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Girls don't find smart guys sexually attractive (self.TheRedPill)

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Even at a top academic school, the guys who play sports and are in a fraternity hook up with the majority of girls, including the nerdy ones.

I am at a top academic school and I see it everyday. If I were to describe a couple with a nerdy girl, it would probably be along these lines; the girl is studying computer science, math or even engineering and the guy is a jock looking guy.

The guys who get absolutely fucked over are the research types of guys. Girls do not find these guys attractive. The only way they get laid, even with the nerdy girls, is through the beta bucks method.

Even the majority of the school views the STEM majors as losers, excluding the girls. But let me tell you this, these guys work harder than anybody. They dedicate their lives to their work and sacrifice so much.

Unfortunately these guys just get the short end of the stick. To be fair, all girls don't just hook up with the jocks; as a matter of fact a lot of girls will hook up with guys who aren't conventionally attractive. However, these unconventionally attractive guys are involved in some "cool" stuff, whether it be drugs or whatever.

If you are a "nerd" and truly happy with researching your whole life, you should follow your passion. However, you need to keep in mind that even the nerdy girls are not attracted to the nerdy guys.

I actually research in a lab and the girls who research in the lab do not put in as much work as the guys. Furthermore, they do not find any of the guys attractive. It's just the way it is unfortunately.

Keep in mind that you need to focus on academics because it leads to money and a good life, but realize that girls are absolutely turned off by smart guys. It's a shame really.

Even in society the smartest guys aren't necessarily leaders. It's about hiding your smartness and figuring out what to do.

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[–]Tako_400 67ポイント68ポイント  (19子コメント)

I've had the opposite experience, OP. Intelligent men are definitely more attractive. What you are describing in your post are "nerds," people who are infatuated with their studies and therefore do not devote much time to other things. They neglect their health and social lives and this is what causes them to become unattractive. On the other hand, if you have a man who is confident, social, healthy, and can speak at length about various complex topics, he comes off as much more attractive than a similar man who is uninterested in politics, science, and the like.

Whether or not women are interested in what you have to say is a moot point. What is important is that they see that you are interested in discussion and theory.

[–]Swole_is_life 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah, I can practically hear the bitter, nasal voice in this post.

OP, I have a doctorate but can also bench 300+ pounds and I can get damn near any pussy I want. In college I was surrounded by women as someone who was well-known as smart.

As always, fucking lift and be attractive. There were a few other guys at my level academically but they were all typical nerds and got zero female attention while I was swimming in it.

You're not being ignored because you're intelligent, you're being ignored because you're socially awkward, weak, and have a victim complex (waaah women don't like me because I'm just too smart). Lift and get some game and you'll see it most definitely was not being smart that was a turnoff.

[–]mercuryg 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's very nuanced though. Simply being intelligent is not a turnoff, it's not like girls are gonna reject you solely for having above average IQ.

But it's not an advantage either, and in todays SMP, anything that's not an advantage is unnecessary, and if it's unnecessary it's way more likely to be a turnoff than a turn on. There's a time and a place, and girls out to get laid are not the ones that wanna hear about how intelligent you are. Using your intelligence to impress should be reserved for places it will actually be appreciated.

Impressing a girl with intelligence is like surfing with a skateboard, it's not the time or the place, and the same goal can be accomplished much easier in a different way.

[–]OhAndOneMoreThing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where did he say he was getting ignored? Being intelligent is more about processing information and cognitive ability than being a "nerd."

Girls don't care that I took calculus in 11th grade. But being intelligent makes me a fucking savage when I get shit tested, and the fact that I can think on my feet so fast that women are not capable of making me look bad is what attracts them.

Of course if I didn't care for myself physically it would be harder, but intelligence is NEVER a hindrance.

[–]J-baller 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

From what I have witnessed: The guys who hook up with the most chicks are the guys who throw parties, get drunk off alcohol and experience with drugs

[–]KarmaEnthusiast 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those guys will get pussy from being fun. If you are intelligent and can exhibit the traits of a socially apt "party guy" minus the drugs and excessive drinking, you'll be a fucking God to women and have things on your terms. That's why reading is so important. If I use the word 'expansive' instead of wide I definitely notice girls' ears prick up. Frame is the key, not the action itself.

[–]iamneptuno 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What you are describing in your post are "nerds," people who are infatuated with their studies and therefore do not devote much time to other things.

