Im not going to hide what i see here on this sub more and more. And i can feel that you wont like what i have to say here, but thats fine.

Do you know who were people who created this civilization? Atleast good things about it? (Science, philosophy, classical music etc)

Mostly MGTOWs of their time! Most of them lived in solitude and some of them died poor. Today, we dont live in 1546 or 1853, its 2017 soon to be. There are many ways of fun and people wont burn you if you say something that society dont want or understand.

I see more and more hermits leaving comments. So what? Im attention mgtow? There is 5 % of me that wants attention but unless you are ignorant, we are all in relation to society. Not what individuals think about us but our actions themselves. Stupid example, who will operate your knee if your acl goes to hell. We will always depend on society because we are humans, accept it.

Validation? I validate my own life. Do you think that driving badass car or having great house is because of validation of others and for others? I love cars for 20 years and buying Aventador wont make me Man NOT going his way. I read people are selling cars here and everybody is like "cool". Not cool, are you going to drive bicycle everyday?

Seriously, anybody who goes their way and sacrifice what 90% males adore (Status and females) will improve and those 2 will come if "your way" is anything that has to do with success.

I respect all of you who are happy on mountain or fishing all time but if anybody here really step into the uknown and has great sacrifices, invest into himself and his work, there is great chance that he will do something big.

So dont point towards hermits, we all have our idea or way of going in direction we want to. But ultimate goal is not to be slave to society or females.

So man up, you arent going your own way, you are running wrong way, most likely.