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I will probably invest 10.000€ in Bitcoin (self.Bitcoin)

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I will probably invest 10.000€ in Bitcoin, what should I know? What are the implications? Where should I buy them?

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[–]sumBTC [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

what should I know?

Buy a Trezor, you won't regret it.

[–]JacobBubble [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Buy a Trezor Buy a hardware wallet.

I'd recommend a well known one. Trezor, Ledger Nano S, Keep Key, etc.

[–]belcher_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Try the whole process of storing and getting out of storage with small amounts first.

[–]gta350 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You can start here.

[–]YRuafraid [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I suggest holding on to them, and not get scared by wild fluctuations up and down. On the long term (1-3 years) bitcoin is going places imo

[–]BillyHodson [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

You may find the exchange you use has daily limits. Use a well know exchange and yeah buy a Trezor or Ledger Hardware wallet. By daily or weekly and not all in one go.

[–]TdotGdot [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Why hardware? If he is planning on a long term investment maybe a paper wallet is a better solution.

[–]rodfeher [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

hardware wallet is more fail proof than paper wallet. he probably can't handle all the hassle to go offline on a clean OS to create the keys.

[–]BitcoinOdyssey [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Trezor See my vid: Easy Trezor Hardware Bitcoin Wallet Tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69LXGylPrUg

[–]sirbtcchredditor for 8 hours [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Question from noob using Breadwallet: if breadwallet seizes to exist by any mean: Are my BTC gone even with my 12 word recovery phrase? Or let me put it this way: Is the recovery phrase exclusive to the wallet app in use?

[–]amnesiac-eightyfour [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You should be able to get all your private keys using those 12 word seed using other software / wallet services as well.

It is advised not to store large amounts of Bitcoin on hot wallets, like breadwallet. Use cold storage or hardware to do so. I never keep more than 0.1BTC in a hot wallet (phone, desktop) at any time.

[–]sirbtcchredditor for 8 hours [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the answer. I might have to reconsider my storage. I got way more than 10BTC in my ios breadwallet. Thought it was secure enough. I should really buy a trezor then... Thx again

[–]KevinBombino [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The protocol for the 12 word phrase is standardized across many bitcoin apps, including many that are fully open source, so you'll be fine in that scenario.

[–]loserkids [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

what should I know?

Just prepare mentally for a possibility that you may lose everything. Welcome to Bitcoin!

[–]onlineo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Either paper wallet offline or something similar to trezor. Then secure paper or trezor. The standard info is to spread investment over 10 to 20 months to give a good spread of cost of coins. If you buy now, maybe you are buying at the top of a bubble or maybe you are buying at the bottom of a massive run up. If it was up to me I would probably do half spending now then spread the other half over the next 10 months, to mitigate the risk of a price drop a little, but to minimize the risk of a price increase too.

[–]Bitfroind [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you expect the price to rise do not spread your investment over time.

[–]xriczz4 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

pEANUTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]cqv [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

First you should buy and handle a smaller amount if you haven't already.

[–]BobAlison [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

what should I know?

You should know how to secure your own bitcoin - before making your purchase. If the idea of managing cryptographic material securely makes your head spin, stop and reconsider that you're probably going to end up like one of these poor folks:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576337

You should know what happens when you fail to take backups or privacy seriously. You should know what it feels like to send your money into the void because you used the wrong receiving address or paid everything to miner's fees.

Learn these lessons by:

  1. buying 10 euros of bitcoin
  2. securing it with the best method you can find
  3. having someone who knows what they're doing review your method
  4. proving you can recover from complete loss of your phone, computer, or hardware wallet - without making a single mistake

BTW, these posts seem to always reach their peak near the beginning of a major correction. Consider how you'd feel and how you'd act when confronting a 75% loss on 10K.

[–]banished98ti [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You should ask yourself who are you giving that $10,000 too.

[–]stachrom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Count in a total loss - this is the most important point!

[–]mustyoshi [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

10 whole euros?

[–]cpgilliard78 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

In Europe 10.000 means 10,000.

[–]Matthew-Davey [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

*some parts of Europe

EDIT actually you were mostly right. This map shows countries which use a period (blue) and countries that use a comma (green)

[–]RaptorXP [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Uh no. France, Scandinavia and most eastern European countries don't use periods.

[–]Matthew-Davey [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Woops you're right, I had comma and period reversed. Periods are blue and commas are green. My mistake.

[–]IGETSHIVERSWHENIP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Obligatory comment:

Holy hell, 10 Euros!!!!1 ;)

[–]stupidxredditor for 3 months [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Investments have prospectuses (prospecti?), fundamentals, P/E ratios and whatnot. This is a gamble or speculation. I'm in, definitely, but calling it an investment is a bit of a stretch.

[–]Edict_18 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

People in other countries "invest" in US dollars. Other countries even "invest" in US dollars. No prospectus, no, fundamentals separate from what can be gleamed from bitcoin, no P/E Ratios and whatnot. An investment is ANYTHING wherein us invest money and expect (or hope for) an improved capital position at a later date.

[–]stupidxredditor for 3 months [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah I was expecting this comparison. USD is not beta software with 0.x version #. It's been around for a bit longer. There are some numbers available like GDP, tax revenue, and oil sales (petrodollar). There is a plethora of things people with dollars invest their dollars into. Currencies are traded, sure, but they are a medium of exchange, unit of account, a lousy store of value, and even a speculative hedge, rather than an investment.

[–]Edict_18 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Everything you just said is irrelevant to the point you made, which I refuted, except maybe your last sentence which is contradictory because a speculative hedge is an investment term... investment. term.

Additionally, would you really say to someone getting paid in ZWD that converting immediately to USD is a "lousy store of value"... ROFL. ok

[–]cqv [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So bonds, precious metals and real estate can't be investments?