Exactly, this is the only way to become intelligent -- devote "much time" to improving your intelligence, neglecting something else. At max, you could be intelligent and healthy, but you won't have any time for social life. Still, not the worst case, I'd say.

On the other hand, if you have a man who is confident, social, healthy, and can speak at length about various complex topics, he comes off as much more attractive than a similar man who is uninterested in politics, science, and the like.

Talking about science and especially fucking politics are the best vagina dryers known to men. One TRP rule I completely agree on is to never even bring that crap in a conversation. The more stupid you seem the better.

What is important is that they see that you are interested in discussion and theory.

Of course it isn't. Are you really excited if she's interested in gender studies or something? That's the same thing.

[–]redisthecoldestcolor 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly, this is the only way to become intelligent -- devote "much time" to improving your intelligence, neglecting something else. At max, you could be intelligent and healthy, but you won't have any time for social life. Still, not the worst case, I'd say.

iamverysmart

Even Einstein was getting on his kink on the reg. There are no excuses.

[–]Swole_is_life 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point. The guy whose name is synonymous with "smart" had no trouble getting laid.

[–]FractalFactorial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its about immediacy: a person who is charismatic and looks good automatically broadcasts interpersonal "intelligence" as well as the intelligence necessary to live an active lifestyle.

Not all forms of intelligence may be equal, but there are different types: it is this type of rationalization that makes women capable of fucking the line-backer neanderthal but dry as a desert over some physics honor student. This is also why women tend to be more liberal.

Even IF you are correct, being intelligent isn't a detriment. Smartness is just another way that you can frame yourself as the rightful 'captain of the ship' women may prize physical traits but intelligence isn't dumpstered.

[–]dodiat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whole heartedly agree.

If you are strong, heathy, game-strong, and attractive, your intelligence will be a big attraction pull.

If you are weak, unhealthy, clueless, and unattractive, your intelligence doesn't mean shit.

The sad truth.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Witty means being able to apply your intelligence in a social setting. Probably due to modern education techniques, smart guys no longer learn how to be witty.

Oscar Wilde was intelligent and witty, since he batted both ways he was screwing everything in site.

[–]Greenmarbles 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

And its easy to see why wit is such a huge turn on for women. Its something they can steal.

It has value because youre instantly seen as cool, and smart, and people awe and marvel at your frame of mind when youre "on."

But we all know that witty one liners, that are authentic coming from you, are equally impressive when stolen and used in another social setting.

I see my sister do it all the time, she steals something from a rap song, or a movie quote or something a friend told her, regurgitates it back to me or her friends, and gets the validation in form of praise, or attention.

I do it too, I read a very rich book filled with intersting perspectives, or something smooth like a line from the book of pook, so i can feel like a casa nova. And therefore my once bland perspective now is seen as interesting, and witty, and unordinary.

people are cheap and want to have value while doing nothing to improve their actual situations and accomplishments. And women are especially good at this.

So if you want to have sex with lots of women, say smart ass things they can use in front of other people. Which means it has to be culturally relevant, and just be so on that everyones facinated by your remarkablity and frame. and vuala sex on tap because youre giving away free social markers like candy.

[–]stonepimpletilists 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feynman was a playboy, science can get you laid, if you can string a sentence or two together, build a nuke

[–]ehcolston2 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

From my experience, guys and girls rate "intelligence" differently. When a girl says she is attracted to smart guys, what she usually means is that she is attracted to someone with a lot of social intelligence, i.e. the Dark Triad. Guys usually rate intelligence by book smarts; how well read you are, your gpa, your academic accomplishments, etc.

[–]iamneptuno 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

When a girl says she is attracted to smart guys, what she usually means

...is nothing. Anything a girl says about her sexual preferences usually means nothing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not quite. The factor that matters is dominance. Are they able to intellectually dominate another man? Much like physically knocking down a man with a punch, I've seen women get extremely attracted to a guy who can land a good put-down on somebody who isn't at the bottom of the social ladder. Same goes for insta-crushing the opinion of another guy with a simple counter-example. It's all just another part of the social dynamics around how women are ranking everybody in the social hierarchy.

It's why status trumps all other things because when it comes back to it, alpha behaviours are attractive because they indicate high position within the social hierarchy. Intellect can do the same (or not at all if you're introverted.) This also explains why men at the top of the lab, doctors profs etc can pick up their students, while younger men who may be just as smart or even smarter than that guy training them is still going to be lesser in her eyes. It's all social status being influenced by various factors... one of which will be determined by intelligence.

