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black_squireMartial が 1時間前 投稿
Since LVG took over United in 2014 until Mourinho got fired, August 2014 - December 17 2015
Make of that what you will
[–]ckaracayCantona 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 57分前 (4子コメント)
Fuck off
[+]black_squireMartial[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 50分前 (3子コメント)
I see you don't like facts
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 17分前 (0子コメント)
We don't like you because you're a retarded plastic cunt who supports our failure of an ex manager and not Manchester United
[–]tocitusMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5分前 (1子コメント)
If you genuinely watch the on-field performances and don't see the vast improvement in a short space of time, then I don't know man.
Each to their own and all but I prefer not watching 347 stale passes for every shot taken. Short-term we might not be doing as well as LVG was last year but I'd be surprised if Mourinho's Year 2 isn't better than LVG's.
Anyway, I think you know why you've gotten this reaction from the sub.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分前 (0子コメント)
This has nothing to do with On field performances and whatever. This is a direct comparison between 2 managers in the exact same league, in the same period of time facing the exact same oppositions.
This was Mourinho's 2nd and 3rd seasons in the league and LVG's 1st and 2nd
[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 47分前 (5子コメント)
You're obsessed with slandering Mourinho yet you got worked up when people rightfully criticised LVG. Grow the fuck up.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 43分前 (4子コメント)
I'm actually not slandering him. I am trying to provide a very balanced view of him in comparison to a manager that was labelled a "failure" by this sub. I am not putting any skew on anything, simply sharing factual data about Jose Mourinho
[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 37分前 (3子コメント)
So you think LVG was a success?
[–]DP112Herrera 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 34分前 (2子コメント)
This guy's M.O. is to praise LVG whenever the opportunity comes up.
[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 28分前 (1子コメント)
It's so ridiculous. I don't really have a problem with him praising LVG but the way he goes about it, having to put someone else down to raise another up, isn't right at all.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 21分前 (0子コメント)
Sorry, I'm not putting anyone down. Merely making a common statistical comparison between 2 managers. Wins Draws and Losses is a pretty universal way of comparing 2 managers especially in the same league during the exact same period.
[–]MrD3athGiggsy 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 32分前 (1子コメント)
I can understand why someone would despise Mourinho.
I can even understand why someone would like LVG's "philosophy".
What I don't understand however is why you would, almost obsessively, try and force these opinions on others. Especially when you've been told multiple times that these posts are just plain annoying.
You're here everyday, just being irritating. It's like an edgy 14 year old, voicing his opinions about atheism to a community of theists.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 26分前 (0子コメント)
I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone. This isn't my opinion. These are facts. Numbers. Records of results both managers have accrued in the exact same window of time.
If you don't like it, ignore it. I ignore a lot of shit on this sub.
[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 45分前 (10子コメント)
So what? Are you saying that Mourinho is a worse coach than LVG? That is laughable, isn't it?
[+]black_squireMartial[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 42分前 (9子コメント)
Well, numbers never lie do they?
[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 40分前 (8子コメント)
If your sampling method is shit, then yes, numbers do lie.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 30分前 (7子コメント)
Well is this sampling method shit?
[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20分前 (4子コメント)
most certainly
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 19分前 (3子コメント)
How's that?
[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6分前 (2子コメント)
30 games is not a big enough sample size. You judge how good a manager is based on half a season? That way Fergie would be the even worse if you selective choose his worst run of games. AFAIK, he was on the brink of getting fired and had he not won the FA cup, he would have.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分前 (1子コメント)
54 games is a full season and some. What are you talking about? This is not some arbitrary period. It's the recored of all the games from the first game in the 2014/2015 season to Jose's last game at Chelsea.
While they both managed "top" teams, in the exact same league, during the exact same period, this is their record. Jose managed 3 more points than LVG.
There is no gimic, no skew, no nothing. That is their record while they both managed teams in the same league.
[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
We all know that Chelsea lost most of their games in the last season. The year that Jose won the title, his record was splendid. You can compare last 5 seasons of Jose and LVG? Maybe that would be fair?
