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[–][deleted] 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

this is also the father's role to break this conditioning in their children... however he grew up just the same way.

[–]I_Did_It_My_Way[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm pretty positive they didn't grow up the same way.

My grandfather on my mothers side that I never got to know was a classic alpha male.

My grandfather on my fathers side was heavily affected by WW2 from what I know, but I never got to know him either.

I think it's all a product of the pro feminist counter culture in the 60s that turned the men in my father's generation soft towards women by generally rejecting all traditional values.

[–]GrnTiger08 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The book "no more Mr nice guy" gives a pretty good explanation of how our fathers were raised by women due to ww1 and ww2 and post those eras. I'm sure there's more involved than that but Jokingly a conclusion I came up with is war = pro feminism.

[–]zyk0s 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is, but he won't be able to if he is intentionally kicked out of their kids' life. What a man does have power over is who he chooses to marry and have kids with.

[–]Frittern 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Beta man run away, far away from the responsibility they say will make you a man..It's a collar of shame a collar of slavery for life..

It's only In isolation and contemplation that you might find a tiny spark of the male spirit society tries to snuff out in every boy..Frankly it all start's with Mom, she is the one that starts her son on the path of submissiveness she is the one that installs in him a deep abiding need for the approval and acceptance a need to be nurtured..If a boy is lucky his father or another adult male will take him aside away from mom and show him the dangers of women show him that seeking their approval is a sure road to self destruction. For most men alive today we have never had that critical life lesson and so we have to relearn it. MGTOW is leading the way in regaining this awareness.

[–]2Fast2Fuhrer 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

People always say to do "the right thing" and follow the absurd social norm of current gender relations. They never can answer what makes doing "the right thing" right, and it's certainly not desirable, and within just a few minutes of thinking, you can usually realize that those who demand that you do "the right thing" benefit fantastically from you doing so.

Well, I stand firmly willing to turn "the right thing" upside down if it doesn't align with my own goals and desires. Fuck the world!

[–]oldredder 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every damn time someone, anyone, said to me to "do the right thing" it was not the right thing, it was hurting myself for their benefit.

Never again. Liars, all.

[–]GrnTiger08 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck yea! Screw social norms straight up the ass. I say do whatever the Hell you want and give everybody the finger. They deserve it for steering us in the direction which takes away our unique qualities as a man and human.

[–]trollawaylollo1lol 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

Holy. Fucking. Shit! That's my life in a series of pictures. Only I'm in the us and it's still accurate.

[–]I_Did_It_My_Way[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

In the US you at least have the option for homeschooling or the option to get a GED while in highschool, so you can go straight to college and at least cut through some of the bullshit.

Where I'm from it's illegal and the cops will come by your home and force you to go to school if you don't show up anymore.

The system is also set up in this way to ensure that only politically correct people that fit into the system and are willing to suck up to teachers get to go to university after 13 years of indoctrination.

[–]timoppenheimer 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most people can't homeschool.

As for GED, high school has the highest rate of male faculty in K-12, so I don't think it's quite as good a solution as you imply. My high school experience was mostly shit, but I was inspired in Senior year by an older male economics teacher who was relentlessly interesting in the classroom.

That sucks that people don't have the choice where you live though. I'm sorry to hear that you had to suffer that crap.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mom does most of the teaching in homeschooling. Source: was homeschooled and had a lot of homeschooled friends.

[–]eixan 5ポイント6ポイント  (19子コメント)

Is it possible for a single women to raise a boy to be a healthy man? This is a serious question.

[–]ColtsDragoon 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

I honestly believe that is not true. Every male product of a single mother I have ever known has had some serious mental/emotional damage.

I even know one man who is into S&M and likes to violently abuse female sex partners by hitting and strangling them during sex. (yes its consensual and there is a safe word so relax people) He once told me that he pictures his mother every single time and even goes out of his way to find partners who look like her.

I have my own baggage like we all do. Mine stems from having a weak, beta-male father and a controlling mother but I cant help but wonder how much worse my life would be if I only had her raising me. Would I end up like that guy? Or worse? would I be a rapist or a serial killer?

Behind every man that is a monster stands the woman who raised him.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

(Im 22 now) i was raised mostly by my single mother, though saw my dad on weekends. he was constantly drunk enough to instil a lot of logic and solid balls in me though (also did some damage), and i think i owe him more than i sometimes believe to. However, my mom is amazing and works hard as fuck at what she does, and ive learned a ton from her as well. Ive gone through a ton of shit but ended up pretty solid on the other side (not in the clear, but damn well off on the right foot) through tireless introspection and research.

Ive shit tested my mom asking her things like "if you had it your way, would you prefer me to get married?" She said "Id want you to do whatever is right for you and whatever makes you happy." She is FEW AND FARRRR BETWEEN.

[–]l0ng_time_lurker 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well yes, and this is why also in 2015 my preeminent personal goal is to follow through with all tasks in NMMRNG (No More Mr Nice Guy) - the only antidote against this - I think of the book as the sun glasses in the John Carpenter movie "They Live"

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too true

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All my favorite and most influential teachers in school were men. Except Prof. Proehler in college but at that age how could a 6 foot tall blonde German woman not be a favorite?