Also yeah, as the other guy said, don't take anything women say seriously. Their words are worthless.

[–]drallcom3 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Girls find attractive guys attractive.

Same as employers like productive guys. Only being intelligent doesn't help you.

[–]MisterDorimant 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Old news.

Basically it boils down to this; what do You want?

Do you want a relationship? Lift and be intelligent and rich.

Do you want a life of fuck & chuck? Just lift.

The MOST sexually attractive guys are the ones that "just lift." You're going to get Your dick stomped when Your girl leaves You for willfully ignorant Chad, and that's just the way it goes. she's never Yours, it's just Your turn.

We have lived in a society that praises stupidity as the ultimate virtue for 30+ years now.

I'm a Gen X'er. I remember the 80s well. We fought the good fight against feminists, leftists, and Boomers, and Jesus Fuck some of us kicked some mighty ass but our victory was cheapened and stolen and handed to the Millennials, who then proceeded to turn anything that was ever cool into a god damned joke. No credit will ever be given for anything that we might have accomplished, and most of that has successfully been erased and covered up with Atari, Wham!, Diet Coke, and Legos.

There was a time when intelligence was praised. Nerds were viciously competitive and it was exhilarating. Those days are long gone.

Either shut Your brain off or don't, it's up to You. But even the most intelligent member of Generation Retard (anyone born after 1980) still don't know shit about fuck and never will.

[–]InMooseWeTrust 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's true. I'm 24 and I don't remember a time when stupidity wasn't cool.

[–]mehdreamer 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

They like guys who are practical and know how to fix and repair stuff, who are socially intelligent but not "math" intelligent . They don't like guys who knows a lot about Sociology or Anthropology (Some do.. but it's a niche)

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Smart is boring.

Cunning is sexy.

The difference is that the evil man of cunning is a rule breaker (what is known as the alpha, the self-directed wheel), the man of smarts is a rote rule follower & overall "good boy" (beta). Women know exactly what's up. There's nothing sexually exciting about the cowardly brainiac safe option, who is so "cucked" he actually believes that playing by all the rules other people give you gets you somewhere.

Remember, women's task is choosing the genetic winner. It's a tough job, no joke, but finely honed female instincts such as their natural preference for alpha males & affinity for evil instead of good, go a long way to help.

[–]2ex_addict_bro 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

The problem is, you have no frigging idea, what those fit guys are doing when they aren't at the gym.

My last personal trainer - law student.

Some other muscular gym rat - pro MMA fighter + plays guitar in a band.

Urology resident in a hospital - break dancer.

You look for excuses for being in a pitiful state.

Downvoted, go away.

[–]stonepimpletilists -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Agree 100%. The problem with OP' post, lets say it is true, then what?

Wallow in your pedantic misery? stick a crayon up your nose and become grok?

Bodies are sexually appealing, build one, and don't talk about quantum physics, because it doesn't make girls wet

[–]1kevin32 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

OP is starting his RP journey and reporting his findings along the way. For him it started with recognizing that women aren't attracted to book-smarts and niceness as they are to muscles and jerkish behavior.

Give him a break.

[–]stonepimpletilists 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

my post was as far from busting someones chops as I can get.

Think guidance, insofar as I am able, not argumentative

[–]Aaren_Augustine 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are a trigger of sensitivity

[–]logician9000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Talk about quantum physics after fucking her brains out. She will love that.

[–]Fulp_Piction 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Girls can find intelligent men attractive, it's just that intelligence isn't enough on it's own. You're not removing yourself from the dating pool by being smart.

[–]EliasBoudinot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

All this STEM worship is overrated, mostly because the media loves acronyms and they've been pushing it as some kind of higher calling for the past 10 years. It's not. It's just a field of hard jobs. But you know what, there are lots of ways to make money, and I'm sure there are used car salesmen who make more money than the STEM major. Over time they seem to have developed a complex along the lines of "We're doing God's work, we're the only legitimate college graduates." Get over it. Reading too much of these echo chambers you'd start to think everyone is either a computer programmer or a stay at home entrepreneur.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

 

As a former computer programmer I can say part of it is burnout.

Mentally it'a tough to do STEM related studies and that leaves you too tired out to devote time to thinking about the Red Pill and Game.

 

Hey guys... read the Red Pill and give the studies a break sometimes.