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 16分前 (1子コメント)
You don't even know what a sampling method is you thick cunt
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 14分前 (0子コメント)
lmao
[–]DP112Herrera 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 44分前 (5子コメント)
Why are you so obsessed with Van Gaal?
[+]black_squireMartial[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 41分前 (4子コメント)
Because this sub hated him so much and called him a failure and even in the face of reality and evidence, the man was vilified by the club and its fans. Now Jose is manager and everyone thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. Numbers say different
[–]DP112Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 40分前 (3子コメント)
You're being kinda hypocritical then by trying to say "Mourinho's shit I hate him" without having to say those words
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 28分前 (2子コメント)
How am I being hypocritical? I'm showing that a man isn't as infallible as this sub would like to believe and that a man that was labelled a failure has dealt with twice the amount of adversity and come out just 3 points behind. Where is the hypocrisy?
[–]DP112Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 26分前 (1子コメント)
the man was vilified by the club and its fans
You're saying LvG was treated unfairly by the fans, while treating Mourinho unfairly. If this was Mourinho's second season and you used stats from LvG's second season and they were better then maybe I'd agree with you, but it's just more of your repeated attempts to make LvG out as some sort of martyr
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 24分前 (0子コメント)
I'm not treating Mourinho unfairly, I'm saying numbers suggest he's just as shit as LVG was if we are saying LVG was shit.
If this was Mourinho's second season and you used stats from LvG's second season and they were better then maybe I'd agree with you, but it's just more of your repeated attempts to make LvG out as some sort of martyr
I've just given you stats from Mourinhos 2nd and 3rd seasons with a settled team vs LVGs 1st and 2nd season with a rebuilding team and this is your rebuttal? Comparing 2nd seasons. Yeah, you've missed the point
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19分前* (3子コメント)
Fuck off you stupid cunt
No one gives a fuck what a plastic waste of oxygen like you thinks about United
[–]House_Of_LannisterAnd who are you...? 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分前 (0子コメント)
lmfao
[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分前 (0子コメント)
You might be overreacting brother.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 18分前 (0子コメント)
lol
[–]House_Of_LannisterAnd who are you...? 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 49分前 (3子コメント)
What do you make of it?
I mean, it's pretty much a really broad scope of the two guys between those times. It's really hard to make anything from it except lots of speculation, theory and conspiracy.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 44分前 (2子コメント)
Here's what I make of it, a manager who's won 2 premier league titles and had a full year to work on his team, could only perform 3 points better than a manager new to the league, having to rebuild a team almost from zero and dealing with 2 of the worst injury crises the club has ever seen.
LVG while doing all this managed to bed in multiple youth players and implement a very difficult playing style that was completely new to the club and it's players.
This record shows both managers performances in the league over a period of time. In that time, Jose had pretty much the same team. LVG changed loads of players between 14/15 and 15/16 and still managed just 3 points less than Mou.
I think this says a bit about the quality in both managers in that period of time.
[–]House_Of_LannisterAnd who are you...? 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 38分前 (1子コメント)
I really do get what you're saying, but I just don't think now is the right time to be undermining Jose.
It is very early days still; although I don't think we are getting top 4, I still think we need to take it easy.
We need to at least give him until the summer to eliminate all the reasons we are going wrong.
I obviously don't know Jose personally, but he does come across as the type of guy who, once is found out will revise and edit his ways to come back better.
[–]black_squireMartial[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 19分前 (0子コメント)
I'm not undermining Jose. To me, it's evident that a lot of fans haven't spent time to actually question Jose and this "winner" thing everyone talks about.
It's the idea that most fans feel secure with Jose at the helm because he's a winner therefore our current reality isn't cause for concern. To me it is.
[–]pearlz176The Ginger Prince 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分前 (1子コメント)
Sigh..not this idiot again.
[–]chickensoup1Beckham 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
LVG is gone and not coming back, get that into your head my god, seriously. Even as it stands I'd still take Mourinho any day over LVG.
Why are you still even on here? You said that if Mourinho took over you'd stop supporting the club, why do you still post here?
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