censorship considering he doesn't seem to censor what he says very often. Ultimately, Trump is still a wild card and anyone is a fool if they think they know what he is trying to do for sure.

                                                                        [–]fffeejjj [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        I don't get it. People think Trump will censor the internet? I feel like Hillary would have been more likely to do that. It's always the left showing interest in censoring the net.

                                                                        [–]theBAFH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        That's adorable. The US has just lived through 8 years of the most intrusive government this country has ever seen including expansions of snooping and wiretapping above and beyond what anyone who wrote the Patriot act could have ever imagined and NOW you afraid of censorship????

                                                                        [–]butt-guy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        People are so quick in finding creative ways to profit off of the irrational fears of others. Congrats to them.

                                                                        [–]Tommy-LeeJones [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        So basically, the Internet Archive is asking people to donate millions of dollars to build an alternate site in Canada that in all likelihood will not be needed. Good deal.

                                                                        [–]cplanedriver [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Are these fears even based in reality anymore? Holy fuck, people accuse republicans of fear mongering, but liberals are taking it to a completely new level with Trump.

                                                                        Someones making some money off of this.

                                                                        [–]valiantjared [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                        Sounds like they are following Jill Stein's example and using convenient idiots for free money

                                                                        [–]OneBuffalo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Yeah because the leftists have proved they should have control of censorship after lying to the people via cable news and internet blogs/fake news sites for 14+ months constantly

                                                                        Dont think so hombre

                                                                        [–]starvingwchopsticks [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                                        Canada will seize your property if you use the wrong pronoun to address a sjw. Not sure they are best to protect against censorship.

                                                                        [–]MadTrini [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                                                                        I'm Canadian and this is ridiculous. This is a lot of effort so that the biased media could continue to share misinformation.

                                                                        It is under the current administration that you've seen massive censorship. Just look at the ridiculous censorship on Reddit so that you'll have an idea of what took place

                                                                        [–]HaZe905 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                        Amen... just think of Snowden and all of the things that current administration does. The real fear of Trump is that he will lift up the curtain on them in a heartbeat. They arent used to having somebody who isnt in their pocket and who actually cares more about the citizen than the state.

                                                                        [–]gophergun [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Agreed, we've made it clear in this country that there is no whistleblower protection to the Espionage act, and that's a large part of why we've continued falling in the Press Freedom Index.

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                                                                          [–]kilot1k [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                          This could work. Canada is a fairly large country if the map I'm looking at is accurate. I doubt many of you live in the areas that are constantly covered in snow and reside in the areas that are only mostly covered in snow so this could work perfectly for huge warehouses to store data. Internal cooling system for thousands of servers? Just open a window eh? It would be permanently safe from trump, his tiny fingers would never survive in such a harsh climate.

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