 

In my day (1990's dot.coms) we still got laid anyway because we were perceived as "soon to be millionaires" but after the dot.coms that image of the brash cowboy programmer in a dot.com making a killing was replaced by a Hollywood version which is what we know now.

Honestly the "look" back then for programmers was either the standard tan colored pants and light blue shirt or all black.

We didn't have so many nerdy types back then.

There were many Alpha tech types too... more "con men" than slaves.

 

Anyway... read the Red Pill it's good for you.

 

[–]The_M0rning_Star 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is insanely off base. There are 3 things that attract a woman to male besides physical features and those are in order: 1) Confidence 2) Talent 3) Being funny. Being smart falls under that talent category. The only time being a smart nerd isn't hot is when you lack the confidence to pull it off. When you do things like say, "all women find smart men unattractive because of x,y, and z" it shows a supreme lack of confidence in your talent. Basically all you're saying is "my talent isn't good enough to attract women". Because at the end of the day, even if they don't want children, people fuck based off genetics. And smart dudes make smart babies.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you put two guys next to each other, and they're exactly equal in every way, except one is smart and one is dumb, girls prefer the smart guy. Even sexually.

But looks and social aptitude are far more important traits.

Smart isn't a turn-off. It's actually a very slight turn-on. But a lot of "smart" guys aren't buff and lack social skills. Those are big ass deal-breakers. And even if you're not like that, if the dumb guy standing next to you is better looking and more socially apt, he's going to win out over your smarts.

It's also important to note that a guy who's smart and also has social aptitude is very, very different and far more pleasant to be around than a guy who's smart and lacks social skills. The former is an interesting social dynamo who comes across as a well-traveled badass who's well-versed in many subject areas. The latter is an autistic weirdo who takes about strange shit in a weird way and doesn't make his smarts conversationally interesting.

[–]iamneptuno 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

10000% correct, intelligence is a monstrous turn off for females, most probably because it means introversion, which is an instant disqualification.

But let me tell you this, these guys work harder than anybody.

Come the fuck on, anything involving crazy shifts is incomparably worse; any waiter or whatever works harder. I know what I'm talking about -- I work in IT, it's the easiest job under the moon. Even Hollywood actors have it worse, they still have to commute to the set, while I just have to take my ass to the nearest laptop around my place.

It's just the way it is unfortunately.

Rather, fortunately. Don't make such martyrs out of STEM. Their mission is to move the technology, not give tingles. Everyone must do his job.

[–]KarmaEnthusiast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're blaming anything other than yourself for why women aren't attracted to you then you're copping out. Intelligence didn't make you unattractive, you did.

[–]zero194 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

**work as hard as anybody; would have been a better way to put it. But damn that set you off real bad. Calm yo tits.

[–]dammit_redskins 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol this isn't true at all. You can be smart and in the STEM field and slay pussy if you aren't a reclusive loser.

Smarts are attractive. Dedicating all time to studies and none to other areas of life is when it's a turn off, AKA your typical nerd.

If you lift and are socially adept it doesn't matter what the fuck you study. It just so happens that lots of STEM majors are nerds, but the two are NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Witty means being able to apply your intelligence in a social setting. Probably due to modern education techniques, smart guys no longer learn how to be witty.

Oscar Wilde was intelligent and witty, since he batted both ways he was screwing everything in site.

[–]fcb98292 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

In fairness to the nerds, they usually make more money and keep more of it because there is no female in their life except mom.

[–]stonepimpletilists 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah, this is the thirsty attitude that ruined Yahoo

[–]InMooseWeTrust 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Moms like to talk up their nerdy sons even if they know nobody will want him.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was in my blue pill college days and I thought all women wanted were money so I should work hard in college in my classes, get good grades, get a good job with good money and then I get rewards. Not so, had the wrong idea, it's not just money need to look and act the part.

[–]HAMMURABl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember making out with a girl whom I didnt tell what I do, and we were talking about jobs and I was complaining all these pure IT guys making so much (im a quant at a bank), her response:

"Well what these guys do are so god damn boring, you need to pay them good otherwise no one would do it."

Which is completely the opposite of my experience, most IT guys would work for close above minimum wage if they just could keep doing what they do. But it gave me a great insight into how females view IT jobs.

[–]AnjaJutta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are intelligent enough to make room for a moderate amount of fitness in your life you will be attractive to women.

[–]Mrbumblebee3 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

What can a nerd to to turn his situation around? I hear about lifting and putting yourself out there but I work about 100 hours a week.

[–]KarmaEnthusiast 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you're not in customer service then workout when you can and just deal with the BO. You can't tell me you don't have 5 minutes a day for 30x3sets of pushups or 2x2mins of planks or can't take some dumbells with you. Get your act together mate. Putting yourself out there is as simple as pushing an interaction one step further than normal which takes what? 20 seconds? Quit making excuses.

[–]Mrbumblebee3 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I signed up for a gym and will start doing 5x5. An hour less sleep a day is worth it. Do muscles really do the trick?

[–]chaosmech 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not a trick. Working out has several benefits, and lifting is the main method for men.

Benefits:

  • better living, in general.
  • better looking
  • discipline
  • increased testosterone production
  • increased confidence from knowing you can handle physical challenges life throws at you
  • increased confidence from knowing you can handle anything with discipline and hard work.
  • potential male companionship/bonding experiences (ask an experienced guy to help you out, you might make a valuable friend/bro)
  • Increased presence- combination of confidence and intimidation. People have an inherent fear of someone who is muscular, because they know on a primal level what he can do to them if he so desires. This engenders in them a level of respect that a wimpy nerd will not experience.

So lifting is the single best thing you can do for yourself, period. And in making your own life better, it helps you to understand that your life doesn't revolve around women. You can be awesome on your own. This in turn, leads to final benefit of lifting:

  • Not giving a fuck

Women respect and are attracted to men who have their own shit going on. Whether that's lifting, a cool hobby, just doing your life mission-- whatever it is, have your own shit going on. This keeps you from being a clingy, validation-giving orbiter, which women despise. And if you can simply not give a fuck about them because you're too busy being awesome yourself, then that gives them tingles.

So, as far as it goes, lifting helps you with women because

  1. men respect you more because you could potentially beat them up. This earns you a little bit of status. Women like status.
  2. women are primally attracted to a man who is muscular. This kind of man can protect them and their offspring; therefore, this is the kind of man whose genes I want to pass on.
  3. Increased confidence from looking good in turn helps with your social demeanor around women. Women find confidence attractive.

But the biggest thing I want you to take away from this is that lifting should not just be as a means to an end, namely, getting pussy. Lifting should be about bettering yourself first; the other stuff follows as a result.

[–]Mrbumblebee3 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I experienced part of this through work, the only thing that holds you back is how much work you're willing to put in and how focused you can stay.

I'll lift every day, Ill get up an hour earlier and work out again in the evening when I get off early. Thank you. I'm going to take better care of myself from now on.

[–]chaosmech 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish you nothing but success on your journey

[–]The_M0rning_Star 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know I'm not supposed to talk here, me possessing a vagina and all. But nerds are sexy as fuck so don't listen to this shit. All you need is confidence. If having muscles will make you confident, go work out. If learning magic tricks will make you confident, study magic tricks. The last one was silly to show you how little it matters what it is, so long as you are confident. Seriously, don't listen. There's some nerdy as fuck girl who will bang the shit outta you and then watch battlestar galactica with you. You won't catch her if you're busy pretending to be someone you're not.

[–]Mrbumblebee3 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not looking for some random girl who happens be into me. I'm looking to be a better person in general.

How do you suggest I develop more confidence? And how do you define confidence?

[–]exquecher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What are your honest thoughts on confident ugly guys?

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think there's merit to this.

I think intelligence only attracts intelligent girls. Seeing that intelligent girls are only a small subset of all women, you'll get farther not relying on intelligence.

Example: if you're talking to Betty the bimbo using your intelligence is a failing proposition. You have to do/say stupid shit or else you're going to get the Krispy Kreme glazed donut stare of death.

This I think by law of probabilities you'll get farther by not having only intelligence in your bag, you need other characteristics in your box of tricks.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know some guys are nerds, aka a stereotype that gets labeled on them due to them being very smart, but if they don't lift and otherwise make themselves better, they're not really that smart are they? Science tells us that working out is healthy for our bodies so a true nerd should realize that fact and act accordingly.

[–]supamario132 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not so sure I agree with you. Besides the "nerd" aspect many others have been mentioning, you need to recognize the difference between proficiency and intelligence. Being extremely knowledgeable in a highly specific field of research isn't attractive own its own. You have to be able to sell it in conversation or the girl needs to have an extreme interest as well. As for a general intelligence, its without question (in my opinion) that this is attractive to women

Keep in mind that you need to focus on academics because it leads to money and a good life

Depends on your field but this generally isn't true, you're either going professor or private research more than likely. former is long hours, modest pay. latter, is pretty difficult to land even with phd and relevant research (not speaking for OP, just mentioning it in case anyone took this at face value)

[–]BestSC86 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"hiding your smartness"...incorrect

The biggest freaking alpha I have ever known was a Chemical Engineer doctoral candidate at a Top 5 US school. But he wasn't some shriveling dweeb wearing Walmart clothing and spending his downtime playing video games in his bedroom.

He and I spent our weekends\evenings playing volleyball\basketball, throwing parties and road tripping to every social event in the Southeast. I pulled chicks but he slayed everything from strippers to pharmaceutical salesettes to a married doctor interested in his research.

It isn't being smart that is a turn off but being a dweeb.

[–]metallica11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

it goes both ways too. No amount of nobel peace prizes/patents/research discoveries will make my dick hard for a 200 pound ugly women over a 18 year barista with an IQ of 90 but a banging body.

Its biology.

[–]gpuhorde 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is only valid during puberty. But even then, only some of those frat or sports guys are actually good at attracting the opposite gender. When some of those nerds become successful (not all of them do) and some of those frat or sports guys become successful, those are the actual alphas. You could argue that they're more intelligent than the rest. I think its more a balance of both intelligence and physique.

Financial ability is everything in modern society. Its become the primary benchmark of being an alpha.

[–]boomscooter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dedicating your life to something you want to study and learn about, is about as alpha as it gets. These guys are doing what they want and not giving a shit about the girls. Basically, what trp preaches daily.

[–]imalreadym 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guy here, and I agree. I have noticed that the more I dumb myself down the more girls like me. It's actually really frustrating because after that initial meet, greet, and bone phase I get really bored with the girl.

[–]noticklin 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Eh maybe when you're young. Eventually women like guys that act normal, are clean, in decent shape and most importantly - driven. Once those nerds that focused on academics fill out and get started in the work force they'll attract the women worth attracting.

[–]J-baller -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

So nerds have to settle for 30 year old women..... Oh how sad it is

[–]noticklin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some people like quality over quantity. I can't say whether one is better than the other

[–]tehftw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is the 'quality' that a 30-year-old woman has over a 20-year-old girl?

[–]KarmaEnthusiast -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

You mean 30-35 year old women who will do anything for a baby? Sign me up you fruitbasket.

[–]noticklin -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, women that also put the work in. Women that care about their future, about family and responsibility.

30-35 year old women who will do anything for a baby

Even then don't knock it, just pull out and dont give em your real name

[–]King-Macbeth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are a "nerd" and truly happy with researching your whole life, you should follow your passion. However, you need to keep in mind that even the nerdy girls are not attracted to the nerdy guys.

You're assuming that all "nerds" are skinny, glasses wearing betas who jerk off to hentai every night.

Intelligence shows status and women want to be around status. Being intelligent about a specific topic or field demonstrates that you're able to focus and have goals in your life i.e you have ambition, another trait that women obviously gravitate towards.

Of course, you still need to be physically attractive. You could have the IQ of Stephen Hawking, but if you're as skinny as him you're not getting laid anytime soon.

No girl wants a ripped guy who is dumb as rocks just like they don't want an overly intelligent man who gets winded going up one flight of stairs. It's all a balance and having the appropriate balance between looking fit and sounding intelligent is one that will get you laid; you can't have one in excess.

[–]BigTexas07 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not black/white. Usually 'jocks' are the ones at parties and are extroverted. 'Nerds' are usually not at the parties and are introverted. Not to mention nerds usually have unpopular hobbies (which is okay) and can't relate as well to college kids.

I always remember that scene in 40 year old virgin; "You know what my problem is? I am not interesting. What am I supposed to say? I went to magic camp? That I'm an accomplished ventriloquist? Oh, I am the Seventh Degree Imperial Yo-Yo Master. "Ooh, do me, Yo-Yo Master, I want you to do me cause you're the yo-yo guy!" Lol

[–]yaboimoneymitch -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe if you act like a dork. A science major can be just as successful. Nothing stopping us from finding time for the gym or recreation sports. I have a high GPA and still play sports and get out a few times a month in addition to a regular gym schedule, and while I'm not running a harem I don't find it that difficult to get with women as long as I'm with the right group.